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Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo


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45 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Hey,don’t feel too bad… it took me until Sark made the BigXii CG for me to buy in on him.

 

I’m a pilot now.

I mean, that's fine. You should remain skeptical of the coach... ALWAYS. Sark could fall off the wagon; he could get an ego and fuck everything up; he could sit on his laurels; the game could pass him by and he doesn't adjust.

There's many, many ways to fall, and it's not up to us to make excuses for coaches when they do, nor is it our job to support the coach above and beyond the needs of the school and team.

There's a difference between wanting a coach to succeed and expecting them to, and even further distance between expecting them to succeed and making excuses for them when they don't. It's that latter tendency that Strong cured me of. I was the WORST at that, and for a long time.

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2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

The soft label actually comes from long before then. The reputation in the 1980s was "look like Tarzan, play like Jane" and specifically we caught tons of shit for getting run over by a much smaller Air Force team in the Bluebonnet Bowl around 1985 or so. It started to be a big theme again during the five game losing streak to OU prior to 2005.

I knew many of the UT players during that time, I wouldn't exactly describe such players such as Gene Chilton, John Stuart, Pau Jetton, Bryan Chester, Ty Allert and Britt Hager as soft.. Air Force did not even have 200 yards worth of offense in that game. Akers coached teams were always on the physical side, Noting less. The soft label started to come during the John Mackovic era  Mackovic teams were always soft. 

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46 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

See... this is where you're wrong. No coach is better after an inexplicable loss as a big favorite with an overwhelming talent advantage than Mack Brown. Then again, nobody has had as much experience at it.

all true

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2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

I was definitely wrong about some things. I thought Gilbert was going to be good. Sims, Applewhite, Young, Colt, and even Chance Mock were good. Why would Mack and GDGD suddenly not know how to recruit and coach QBs? I will never know. I also was completely caught by surprise when the special teams, in the past a strength, went to total shit seemingly overnight. Nobody could catch a punt in 2010. How can nobody be able to catch a punt? Who saw that coming? I guess CTJ did, I didn't.

But not on the deterioration of the offensive line. What drove me nuts about the offensive line is even though this was an obvious problem and obviously the worst position on the team after 2005 Mack did nothing about it and in fact kept talking like there was no problem at all. Even called McWhorter the best coach in the country at one point to my astonishment. At first I had confidence that Mack would fix it but gradually it dawned on me that Mack just wasn't going to do shit until it actually started to make him lose. So I guess in retrospect if he was like that about one part of the team, who knows what else he was slacking on?

GG ended up being decent at SMU

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3 hours ago, closetohumping said:

One of Mack's greatest strengths after salesmanship is scheduling.  Guy was a chickenshit because we played in "the toughest conference in CFB"

Even though I criticize Mack for many things, scheduling was not one of them. He understood the college football political pond that UT was swimming in and scheduled accordingly, There are too many lazy overpaid sportswriters in this State waiting for a reason to rank down UT. Same with college football coaches. If you think that playing a hard schedule will win their respect. Think again.

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33 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

I remember numerous posts about the Melton, Colt class being damn near a homerun and saving Mack’s hide. Posts laughing at Muschamp pointing out Texas wasn’t as talented as one would think.  Did you make all of them? You are amazing!!!!

I remember you leading the charge and being ridiculed for it. But lots of posters wondered how a converted WR was our starting RB in 2008. There was nothing behind Blaine Irby. When Mack shifted the offensive philosophy in 2010, that didn’t go over well with the majority. The Rice game shocked a lot of people.

Allegedly both Chizik and Will thought the talented was less than expected.  

More Mack stuff:

  • I can imagine Mack shutting out the money but I think most of the money thought "Mack doesn't tell me how to do my job and I won't tell him how to do his." 
  • Rumors that Mack wasn't happy with Will getting so much credit for the defensive turnaround.
  • The money actually called Mack's bluff when he said "if Greg goes, I go."
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5 minutes ago, RC Horn said:

Even though I criticize Mack for many things, scheduling was not one of them. He understood the college football political pond that UT was swimming in and scheduled accordingly, There are too many lazy overpaid sportswriters in this State waiting for a reason to rank down UT. Same with college football coaches. If you think that playing a hard schedule will win their respect. Think again.

Not about winning their respect.  We had one maybe two marquee games, sack up and schedule someone with a pulse.  Even Mackovic had the stones to do that.  Mack and his sycophants loved to tout "9 win seasons" because he couldn't win the conference.  

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32 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

GG ended up being decent at SMU

Not really. He punched down just fine and then famously “got a ring” for all of the apologists and Lake Travis honks to point to, but beating up a bunch of midgets as a “can’t miss” five star isn’t anything to debunk his bust status at Texas and reveal the fact that he was overrated and sucked. 

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25 minutes ago, Brodarious Hamm Sandwich said:

This is the game that officially broke me. I wasn’t mad, I wasn’t surprised, but I when I have no emotion, I know I am fucking broken. After 40+ years, I am done with Carolina football.

We know that kinda hurt around here. 

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Mack wants to justify his method of coaching and will hang on as long as possible to prove it. Once he passes Nick Saban in wins, he will step down then ask Carolina to put his name on their stadium. (BTW,  Mack would have done the same thing at Texas had he passed Coach Royal in wins) Just checked out some UNC boacds and the piticforks are out for Mack.

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1 hour ago, horn009 said:

I don't know why someone that is Mack's age would want to deal with modern college football. I'm sure that he has more than enough money to retire. 

Sometimes you just wanna get down in the locker room with ya boys. 

North Carolina coach Mack Brown doing the Antonio Brown dance after their  win on Make a GIF

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2 hours ago, horn009 said:

I don't know why someone that is Mack's age would want to deal with modern college football. I'm sure that he has more than enough money to retire. 

Because he's so thin-skinned, anxious, and egomaniacal to let himself not be "the center of attention of college football" - at least in his mind.   

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Have not watched any UNC games.  I’m just guessing here so please verify:  UNC is playing a lot of players (with great parents) in September that will soon be dentists and stockbrokers and Mack will start playing the better, younger players (who also have great parents) in mid-October due to said better players throwing up in locker room before games?

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On 9/28/2024 at 6:45 PM, TonyTexas said:

This needs be Mack’s last season. Sally needs to make sure his 73 year old ass retires to the rocking chair. 

Sally doesn't want that man hanging around the house all day.

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On 9/28/2024 at 9:26 PM, RC Horn said:

Once he passes Nick Saban in wins, he will step down

He’s 10 wins behind Saban. He ain’t getting that this year. Not sure he’ll survive at UNC that long.

If he wants that record he’s going to have to go to a G5 program.

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On 9/28/2024 at 10:26 PM, RC Horn said:

Mack wants to justify his method of coaching and will hang on as long as possible to prove it. Once he passes Nick Saban in wins, he will step down then ask Carolina to put his name on their stadium. (BTW,  Mack would have done the same thing at Texas had he passed Coach Royal in wins) Just checked out some UNC boacds and the piticforks are out for Mack.

Saban: 28 seasons, 297-71-1, 19-12 in bowls .806.   (also saw a list that had him at 292-71-1, 297 came from SportsReference.com)

Brown: 35 seasons, 279-146-1, 14-12 in bowls .656 winning percentage   (also saw one list had him with 282-149-1, 279 came from SportsReference.com)

 

I guess no matter which is the correct number their careers are not really that close.

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44 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

He’s 10 wins behind Saban. He ain’t getting that this year. Not sure he’ll survive at UNC that long.

If he wants that record he’s going to have to go to a G5 program.

Maybe he can go to UTSA and Traylor can go to UNC.  He can add on to his time-in-service in the UT system and go relax wherever that old LHN and Mack Brown commercial was talking about.  I heard that commercial dozens of times but finally got it out of my head.  Either way - Traylor to UNC and Brown to UTSA.  For the lulz.

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20 minutes ago, Deej said:

He'd be much closer if he hadn't shit the bed against OU so many times.

If he would have never lost to OU and would have won the 1999 and 2001 conference championship games, plus the 2013 Baylor game that was a defacto conference championship, Mack Brown would have 1 more win than Saban and more than twice as many conference titles. All on him.

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1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Saban: 28 seasons, 297-71-1, 19-12 in bowls .806.   (also saw a list that had him at 292-71-1, 297 came from SportsReference.com)

Brown: 35 seasons, 279-146-1, 14-12 in bowls .656 winning percentage   (also saw one list had him with 282-149-1, 279 came from SportsReference.com)

 

I guess no matter which is the correct number their careers are not really that close.

One site only counts FBS wins. Mack was head coach of App State for a season while they were still in FCS so it doesn’t count those. The other site only updates after each season. To date Mack is 10 wins behind Saban in college football wins (all divisions).

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If he would have never lost to OU and would have won the 1999 and 2001 conference championship games, plus the 2013 Baylor game that was a defacto conference championship, Mack Brown would have 1 more win than Saban and more than twice as many conference titles. All on him.

All those wins wouldn’t have been good for the kids
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5 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

One site only counts FBS wins. Mack was head coach of App State for a season while they were still in FCS so it doesn’t count those. The other site only updates after each season. To date Mack is 10 wins behind Saban in college football wins (all divisions).

That’s what I was figuring but, it was late and I was tired.  👍

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