Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[Auto Driller 2506]

Is this the military equivalent of “better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt” for Putin?

[Doc Reeves 6434]

3 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Wait. I'm being told that they are actually sending 5,000 guys named Helmut. 

That’s a fucking solid German joke, sir. Bravo. 

[Trey3216 15347]

12 minutes ago, Skipper said:

After reading all of your in depth posts in the weeks leading up, I'm going to be really interested to read your analysis on the backend of this in the weeks that follow.  I.e., how do the Germany people reflect on their weak response, energy/military policies, etc. in the context of watching a full on Russian invasion of a European country I'm sure most didn't actually think would ever happen.  

 

[BabaYaga 15301]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I’m surprised Germany is such a limp dick. I’m not going to go into politics but relying on Russian energy and being pansy asses isn’t a good look on them, even worse they rely on US might to protect them. And they have a lot to lose here if Russia isn’t stopped at Ukraine. Just an odd acting country. 

They need Russia and we all know it.  They boxed themselves in and now can't do anything other than sit on the sidelines.

[Nivek 16944]

Russia’s agreement is not a real offer.  It is “surrender then we talk terms after. Also, you’ll be a hostage during the talks.”

I don’t think anyone needs this spelled out. Except maybe Johnny Sack

[Ted Lange 16110]

 

[TurkeyChew 383]

20 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I think pretty much the only thing that most of America actually agrees about currently is that we're tired of playing world police and sending our young men and women overseas to die.

And since no politician wants to be held responsible for $5 gas, there's pretty much nothing we can do.

Spot on.

[SimonBolivar 10958]

 

[Trey3216 15347]

9 minutes ago, ABSR said:

He is sending Russian Chechen's who are part of the Russian army's Chechen units.  He's not sending ISIS fighters, as they don't like or support Russia or Putin.   They don't like US/Europe either, but ISIS/Islamic fighters  certainly won't fight FOR Russia.

He's not saying they're sending ISIS fighters.  He's saying a portion of the ISIS onslaught were Chechen fighters.  

[Doc Reeves 6434]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I’m surprised Germany is such a limp dick. I’m not going to go into politics but relying on Russian energy and being pansy asses isn’t a good look on them, even worse they rely on US might to protect them. And they have a lot to lose here if Russia isn’t stopped at Ukraine. Just an odd acting country. 

That’s pretty much how the US has set it up because that’s how we wanted it. Additionally, they are also limited by their natural resources. Their role in NATO has always been as support because of its division until 1989. After that, it was a way to keep them dependent on us

[Nivek 16944]

 

You are team bloated drunk leader?

[Brothahorn 10087]

Man.  I have it on CNN and it has their correspondent Matthew Chance telling his story of what happened at the airport battle in Kiev today.  It is an absolutely insane story.  He was told by the Ukrainians that the airport was secured.  So they go walking around and they run into another group.  This group has no markings so he's just like hmm, we will record here.  They tell him go away it's very dangerous.  He asked why do you think the Russians are coming soon?  The guy says we are the Russians and then a huge fire fight breaks out.  Like what the fuck.

When guys with guns tell you to GTFO, you should GTFO. Especially in a warzone.

[SimonBolivar 10958]

What a terrible showing by the RU Air Force.

[Handcruser 2805]

What I’m getting out of all of this-

If just one country had some balls (Turkey, France, Canada, US, whomever) this fight would be over in 24 hours. Russia couldn’t handle ANYBODY else stepping in to help Ukraine.

He sure as hell couldn’t open up a second front against France or Canada. His only options would be defeat or Nukes.

I dont think her nuke but what do I know.

[troph 24840]

1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

What a terrible showing by the RU Air Force.

Wow just ducking wow. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They need Russia and we all know it.  They boxed themselves in and now can't do anything other than sit on the sidelines.

When you make a deal with the devil...

[troph 24840]

3 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

That’s pretty much how the US has set it up because that’s how we wanted it. Additionally, they are also limited by their natural resources. Their role in NATO has always been as support because of its division until 1989. After that, it was a way to keep them dependent on us

I get that but even their rhetoric is weak.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 minute ago, troph said:

I get that but even their rhetoric is weak.

Most of the German guys I know wear skinny jeans. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

 

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

[DigglerontheHoof 21202]

5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

What a terrible showing by the RU Air Force.

 

Hey Vladimir...

[Murfdogg21 4413]

1 hour ago, StruggleBus said:

Let's be honest. If shit goes down in the EU everyone will expect the US to resolve it. 

All while their population shits on us on reddit. 

New century, same song. We want you(r help), we need you, but there ain’t no way we’re ever gonna love you. 

[troph 24840]

4 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

What I’m getting out of all of this-

If just one country had some balls (Turkey, France, Canada, US, whomever) this fight would be over in 24 hours. Russia couldn’t handle ANYBODY else stepping in to help Ukraine.

He sure as hell couldn’t open up a second front against France or Canada. His only options would be defeat or Nukes.

I dont think her nuke but what do I know.

I have to believe the five things preventing the US changing course are: 1 - public sentiment, 2 - public sentiment, 3 - fear of nukes, 4 - fear of escalation in other theatres, and 5- public sentiment, 

[Brisketexan 105154]

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

Russia just threatened NATO if Sweden and Finland join.
Russia is openly threatening NATO, so a response of “NATO SAYS FAFO” is warranted.

[Nicole44 22060]

Been following Zelenskyy’s Twitter (heard during a conference call with some NATO members/Zoom type deal saying that this may be the last time the see him alive🥺):

 

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Why is a US general giving this speech? 

I don't know but that was a kick ass speech. When do I go to Ukraine? I'M PUMPED!

[Nivek 16944]

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

General?

[TurkeyChew 383]

15 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m surprised Germany is such a limp dick. I’m not going to go into politics but relying on Russian energy and being pansy asses isn’t a good look on them, even worse they rely on US might to protect them. And they have a lot to lose here if Russia isn’t stopped at Ukraine. Just an odd acting country. 

This is why a segment of the population were disgusted with NATO and other alliances and accords and wanted out or a more limited role; America ends up funding (in money, supplies, people, etc.) and paying the lion share because the rest of the body politic are, as you said, varying degrees of flacid.

Its like America always has to do 90% of the group project but everyone else who barely shows up or helps gets the A and thinks they are smart.

In this instance America is saying, someone else lead and y’all do the work, I’m going to sit back and either a) Europe doesn’t really care about Ukrainians and see them as others/Russians/outside of la familia or b) they are as spineless and financially compromised as we’ve always thought they were.

To me this is a black eye on globalism and shows you why you should have sovereignty built around your national strengths, so you have the autonomy and integrity to do what you want.

Edited February 25, 2022 by TurkeyChew

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

4 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

It's a speech from 2019, and you should probably brush up on your military rank identification skills.  When you have that blue ribbon around your neck people tend to listen

Edited February 25, 2022 by NeverMarryAStripper

[DigglerontheHoof 21202]

1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Most of the German guys I know wear skinny jeans. 

I've worked for two European based companies, over the last 18 or so years.  The Krauts are, without question, the weirdos of Europe both in how they act and dress.  Skinny white jeans with brightly colored jelly shoes seem to be a go-to look. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

51 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Russia don't want to fuck with Finnish Snipers.

[Bevo 13579]

6 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

Spot on.

 

7 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

  25 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I think pretty much the only thing that most of America actually agrees about currently is that we're tired of playing world police and sending our young men and women overseas to die.

And since no politician wants to be held responsible for $5 gas, there's pretty much nothing we can do.

Unless you are a politician who isn't a spineless jellyfish. As you can tell, I'm pretty disgusted today by the world's response: I wonder if this is similar to how we dealt with Germany leading up to WWII.

[Handcruser 2805]

Russia just threatened NATO of Sweden and Finland join.
Russia is openly threatening NATO, so a response of “NATO SAYS FAFO” is warranted.

I’m sure their document to join is hot off the printer and ready to go. All they need to do is “sign here”.

[Gap03 3308]

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

That's a 2019 speech by a staff sergeant that won the Medal of Honor.   

[StruggleBus 3922]

If the US had another draft, I'm curious if male hipsters would be considered eligible. 

[phdhorn 6224]

8 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m surprised Germany is such a limp dick. I’m not going to go into politics but relying on Russian energy and being pansy asses isn’t a good look on them, even worse they rely on US might to protect them. And they have a lot to lose here if Russia isn’t stopped at Ukraine. Just an odd acting country. 

Part of this is a not-yet-had conversation in here about the deep-seated, centuries-old nationalistic tendencies among European countries to think and do stuff that largely isn't perceived/understood by Americans.  I'm no Europolitik expert (though I did sleep in a Holiday Inn) but I've traveled enough in Europe to know that there exists these unspoken nationalistic tendencies, driven by almost ancient zeitgeists.  And though the younger generations might seem to be less autonomous in their world views, I think a lot of it still comes into play even for them.  I.e. when I said to my Hungarian grandmother in 1989 that Eastern Europe (and Hungary) was finally (sorta anyway) free, the first thing she said is, "those goddamn Romanians are going to try to take us over!" and she had been in the USA for 60 years at that point.  I don't think it's just racial or ethnic hatreds (though that's part of it), I think some of it is some sort of self-identity or something.  This might explain in part why Germans don't seem to be too worked up about all this, or even that Ukranians weren't all that outraged before the invasion (I heard a lot of "Russians are our cohorts, they won't attack us") etc.  It's a conversation that isn't easy to pinpoint, but sometimes Euros act "weird" to Americans (never mind vice-versa), hence the Italian P.M. sending out that "well, except for ..." memo.  I think Putin knows this sense of fierce European autonomy and gambled that that, not NATO, would be the ruling sentiment.  Perhaps he was somewhat right, I don't know.  But I think Europe sort of fatalistically doesn't see this as shocking as say we do.

Now if they go into a NATO country, all bets are off, and Russia will cease to exist while inflicting little damage back - unless somehow they get China onboard militarily, which I don't see at all at least now. IMHO about all this, anyway...

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 minute ago, Nivek said:

General?

Forget it, he's rolling.

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

DJIA churning. Up already 1.34%

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

Russia just threatened NATO of Sweden and Finland join.
Russia is openly threatening NATO, so a response of “NATO SAYS FAFO” is warranted.

That is a speech from 2019 from a Medal of Honor recipient.

[DigglerontheHoof 21202]

1 minute ago, Bevo said:

 

Unless you are a politician who isn't a spineless jellyfish. As you can tell, I'm pretty disgusted today by the world's response: I wonder if this is similar to how we dealt with Germany leading up to WWII.

Europe dealt w/ Hitler in the lead up to WWII.  At the time, the US was big-time into isolationist mode

[CooterBrown 18014]

13 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

 

Well, that there's some Big Dick Energy. Put it in the dictionary.

[phdhorn 6224]

1 minute ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Europe dealt w/ Hitler in the lead up to WWII.  At the time, the US was big-time into isolationist mode

Most of America was big time against the war even through its first third.  Until the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.  That changed everything.

[Nicole44 22060]

NSIAP but I am in awe of Zelenskyy also. 
 

 

[phdhorn 6224]

2 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Well, that there's some Big Dick Energy. Put it in the dictionary.

Mike Farrell, ex-Marine.  Listen to him.

Edit:  oops, not that Mike Farrell, I was thinking of the M*A*S*H actor.  But good stuff anyway.

Edited February 25, 2022 by phdhorn

[Trey3216 15347]

 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

10 minutes ago, troph said:

I get that but even their rhetoric is weak.

This thing could explode across Europe. They’re trying to display level headed thinking. Also, we haven’t told them what to do yet. 

[Captainant 27680]

9 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

That's a medal of honor acceptance speech from 2019 I believe

[CooterBrown 18014]

3 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

 

All US contracts with Indian companies and H1B visas are cancelled tomorrow. FAFO.

 

Edited February 25, 2022 by CooterBrown

[GabrielsHorn 2186]

Will be interesting if NATO calls their bluff. 

[Bevo 13579]

11 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Seems out of the blue.  Why is a US general giving this speech?  Is some US asset threatened that I don't know about?

I agree - Some reserves are being called up, though, and of course we are putting troops in the Czech Republic and Poland.

[Eastwood 4394]

He is sending Russian Chechen's who are part of the Russian army's Chechen units.  He's not sending ISIS fighters, as they don't like or support Russia or Putin.   They don't like US/Europe either, but ISIS/Islamic fighters  certainly won't fight FOR Russia.

However, there is a lot of pro-Kremlin tribal forces out of region now. I could forsee an opportunistic tribe moving to quickly gain territory.