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AUS-97HORN
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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Reap.  Sow.  We know all the words for what dire straights they have painted themselves into 

this goes back to what i said about NATO being fucked. one of it's major members is Russia's bitch. Putin is playing chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers.

he infiltrated a certain party in our government. he's neutered nato by making a major member it's bitch.

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5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

He stated previously that Russia would be no match for NATO so they would be forced to use nuclear weapons. 

Which is bullshit as he knows once he launches he's a dead man and his entire country is eviscerated immediately. He's not launching nukes unless Russia is either launched on first or invaded. That's why you make it clear publicly and to him that NATO will not enter Russia. He's free to pull back on his own land and end this at any time. Call his bluff. This is the only way to put a halt to this type of shit going forward. 

In reality it should have been done years ago. Ukraine should have been fortified with Nato troops all along provided they accepted such help. Of they were offered and refused help then now we could say "we fucking offered and you wanted to go it alone"

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17 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

maybe because he's telling one of the guys who's a hell of a lot closer to this conflict than any of us, the same guy who has been providing extremely helpful insight on this thread for more than 3 months, that he doesnt like his use of the word associating with nazi?

 

He’s also just wrong. Putin has explicitly and repeatedly linked allegedly rampant Ukrainian neo-Nazism with anti-Semitism, Russian has endless words for describing the difference between fascists, Nazis and extremists and those words are all chosen very carefully, and any educated Russian will immediately recognize the absurdity of calling Jews “Nazis” in any context, whether referring to the ideology of the OUN/Banderovci or the Galicia SS or the Trawniki men or actual German National Socialists. 
 

Coming here to flex and say “well actually Russians see no conflict between being Jews and Nazis when we talk about Ukraine is just wrong.” 

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Which is bullshit as he knows once he launches he's a dead man and his entire country is eviscerated immediately. He's not launching nukes unless Russia is either launched on first or invaded. That's why you make it clear publicly and to him that NATO will not enter Russia. He's free to pull back on his own land and end this at any time. Call his bluff. This is the only way to put a halt to this type of shit going forward. 

In reality it should have been done years ago. Ukraine should have been fortified with Nato troops all along provided they accepted such help. Of they were offered and refused help then now we could say "we fucking offered and you wanted to go it alone"

Well, they did have all these cool nukes that one time.....

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

This "war" might be over by the weekend, and maybe I'm missing it, but have the Ukrainians put up any measure of coordinated resistance?  Are they just capitulating to spare the cities?

I'm seeing twitter posts on this thread showing significant counter-offensives.  by no means winning, but not the Iraqi elite guard either.

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8 minutes ago, Eastwood said:
12 minutes ago, Message Board User said:
Yeah Europe is proper fucked.
 

If only there was a way to foresee that their energy infrastructure was at the whim of one singular man who can act alone with impunity...

or a swedish teenage girl...

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33 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Someone please help my ignorance. Kyiv is outside the regions which Putin is claiming are independent, right? I know the truth means fuck all, but has he put out any explanation for going after the capital?

Based on his speech, the Excuse: “De-Nazification” by removing the current democratically elected government. 

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Just now, BabaYaga said:

This "war" might be over by the weekend, and maybe I'm missing it, but have the Ukrainians put up any measure of coordinated resistance?  Are they just capitulating to spare the cities?

All this is off of social media feeds, so understand context.

The stiffest resistance I've seen is in the northeast section of Ukraine. Russian forces took Sumy, but there is evidence of a defense. In the biggest city in the region, Kharkiv, Russian forces were beaten back.

Russian airborne troops took control of several airports, including Antonov, 15 miles north of Kiev. I've seen video of attacks on Hostomel, but nothing conclusive.

It's not like we're actually seeing the fights in real time (thank goodness!). And it's almost all amateurs. Amateurs with large boulders for balls and a ratio of desire for compelling video over concern about personal safety approaching infinity. 

There are maps that are being created which show three primary attack vectors. South from Belarus apparently trying to take Kiev quickly. The force invading the northeast area of Ukraine. And then a movement north from Crimea, at the southern end of Ukraine. It's unclear how successful any of them are being, what their objectives are, what kind of forces/resistance they've encountered, or how either side has really fared in those encounters.

That's the best update I can give you right now.

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Which is bullshit as he knows once he launches he's a dead man and his entire country is eviscerated immediately.

I hope you are right. Some analysts say he would 100% use tactical nukes on the battlefield, also there's a ton of talk out there today about how Putin seems different to negotiators. Like something happened to him. It might just be people talking shit though.

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Just now, SL Xpress said:

All this is off of social media feeds, so understand context.

The stiffest resistance I've seen is in the northeast section of Ukraine. Russian forces took Sumy, but there is evidence of a defense. In the biggest city in the region, Kharkiv, Russian forces were beaten back.

Russian airborne troops took control of several airports, including Antonov, 15 miles north of Kiev. I've seen video of attacks on Hostomel, but nothing conclusive.

It's not like we're actually seeing the fights in real time (thank goodness!). And it's almost all amateurs. Amateurs with large boulders for balls and a ratio of desire for compelling video over concern about personal safety approaching infinity. 

There are maps that are being created which show three primary attack vectors. South from Belarus apparently trying to take Kiev quickly. The force invading the northeast area of Ukraine. And then a movement north from Crimea, at the southern end of Ukraine. It's unclear how successful any of them are being, what their objectives are, what kind of forces/resistance they've encountered, or how either side has really fared in those encounters.

That's the best update I can give you right now.

also word of counter attacks happening or coming at the Kyiv airport too.  this is not US style shock and awe, this is a brawl with a big bully and a little guy that can throw a punch and isn't afraid to die trying.  good luck with that.

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Can someone explain to me the Chernobyl thing? What would the Russians want with it. I’m behind just trying to catch up this morning 

Could be used to possibly draw in other countries (or heighten other countries concerns) if there was risk of greater radiation leaks from damage. I'm guessing Russia is trying to control the area to prevent that from happening.

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So, in my Clancy-esque understanding of our military capability. we could theoretically fly some ELINT/CM birds up there and maybe stealthily fuck with Russian command and control.

As in that KC-135 mentioned above is actually an EC-135?

Is that feasible?  Too aggressive?

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Just now, crash_davis said:

good twitter site 

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/

 

So Germany, Italy, and Hungary I can wrap my head around. Why is Cyprus blocking it?

I did a very short amount of digging, and came up with this:

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/videos/2019/2/2/cyprus-golden-passports-bring-russians-into-the-eu

 

Cyprus ‘golden passports’ bring Russians into the EU

The government has earned more than five billion dollars from selling Cypriot passports so far.

The EU has warned that the “golden passports” being given by Cyprus to wealthy Russian oligarchs will allow organised crime to infiltrate the bloc.

Even some established Russian businessmen on the island are concerned, worrying that the new oligarchs do not live in Cyprus and the properties that they are purchasing will become a ghost town.

Pressure from the European Commission may bring an end to the “golden passports”, but for now, the marina in Limassol is rapidly filling with luxury yachts.

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1 minute ago, Hefeweizen said:

Fuck yes UK.  Always up for it.  Now start hammering the oligarchs finances and we’ll see that you’re serious.

Honestly that's the best non military way to go about this i can see. Seize every Russian oligarch' assets in NATO countries, cut off as much of their financial access as possible, and tell them all it gets returned when they serve up Putin's head on a platter. 

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2 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

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is that true though? I mean arguably the battle lines are not on the German border now like they would have been 20 years ago.  While NATO expansion is a direct cause of this, it doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion that expanding the NATO security apparatus was a bad idea.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, in my Clancy-esque understanding of our military capability. we could theoretically fly some ELINT/CM birds up there and maybe stealthily fuck with Russian command and control.

Is that feasible?  Too aggressive?

That's what I asked in the other CR thread. What's to stop us from disguising a large drone fleet in Ukraine fashion and attacking Russian troops from afar? Would the types of drones themselves give that away? And what does Putin do if we fight him stealthily while publicly acting like we are only sanctioning? 

I mean we spend more on military than the top 10+ other countries combined. Should be good for something besides killing Arabs. 

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