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[Buzzrock 14949]

Even Looch is ashamed of this bullshit:
 

He’s going in the pantheon with Iraqi propaganda guy.

[956 Worldwide 34795]

6 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Then you should clarify your post because it clearly is directed at Americans generally and not just those living abroad. 

It’s not directed at Americans at all, it’s directed at the far-left anti-Americans that are still influential in Europe and who do things like organize protests against NATO deployments. 

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Do you think the Russian “army” will capture and kill Zelenskyy and his cabinet (those that are staying behind?) holding back tears this morning thinking of all the brave people fighting and there is not a fucking thing I can do about it. I think about their families and especially their littles ughhh…

I don’t know at all what to think. They have allegedly offered negotiations in Minsk— absurd as it’s a country taking part in the invasion. 
 

I think they really want him to sign a surrender document, resign, then have him leave the country. That would be their ideal scenario— it would be far more morale breaking than killing him, which would provoke Ukrainians to fight harder. 

Edited February 25, 2022 by 956 Worldwide

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

8 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Good. 
 

Stop talking about it. FUCKING DO IT.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Reddit. R/combat footage has some good stuff 

Yes, yes it does.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

14 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Even Looch is ashamed of this bullshit:

 

"Neo-Nazi's"

The country run by a Jew? WTF.

[SimonBolivar 10960]

Just now, 52-80 said:

The sentiment seems to be that Russia will capitulate, due to hitherto (surprisingly) ineffective push into Ukraine.  Is this false hope? 

Yes, they are in Kyiv and will take the city. They do have plenty of egg on their face for poor performance and there might be a resistance that starts up. However, Kyiv will fall according to all the experts.

[Buzzrock 14949]

The sentiment seems to be that Russia will capitulate, due to hitherto (surprisingly) ineffective push into Ukraine.  Is this false hope? 

I’m no expert but at this time I think that is just sentiment, encouraged by stories like Snake Island and the fact that this seems to be taking longer than Pootin expected. I don’t think we can know yet. I’ve see a few different experts say that today is going to be worse for Ukraine than yesterday, but if they can hold out and get some help they could have a chance.

[Nicole44 22078]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

I don’t know at all what to think. They have allegedly offered negotiations in Minsk— absurd as it’s a country taking part in the invasion. 
 

I think they really want him to sign a surrender document, resign, then have him leave the country. That would be their ideal scenario— it would be far more morale breaking than killing him, which would provoke Ukrainians to fight harder. 

He said he’s not leaving and I’ve seen on different channels various member of his cabinet interviewed throughout the night and this morning and most headed back to the capital so to speak. Said if their people are fighting and losing their lives they can’t flee. Knowing they have a price on their heads. I absolutely respect this but it terrifies me for them and their families. My uncle and his friends (my uncle has been to Russia dozens of times and wrote his dissertation for his PhD at UT about Russia and he and his friends—Russian expats seem to think Putin would think nothing of capturing them and having them executed on live tv type deal)…and our/NATO’s response would be? 🥺🥺🥺

[956 Worldwide 34795]

To clarify— offer for negotiations in Minsk is absolutely an offer made in bad faith.  Like Hitler inviting Stalin to negotiate in one of his puppet states for an end to World War II. 

[NoRagrets 1127]

They’ll “take Kyiv” but good luck with the whole occupation thing when 100% of the civilians are armed and hate you.

 

[52-80 19266]

lots of chattering from the RU cabinet seemingly being open to talks now.  Could just be meaningless words, but what's even the point?  They've basically shown their hands so I don't see the point in deception - to lull the defenses?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

12 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

The sentiment seems to be that Russia will capitulate, due to hitherto (surprisingly) ineffective push into Ukraine.  Is this false hope? 

Sentiment from whom?

[SimonBolivar 10960]

1 minute ago, NoRagrets said:

They’ll “take Kyiv” but good luck with the whole occupation thing when 100% of the civilians are armed and hate you.

 

I hope that's the case, but I haven't heard of one story yet of civilians fighting anywhere in the country. 

[956 Worldwide 34795]

26 minutes ago, Shady Ray said:

I doubt this has made the English news before, but it is a fact that the Bundeswehr has to rent helicopters from the ADAC because it doesn't have enough.

 

What is the ADAC, you might ask?

 

The German version of:

 

 

 

Yep, and also a pretty stark demonstration of how legitimate announcements of moves to EU strategic autonomy are.  The Germans can’t defend Germany— NATO isn’t irrelevant for a long time now on the continent. This type of stuff won’t get picked up in the U.S. but it’s well known on the continent. 

[SimonBolivar 10960]

Russian market is up 25% today...toothless.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Russian market is up 25% today...toothless.

Such sanctions. So wow.

[Buzzrock 14949]

I hope that's the case, but I haven't heard of one story yet of civilians fighting anywhere in the country. 

There was footage posted earlier that was reportedly civilians fighting from an apartment building.

[Buzzrock 14949]

This is my favorite guy who has been on CNN this morning:

[Nicole44 22078]

Options on table:

SWIFT

Other sanctions not as severe as SWIFT

Hope one of the oligarchs (whose assets are frozen) gets pissed off and puts a hit out on Putin

Hope Ukraine can hold the Russians off

WW3

Kill Putin ourselves with Help from our allies

Do nothing more than collectively we are doing now and just make Russia a pariah in the world

ughhhh

[Nice Guy Eddie 13528]

Sanctions seem toothless to some extent. Gazprom isn’t allowed to seek western financing but Germany is paying Gazprom for natural gas. That feels like if we placed sanctions on HEB but only that they can’t accept Amex payments.

edit: assuming HEB is open in the first place.

Edited February 25, 2022 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Telegraph_it 3359]

14 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Stop talking about it. FUCKING DO IT.

Okay sorry. I just had my first cup of coffee. I am on central time zone. 

[DDD Dad 14352]

17 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It’s not directed at Americans at all, it’s directed at the far-left anti-Americans that are still influential in Europe and who do things like organize protests against NATO deployments. 

I don’t know at all what to think. They have allegedly offered negotiations in Minsk— absurd as it’s a country taking part in the invasion. 
 

I think they really want him to sign a surrender document, resign, then have him leave the country. That would be their ideal scenario— it would be far more morale breaking than killing him, which would provoke Ukrainians to fight harder. 

Ah, you are quite right. Apologies. It’s still early for me over here. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Okay sorry. I just had my first cup of coffee. I am on central time zone. 

Surly first, start WWIII second.

[956 Worldwide 34795]

7 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Such sanctions. So wow.

There are verified photos of the aftermath of the shelling of a kindergarten called “Solenshka”(Little Sunshine)  in Okhtyrka. I won’t post them and don’t recommend anyone going to look at them.  Every elected leader across Europe and the U.S. should have to look at them before going to work. 

Edited February 25, 2022 by 956 Worldwide

[Pig Bellmont 8740]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Options on table:

SWIFT

Other sanctions not as severe as SWIFT

Hope one of the oligarchs (whose assets are frozen) gets pissed off and puts a hit out on Putin

Hope Ukraine can hold the Russians off

WW3

Kill Putin ourselves with Help from our allies

Do nothing more than collectively we are doing now and just make Russia a pariah in the world

ughhhh

You missed: Russians killing Ukrainian president, installing new government, and then leaving while claiming victory 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

There are verified photos of the aftermath of the shelling a kindergarten called “Solenshka” in Okhtyrka. I won’t post them and don’t recommend anyone going to look at them.  Every elected leader across Europe and the U.S. should have to look at them before going to work. 

Indeed. This bullshit about "Russia is paying a 15% premium on global loans" is horseshit. CUT OFF THEIR MONEY SUPPLY COMPLETELY. 

[Zonahorn 8079]

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Today I’m completely grossed out by the entirety of the Western response.  Seriously weak sauce all around. Who gives a fuck if Russia purges Ukraine as long as we can keep F250s in cheap gas.

European energy policy has been head-bangingly retarded.

[Sawbonz 27600]

The idea that Putin will stop with Ukraine is laughable. He will next build up his forces on the border of whichever former Soviet NATO member he deems most vulnerable and start alleging corruption atrocities etc and then move in and again threaten nukes if NATO responds. We need to encourage Finland to get belligerent and help them behind the scenes 

[troph 24913]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Today I’m completely grossed out by the entirety of the Western response.  Seriously weak sauce all around. Who gives a fuck if Russia purges Ukraine as long as we can keep F250s in cheap gas.

why you gotta call him out like that? @F250 is a decent fella.

[TwiceHorn 31566]

That tank or APC running over the obviously civilian car is infuriating.

I think it was the General, Hertling? that predicted the Russians will engage in atrocities.

[Parliament 14337]

Live from the German Parliament:

 

 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

42 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

I feel largely the same about all the oligarch talk. Those people have worldwide financial networks and will get their corrupt pockets lined by China or whoever. The people who really need to feel the squeeze, and hard, are everyday Russians. Make them feel it and make them notice how few of their kids are coming back from Ukraine (coffins or not). This is an unpopular war already, time to turn up the heat.

 

The average Russian is already squeezed pretty flat. Russian people are practically suffer proof. If cracks started to form in Putins power hold over the country, shit would explode like a pipe bomb tho

[Hefeweizen 5335]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

That tank or APC running over the obviously civilian car is infuriating.

I think it was the General, Hertling? that predicted the Russians will engage in atrocities.

Rubio tweeted it too, but less specifically.  The longer this goes the more pressure from Putain on his military and since shit rolls downhill, down to the shitty NCOs.  
 

There are likely going to be isolated ones until the ROE changes and then look out.

[troph 24913]

so looks like overnight (US time) shit got real?  Zelensky says let's talk, Russia agrees?  talks happening?  another "Go Fuck Yourself" moment or is this the beginning of the end?  reports still saying it's most costly than Russia wanted, but 2 days to a negotiating table isn't that long, maybe the fact that Russia is even willing to talk is a win for the Z-ster?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

51 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

The west is proving itself unworthy of the legacy we were left to us by the men and women that were hero’s of the greatest generation. Sickening. 

Nothing on earth is more important than shareholder returns. Allowing that to be true is our greatest failure.

[utee94 15868]

Any offer of "talks" from Putin are bullshit.  To him that means complete Ukrainian surrender.  He has no interest in peace or negotiations.  If he did, it would have happened before the invasion.

[956 Worldwide 34795]

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

so looks like overnight (US time) shit got real?  Zelensky says let's talk, Russia agrees?  talks happening?  another "Go Fuck Yourself" moment or is this the beginning of the end?  reports still saying it's most costly than Russia wanted, but 2 days to a negotiating table isn't that long, maybe the fact that Russia is even willing to talk is a win for the Z-ster?

[Hefeweizen 5335]

Was this the sunflower lady?  She is metal as fuck.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

16 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Ah, you are quite right. Apologies. It’s still early for me over here. 

Thread policing is hard. Can’t win them all. Your sacrifice is noted. 

[Captainant 27828]

1 minute ago, Hefeweizen said:

Was this the sunflower lady?  She is metal as fuck.

Babushka don't give a fuck

[Deej 76952]

57 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Agree that sanctions are surprisingly not all that strong.

C'mon man, we have to hold some sanctions back so we can impose them when they invade Poland. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

I'd like to know more about Belgium's Defense Minister. 

[956 Worldwide 34795]

2 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Was this the sunflower lady?  She is metal as fuck.

That’s the translation.  “Lay down here= get killed.” Another badass like the guys on Snake Island. 

[956 Worldwide 34795]

6 minutes ago, troph said:

so looks like overnight (US time) shit got real?  Zelensky says let's talk, Russia agrees?  talks happening?  another "Go Fuck Yourself" moment or is this the beginning of the end?  reports still saying it's most costly than Russia wanted, but 2 days to a negotiating table isn't that long, maybe the fact that Russia is even willing to talk is a win for the Z-ster?

Russia’s agreement is not a real offer.  It is “surrender then we talk terms after. Also, you’ll be a hostage during the talks.”

[Hefeweizen 5335]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

I'd like to know more about Belgium's Defense Minister. 

Apparently Europe has the elect ( or appoint) hot women platform down.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13528]

At least we’ve learned about the relative weakness of the Russian and German military. 

[Trey3216 15375]

53 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

This really makes me wonder about our system of governments in the west.  Fundamentally we are terrible at getting it together until someone steps across a line which obviously hasn’t been reached yet.  
 

9/11 obviously comes to mind, as does Iraq in the opposite way.  But we are handing the playbook on how to take Taiwan to China.  Not intending to take this thread down that road, just thinking through some fundamental shortcomings in our responses to a really terrible human doing exactly what we knew he was going to do.  He’s just doing it out in the open.

Paralysis of idealism.  “Some men, you just can’t reach…” 

 

 

[Hefeweizen 5335]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

At least we’ve learned about the relative weakness of the Russian and German military. 

I did Nazi the German army being weak on the bingo card.  
 

i always thought the Leopard track was pretty badass.

[52-80 19266]

12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That tank or APC running over the obviously civilian car is infuriating.

I think it was the General, Hertling? that predicted the Russians will engage in atrocities.

didnt even know tankers were that agile.  thought they were big lumbering things but fucker turned on a dime