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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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The only logical conclusion you can reach about the lack of air support is that the Russian air force is in shambles and unmaintained like their ground forces seem to be. I'm sure what we are seeing being used is all they have available.

I'm sure most of their maintenance budgets have disappeared into the pockets of corrupt commanders and oligarchs.

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The only logical conclusion you can reach about the lack of air support is that the Russian air force is in shambles and unmaintained like their ground forces seem to be. I'm sure what we are seeing being used is all they have available.

I'm sure most of their maintenance budgets have disappeared into the pockets of corrupt commanders and oligarchs.

I wonder if it's more like they don't feel like risking their expensive jets when trucks and troops are cheaper to replace until Ukrainian AA is relatively neutralized? I'm trying to give them some benefit of the doubt, but it's becoming harder and harder to do as their equipment keeps getting set on fire.

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6 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Whoa...the swiss might get involved? (if true)

This is a bizarre development.  They've gladly banked terrorists, genocidal maniacs, tyrants, and thieves for decades.  But a few villages roughed by Russian troops and they're gonna pull the plug on all that money?  That's really strange.  I think this means Russia is going to try something horrifying in the days/weeks ahead and the Swiss want to stay out in front of it.  

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This is a bizarre development.  They've gladly banked terrorists, genocidal maniacs, tyrants, and thieves for decades.  But a few villages roughed by Russian troops and they're gonna pull the plug on all that money?  That's really strange.  I think this means Russia is going to try something horrifying in the days/weeks ahead and the Swiss want to stay out in front of it.  

War in Europe is different.  It just is.  You can’t blame Europeans for this but it hits different. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawndoh said:

The only logical conclusion you can reach about the lack of air support is that the Russian air force is in shambles and unmaintained like their ground forces seem to be. I'm sure what we are seeing being used is all they have available.

I'm sure most of their maintenance budgets have disappeared into the pockets of corrupt commanders and oligarchs.

I'm going back to the threat of nukes was enough and no one really took a look under the hood because nukes. Meanwhile all the money meant to go to defense spending just went to pockets of oligarchs. 

This is a stunning shit show of the highest order. 

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This is a bizarre development.  They've gladly banked terrorists, genocidal maniacs, tyrants, and thieves for decades.  But a few villages roughed by Russian troops and they're gonna pull the plug on all that money?  That's really strange.  I think this means Russia is going to try something horrifying in the days/weeks ahead and the Swiss want to stay out in front of it.  

Cuz Putins money is probably mostly with Deutsche Bank

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  I think this means Russia is going to try something horrifying in the days/weeks ahead and the Swiss want to stay out in front of it.  

Western society has spoken on the issue and everyone is lining up to take their shot. Invading a white country that borders NATO is a different animal to Europeans.

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The more this goes on, the more I am thinking this was actually an internal coup to remove Putin. Feed him bad Intel, when he acts on that intel and decides to invade, sabotage his invasion with the worst war planning we have seen since Hitler's second half of WW2, and leave Putin in a such a weakened state that the people of Russia are practically begging for him to be removed and the rest of the world will gladly accept his replacement.

This whole operation seems so out of character for Putin that he's either gone insane or he was sabotaged by his own circle of Intel and generals. If he doesn't take Kyiv by Monday, I'm seriously concerned that he will hold a nuclear gun to the rest of the world's head and demand a way out of this mess.

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I'm going back to the threat of nukes was enough and no one really took a look under the hood because nukes. Meanwhile all the money meant to go to defense spending just went to pockets of oligarchs. 

This is a stunning shit show of the highest order. 

Seems the chechens pics are not the demoralized and old looking shit like the rest of Russia. Maybe less beak wetting there? 
 

I hope that they don’t openly attack civilians indiscriminately and commit the war crimes that are projected. The Swiss getting involved makes a lot of sense if nukes are being talked about. It’s clear that the world views an aggressor using nuclear weapons is an attack on life on earth itself and is not going to be tolerated. 

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3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I wonder if it's more like they don't feel like risking their expensive jets when trucks and troops are cheaper to replace until Ukrainian AA is relatively neutralized? I'm trying to give them some benefit of the doubt, but it's becoming harder and harder to do as their equipment keeps getting set on fire.

What would they be saving them for, though?

Commanders in the US are famous for not using expensive equipment like the Apaches or stealth fighters/bombers for fear of losing them. But that tends to be in cases like when peacekeeping forces were stationed in the Balkans, or with the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. When it came to the actual invasions of Iraq part 1 and 2, or the initial advances in Afghanistan, everything was on the table. 

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9 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

There’s a difference with this resistance and what was shown in Afghanistan and Iraq. Both of those were failures in occupation, which is a different sort of hurdle. 
 

Not to mention they were projections of power halfway around the world. What we’re seeing in Ukraine from a logistics and competency perspective is the equivalent of the US military not being able to make advances after invading Mexico, right across the American border, while invading with built up forces from 3 sides in the north and south, plus making an amphibious landing. 
 

This has just looked like a colossal logistics fuck up, not to mention a bewildering demonstration of a lack of air power, and a damnation of general troop training and support. 

I agree. There is too much military competence spread around the world to make invasions successful. Only if the focus is narrow, which it certainly wasn't for us in Iraq and Afghanistan. By the looks of it the Russians bit of more than they could chew as well.

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17 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

From what I am seeing they are handing stuff off at the border. 

That's great and all, but it's still a LONG way off from Kyiv. A few questions I have...

  1. When they get their anti-tank and anti-air missiles, do the Ukrainians have a big enough force to attack the Russians from behind? Or are they being distributed to civilians?
     
  2. Do any of those trucks delivering weapons belong to NATO countries? 
     
  3. Wonder how many "little green men" have crossed the border and are fighting for the Ukrainians?

 

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What would they be saving them for, though?

An inane fear of conflict with the West? If you read Gaddis or other historians in his historiographical corner on the Cold War, you often see a Soviet leadership group that has little idea about what the West actually wanted or intended to do. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Putin thinks that Western leaders have the same wants that he has. Ethnocentrism is a bitch.

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1 minute ago, Superhero said:

That's great and all, but it's still a LONG way off from Kyiv. A few questions I have...

  1. When they get their anti-tank and anti-air missiles, do the Ukrainians have a big enough force to attack the Russians from behind? Or are they being distributed to civilians?
     
  2. Do any of those trucks delivering weapons belong to NATO countries? 
     
  3. Wonder how many "little green men" have crossed the border and are fighting for the Ukrainians?

 

1. Seems like they have plenty of people willing to do whatever all over not just in the cities under siege. 
2. yes except inside of Ukraine after handoff or without Ukraine escort from what everyone can gather. 
3. a few hundred tops, but that could make an enormous difference. 

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This whole operation seems so out of character for Putin that he's either gone insane

I think it's this. He's getting up in age has had these delusions of grandeur since he was a kid and he's running out of time. Probably has enough yes man around him to confirm his wishes.

Been a lot of fun lighthearted stuff in this thread along with good info but I do think things are getting serious; we're getting as close as we've been since 1962 to a nuclear conflict, even if it's "just" regional. I would like to hope that Putin isn't completely bonkers yet but a lot of foggy public Intel interp seems to be pointing that he's lost some of his marbles anyway.

One extra thought, I wonder if Putin tells Zelinskyy at the table to lay down arms or he'll throw down tactical nukes (the old, "well kill your family if you don't relent" strategy).

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2 hours ago, Auto Driller said:

China taking a big L on this one too. In addition to looking like a bunch of jackasses for having tacitly supported Russia in the lead up to the invasion, the world has now clearly seen that a smaller country can effectively resist a full scale invasion from a “super power”. Taiwan suddenly isn’t looking so vulnerable.

Taiwan has been upgrading their military tech by buying foreign weapons and developing their own. But their tech and numbers are still no match for China. These smart Chinese strategy will be to mine the ports and choke off supplies coming into Taiwan. That's my thought anyway.

I say this while my parents still live there. My dad (82 YO) says it won't happen in his life time, but I'm not so optimistic.

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https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-u-s-mission-russia/

Event:  An increasing number of airlines are cancelling flights into and out of Russia, and numerous countries have closed their airspace to Russian airlines.  U.S. citizens should consider departing Russia immediately via commercial options still available.

The U.S. Embassy reminds U.S. citizens that the Department of State’s Travel Advisory level for Russia is at “Level 4: Do Not Travel.” Click here for the full text of the Travel Advisory for Russia.

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16 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

War in Europe is different.  It just is.  You can’t blame Europeans for this but it hits different. 

Yep. Spoke to a German colleague last week and that was what I took from his comments. Europe has not seen an invading army for 70 years, but the memory is still fresh. 

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