Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo

[Davis Lane 5616]

6 hours ago, Js1 said:

He was never leaving UNC by choice. Just like Texas. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21236]

20 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

That fuck is gonna take another job, isn't he?

Aggy should be on the market again soon.

[Cajun 11740]

1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

I hate that he stayed here long enough to badly damage the program. He wasn't working hard in those last few years. He hamstrung our recruiting because he would not let our coaches recruit players unless he had watched the player's film, but he wouldn't watch the film the coaches sent him.

He was enjoying himself a lot and working a little. The coaches were pissed off over it and the team's performance suffered because we were signing Lazy Mack Specials. That's why it took so long to rebuild. He tore the place apart before we pushed him out the door. Glad NC didn't allow it to get worse.

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

Edited 6 hours ago by Cajun

[RoyalBevo21 792]

1 minute ago, Cajun said:

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

Exactly, this weird Stockholm syndrome some Horns have for Grandpa Mack is cringe.

[Bookman 4642]

Mack, you could have gone out as a hero, but instead you hung around long enough to become a villain. 

[Rimbo 26095]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Won in 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009. I was at all of those games. I remember them just fine. 

 

And by omitting all the other games, you're literally proving my point for me.

 

4 minutes ago, Cajun said:

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

 

That's what everyone who "can't hate" Mack needs to get. It's not just the laziness that led to him leaving the program in even worse shape than he found it; it's the calculated and deliberate effort to sabotage what was left to ensure we would take a while to rebuild, from telling recruits and players to leave, to sabotaging the Saban hire, etc.

I don't forget the good times, but I can't forget the bad, either. And the bad was REALLY bad.

[Cajun 11740]

4 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Mack, you could have gone out as a hero, but instead you hung around long enough to become a villain. 

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

[Rimbo 26095]

Just now, Cajun said:

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

I mean, both statements are correct. He got lazy and hung around too long, destroying most of what he built by accident. The he deliberately went scorched earth when we cut the cancer out, making the rebuild that much longer and worse.

[Dahobbs 17682]

4 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

 

And by omitting all the other games, you're literally proving my point for me.

 

Nah dog. No time period is going to be perfect. Mack gave us the best seasons of Texas Football over the last 40 years. We were consistently near the top of the rankings until things collapsed a bit after the second National Championship game. We consistently beat aggy. We consistently blew out lower level teams. His teams were clutch in tight games. I'm not going to let unrealistic expectations of perfect ruin my memory of an amazing run for Texas football. 

[Yuk 1562]

My hate for the man mainly stems from one thing: he considered himself to be Texas Football. He threatened to sue over Saban. Threatened to sue when being fired. Told recruits he'd help them find other schools (while we let him coach the bowl game). He is petty and selfish, ego bigger than you can imagine. And all that was while he was coach. He did stuff after leaving that also hurt our program.

If they build him a statue here, I hope they hire Dwayne Wade guy to do it.

Good for NC and good riddance.

[RC Horn 141]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

You aren't remembering those years well enough. Like what was our record vs OU during that time?

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

Edited 5 hours ago by RC Horn

[Deej 76917]

1 minute ago, Yuk said:

If they build him a statue here, I hope they hire the Co-Op guy to do it

Fixed 

[Rimbo 26095]

7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No time period is going to be perfect.

 

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3 minutes ago, RC Horn said:

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

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[closetojumping 62864]

2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

welp

In my defense, I did preface it with the notion of “keep winning”. Getting doubled up by mighty Boston College and rolled at home by James Madison and heading towards 7-6 or worse didn’t achieve that. 

Good for the UNC boosters deciding that they weren’t going to be held hostage. 

[Marfa Low Crown 2548]

31 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Mack, you could have gone out as a hero, but instead you hung around long enough to become a villain. 

You were always a petulant little bitch, though. 

[mr. sunshine 2833]

27 minutes ago, Yuk said:

Told recruits he'd help them find other schools (while we let him coach the bowl game). He is petty and selfish, ego bigger than you can imagine. 

IIRC he had commitments from a bunch of spares. At that point Mack was about as picky as the Columbia Record & Tape Club

[Royale with cheese 1467]

1 hour ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

And now it's Campbell-Williams field and nobody remembers Joe Jamail wrt texas football anymore haha.

Yeah, they do. You should too. He put a lot of love and a shit-pot full of money into UT. Don't know if he did doobies or not, but welfare damn sure didn't have to buy 'em for him.

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5572]

4 minutes ago, Royale with cheese said:

Yeah, they do. You should too. He put a lot of love and a shit-pot full of money into UT. Don't know if he did doobies or not, but welfare damn sure didn't have to buy 'em for him.

holy fuck lmao I literally triggered this queer with my username hahaha

[Not a cat 5703]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

We were consistently near the top of the rankings until things collapsed a bit after the second National Championship game. 

The Hindenburg was flying pretty well until it caught on fire a bit.

[WBT 20668]

1 hour ago, RC Horn said:

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

Too soon.  f mack

[bullet 1598]

1 hour ago, Cajun said:

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

DKR and his friends tried to sabotage the program.  Mack did not.  DKR's friends were telling recruits not to come to Texas because DKR was ticked at the way he was forced out and mostly ignored as AD.  Earl Campbell once said he was ashamed of DKR.  Yet we put his name on the stadium with the Memorial for the vets.

Mack is 6th all time in wins with 282, behind Paterno 409, Bowden 357, Bryant 323, Pop Warner 314, Saban 297 and tied with Amos Alonzo Stagg at 282.

DKR is 32 with 184.  If he had coached another 10 years to 65 and only matched what Freddie Akers did and got fired for, he would have 270.  If he had coached to 70 like these other guys, he would be up there with the Bear.

Complacent Mack was a better coach than Strong or Hermann.  Looks like we are finally out of the wilderness.  It took Mack to get us over the mistakes of pushing out DKR and Akers. 

[bullet 1598]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, both statements are correct. He got lazy and hung around too long, destroying most of what he built by accident. The he deliberately went scorched earth when we cut the cancer out, making the rebuild that much longer and worse.

Nah, that was hiring the lazy, stupid Charley Strong and the unable to recruit Tom Hermann.

[Deej 76917]

Mack's hat damn near every Texad/OU Saturday.

 

 

[89Horn 1551]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Nah dog. No time period is going to be perfect. Mack gave us the best seasons of Texas Football over the last 40 years. We were consistently near the top of the rankings until things collapsed a bit after the second National Championship game. We consistently beat aggy. We consistently blew out lower level teams. His teams were clutch in tight games. I'm not going to let unrealistic expectations of perfect ruin my memory of an amazing run for Texas football. 

O, U think that is all there was to Mack Brown’s tenure at Texas?  O and U you also think there was nothing that prevented Texas during his tenure from winning more conference championships and playing for more NCs?

[Rimbo 26095]

5 minutes ago, bullet said:

Nah, that was hiring the lazy, stupid Charley Strong and the unable to recruit Tom Hermann.

We had Saban signed until Mack caught wind of it and axed the deal. If Mack didn't do that, there's no Strong nor Herman.

[Dahobbs 17682]

1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

O, U think that is all there was to Mack Brown’s tenure at Texas?  O and U you also think there was nothing that prevented Texas during his tenure from winning more conference championships and playing for more NCs?

Yeah, because we won so many championships in the 20 years before Mack. 

[closetohumping 17466]

3 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Won in 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009. I was at all of those games. I remember them just fine. 

Nice job!  Now count conference titles.  

[Wally Pryor 5262]

 

17 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

We had Saban signed until Mack caught wind of it and axed the deal. If Mack didn't do that, there's no Strong nor Herman.

Meh, no time to step down when he's killing himself recruiting in Florida....

Yes, fuck Brown and his thin skin, pettiness, insecurity and petulance for torpedoing it all. 

[Dahobbs 17682]

20 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

We had Saban signed until Mack caught wind of it and axed the deal. If Mack didn't do that, there's no Strong nor Herman.

No we didn't. 

[David Dennison 18946]

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No we didn't. 

[Pimphand 5878]

21 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Nice job!  Now count conference titles.  

2 ever in his entire career.  Tis what being Florida State and then Oklahoma's prison bitch does to your overall record.  Kinda fucks it up.

[hookemATL 11885]

Peaks and valleys ofc, but he deliberately ratfucked UT at the end, which to me tarnishes his legacy in a pretty extreme way. That decade plus of ruin and mediocrity were kickstarted by his incompetence and selfishness. 
 

im grateful for the accomplishments, and 05 was sublime (senior year mofos). But it’s like your wife fucking your best friend, you ain’t gonna forgive/forget that shit.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5120]

I will tell you when I got really really pissed at Mack, and I'm not sure I ever forgave him for this, when we got shut out by the sister fucking okies in 2004, with Vince Fucking Young on the team, breaking something like a 10 year streak of of us scoring in every game. And we had some shitty teams that somehow managed to make something happen every single game for the previous 8-10 years.   It was also the second longest active scoring streak in the country, and I think BYU ended up getting shut out like 6 weeks later, which was the only streak longer than ours.  Had we not completely shit the bed (again) against the Sooners, we'd have held that streak for 10 fucking years more before giving it up in 2014.  Fuck that guy.  I never trusted him after that game.  And fuck him for being scared of winning a conference title or beating Bob Stoops.  Y'all can remember all the good stuff you want to, but I can never forget that, or forget that every single first play from scrimmage to start the year and our hardest games was an unblocked bubble screen that was guaranteed to go nowhere.  

And yes, I was in the stadium for most of the Mackovic games, including 66-3, so this isn't some sort of spoiled attitude.  Mackovic needed to be fired, and so did Mack.  We probably waited too long on both of them before pulling the trigger.

Also, @WelfareBuysMyWeed, we aren't in junior high, you don't have to go calling people queers.  That's not cute or funny or original.  Do better.

[Blotto 23574]

4 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

He was enjoying himself a lot and working a little. The coaches were pissed off over it and the team's performance suffered because we were signing Lazy Mack Specials. That's why it took so long to rebuild. He tore the place apart before we pushed him out the door. Glad NC didn't allow it to get worse.

Bullshit. It took us a long time to rebuild because we had idiots running Belmont who hired back to back dildos for head coaches. It's not like Strong and Herman found success after their time in austin. When your coaching staff is full of clowns, expect a circus.

[83Horn 1648]

5 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I will tell you when I got really really pissed at Mack, and I'm not sure I ever forgave him for this, when we got shut out by the sister fucking okies in 2004, with Vince Fucking Young on the team, breaking something like a 10 year streak of of us scoring in every game. And we had some shitty teams that somehow managed to make something happen every single game for the previous 8-10 years.   It was also the second longest active scoring streak in the country, and I think BYU ended up getting shut out like 6 weeks later, which was the only streak longer than ours.  Had we not completely shit the bed (again) against the Sooners, we'd have held that streak for 10 fucking years more before giving it up in 2014.  Fuck that guy.  I never trusted him after that game.  And fuck him for being scared of winning a conference title or beating Bob Stoops.  Y'all can remember all the good stuff you want to, but I can never forget that, or forget that every single first play from scrimmage to start the year and our hardest games was an unblocked bubble screen that was guaranteed to go nowhere.  

And yes, I was in the stadium for most of the Mackovic games, including 66-3, so this isn't some sort of spoiled attitude.  Mackovic needed to be fired, and so did Mack.  We probably waited too long on both of them before pulling the trigger.

Also, @WelfareBuysMyWeed, we aren't in junior high, you don't have to go calling people queers.  That's not cute or funny or original.  Do better.

AND a senior Cedric Benson as his running back...and still managed to score exactly zero points in that game.

[randomhorn 1797]

19 minutes ago, 83Horn said:

Cedric Benson

RIP Ced 😢

[hookemATL 11885]

2 minutes ago, randomhorn said:

RIP Ced 😢

Not gonna lie, I got a little teared up when they announced his induction into Texas Sports HoF last Saturday against UK. Was pretty tough to see Dodge and Plonsky (repugnant bitch) standing on the field with no one in Cedric’s place while they got their recognition. Miss that dude. Hookem forever 🤘

[89Horn 1551]

38 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, because we won so many championships in the 20 years before Mack. 

Five conference championships in the 20 years prior to Mack.  Two conference championships in 16 years under Mack.  One Mack NC and one other played.  One fumble arguably away from a NC in 1983.  Choose a different metric and I might agree with you.

As to OU, Texas had a winning record (10-8-2) against them in the 20 years before Mack.  Mack went 6-10.  OU won 8 Big XII championships during Mack’s tenure.  You’re fooling yourself if you think there is no correlation to Mack’s lack of success winning championships and not beating OU.

 

 

[RoyalBevo21 792]

3 hours ago, RC Horn said:

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

Did Switzerland really have a losing record to Texas?

[closetojumping 62864]

36 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I will tell you when I got really really pissed at Mack, and I'm not sure I ever forgave him for this, when we got shut out by the sister fucking okies in 2004, with Vince Fucking Young on the team, breaking something like a 10 year streak of of us scoring in every game. And we had some shitty teams that somehow managed to make something happen every single game for the previous 8-10 years.   It was also the second longest active scoring streak in the country, and I think BYU ended up getting shut out like 6 weeks later, which was the only streak longer than ours.  Had we not completely shit the bed (again) against the Sooners, we'd have held that streak for 10 fucking years more before giving it up in 2014.  Fuck that guy.  I never trusted him after that game.  And fuck him for being scared of winning a conference title or beating Bob Stoops.  Y'all can remember all the good stuff you want to, but I can never forget that, or forget that every single first play from scrimmage to start the year and our hardest games was an unblocked bubble screen that was guaranteed to go nowhere.  

And yes, I was in the stadium for most of the Mackovic games, including 66-3, so this isn't some sort of spoiled attitude.  Mackovic needed to be fired, and so did Mack.  We probably waited too long on both of them before pulling the trigger.

Also, @WelfareBuysMyWeed, we aren't in junior high, you don't have to go calling people queers.  That's not cute or funny or original.  Do better.

Dude, it was like a streak from 1979 or some shit. Fucking that streak up was way more egregious than just a decade of scoring. I’m also bitter to this day about it. 

Similarly, Mack Brown left the cupboard bare on the development front and the streak of consecutive years with a player drafted ended immediately after he left. That futile shit happened again with Herman’s exit, but Brown ruined the record. 

 

[RoyalBevo21 792]

7 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Did Switzerland really have a losing record to Texas?

Switzer* (fuck auto correct)

[Fastbreak 3992]

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

[Jkwellborn 6737]

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

If Mack does that, Saban probably doesn’t go on the run he had.

[Rimbo 26095]

7 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

It wasn't breaks. Breaks is what got us there. A shitty O-Line is what kept us from it... both years.

[runthebone 8038]

Oh, so now we're shitting on Coach Royal now?  Ok.

[Dahobbs 17682]

19 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Five conference championships in the 20 years prior to Mack.  Two conference championships in 16 years under Mack.  One Mack NC and one other played.  One fumble arguably away from a NC in 1983.  Choose a different metric and I might agree with you.

As to OU, Texas had a winning record (10-8-2) against them in the 20 years before Mack.  Mack went 6-10.  OU won 8 Big XII championships during Mack’s tenure.  You’re fooling yourself if you think there is no correlation to Mack’s lack of success winning championships and not beating OU.

 

 

My post was about national championships. And i agree, the struggles against OU caused the lack of conference championships. I never said otherwise. 

[MrBig 5440]

3 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

Mack is so self-centered things would have still ended the same way even if he had 3 titles. We would just be paying up the ass to get rid of him like aggy. 

[Dahobbs 17682]

1 minute ago, runthebone said:

Oh, so now we're shitting on Coach Royal now?  Ok.

Yeah, hating on the two best coaches that Texas ever had is a take. Y'all be a bunch of bitches. 

[Vermin 3058]

59 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I will tell you when I got really really pissed at Mack, and I'm not sure I ever forgave him for this, when we got shut out by the sister fucking okies in 2004, with Vince Fucking Young on the team, breaking something like a 10 year streak of of us scoring in every game. And we had some shitty teams that somehow managed to make something happen every single game for the previous 8-10 years.   It was also the second longest active scoring streak in the country, and I think BYU ended up getting shut out like 6 weeks later, which was the only streak longer than ours. 

The streak was actually from 1980.

[Tex Pete 20476]

9 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

Plenty of teams can talk about what ifs. We didn’t.

In no small part because Mack refused to change his approach to the OU game. We got skullfucked so many times because we went three and out on our first series and OU led by 3 scores at the end of the first Q. It’s absolutely enraging.