Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo

[Pimphand 5906]

The number of times Texas played in the conference championship game in back to back years?

 

Zero

[89Horn 1554]

27 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

My post was about national championships. And i agree, the struggles against OU caused the lack of conference championships. I never said otherwise. 

You didn’t say that.  But if you want to move the goal posts, we played for a mythical NC in 1983 and also 1977 (just outside your 20 year range).  I don’t even count the cold day in Dallas against Miami as one.  

You’re further making my point though.  All that talent and great years and Mack could only get to two NC games?   So, shitty teams in the 20 years before Mack could just about get to the same place with less?  And again, OU had a lot to do with that.  Texas beats OU > Texas wins Big XII > Texas likely plays for NC.  Well, unless Texas loses to Colorado.  I mean, how can that not be clear?

Edited 17 hours ago by 89Horn

[closetohumping 17474]

39 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

We had the best team in the country in different years (2005, 2009) and IMO 2008 as well. A few breaks and Mack has 3 nattys and is considered the 2nd greatest coach of this generation (Saban of course #1).

Yes Mack was the only coach that had bad luck

[Rimbo 26127]

38 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Oh, so now we're shitting on Coach Royal now?  Ok.

who's this WE kemosabe? just that asshole over there

[RoyalBevo21 797]

4 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

who's this WE kemosabe? just that asshole over there

Ya, idk wtf that guy was talking about? When Royal left Texas I wasn’t even alive, I have no idea what the details were. Did he not leave on his own?

[Rimbo 26127]

12 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

You’re further making my point though.

He does do that often, doesn't he?

I mean there were absolutely some great times then, and then there was the rest of the time. Dahobbs is acting like if he even concedes, just a wee bit, that Mack did as much harm as good, that Mack left the program in a worse state than he found it and did so on purpose, that he then has to go whole hog over to the other side and pretend 2005 didn't happen.

It ain't like that. There's good and bad there.

It's like that one girlfriend that was so much fun up until she cheated on you several times. You can still think fondly on the fucking while hating her ever loving guts for the betrayal at the end. Go die in a fire, Erin, I still hate your fucking bread-dough-smelling cunt you ftdr CC vh

[Rimbo 26127]

great tiddies tho

[Dahobbs 17687]

34 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

You didn’t say that.  But if you want to move the goal posts, we played for a mythical NC in 1983 and also 1977 (just outside your 20 year range).  I don’t even count the cold day in Dallas against Miami as one.  

You’re further making my point though.  All that talent and great years and Mack could only get to two NC games?   So, shitty teams in the 20 years before Mack could just about get to the same place with less?  And again, OU had a lot to do with that.  Texas beats OU > Texas wins Big XII > Texas likely plays for NC.  Well, unless Texas loses to Colorado.  I mean, how can that not be clear?

I have no idea what point you're making. I've never said Mack was perfect. I said I refuse to hate our second greatest coach ever. You can be mad that our program didn't achieve the heights you hoped for or you can enjoy what it did accomplish. Btw, the reason you had those aspirations is because of the standard Mack set his first 12 years as our head coach. It is just ridiculous to ignore that.

[Tex Pete 20500]

2 hours ago, Blotto said:

Bullshit. It took us a long time to rebuild because we had idiots running Belmont who hired back to back dildos for head coaches. It's not like Strong and Herman found success after their time in austin. When your coaching staff is full of clowns, expect a circus.

Why not both? Mack tore it all down before he left. 

[Topper13 3389]

Erin sounds nice. Rules.

[Post Oak 20276]

Remember Mack had to be convinced to recruit Vince and couldn't be convinced to recruit Andrew Luck because of Garrett Gilbert.

[RC Horn 147]

1 hour ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Did Switzerland really have a losing record to Texas?

Barry Switzer had a winning record against Texas as did Bud Wilkinson and Bob Stoops. However,  Coach Royal was 12-7-1 vs OU. Coach Akers was 5-4-1. Coach McWilliams was 3-2 and Mackovic was 3-2-1.   Mack was 7-9 vs OU with 4 very bad losses/

Edited 16 hours ago by RC Horn

[Tex Pete 20500]

Mack will be able to give thanks for a lot of extra free time this Thanksgiving. 

[RC Horn 147]

BTW,  Mack once said that beating OU was like beating your best friend. Greg Davis agreed. That sent me into a rage. He also called UT fans a bunch of wife beating alcoholics after the 2002 OU game. This occurred on the 1300 The Zone Show with Craig Way. He was never forced to apologize for it.

[Steamboat1874 4085]

People who dog Mack Brown are morons.

He was 158-48 here ( 77%) 

Won a national championship and played for another.

Coached a Heisman winner, who by the way would have never come back if it wasn’t for Mack being the coach.

Oh…and he is a member of the hall of fame.

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so fucking stupid.

 

 

[Tex Pete 20500]

Or maybe you could read the things people are bitching about. Mack deserves all the criticism he gets. A second school agrees. 

[Steamboat1874 4085]

3 minutes ago, RC Horn said:

BTW,  Mack once said that beating OU was like beating your best friend. Greg Davis agreed. That sent me into a rage. He also called UT fans a bunch of wife beating alcoholics after the 2002 OU game. This occurred on the 1300 The Zone Show with Craig Way. He was never forced to apologize for it.

Bullshit

Provide a link for that

[Steamboat1874 4085]

2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Or maybe you could read the things people are bitching about. Mack deserves all the criticism he gets. A second school agrees. 

People ?

You mean morons ?

Go ahead and bitch about him if you like but you might want to check his record.

[Jkwellborn 6747]

People who dog Mack Brown are morons.
He was 158-48 here ( 77%) 
Won a national championship and played for another.
Coached a Heisman winner, who by the way would have never come back if it wasn’t for Mack being the coach.
Oh…and he is a member of the hall of fame.
Shut the fuck up.
You sound so fucking stupid.
 
 

Hi Mack.

[Magus Ossis 2859]

Mack Brown won 2 conference championships in 16 years at Texas and turned the knife in our back on his way out the door. Unless Mack had some special role in recruiting Vince Young or some brilliant input that game-planned the Horns into our only national title under his leadership, I am not sure his egregious failures and betrayal are outweighed by his accomplishments. Winning the B12 less than one year in 5 at Texas is failure-level coaching. I am grateful for what success we did have during his tenure. Add in, though, the painful rebuild his late years necessitated, and he basically gave us 2-3 years of championship-level success out of 2 decades. One might argue that another coach could have matched that, given our inherent advantages. He was basically an also-ran coach. He never beat FSU until this, their year of total collapse. He usually lost to OU. I don't hate MB or anyone else, but he wore out his welcome here.

[Cajun 11746]

1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:

Hi Mack.  Was it hard not having time to sabotage North Carolina Football on the way out like you did at Texas?  Asking for a friend.

Just tagging on.

[Pam Cummings 9671]

18 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

People who dog Mack Brown are morons.

He was 158-48 here ( 77%) 

Won a national championship and played for another.

Coached a Heisman winner, who by the way would have never come back if it wasn’t for Mack being the coach.

Oh…and he is a member of the hall of fame.

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so fucking stupid.

 

 

Sally?

[Steamboat1874 4085]

I am not saying his tenure here was perfect and, it certainly went downhill at the end and I was glad he decided to move on, however, people who criticize his work here are just flat out wrong.

He is number 7 on the list of all time wins by the way.

Look no further than the coaches before him (after DKR) and those after him.

Shit, if social media existed in the mid to late 60’s coach Royal would have never been here to win the championship in 69.

The fans would have run him out of town after those seasons in 65 and 67.

9 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Sally?

Dumbass ?
Is that you ?

[Murfdogg21 4430]

43 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Remember Mack had to be convinced to recruit Vince and couldn't be convinced to recruit Andrew Luck because of Garrett Gilbert.

* Mack also didn’t want RGIII, offered Manziel as a DB but not QB, and chose Tyrone Swoopes (who led his 2A team to a 1-10 record) over JT Barrett. 
 

Mack was reactionary in recruiting and game strategy, having to lose hard and see others have sustained success before adopting change. W/L record aside, the best thing he did was reset culture during his first couple years. Had he been replaced with a better X’s and O’s coach in 2003 or 2004, Texas may well have had a better record 2005 and beyond. Given the talent gap between VY and Colt, I’m often more impressed with what Colt did for 4 seasons. Once Colt was finished, so was the Mack Brown regime. But Mack didn’t want to go, so we spun around with years of switching out coordinators and watching OU dominate as we fought for bowl eligibility. When it was clear he was finally being fired, he torched the program on his way out the door. That salting of the earth erased any sense of thanks or good will I might have had for him with the passage of time.  

[immamac 43101]

I get that some of you are fucking idiots, but just forgetting about winning a NC and playing in another because you think Mack Brown is a dickhead is seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen on the internet, and I've been on the internet a long fucking time. 

Get a fucking grip. Did Mack deserve to be fired? yeah, every time, including this time. Did Mack Brown also have a fucking awesome run? Yeah. Both things can be true and one doesn't have to get thrown in the trash because you are fucking stupid.

[tbone_ 14165]

Mack Brown is a weird fucker with an odd legacy.

Even if it was in spite of himself, he did manage to put one of the baddest teams ever to play college football on the field in 2005. And a few other pretty damn good teams.

And yet he also was responsible for all the other mind boggling gaping vag shit well chronicled in this thread.

Strange combo when you think about it. Not many have managed to accomplish that wide of a gap between highs and lows. Jimbo Fisher comes to mind.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5127]

13 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

I am not saying his tenure here was perfect and, it certainly went downhill at the end and I was glad he decided to move on…

He didn’t decide to move on, that was part of the problem. 

[Topper13 3389]

Win a NC, get a statue. Period.

[Blotto 23579]

51 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Bullshit

Provide a link for that

I'm sure he'll get right on that.

[RoyalBevo21 797]

13 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Mack Brown is a weird fucker with an odd legacy.

Even if it was in spite of himself, he did manage to put one of the baddest teams ever to play college football on the field in 2005. And a few other pretty damn good teams.

And yet he also was responsible for all the other mind boggling gaping vag shit well chronicled in this thread.

Strange combo when you think about it. Not many have managed to accomplish that wide of a gap between highs and lows. Jimbo Fisher comes to mind.

Larry fucking Coker coached and won a title with the most loaded roster of all time and went to back to back titles. Mack Brown was a phenomenal recruiter, a mediocre X’s and O’s guy, and a terrible staff assembler. 2005 won by straight up overwhelming their opponents with their talent and dumb ass Greg Davis getting the fuck out of the way.

[Steamboat1874 4085]

31 minutes ago, immamac said:

I get that some of you are fucking idiots, but just forgetting about winning a NC and playing in another because you think Mack Brown is a dickhead is seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen on the internet, and I've been on the internet a long fucking time. 

Get a fucking grip. Did Mack deserve to be fired? yeah, every time, including this time. Did Mack Brown also have a fucking awesome run? Yeah. Both things can be true and one doesn't have to get thrown in the trash because you are fucking stupid.

Thank you.

I am pretty sure I am on the short list of people here that have been watching Texas Football since 1960 when I was five years old.

Doesn’t mean I know shit but I have seen a lot and Mack’s tenure here was one of the best in my 70 years of life.

I feel very good about Sark but I am sure when he is done here many of the morons that exist today will be dogging him too.

[Steamboat1874 4085]

16 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Larry fucking Coker coached and won a title with the most loaded roster of all time and went to back to back titles. Mack Brown was a phenomenal recruiter, a mediocre X’s and O’s guy, and a terrible staff assembler. 2005 won by straight up overwhelming their opponents with their talent and dumb ass Greg Davis getting the fuck out of the way.

You are an idiot.

Greg Davis coached some of the most prolific offenses in Texas history.

Look it up.

[RC Horn 147]

Had Mack decided to move on after the 2010 BCS National Championship Game, he would have been hailed as the coach who saved the UT football program from mediocrity. He returned UT back to its rightful prominence in college football.. His mission was accomplished that night in Pasadena. I am sure that almost everyone on this board would have wanted a statue of him outside DKR.  However, Mack made the mistake of hanging on and the program fell into disarray. His narcissistic behavior behavior would not allow him to do the right thing the program. I    will always be grateful to Mack for restoring the UT progra(that was the easy part) but cannot totally forgive him for the way he left.

[Rimbo 26127]

2 hours ago, Topper13 said:

Erin sounds nice. Rules.

She wasn't nice. She was sorta fun, and she was not the sort of person you kept photos of even if you hadn't burned them all in a trash fire after pissing over them. A western Pennsylvania 6 at best.

Oddly enough, in a weak (and very drunk) moment I googled to see what she'd done with herself (hoping, of course, for dying of face AIDS) and discovered to my horror that some poor sap actually put a ring on it (I hope he gets tested for VD regularly) and she's actually working in some admin job of some kind at the university now.

That should've been my first hint that God had given up all hope on humanity and had abandoned the world to the devil.

[Rimbo 26127]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

I get that some of you are fucking idiots, but just forgetting about winning a NC and playing in another because you think Mack Brown is a dickhead is seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen on the internet, and I've been on the internet a long fucking time. 

Get a fucking grip. Did Mack deserve to be fired? yeah, every time, including this time. Did Mack Brown also have a fucking awesome run? Yeah. Both things can be true and one doesn't have to get thrown in the trash because you are fucking stupid.

I don't think anyone's claiming that. What people are claiming is that they are burying their heads in the sand about the very bad stuff because they happened to enjoy 2004-2009. The opposite of what you're attackin' here.

[CTC2 2801]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

I get that some of you are fucking idiots, but just forgetting about winning a NC and playing in another because you think Mack Brown is a dickhead is seriously some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen on the internet, and I've been on the internet a long fucking time. 

Get a fucking grip. Did Mack deserve to be fired? yeah, every time, including this time. Did Mack Brown also have a fucking awesome run? Yeah. Both things can be true and one doesn't have to get thrown in the trash because you are fucking stupid.

He’s always been a little bitch. It’s just easier to tolerate when he’s winning 10 games a year. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12512]

Well...bye

[Steamboat1874 4085]

23 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I don't think anyone's claiming that. What people are claiming is that they are burying their heads in the sand about the very bad stuff because they happened to enjoy 2004-2009. The opposite of what you're attackin' here.

So in your fantasy world there would be no “bad stuff” at all…only good ?

Son, you have a lot to learn in your life.

 I am guessing you are 35 years old or less.

[Rimbo 26127]

8 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

So in your fantasy world there would be no “bad stuff” at all…only good ?

Son, you have a lot to learn in your life.

 I am guessing you are 35 years old or less.

You are shitty at reading comprehension and should feel bad about yourself. Go stand in the corner and put your nose in the circle.

Edited 13 hours ago by Rimbo

[52-80 19257]

Every year I was on campus and years afterward as a fresh alum, "my team" was one of the best in the country and could beat any team in any given week.

Very few UT cohorts, or any other program's cohort, have the luxury of that feeling.

For that, I'll be forever grateful to ole Mack.

[Eggo 3995]

5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

She wasn't nice. She was sorta fun, and she was not the sort of person you kept photos of even if you hadn't burned them all in a trash fire after pissing over them. A western Pennsylvania 6 at best.

Oddly enough, in a weak (and very drunk) moment I googled to see what she'd done with herself (hoping, of course, for dying of face AIDS) and discovered to my horror that some poor sap actually put a ring on it (I hope he gets tested for VD regularly) and she's actually working in some admin job of some kind at the university now.

That should've been my first hint that God had given up all hope on humanity and had abandoned the world to the devil.

I'm going to choose to believe you're talking about this person and I don't care if you're not. 

[Dnaguy 12082]

6 hours ago, Topper13 said:

Win a NC, get a statue. Period.

Gene Chizik:

 

[Pam Cummings 9671]

32 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Gene Chizik:

 

[Jkwellborn 6747]

You are an idiot.
Greg Davis coached some of the most prolific offenses in Texas history.
Look it up.

This gets brought up every time someone says Greg Davis is ass. Let’s not forget the change in football and it being more offense oriented. It’s no longer 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

[immamac 43101]

10 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, hating on the two best coaches that Texas ever had is a take. Y'all be a bunch of bitches. 

The proper phrase is "Y'all some hoes" 

[Magus Ossis 2859]

When we evaluate recruits, we often discuss ceiling and floor. One could say Mack was a high ceiling low floor coach during his Texas tenure and that he took seasons off. He did have some explosive seasons.

[WBT 20670]

2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Every year I was on campus and years afterward as a fresh alum, "my team" was one of the best in the country and could beat any team in any given week.

Well...not that one.  Every other team.

[WBT 20670]

With Mack's firing, we're down to only 2 active coaches having won national championships.  Pretty wild.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18582]

Mack Brown was the best of times. He was also the worst of times. 

[Alien Octopus 562]

10 hours ago, RC Horn said:

BTW,  Mack once said that beating OU was like beating your best friend. Greg Davis agreed. That sent me into a rage. He also called UT fans a bunch of wife beating alcoholics after the 2002 OU game. This occurred on the 1300 The Zone Show with Craig Way. He was never forced to apologize for it.

Alcoholic I’ll own. When has Mack been better than 50% on anything?