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[BamaATL 16593]

13 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Not trying to be an ass, but that’s actually a myth.

Not taken that way at all, if it isn't true its not.  I'd just always heard that, and it made sense to me given how many stretches of the system have fairly straight runs for over a mile.  

[BamaATL 16593]

2 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

DOT says myth. Army says fact. 
 

Ofcourse, the myth busted is that 1 in every 5 miles has to be a suitable runway. That seems like a bit much. I doubt that such a system was built and no one thought to put in a few strategic places for that very purpose. 

I have no proof to agree with this, but I seem to remember this being the case, it's true to a degree, but grossly overstated.  Again, I have no proof to offer on this.  

[Captainant 27762]

With all the logistics talk, Wendover Productions on YouTube put out a good explainer on the logistical failures of Russia 

TLDW - Russias military runs on rail networks and Ukraine cut it's rails from Russia's so they have to rely on trucks to move goods. Their trucks are poorly maintained and vulnerable to simple small arms and molotovs, so troops are out of supplies. To make things worse (for pvt Ivan), russian doctrine is pretty much soviet doctrine so there's zero flexibility to quickly adapt to new challenges

Edited March 6, 2022 by Captainant

[Rimbo 26075]

9 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

This is crazy.  So Putin and oligarchs have been stealing basically all their defense money for the last 20 years?  It’s inconceivable that this is what their jets are relying on. 

9 hours ago, DaysOff said:

Putin is a gay man. I said what I said.

The people most ardently against homosexuality are the closeted gays terrified they'll be found out. I believe it.

8 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

For some reason, his name rings a bell...

I don't get the reference.

7 hours ago, Nivek said:

sitting on nuts is not what I advise.  

Says you

7 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

SIAP:

 

I know that this is all probably propaganda, but dear me, I want it so much to be true.

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I wish I shared the confidence of those who are confident that Putin won’t use nukes. We’re constantly being told how unhinged he is, and he has enough nuclear weapons to destroy every major western city at once.

Truth. Those claiming him doing so would be nonsensical are forgetting that he's not using any sense.

 

5 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So according to Statista, Russia's GDP was 1.483 trillion in 2020.  Of that GDP only 4.9% was dependent on oil and gas, which right now is pretty much all they have going for them.  I'm by no means an economist,  but that looks like beyond disaster status and into absolute economic death penalty type status.  I know a GDP is more complex as this also accounts for internal trade, but I can't think for the life of me that this combined with the 4.9% would equal anywhere near 50% of their until ten days ago total economy.  

Basically, I guessing near 50% of the Russian economy is gone, totally gone, for good.  That's great depression level of economy lost, without any clear path to recover it, ever.    

Really feel for the Russian people, who are basically prisoners in their own country now.

4 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

It really is time for Zelensky to take off to Poland.  Russia only needs to be right one time and he's a goner. It only takes one stray eye.  One lukcy comm intercept and the Russians kill him.  He needs to think about a government in exile just for a few more weeks because Russia is going to run of of supplies.

 

No, this is a bad idea. If he dies, he becomes just as powerful as a martyr. And sadly, he knows it, too.

This is why the man has balls of absolute steel. He knows they're after him, he knows he's likely going to die, but he stays there anyway, because he also knows it's what's best for Ukraine.

Who wouldn't follow him? He is, in every way, the anti-Putin.

[BamaATL 16593]

8 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

The people most ardently against homosexuality are the closeted gays terrified they'll be found out. I believe it.

I don't get the reference.

Says you

I know that this is all probably propaganda, but dear me, I want it so much to be true.

Truth. Those claiming him doing so would be nonsensical are forgetting that he's not using any sense.

 

Really feel for the Russian people, who are basically prisoners in their own country now.

No, this is a bad idea. If he dies, he becomes just as powerful as a martyr. And sadly, he knows it, too.

This is why the man has balls of absolute steel. He knows they're after him, he knows he's likely going to die, but he stays there anyway, because he also knows it's what's best for Ukraine.

Who wouldn't follow him? He is, in every way, the anti-Putin.

I got to thinking about this again, and if my math is roughly correct, the US defense budget 2022 is $770 billion, will exceed the Russian GDP by about $70 billion.  That's sort of mind boggling.  The that pre Ukraine it was already at least 50% of their GDP is crazy.  

[FartingMonk 3608]

9 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

The people most ardently against homosexuality are the closeted gays terrified they'll be found out. I believe it.

I don't get the reference.

Says you

I know that this is all probably propaganda, but dear me, I want it so much to be true.

Truth. Those claiming him doing so would be nonsensical are forgetting that he's not using any sense.

 

Really feel for the Russian people, who are basically prisoners in their own country now.

No, this is a bad idea. If he dies, he becomes just as powerful as a martyr. And sadly, he knows it, too.

This is why the man has balls of absolute steel. He knows they're after him, he knows he's likely going to die, but he stays there anyway, because he also knows it's what's best for Ukraine.

Who wouldn't follow him? He is, in every way, the anti-Putin.

I don't agree with the idea of someone being a matyr.  If he is dead and we try rebuild that govt we need the people to be 100 sure of him.  His replacement will just be accused of being a puppet. 

 

 

 

 

[MillerEP 30496]

Interesting, a new unit maybe? I wonder which unit is using the hourglass symbol. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by MillerEP

[atomheartbevo 89788]

Didn't have this on the bingo card.

 

[MillerEP 30496]

 

Edited March 6, 2022 by MillerEP

[atomheartbevo 89788]

Russians could be telling captors what they want to hear, but these stories certainly match up with what we are actually seeing happen in Ukraine.  Russian troops ill-equipped and ill-prepared for a full-on shock-and-awe invasion

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[Pods 7586]

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

I realize the myth stature but there have to be a shit ton interstates, highways and byways with multitudes of  6,000 foot sections  of straight pavement.

It's called Nebraska. 

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, Pods said:

It's called Nebraska. 

That's the shittiest of Springsteen's albums.  

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[Rimbo 26075]

34 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

I don't agree with the idea of someone being a matyr.  If he is dead and we try rebuild that govt we need the people to be 100 sure of him.  His replacement will just be accused of being a puppet. 

 

 

 

 

That's why UA's allies are already having discussions about his succession:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/us/politics/russia-ukraine-succession-zelensky.html

[Rimbo 26075]

7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Anyone else read this and hear it in the TF2 Engineer's voice?

[BamaATL 16593]

Has anyone been tracking Chinese tank movements and deployments?  I'm betting the Chinese are thinking that if this continues they can easily annex Siberia and every thing east of the Urals.  That's another power that gives a damn about losing people, and the mineral wealth in the region might make it worthwhile to them.  

[tx 3 putt 77399]

Can that TorM2 be turned around on the Russians ?

[MillerEP 30496]

Copy-pasting into one giant text the FSB Officer's analysis from Igor Sushko's post above because it's interesting, (the parenthesis are Igor's comments): Quote since it's long.

Quote

I will add clarification comments inside parenthesis where necessary. So, let's roll: 
"I have hardly slept at all these days, at work at almost all times, I have brain-fog. Maybe from overworking, but I feel like I am in a surreal world.
The Pandora’s Box is open – a real global horror will begin by the summer – global famine is inevitable as Russia and Ukraine are main producers of wheat. (MY COMMENTARY: I disagree that this will result in global famine.)
I can’t say what guided those in charge to decide to proceed with the execution of this operation (Ukraine invasion), but now they are methodically blaming us (FSB). We are being scolded for our analysis. Recently, we have been increasingly pressured to prepare more reports.
All of these political consultants and politicians and the powers-that-be are causing chaos. Most importantly, no one knew that there will be such a war – it was concealed from everyone.
For example – you are being asked to analyze various outcomes and consequences of a meteorite attack on Russia (MY COMMENTARY: Here he most likely means the West’s sanctions) –
So you research the mode of attack, and you are being told that it’s just a hypothetical and not to stress on the details, so you understand the report is only intended as a checkbox for some bureaucrat, and the conclusions of the analysis must be positive for Russia,
otherwise you basically get interrogated for not doing good work. So, you have to write that we have all necessary measures available to nullify the effects of a given type of attack. We are completely overworked.
But then it turns out that the hypothetical has turned into reality, and the analysis we’ve done on that hypothetical is total trash. We have no answer to the sanctions because of this. No one knew there’d be such a war, so no one prepared for these sanctions.
It’s the flipside consequence of the secrecy – since everyone was kept in the dark, how could we prepare for it?
Kadyrov has gone nuts. We (FSB) were very close to a conflict with him because the Ukrainians claimed to having received intel from the FSB on his squad in Kyiv.
Kadyrov's squad was absolutely demolished before they even had a chance to fight and they got blown to pieces. I do not have any info that it was an FSB leak to Ukraine, so I’d give it a 1-2% chance – but can’t exclude this possibility completely.
Our Blitzkrieg has totally collapsed. It is impossible to complete the task: If Zelensky and his deputies were captured in the first 3 days, all key buildings also captured, and they were forced to read an address of their surrender to the country,
then Ukraine’s resistance would have likely dissolved to a minimal level. Theoretically. But then what? Even in this IDEAL outcome, there remained an unsolvable problem: Who is the counterparty to our negotiations?
If we remove Zelensky – fine – who is going to sign the agreement? If Zelensky signs, then that agreement is worthless after we remove him. ОПЗЖ (The Opposition Party in Ukraine collaborating with Russia) has refused to cooperate.
Medvechuk, the coward, ran away. There is another leader – Boyko, but he refused too, even his own people won’t understand him. Wanted to bring back Tsaryova, but even our guys are against him here in Russia. Bring back Yanukovich? But how?
If we are saying we can’t occupy, then the newly formed government will be overthrown in 10 minutes as soon as we leave.
To occupy? Where would we find that many people? Commandant’s office, military police, counter-intelligence, security – even at minimum resistance from the Ukrainians, we’d need over 500,000 people, not including supply & logistics.
There’s a rule - if you try to cover for bad quality leadership with quantity, you’ll make everything worse. And I repeat this would be the problem in the IDEAL SCENARIO, which does not exist.
And what now? We cannot announce general mobilization for two reasons: 
1) Mobilization will implode the situation inside Russia: political, economic, and social.
2) Our logistics are already over-extended today. We can send a much large contingent into Ukraine, and what would we get? Ukraine – a territorially enormous country, and their hate towards us is astronomical.
Our roads simply cannot accommodate the resupply of such convoys, and everything will come to a halt. And we can’t pull it off from the management side because of the current chaos.
These two reasons exist concurrently, although just one of them is enough to break everything.
With regards to Russian military losses: I don’t know the reality – no one does. There was some information the first 2 days, but now no one knows what is happening in Ukraine. We’ve lost contact with major divisions. (!!)
They may re-establish contact, or may dissipate under an attack, and even the commanders don’t know how many are dead, injured, or captured. Total dead is definitely in the thousands, maybe 10,000, maybe 5,000, or maybe just 2,000.
But even at our command no one knows. But probably closer to 10,000 Russian soldiers killed. And we are not counting losses at DNR & LNR.
Now even we kill Zelensky or take him prisoner, nothing will change. The level of hate toward us is similar to Chechnya. And now, even those loyal to us in Ukraine are publicly against us.
Because all of this was planned at the top (in Russia), because we were told that such a scenario will not happen (Ukraine invasion) except only if we were to be attacked first.
Because we were told that we need to maximize our threats in order to negotiate an outcome through peace. Because we were already preparing protests against Zelensky in Ukraine without ever considering invading Ukraine.
Now we are stuck waiting until some mentally screwed up advisor convinces the top to start a conflict with Europe, with demands to reduce the sanctions – they either loosen the sanctions or war.
And what if the West refuses? In that instance I won’t exclude that we will be pulled into a real international conflict, just like Hitler in 1939. Our “Z” will be equated to the Swastika.
Is there a possibility of a localized nuclear strike (in Ukraine)? Yes. Not for any military objectives. Such a weapon won’t help with the breach of the defenses. But with a goal of scaring everyone else (The West).
We are plowing to create a scenario to blame everything on Ukraine. Naryshkin (Director of Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia) and his SVR is digging the ground to prove that Ukraine was secretly building nuclear weapons. F*&K.
They are hammering at what we’ve already analyzed and closed the book on: We can’t just make up any evidence or proof and existence of specialists and Uranium. Ukraine has a ton of depleted isotope 238 – this is nothing. The production cycle is such that you can’t do it in secret
A dirty bomb can’t be created in secret. Ukraine’s old nuclear power plants can only produce the material as a by-product in minimal amounts. The Americans have such monitoring at these plants with MAGATE that even talking about this is stupid.
Do you know what will start in a week? Let’s let it be even in 2 weeks. We are going to be so screwed we will start reminiscing about the good ol’ hungry days of the 90s.
As the markets are being closed, Nabiullina appears to be taking the right steps, but it’s like plugging holes on a ship with your fingers. The situation will break through anyway and even stronger. Nothing will be solved in 3 or 5 or 7 days any longer.
Kadyrov is kicking his hoofs not without reason. They have their own adventures. He created a name for himself as the invincible – and if he falls down once his own people will remove him.
Next. Syria. “Guys – hold on, everything will end in Ukraine and then we will fortify our positions in Syria.” And now at any moment our contingent stationed there may run out of supplies, and then ridiculous heat will come….
Turkey is closing the strait, and sending supplies to Syria by air is the same as heating an oven with cash. Please note – this is all happening at the same time, and we don’t even have time to throw it all in one pile for analysis.
Our current position is like Germany in 1943-1944 – but that’s our STARTING position in Ukraine.
Sometimes I get lost in this overwork, sometimes it feels as if this is just a dream and all is as it was before.
With regards to prisons – it will get worse. The nuts will start to get tightened till blood. Everywhere. To be frank, purely technically, this is the only way to maintain any control of the situation.
We are already in total mobilization mode. But we can’t remain in this mode for long, but our timetables are unknown, and it will only get worse. Governance always goes astray from mobilization. And just imagine: You can sprint 100m – but try that in a marathon.
And so, with the Ukrainian question we lunged as if going for a 100m sprint, but turned out we’d signed up for a marathon. And this is a rather brief overview of the current events.
To offer further cynicism, I don’t believe that Putin will press the red button to destroy the entire world. 
First, it’s not one person that decides, and someone will refuse. There are lots of people involved in the process and there is no single “red” button.
Experience shows that the more transparent the control procedures, the easier it is to identify problems. And where it’s murky as to who controls what and how, but always files reports full of bravado, is where there are always problems.
I am not sure that the “red button” system functions according to the declared data. Besides, plutonium fuel must be changed every 10 years.
Third, and this is the most disgusting and sad, I personally do not believe in Putin’s will to sacrifice himself when he does not even allow his closest ministers and advisors to be in his vicinity.
Whether it’s due to Putin's fear of COVID or a possible assassination is irrelevant. If Putin is scared for the most trusted people to be near him, then how could he possibly choose to destroy himself and those dearest to him? ( END OF TRANSLATION )

 

[MillerEP 30496]

 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

Surprised it took this long,

 

[Post Oak 20262]

43 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

Really interesting

[UTGrad98 2281]

14 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Copy-pasting into one giant text the FSB Officer's analysis from Igor Sushko's post above because it's interesting, (the parenthesis are Igor's comments): Quote since it's long.

 

Reading that makes me feel a little better. 

[MillerEP 30496]

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-punisher-drones-hit-russian-troops-multiple-times-reports-2022-3

Ukraine's army is using a nimble 'game-changing' drone called The Punisher that has completed scores of successful missions against the Russians, say reports
Alia Shoaib 19 hours ago

[TwiceHorn 31534]

3 hours ago, Telegraph_it said:

Don’t know about the training part. A plane is a plane though right? I’ve flown a Baron so I could probably fly a f-16 /sarcasm

A plane may be a plane, to a large extent (there have been some references to dramatic differences between western and eastern bloc instrumentation), but a weapons system is not a weapons system.  And I think that's the biggest issue of all.

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

23 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Has anyone been tracking Chinese tank movements and deployments?  I'm betting the Chinese are thinking that if this continues they can easily annex Siberia and every thing east of the Urals.  That's another power that gives a damn about losing people, and the mineral wealth in the region might make it worthwhile to them.  

Clancy novel. The Bear and the Dragon. This war sets up that war quite well. 

[MillerEP 30496]

 

[cactusflinthead 27601]

 

[MillerEP 30496]

 

[BamaATL 16593]

5 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Clancy novel. The Bear and the Dragon. This war sets up that war quite well. 

I've read several Clancy novels in my youth, I didn't find them interesting, just as I don't find them interesting now.  His prose was dreadful and in no way insightful.  I wish people would stop referencing them in real world situations.  The second Putin either backs down or is deposed our killed, I think the Chinese will act in an opportunistic manner.  

Given the piss pour operation that Putin has unleashed in Ukraine, who doesn't think him weak?  Hell the Mongolians may well strike.  

[conVINCEd 21469]

8 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

There are a lot of favorite moments from this war, but a babushka downing a drone with a bottle of pickles makes the top 5 for sure.

Edited March 6, 2022 by conVINCEd

[Gravy Train 974]

Okay everyone, stop posting autoplay shit from Reddit, especially useless bullshit memes.  

Fuck Reddit in general, the whole of it entirely, but there is one video posted to 57 subs just 6 hours ago that's incredibly powerful. 

Note his plea (at the end of his interview) to Ukrainians who take Russian POWs, to save their health and life, because, "if you let them die, nobody will be able to go to our homeland [back to Russia] to tell them what happened here."

 

[tx 3 putt 77399]

Ukraine Grandmas are out there fighting and pitching in. Good luck with that occupation 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

3 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

Otis, my man!

Even crayon eaters are going WTF.

Edited March 6, 2022 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[cactusflinthead 27601]

 

[BachelorTrek 3061]

53 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

How many "Company" guys have run to Ukraine to film all this abandoned enemy tech?  Lulz.

[tx 3 putt 77399]

3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

dear leader will not like this !!!

Edited March 6, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[BamaATL 16593]

6 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Work in an orthodox country on a Sunday.  Ok so then workers showing up on a Sunday to protest, sure thing.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

5 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

How many "Company" guys have run to Ukraine to film all this abandoned enemy tech?  Lulz.

We're buying it wholesale on the Ukraine farmers commodity market.

Don't worry RDCanecutter has already figured out the side hustle for us all to cash in.

Edited March 6, 2022 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[Da Fino 2783]

There is some evidence out there that they've figured out how to use larger commercial drones as a munition delivery system in a local battlefield. Which makes me think 'advisors' testing new tech.

I can’t imagine they would risk doing that.

Apparently, it is Ukraine tech. It is a local battlefield drone that is dropping a RPG type munition from above. 
https://en.topwar.ru/178854-ukraina-osvoila-vypusk-boepripasov-dlja-bpla.html

That is interesting, though.

[tx 3 putt 77399]

Just now, Da Fino said:

 

I can’t imagine they would risk doing that.



That is interesting, though.

 

make it rain !!!!

[conVINCEd 21469]

1 minute ago, Da Fino said:

 

I can’t imagine they would risk doing that.



That is interesting, though.

 

Eastern Europeans tend to be resourceful mfers.  Just my experience, YMMV.

[Longhornlove 4883]

14 minutes ago, Gravy Train said:

Okay everyone, stop posting autoplay shit from Reddit, especially useless bullshit memes.  

Fuck Reddit in general, the whole of it entirely, but there is one video posted to 57 subs just 6 hours ago that's incredibly powerful. 

Note his plea (at the end of his interview) to Ukrainians who take Russian POWs, to save their health and life, because, "if you let them die, nobody will be able to go to our homeland [back to Russia] to tell them what happened here."

 

This should be played world wide repeatedly.

[Gravy Train 974]

For those who were asking about the nuke strike order system, this is a somewhat refreshing quote on that 2000-word, incredibly-damning FSB interview that was posted 2 hours ago.  It's fascinating and hellish at the same time, I'd recommend giving it a read.
 

 

[Shady Ray 1633]

9 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Not a bad argument…but I don’t think we go there with that help right now with all eyes on Ukraine. We could…though Vlad. We can do a lot of stuff to you and your plans. Lots. And we haven’t even gotten to the final option yet fucker! 

 

Yes. This is a great idea, Anders. Now hear me out, guys: what we do is to funnel in advanced, modern lethal weaponry to the fighters operating in Idlib. Ya' see, since these fine people dislike Russia, they are therefore by definition good, peaceful democratic folks who have peace at the forefront of their minds. Thennnnn...once Russia is defeated, they will lay down their arms and will certainly create a forward-thinking society of tolerance, in which people of all colors and creeds will then come together and contribute to the betterment of global humanity as a whole, with particular attention paid to lifting up their young women in a respectful, progressive manner. But most importantly, war and conflict there will be over and those people will certainly not turn those weapons upon each other and no innocent civilians will be brutalized or subjugated. There is zero chance of that happening whatsoever.

I mean, we have done this this before and I don't think anyone could say that there was any blowback whatsoever from arming those fine fellows, outside of that little hiccup in Afghanistan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus, some of these manichean hot takes on Twitter are fucking ridiculous. Can we just stick to supporting Ukraine and let the fucking jihadis and Russians kill each other in Syria and not giving The Artist Formerly Known as Al-Qaeda advanced fucking weaponry. Good God.

Edited March 6, 2022 by Shady Ray

[MillerEP 30496]

Just now, Gravy Train said:

For those who were asking about the nuke strike order system, this is a somewhat refreshing quote on that 2000-word, incredibly-damning FSB interview that was posted 2 hours ago.  It's fascinating and hellish at the same time, I'd recommend giving it a read.
 

 

This is pretty much what I was trying to get at earlier when I said I do not think it'll ever come to nuclear war. Historical precedence has shown that somewhere along the line somebody refuses. Cooler heads usually prevail. I posted the whole thing earlier, the FSB guy also says Putin is not suicidal.

[blacklab 11950]

32 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

 

 

 

[Chewbacca 7783]

Has anyone been tracking Chinese tank movements and deployments?  I'm betting the Chinese are thinking that if this continues they can easily annex Siberia and every thing east of the Urals.  That's another power that gives a damn about losing people, and the mineral wealth in the region might make it worthwhile to them.  

The Bear and the Dragon on deck.

[MillerEP 30496]

One of the pilots they shot down today and captured is just chilling with Assad, so he probably bombed Syrians before Ukrainians. People on twitter are undecided if he's the one by Assad or Putin. I think he's the dude on the right:

Edited March 6, 2022 by MillerEP

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