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Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo


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1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

I hate that he stayed here long enough to badly damage the program. He wasn't working hard in those last few years. He hamstrung our recruiting because he would not let our coaches recruit players unless he had watched the player's film, but he wouldn't watch the film the coaches sent him.

He was enjoying himself a lot and working a little. The coaches were pissed off over it and the team's performance suffered because we were signing Lazy Mack Specials. That's why it took so long to rebuild. He tore the place apart before we pushed him out the door. Glad NC didn't allow it to get worse.

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

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1 minute ago, Cajun said:

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

Exactly, this weird Stockholm syndrome some Horns have for Grandpa Mack is cringe.

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1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Won in 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009. I was at all of those games. I remember them just fine. 

 

And by omitting all the other games, you're literally proving my point for me.

 

4 minutes ago, Cajun said:

And the bolded wasn't an "oopsie".  

I think that's what you're getting at but it needs to be emphasized that Mack intentionally sabotaged University of Texas Football as he was leaving.

You know, because he's a nice guy.

 

That's what everyone who "can't hate" Mack needs to get. It's not just the laziness that led to him leaving the program in even worse shape than he found it; it's the calculated and deliberate effort to sabotage what was left to ensure we would take a while to rebuild, from telling recruits and players to leave, to sabotaging the Saban hire, etc.

I don't forget the good times, but I can't forget the bad, either. And the bad was REALLY bad.

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4 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Mack, you could have gone out as a hero, but instead you hung around long enough to become a villain. 

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

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Just now, Cajun said:

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

I mean, both statements are correct. He got lazy and hung around too long, destroying most of what he built by accident. The he deliberately went scorched earth when we cut the cancer out, making the rebuild that much longer and worse.

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4 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

 

And by omitting all the other games, you're literally proving my point for me.

 

Nah dog. No time period is going to be perfect. Mack gave us the best seasons of Texas Football over the last 40 years. We were consistently near the top of the rankings until things collapsed a bit after the second National Championship game. We consistently beat aggy. We consistently blew out lower level teams. His teams were clutch in tight games. I'm not going to let unrealistic expectations of perfect ruin my memory of an amazing run for Texas football. 

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My hate for the man mainly stems from one thing: he considered himself to be Texas Football. He threatened to sue over Saban. Threatened to sue when being fired. Told recruits he'd help them find other schools (while we let him coach the bowl game). He is petty and selfish, ego bigger than you can imagine. And all that was while he was coach. He did stuff after leaving that also hurt our program.

If they build him a statue here, I hope they hire Dwayne Wade guy to do it.

Good for NC and good riddance.

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

You aren't remembering those years well enough. Like what was our record vs OU during that time?

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

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7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No time period is going to be perfect.

 

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3 minutes ago, RC Horn said:

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

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2 hours ago, Rimbo said:

welp

In my defense, I did preface it with the notion of “keep winning”. Getting doubled up by mighty Boston College and rolled at home by James Madison and heading towards 7-6 or worse didn’t achieve that. 

Good for the UNC boosters deciding that they weren’t going to be held hostage. 

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27 minutes ago, Yuk said:

Told recruits he'd help them find other schools (while we let him coach the bowl game). He is petty and selfish, ego bigger than you can imagine. 

IIRC he had commitments from a bunch of spares. At that point Mack was about as picky as the Columbia Record & Tape Club

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1 hour ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

And now it's Campbell-Williams field and nobody remembers Joe Jamail wrt texas football anymore haha.

Yeah, they do. You should too. He put a lot of love and a shit-pot full of money into UT. Don't know if he did doobies or not, but welfare damn sure didn't have to buy 'em for him.

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1 hour ago, RC Horn said:

Until Mack, it was fifty years when the last UT coach had a losing record against OU.  He also has 3 of the top 5 losses to OU as well. Those seal clubbings were hard to take.

Too soon.  f mack

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1 hour ago, Cajun said:

He became the villain because he intentionally tried to destroy the program.  

It wasn't because he hung around too long.

DKR and his friends tried to sabotage the program.  Mack did not.  DKR's friends were telling recruits not to come to Texas because DKR was ticked at the way he was forced out and mostly ignored as AD.  Earl Campbell once said he was ashamed of DKR.  Yet we put his name on the stadium with the Memorial for the vets.

Mack is 6th all time in wins with 282, behind Paterno 409, Bowden 357, Bryant 323, Pop Warner 314, Saban 297 and tied with Amos Alonzo Stagg at 282.

DKR is 32 with 184.  If he had coached another 10 years to 65 and only matched what Freddie Akers did and got fired for, he would have 270.  If he had coached to 70 like these other guys, he would be up there with the Bear.

Complacent Mack was a better coach than Strong or Hermann.  Looks like we are finally out of the wilderness.  It took Mack to get us over the mistakes of pushing out DKR and Akers. 

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, both statements are correct. He got lazy and hung around too long, destroying most of what he built by accident. The he deliberately went scorched earth when we cut the cancer out, making the rebuild that much longer and worse.

Nah, that was hiring the lazy, stupid Charley Strong and the unable to recruit Tom Hermann.

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1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Nah dog. No time period is going to be perfect. Mack gave us the best seasons of Texas Football over the last 40 years. We were consistently near the top of the rankings until things collapsed a bit after the second National Championship game. We consistently beat aggy. We consistently blew out lower level teams. His teams were clutch in tight games. I'm not going to let unrealistic expectations of perfect ruin my memory of an amazing run for Texas football. 

O, U think that is all there was to Mack Brown’s tenure at Texas?  O and U you also think there was nothing that prevented Texas during his tenure from winning more conference championships and playing for more NCs?

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5 minutes ago, bullet said:

Nah, that was hiring the lazy, stupid Charley Strong and the unable to recruit Tom Hermann.

We had Saban signed until Mack caught wind of it and axed the deal. If Mack didn't do that, there's no Strong nor Herman.

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1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

O, U think that is all there was to Mack Brown’s tenure at Texas?  O and U you also think there was nothing that prevented Texas during his tenure from winning more conference championships and playing for more NCs?

Yeah, because we won so many championships in the 20 years before Mack. 

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17 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

We had Saban signed until Mack caught wind of it and axed the deal. If Mack didn't do that, there's no Strong nor Herman.

Meh, no time to step down when he's killing himself recruiting in Florida....

Yes, fuck Brown and his thin skin, pettiness, insecurity and petulance for torpedoing it all. 

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