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[troph 24783]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

I assume the US could crush with cruise missles and drones 

Probably not. Maybe I don’t know.

[elfenix 34230]

44 minutes ago, Constant said:

Not sure 

 

 

that's belarus so presumably not nato donations.

[BabaYaga 15290]

Apologies is already posted.  This doesn’t suck

 

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

50 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

They going to let them park them at NATO bases? Because if you park them in Ukraine, they'll be rocketed within the hour too.

Who’s got a surplus of Soviet era fighters? Poland? Germany? This isn’t Independence Day where some mad Ukrainian crop duster mounts up on an F18 after a crash course in modern avionics. 
 

I suspect Russia may lash out at those countries in some manner first if they’re really in “Why the Fuck Not?” mode.  

[Constant 6731]

Can we all just take a sip of our drink and revel in the fact that a career KGB, militaristic mastermind, despot of an asshole is getting his shit pushed in by the guy who voiced the Ukrainien version of Paddington Bear?

 

 

[SL Xpress 7513]

6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

A decade?   How about two?   Asking for a few Iraqi and afghan friends?

 

Again, not going to get into it in detail, but that was a complete failure on the part of US occupation strategy. Could have been there a hundred years and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Never had a plan, from the get go. Never had competent leadership. Study how MacArthur treated the Japanese population and how he led the occupation there versus all the bullshit surrounding both Afghanistan and Iraq. Night and day. And MacArthur didn’t exactly become a nativist. He just knew how to be a benevolent dictator. Was made for it in certain ways, frankly. 
 

It’s not about the amount of time. It’s not about the boots on the ground. It’s not about effectively meeting local needs with local solutions, all while educating the populace and introducing and ingraining the concept of the rule of law. It’s about all of these. And if you miss any of these pillars, you’re going to get fucked. The US didn’t have the boots on the ground. They solved contractors’ needs for massive cost plus purchases through government contracts with no understanding or caring of what the people on the ground actually needed. They never bothered enacting huge public education campaigns - and why not? Our own system is completely fubared in a few dozen ways. They never had a goal of creating a professional, independent judiciary system. They never created an effective professional, locally run bureaucracy.

There was never a time during the long years of occupation of either Iraq or Afghanistan it had a scintilla of a chance at success. You can tell your Iraqi and Afghan friends that, but they already know. They’ve always known. They experienced it first hand. 

[workswithseed 2102]

Russia is done for.

 

[BabaYaga 15290]

It’s starting to happen.   This is just the beginning 

Key policy points from Scholz: - over 2%/GDP for defence - €100bn special fund for defence - two new LNG terminals - supplementary coal and gas reserves - accelerated renewables roll-out - new Bundeswehr deployments in NATO eastern flank states

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

Fuckers 

 

[Telegraph_it 3357]

12 minutes ago, Keef said:

Take this for what it’s worth, but I have a family member with 20+ years in Navy intel services. He texted the family that he’d recommend getting 2 weeks of emergency supplies in case of a cyber attack against the grid. Pretty measured guy, so wanted to pass along. Scary times. 

 

10 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

got the same from my dad who spent 35+ in special operations, most intel. 

So should I bunker down in Terrell County, Menard County, Culberson County, or Dawson County? Menard has tons of pecan trees but those might get irradiated. 

 

[The Ace of Aces 5181]

1 minute ago, Constant said:

Can we all just take a sip of our drink and revel in the fact that a career KGB, militaristic mastermind, despot of an asshole is getting his shit pushed in by the guy who voiced the Ukrainien version of Paddington Bear?

 

 

I haven’t posted much about Putin himself so this is as god as time as any. 

Vladimir Putin is no mastermind. He is clever and had great political instincts (until recently) but he’s not very smart. He does not think things through. He gets an idea, acts on it, and then figured out later how to manage the situation he created. His KGB training didn’t allow for thinking things through and the fact he was plucked out to be a leader was a little luck and a lot of happenstance and nothing really to do with his mindset.

I know quite a few who have had to deal with him/his admin directly. They all say he’s not all that bright. 

[USNALonghorn 5078]

5 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Russia is done for.

 

The people storm Putin’s bunker and publicly dismember him…

[tejas60 3533]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Fuckers 

 

did they not see the paratroopers that were getting shot down by civilians?

[BabaYaga 15290]

5 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Again, not going to get into it in detail, but that was a complete failure on the part of US occupation strategy. Could have been there a hundred years and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Never had a plan, from the get go. Never had competent leadership. Study how MacArthur treated the Japanese population and how he led the occupation there versus all the bullshit surrounding both Afghanistan and Iraq. Night and day. And MacArthur didn’t exactly become a nativist. He just knew how to be a benevolent dictator. Was made for it in certain ways, frankly. 
 

It’s not about the amount of time. It’s not about the boots on the ground. It’s not about effectively meeting local needs with local solutions, all while educating the populace and introducing and ingraining the concept of the rule of law. It’s about all of these. And if you miss any of these pillars, you’re going to get fucked. The US didn’t have the boots on the ground. They solved contractors’ needs for massive cost plus purchases through government contracts with no understanding or caring of what the people on the ground actually needed. They never bothered enacting huge public education campaigns - and why not? Our own system is completely fubared in a few dozen ways. They never had a goal of creating a professional, independent judiciary system. They never created an effective professional, locally run bureaucracy.

There was never a time during the long years of occupation of either Iraq or Afghanistan it had a scintilla of a chance at success. You can tell your Iraqi and Afghan friends that, but they already know. They’ve always known. They experienced it first hand. 

That’s my whole point.   Germany and Japan were two industrialized nations broken after a world war.  We’re the Russians to try and occupy the Ukes it would be akin to the Iraq and afghan occupations.  A slow bleeding from a defiant civilian force…for which the military is ill equipped to handle.  

[Constant 6731]

1 minute ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I haven’t posted much about Putin himself so this is as god as time as any. 

Vladimir Putin is no mastermind. He is clever and had great political instincts (until recently) but he’s not very smart. He does not think things through. He gets an idea, acts on it, and then figured out later how to manage the situation he created. His KGB training didn’t allow for thinking things through and the fact he was plucked out to be a leader was a little luck and a lot of happenstance and nothing really to do with his mindset.

I know quite a few who have had to deal with him/his admin directly. They all say he’s not all that bright. 

The other guy voiced the Ukrainien version of Paddington Bear. 

[troph 24783]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Fuckers 

 

How on earth do they think this one will be different without air superiority there’s a decent chance they get shot out of the sky.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

That's a lot of cheesecake

 

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

 

[RDCanecutter 26411]

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Fuckers 

 

Are those paratroopers, or O-line?

[The Ace of Aces 5181]

Just now, Constant said:

The other guy voiced the Ukrainien version of Paddington Bear. 

There is a reason Putin hates him. 

[InkaUtexas 25907]

13 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

This is explains a lot about your experience and breadth of knowledge 

Maybe. Mom was also a bad ass. Spent a few years working on my own in Bosnia (hence knowing Ruskie doctrine) and about 7 years in Afghanistan. I just follow this shit, read a lot, and like to think when running. 

[troph 24783]

And remember what Rubio who has been nails accurate and is likely an official outlet of US intelligence - Putin is off and not the same. Dangerous times indeed. 

[MillerEP 30454]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

How on earth do they think this one will be different without air superiority there’s a decent chance they get shot out of the sky.

It's likely that Belarus has the same Russian propaganda piped in and so they don't know/believe in the danger.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

did they not see the paratroopers that were getting shot down by civilians?

Hard to know any of that when state media shows them a different narrative

[Telegraph_it 3357]

Just now, troph said:

And remember what Rubio who has been nails accurate and is likely an official outlet of US intelligence - Putin is off and not the same. Dangerous times indeed. 

Yea this is what has me slightly worried. Rubio’s last few tweets are not optimal. 
 

Having gone three days without power last year I don’t need a cyber attack or EMP in 2022. 

[Dbeasy 15047]

I need to know what the political Nostradamus of Surly, BrisketTexas, believes is going to happen. Every time he posts some outrageous, unbelievable prediction, he's been right more often than not.

[The Ace of Aces 5181]

2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

It's likely that Belarus has the same Russian propaganda piped in and so they don't know/believe in the danger.

Belarus is Russia. Russia is Belarus. They’re the same, operating under the same leaders and generals. 

[SizzleChest 8283]

 

[SizzleChest 8283]

3 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Yea this is what has me slightly worried. Rubio’s last few tweets are not optimal. 
 

Having gone three days without power last year I don’t need a cyber attack or EMP in 2022. 

More likely that happens in the EU than here, at least from a widespread perspective.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Maybe. Mom was also a bad ass. Spent a few years working on my own in Bosnia (hence knowing Ruskie doctrine) and about 7 years in Afghanistan. I just follow this shit, read a lot, and like to think when running. 

Interesting. Quite the background.  
 

What’s your take on the more aggressive financial actions we’ve taken like freezing CB assets? 

[elfenix 34230]

9 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

That's a lot of cheesecake

 

[Handcruser 2805]

If Belarus goes in we should eviscerate them.
They’re not Russia.

[troph 24783]

10 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Maybe. Mom was also a bad ass. Spent a few years working on my own in Bosnia (hence knowing Ruskie doctrine) and about 7 years in Afghanistan. I just follow this shit, read a lot, and like to think when running. 

You’re a pretty cool guy. I like anyone that likes to think. 

[troph 24783]

Washing machine started a spin cycle it sounded like a muffled military helo and me and my partner both looked at each other for a split second. Then we laughed.

[RDCanecutter 26411]

Just now, troph said:

Washing machine started a spin cycle it sounded like a muffled military helo and me and my partner both looked at each other for a split second. Then we laughed.

That's how it starts.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

 

[Viper 12108]

2 hours ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Looks like there might be another great turkey shoot if true. 

Putin: As God as my witness I thought Belarusians could fly. 

[InkaUtexas 25907]

Just now, troph said:

You’re a pretty cool guy. I like anyone that likes to think. 

Appreciate it. I like your posts. 

So back to Ukraine. I always thought they could hold west of the river, but not like they have. Damn impressive. This morning there will be telling. I think they hold and the Russians end up asking for a ceasefire. 

Fuck Putin and Belarus. 

[Hermanator 7039]

Not sure whether to just get drunk or what. I guess can buy some canned food for use if this gets sideways for a couple of weeks without power and then get drunk.

[SL Xpress 7513]

3 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

That’s my whole point.   Germany and Japan were two industrialized nations broken after a world war.  We’re the Russians to try and occupy the Ukes it would be akin to the Iraq and afghan occupations.  A slow bleeding from a defiant civilian force…for which the military is ill equipped to handle.  

I guess at this point I don’t see how a Russian occupation happens. I also don’t see how they’re similar. Iraqi people welcomed US troops as liberators. US special forces used local tribes as force multipliers against the Taliban. There was a huge amount of support and good will. 
 

I’d also say Ukraine is way closer to Germany and Japan than it is Iraq and Afghanistan. 
 

Not to mention Russia has always had different objectives regarding occupying foreign states than the US. They prefer repressive states subordinate to the Kremlin, with the use of force when it’s not acting appropriately subjugated. That’s a different type of occupation. 
 

Again, the military doesn’t have any real solutions to solve an occupation. That has to be done on the civil side. The ONLY thing ANY military can do is act as a police force in a police state. Trying to make an occupation into something that needs a military solution will always end in failure. Except genocide. That’s the one exception. And that’s certainly been done plenty of times before. 

https://revcom.us/a/027/vietnam-destroy-village.htm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1562125/archaeology-news-evidence-genocide-roman-empire-ancient-history-spt

https://phys.org/news/2009-12-evidence-unearthed-mass-cannibalism-neolithic.html

[troph 24783]

We have plenty of water, going to grab some rice and beans (x5) and some charcoal under the radar the next day or so just in case. Guns and ammo covered. We have our rv generators too, might grab some petrol for them. 

[StruggleBus 3922]

1 minute ago, troph said:

Washing machine started a spin cycle it sounded like a muffled military helo and me and my partner both looked at each other for a split second. Then we laughed.

You need to take some time away from the news 

[RDCanecutter 26411]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Appreciate it. I like your posts. 

So back to Ukraine. I always thought they could hold west of the river, but not like they have. Damn impressive. This morning there will be telling. I think they hold and the Russians end up asking for a ceasefire. 

Fuck Putin and Belarus. 

I want to hear that bagpipes started playing and the Ukrainians counterattacked.

[Herbie Hancock 7345]

We have plenty of water, going to grab some rice and beans (x5) and some charcoal under the radar the next day or so just in case. Guns and ammo covered. We have our rv generators too, might grab some petrol for them. 

There’s wild overreaction and then there’s this. Cool your jets turbo you’re starting to sound like Brisket

[troph 24783]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Appreciate it. I like your posts. 

So back to Ukraine. I always thought they could hold west of the river, but not like they have. Damn impressive. This morning there will be telling. I think they hold and the Russians end up asking for a ceasefire. 

Fuck Putin and Belarus. 

I know no troops but this is a US backed war and one we’ve been preparing for on the ground for a decade with a receptive military. We tried in Iraq and Afghanistan but in Ukraine it actually worked. I was surprised too until I started changing how I see this. Ukrainian military is essentially a sixth branch of the US military in a lot of ways. I’m thoroughly impressed at how prepared and disciplined they’ve been. 

[BabaYaga 15290]

3 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

The ONLY thing ANY military can do is act as a police force in a police state. Trying to make an occupation into something that needs a military solution will always end in failure.

My whole point 

[troph 24783]

Just now, Herbie Hancock said:

There’s wild overreaction and then there’s this. Cool your jets turbo

$25 to prepare is so overkill. 

[Skipper 6133]

15 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Yea this is what has me slightly worried. Rubio’s last few tweets are not optimal. 
 

Have to think Rubio is attempting to communicate with Russia military as much as anyone else.  It's not like it's a secret he's the public mouthpiece for US intel.  I read some of these as making it clear that we know Putin is the problem/loose cannon.  Not Russia.   In case anyone wants to be a hero.

[troph 24783]

5 minutes ago, StruggleBus said:

You need to take some time away from the news 

That’s true. But I’ve got some shit brewing with my ex such that war news is easier. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by troph

[SimonBolivar 10958]

Rubio's tweets are certainly pointing to a Russian military win in the future. I think we all expect it, but it's going to suck when it happens.