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[Zonahorn 7855]

6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Now lets get the Finns to sign up. 

The Swedes and Finns are a lock to join NATO after Russia invades

[InkaUtexas 24834]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Absolutely.

Honesty, it doesn't seem like Kiev had full control of these areas for quite some time. Years? They can take much of the blame for not exercising control of their own country. I realize this is easier said than done with Russia helping the separatists but you got to take care of your own problems.

Look up thread on the notes from @Shady Ray about the increase in confrontations in these areas. 122MM artillery fire is not fun. 

So what time we all expect this to kick off? I am watching the fleet in the Black Sea. They can position and hammer Western Ukraine pretty severely. 

[Wally Fairway 5465]

Where have I heard this story before?

The previous version was, I only want Poland to protect the Fatherland from Russia. Now substitute Ukraine for Poland, and NATO for Russia. 

Something about history, and it repeating itself

[TXSG8R 3325]

20 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Don’t be ridiculous. This is America. If you spend all that money on first class travel for service members, what’s left over for corporate contractors?

Before the Iraq war any flight over 8 hours was allowed to be bumped to business or first class. Once the pentagon started seeing all the contractor bills coming in for everyone flying to Kuwait that shit got nixed quick. 

[InkaUtexas 24834]

Have a good friend in Western Ukraine. They just started evacuating internationals. He says its on. Starting to hear from their groups in the east of a lot of movement. Furk......

 

[Eastwood 4394]

Putin will recognize the separatist regions and move in while saying "I'm not invading Ukraine, I'm liberating two sovereign nations who will vote to annex themselves to Russia."

Ah, well, nevertheless...

[bolverk 28892]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Absolutely.

Honesty, it doesn't seem like Kiev had full control of these areas for quite some time. Years? They can take much of the blame for not exercising control of their own country. I realize this is easier said than done with Russia helping the separatists but you got to take care of your own problems.

It's not just a supporting role they've been playing but a Russian-led operation since very early on in the conflict when the separatists were losing and Ukraine had almost taken back control.

Pushing locals aside, Russians take top rebel posts in east Ukraine

[Captainant 26869]

Germany is about to get a little darker methinks... Putin doesn't give a fuck about turning the lights off for a few days

[Bevo 13419]

Don't know how accurate but copied from Quora

 

[TXSG8R 3325]

15 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

The Swedes and Finns are a lock to join NATO after Russia invades

That’s a feature, not a bug for Putin. He gets to point at NATO expansion as justification for what he is doing. He doesn’t give a shit about NATO being on his doorstep, because he knows they aren’t a threat as long as he doesn’t touch a NATO country.

[Zonahorn 7855]

Just now, TXSG8R said:

That’s a feature, not a bug for Putin. He gets to point at NATO expansion as justification for what he is doing. He doesn’t give a shit about NATO being on his doorstep, because he knows they aren’t a threat as long as he doesn’t touch a NATO country.

At that point Russia would be completely surrounded by NATO in Europe

[InkaUtexas 24834]

I am tracking a few sites. One of the scary things I see is how he went from supporting the separatists zones to saying Ukraine could get nukes to stating Ukraine was a puppet controlled by nato. Homie is going in so the question is how far and will he use lube.

[Eastwood 4394]

Where have I heard this story before?
The previous version was, I only want Poland to protect the Fatherland from Russia. Now substitute Ukraine for Poland, and NATO for Russia. 
Something about history, and it repeating itself

I've gladly taken a back seat in this thread because Shady, 956, and others have posted some of the most inciteful and quality posts the Daily Texan has ever seen. Since the old site is borked and I can't reference the old thread, I'll just quickly state that a large chunk of my undergrad degree was studying the military, diplomatic, and geopolitical history of the Cold War. One of my final papers was on the myth of democracy in Russia and the rise of Putin as the first major power dictator since Hitler. He beat out Xi by about a decade.

Putin has said, openly, that his main goal is to restore Russia to its previous greatness and that the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy the world had seen. He didn't stop with South Ossetia, he didn't stop with Crimea, and he will not stop after this. The only way he stops is when he finally loses. He will never be peacefully removed from office because he uses a constitutional loop hole that allows him to perpetually swap places with a puppet between PM and president and never hit a term limit. He is good at keeping the right oligarchs happy and is patient enough to methodically lower the quality of life of Russians over decades to just enough where they won't miss the western goods when the next round of sanctions hit.

Given an infinite time frame, he would rebuild the Berlin Wall and only be half way done. But he only has a decade or two left in him and his patience will be wearing thin soon. If he pulls this off without any real push back from the West, I expect him to move much more quickly on his next endeavor.

[InkaUtexas 24834]

 

[InkaUtexas 24834]

 

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

I’m curious as to what Belarus and Lukashenko do. 
When Vald goes in, does he signal them to enter from the north?

Is the ultimate goal in this situation to capture Kyiv?

[Homercles 10164]

7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

 

[InkaUtexas 24834]

2 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

I’m curious as to what Belarus and Lukashenko do. 
When Vald goes in, does he signal them to enter from the north?

Is the ultimate goal in this situation to capture Kyiv?

there are Russian troops there already. They can make the run south and let the Belorussians watch the borders and cover the flank. This will be a Russian operation due to command and control. Putin does not need them. 

 

[bolverk 28892]

2 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

I’m curious as to what Belarus and Lukashenko do. 
When Vald goes in, does he signal them to enter from the north?

Is the ultimate goal in this situation to capture Kyiv?

Seeing that there are a reported 30,000 Russian soldiers in Belarus, Lukashenko may not have to send a single one of his soldiers in. If so, I'm sure they'd just play a supporting role.

[Nicole44 21941]

I wish we could just put a bullet in his brain and that would end it all. Great insight from a lot of you. Pretty much dovetails what my friend’s husband with the State Department has said about Putin not backing down and what he wants. Sad to watch. I guess we shut down the oil pipeline?

[FartingMonk 3604]

3 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

I’m curious as to what Belarus and Lukashenko do. 
When Vald goes in, does he signal them to enter from the north?

Is the ultimate goal in this situation to capture Kyiv?

If you saw Lukashenkos speech yesterday on that rebuke to an American reporter then you know he is ready to go.  

[InkaUtexas 24834]

 

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

I was told the revolution would not be televised. 

[bolverk 28892]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

They certainly won't be "independent" for much longer, considering they're waiving Russian flags to the Russian national anthem.

[TXSG8R 3325]

So my guess is NATO/UN drops some sanctions for the independent state stuff. Putin will say that Russia is being attacked first, and use that as part of the justification for liberating eastern Ukraine. Bonus is China will use any sanctions or reaction about the verbiage about the independent states as leverage for their actions on Taiwan. 

[Nicole44 21941]

 

[Nivek 16644]

1 hour ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Putin’s rhetoric, and interpretation of history, is honestly one of the more horrific things I’ve seen. He seems to want to rebuild the Soviet Union. 

um, are you just figuring this out?  

[KYHorn 16694]

So this goes back to his ultimate purpose in all of this. Was the military buildup to create a huge scene and drag out the anticipation and anxiety, only to take these small regions? I read somewhere (probably here) that these are not necessarily desirable nor particularly strategic areas, so its an interesting end goal if these small areas were all he wanted, because he got a whole lot on the other side of the leger as well.

[FartingMonk 3604]

1 minute ago, KYHorn said:

So this goes back to his ultimate purpose in all of this. Was the military buildup to create a huge scene and drag out the anticipation and anxiety, only to take these small regions? I read somewhere (probably here) that these are not necessarily desirable nor particularly strategic areas, so its an interesting end goal if these small areas were all he wanted, because he got a whole lot on the other side of the leger as well.

No way.  He had pretty much owned that area already.  Way too much equity to try and just steal the pot

[MoJames 8230]

1 minute ago, FartingMonk said:

No way.  He had pretty much owned that area already.  Way too much equity to try and just steal the pot

The Farting Monk has spoken.

[Eastwood 4394]

So this goes back to his ultimate purpose in all of this. Was the military buildup to create a huge scene and drag out the anticipation and anxiety, only to take these small regions? I read somewhere (probably here) that these are not necessarily desirable nor particularly strategic areas, so its an interesting end goal if these small areas were all he wanted, because he got a whole lot on the other side of the leger as well.

I think he was trying to draw Ukraine and any potential allies offsides. He doesn't want to throw the first punch and was hoping someone else would before the clock ran out. He had some false flags in his back pocket, but the US and others exposed those and kept him from using them. He's moving on to the next tactic of declaring those regions as sovereign nations in need of his aide. Ukraine must then either fire on Russia first or abandon the regions.

[FartingMonk 3604]

11 minutes ago, MoJames said:

The Farting Monk has spoken.

Out of my ass

[atomheartbevo 88756]

1 hour ago, Zonahorn said:

The Baltic states joining NATO was the smartest thing they have ever done.

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Now lets get the Finns to sign up. 

I think it'll be on the table in the not-too-distant future.  Putin will be out of territory in Europe to expand after Ukraine.

[atomheartbevo 88756]

54 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

At that point Russia would be completely surrounded by NATO in Europe

20 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

So this goes back to his ultimate purpose in all of this. Was the military buildup to create a huge scene and drag out the anticipation and anxiety, only to take these small regions? I read somewhere (probably here) that these are not necessarily desirable nor particularly strategic areas, so its an interesting end goal if these small areas were all he wanted, because he got a whole lot on the other side of the leger as well.

This is what I still don't get.  Russia spent centuries trying to be a major power in Europe, and Putin is pissing it all away and putting himself at Beijing's mercy. Hell, even the Soviet Union considered itself a major European power and acted as such.  Putin is acting like North Korea's Lil' Kim and giving Europe a reason to isolate Russia and its puppets.

Stalin would never have put himself at Beijing's mercy.

His economy is shit anyways, and this just makes it worse.  Can he put down a bunch of pissed-off Russians in the streets while trying to pacify parts of Ukraine?

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

The upcoming sanctions are gonna slam and go hard. 
Russian economy will be more janky than it is currently.

You got your mind right Vlad?

What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it… well he gets it. 
Any man playing grabass or fighting spends a night in the box.

Russia spending a night in the box soon.
 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

More quotes from his speech in this thread. Worth a scroll. 
 

 

 

 

[FartingMonk 3604]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is what I still don't get.  Russia spent centuries trying to be a major power in Europe, and Putin is pissing it all away and putting himself at Beijing's mercy. Hell, even the Soviet Union considered itself a major European power and acted as such.  Putin is acting like North Korea's Lil' Kim and giving Europe a reason to isolate Russia and its puppets.

Stalin would never have put himself at Beijing's mercy.

His economy is shit anyways, and this just makes it worse.  Can he put down a bunch of pissed-off Russians in the streets while trying to pacify parts of Ukraine?

If you believe this is about Beijing you are sorely mistaken.  This is about Putin's legacy.  He wants to be remembered in the history books as the savior of the Soviet Union.  He acts now or he just slowly loses his advantage and dies and is remembered as nothing more than a thug.

[InkaUtexas 24834]

 

[ABSR 5268]

1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

Where have I heard this story before?

The previous version was, I only want Poland to protect the Fatherland from Russia. Now substitute Ukraine for Poland, and NATO for Russia. 

Something about history, and it repeating itself

I think you are forgetting that Russia invaded Poland along with the Germans/Nazi's.  So only if Nato (in prior agreement with Russia) invaded Ukraine to take over the other half of Ukraine would the analogy fit.

But the Croatian = Sudetenland  and Ukraine = Poland - Nazi comparisons are reasonable.

[52-80 18969]

Fellow comrades, as we approach the 0th minute of the impending Vorld Var 3, there is but 1 question most pressing on all of our minds: 

 

what will this do to our stock portfolio?

[bluto 4800]

The Russian stock market tanked 10%+ today  

[atomheartbevo 88756]

15 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

If you believe this is about Beijing you are sorely mistaken.  This is about Putin's legacy.  He wants to be remembered in the history books as the savior of the Soviet Union.  He acts now or he just slowly loses his advantage and dies and is remembered as nothing more than a thug.

If he makes Russia reliant on China economically, that's not much of a legacy, even if he pulls back a big chunk of Ukraine.

It's like aggy thinking that the jump to the SEC was going to make their program relevant again - sure they got lucky with Manziel, but they quickly reverted back to being what they always were - the whipping boy of their conference.

[clapclapclap 8998]

"I haz big desk."

Edited February 21, 2022 by clapclapclap

[nineliveslost 2677]

9 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Fellow comrades, as we approach the 0th minute of the impending Vorld Var 3, there is but 1 question most pressing on all of our minds: 

 

what will this do to our stock portfolio?

It's fucked 

 

[52-80 18969]

4 minutes ago, bluto said:

The Russian stock market tanked 10%+ today  

also dragged down US equities futures in the shortened half session... tonights open will be ...interesting

[MoJames 8230]

5 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

"I haz big desk."

Cute Desk

[Brothahorn 10079]

6 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

"I haz big desk."

 

[DDD Dad 14060]

9 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

"I haz big desk."

@RamjetFDO Where's Bert?

[hersh95 92]

24 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

"I haz big desk."

looks like he got all his electronics in 2004 from Fry's......

[Captainant 26869]

5 minutes ago, hersh95 said:

looks like he got all his electronics in 2004 from Fry's......

torvarisch, is cutting edge in mother russia!