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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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9 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

That's actually kind of a propaganda coup for Putin.   The reasoning for the deportation isn't 100% sound but one of those was that (some of) the Crimean Tatars had collaborated with the Nazis.  Some probably did but Putin now has this additional thing to show the Russian people and say "See, I told you the Ukrainians were Nazis" no matter how false it might be.

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46 minutes ago, dimyh said:

This is actually a good sign, good in the sense that Putin still feels threatened by any objectivity. If Putin was orchestrating a shift in his PR machine to explain that the special operation is tougher than expected then that would give him a couple of avenues forward. If he only holds onto minimal objectives (annex donbas, inflict economic pain) then tampering down expectations will make that minor "win" more palatable to the populace. 

Kinda feels like the attacks on the commerce/manufacturing/etc. targets ties into the economic pain/punishment.  Destroying the steel plant in Mariupol fulfills two objects - economic pain, and "reducing Ukraine's capacity to manufacturer military-related systems that could be used to attack Russia".

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Instead they are still playing up super high expectations. All for a war with vague strategic goals. Plus having one of his PR staff go off-script in the first place means there is a lack of oversight with the message. As this war stretches on without major successes then there is going to be more and more opportunities for that war message to drift off point. Or eventually tuned out or recognized as the bullshit that it is.

We are over 80 days in, so I still wonder if it was off-script, or he was floating a balloon out there to see what would be said, either by the other hosts, or by other countries.

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We've been using laser weapons for drone and other small target intercept for a while now. We are actively trying to expand the capabilities and our use of those and similar systems. This sounds pretty similar to for instance the LaWs system employed on a few of our ships (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/SEQ-3_Laser_Weapon_System). 

 

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Ukraine wants long-range missiles to hit inside Russia.  I understand why they want them, and wish they had them, but I also understand our not wanting them to hit deep inside of Russia with US-made weapons.

And Ukraine appears to be hitting inside the Russian border regions with what they already had.

Alcoholics in the Kursk Oblast are probably hating life right now.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/ut1dym/more_good_news_from_exfsb_doomer_girkin_russias/i96ved1

 

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To questions like: "what's new on the fronts?" It's hard for me to answer now. On the fronts, almost everywhere - battles. Somewhere positional, somewhere offensive and (increasingly) defensive. In general, with the exception of the Donbass and the Kharkiv region, the front is stable. Ours and ukry are digging in. And it's very bad. Why? - Yes, because if a month and a half ago, in the Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog directions, the enemy had only mobile defense, now they are intensively creating strongholds on the front line and in their near rear, which then will inevitably have to be taken VERY LONG AND WITH GREAT LOSSES. Like Mariupol, like Popasnaya, Izyum, Rubizhne and Severodonetsk. We will again have to wage stubborn bloody battles for every village, every grove and skyscraper ... it is expensive to pay with Russian blood for every few hundred meters traveled. And it seems that there will be no one to "ask" for this - "of course, by the objective course of events it turned out that way" ... although this is not at all the case.

 

At the beginning of the operation, the RF Armed Forces just demonstrated highly maneuverable actions, deep strategic breakthroughs for tens and even hundreds of kilometers. Which ended in "zilch" for reasons that I have repeatedly called and described. (Initially, a fundamentally wrong assessment of the operational situation, which was the basis of military planning and the extreme lack of forces and means associated with this assessment to consolidate and control the territory passed, etc.). Nevertheless - despite the final discouraging "semi-failure" (there was no "run to the border" in the south), the first stage of the operation - it (compared to the "Second Concrete") - looks much more "alive" than that " bloody push-pull" into which the fighting has degenerated since late April to this day. Simply because at the first stage there was no conscious purposeful and even "pre-glorified" near-military "experts" sticking the active army into a STRATEGIC DEADLOCK. The military decisions were bold and aimed at achieving a decisive victory. While even the FULL success (which is not visible in the near future) of the second stage, at best, will only lead to costly (in terms of losses in people and equipment) relatively small territorial acquisitions achieved by PUSHING the enemy out of Donbass.

 

Imagine for a moment that the enemy in the next few weeks will still be completely defeated by continuous frontal and flank attacks and completely driven out of the LDNR. - AND? - And what will it give? Will it end the war? - No, not at all. The maximum will shorten the front line somewhat and nothing more. Suppose the enemy suffers heavy losses (he still bears them). But in these few weeks, he will be able (due to ongoing mobilizations) to prepare new fresh reserves. Moreover, he already has these reserves! - The enemy is so confident in the strategic stability of his front (on which the surrender of 1-2 settlements in 2-3 days has no effect) that he continues to keep a relatively large grouping on the border with Transnistria and even created a new one (several army BTGs) on the border with Belarus. And he continues to form new units and formations both in the deep rear and in the Sumy and Chernihiv regions abandoned by the Russian troops during the "run to the border".

 

That is, when our formations, weakened by the hardest battles and bloody assaults, reach the borders of the LDNR, they will be met by fresh and well-equipped formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the lines prepared in advance for defense. And even if these fresh formations do not want (for some reason) to seize the initiative and launch a counter-offensive (one or more) - all the same, the Russian Federation will face the prospect of a long positional war in full growth - a war, almost (with a reservation - in current realities) fatal for our economy, social and socio-political stability.

 

But I will be honest - receiving a lot of messages "from the field" from soldiers, junior and middle commanders, sufficient to create an approximate "mosaic" of the general situation at the front - I personally do not have much hope that the task of completely clearing the Donbass will be completed, although until the middle of June. Moreover, I believe (with a high degree of probability) that it will not be carried out until the very moment when the Armed Forces of Ukraine try to seize the strategic initiative by starting offensive operations already planned right now (I'm sure). And - yes - I believe the most dangerous direction in this regard is Kherson, since it is here (and the enemy is PERFECTLY KNOWN) on the defensive there are units of the DPR reservists that (only "Lugansk") the enemy has ALREADY thrown back to the Russian border in the Kharkiv region. Moreover, the Donetsk reservists - in fact, the militias - will certainly fight. And they will fight hard. But their weapons and equipment "leave much to be desired" about the same as their command or even more (although I probably already "turned down" this).

 

But, let's say, for some reason, the enemy will not attack, but will limit himself to sitting on the newly built defensive lines (inviting our generals to continue to "smash their soldiers' foreheads against numerous "fortresses"). And what will the high command do in this case?

 

After all, without a breakthrough of the newly created and occupied positions by large enemy forces, there will be no defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And without the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there will be no final victory - no matter how many "calibers" you fire at rear facilities, they still won't be enough to completely paralyze the Ukrainian transport network and destroy the economy "to the ground". Moreover, it is impossible to hope for victory "by exhaustion", provided that the "rear" for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is almost all of Europe plus North America. That is, you will have to try to defeat the enemy in field battles. And, excuse me, by whom and with what?!? If so far even partial mobilization has not been carried out ??

 

No one can give clear answers to all these questions. Simply because they don't exist. While the pests in the environment of the president will assure him that: "Everything is fine, beautiful marquise- A little more and our triumph Don't stress, don't look for surprises: Our love and honors are waiting!"

 

 • nothing will change. And when it changes (unfortunately, the "surprises" will probably be no less discouraging than before the "run to the border") 

 

 • it will be too late to do a lot ...

 

In the meantime ... In the meantime - in general terms:

 

 • South of Izyum, units of the RF Armed Forces and the LDNR are still "bashing head-on" against the ukrov defenses on the approaches to the Slavyansk-Barvenkovo highway and to Slavyansk itself (for the last couple of days - there is no information about progress);

 

 • Heavy battles with a slow advance are taking place north of Popasnaya and south of Lisichansk (there is no talk of any “cauldron” for the enemy in this area yet - so far there has just been a likely “bag” with a very wide “neck”, which our fighters still it will be necessary to “tie up”, which the enemy is also well aware of - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not led by morons, but by specialists from NATO);

 

 • Also slowly, our troops are "compressing" the city of Liman (Red Liman) and trying to break through to Svyatogorsk;

 

 • Near Donetsk, fierce attacks continue northeast of Avdiivka and southwest of Gorlovka, in the area south of Maryinka, I have no information about the progress in the last 24 hours (so far, at least).

 

In Maruipol, the final surrender of Azovstal by the enemy and the capture of the group defending it is a major propaganda success, but - in the overall picture - it is a delayed consequence of the relative success of the FIRST stage of the operation, and not the "second-specific" one. In real time and from a military point of view, this is also, unfortunately, a purely tactical success. No more.

 

As a general result: our successes are still exclusively tactical in nature. The enemy is trying to keep ALL important military and information-propaganda large settlements. And - apparently - has enough strength and reserves to hope for success in this. If not complete, then at least partial. The "battle to starvation" (as I have repeatedly noted - as a military decision, I rate it no higher than "idiotic") in the Donbas continues and the "strategic impasse" (for the RF Armed Forces, but not for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are gaining time) is getting deeper.

 

P.S. Those wishing to "make" any claims for the above conclusions to the author (ie me) - I refer to the text fixed at the top of the page. 

 

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Yikes. That's a tricky situation. Giving them weapons to strike military targets inside Russia has obvious benefits. But if civilians start getting smoked by our long-range weaponry, that could escalate things quickly, and with great benefit to Putin's messaging within the populace. But if they're already flinging less-accurate stuff over the border, that problem may come about anyway. And if it's guaranteed that they're going to kill a bunch of civilians because they don't have the right equipment, would it be better to give them that more-accurate stuff that great reduces the chance of civilian deaths?

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Turkey needs to grow some balls and escort the freighters to get that grain. They and their neighbors are going to need it. Play the politics right and they’ll be the hero that saved the Islamic world, and the third world, from famine.

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I've lost track of how many NATO countries have vowed to support/defend Sweden/Finland if they are attacked by Russia, but it's got to be around a third so far, including the US, UK, France, Germany, Norway, Denmark, and a few others.  If Russia fucks around, their Baltic fleet will go bye-bye really fast.

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Part 2 of thread posted yesterday: https://justpaste.it/7l2r1 (part 1 also found at link)

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...However, as it turned out, it was not an attack on Dolgen'koye. Either the plans have changed, or the officers made a mistake, but we simply went on a path along the fields and shrubbery towards Suligovka village which was around 2,5 kilometers from Brazhniki, and by now was under our control for 6 days. However, we didn't know that. We kept thinking we were going to attack Dolgen'koye and that we needed to take the first street in this village. As we walked, Ukrainian army noticed us and started shelling us from GRADs and mortars. During the second, rather massive shelling I already said goodbye to my life - I thought that was it, that the next bomb will either rip my legs off or kill me instantly. It was really scary. 

 

That fella who was given a machine gun, he was 38 years old and not really used to physical activity. He was very exhausted from marching and running around with a machine gun, an assault rifle and an armoured vest, and his heart started aching. We reported about this to our commander. He told me to stay with the guy and to cover the retreat of the wounded from companies that were ahead of us. We moved back a bit, waited for the wounded (there were 4 of them, lightly wounded - someone in the hand, another had a shrapnel enter his back through an armoured vest, another had a light leg injury - everyone walked on their own). The wounded moved on but we stayed for another 40 minutes. We've heard how our guys got shelled with GRADs once more. Then me and this fella, we went down to Brazhovka village. I was carrying a machine gun. After staying there for 3 hours I went with someone on someone's BTR to Suligovka. The other guy also went there on the second company's BTR. But I didn't know back then it was Suligovka and believed I was going to Dolgen'koye which we were meant to capture.

 

In Suligovka, I found my company. In the afternoon the commander told us we did not accomplish our objective and that the next morning we have to go and assault Dolgen'koye. Many company commanders in the two battalions of the 752th regiment told their fighters that we are being sent to a sure death, since the Ukrainians are well prepared. So they said - decide for yourself if you want to go or not. Four fifths of us (if not more) refused to go. So did I.  In many ways because I simply had no physical energy to keep going into an assault. Yet many volunteers from other companies went into that attack in the morning. Not me. From our company, three people went including the Sr. Lieutenant. He got wounded in his leg. As those who later came back from the assault were telling us - it was 7 kilometers of walking through the fields between Suligovka and Dolgen'koye. They left at 10AM and only by 4PM managed to reach 600 meters from the village. They were exhausted. All this time they marched under heavy mortar and artillery shelling. Dead and wounded started appearing. When we reported to our battalion commander Major Vasyura about dead and wounded, he cussed: 'leave them and keep advancing!!!'.

They said that reconnaissance squad commander who was moving together with our incomplete companies got wounded. He himself told his scouts to keep going forward and support the attack, and to pick him up later. He appointed another senior to them. After all, they picked him up. When they almost reached Dolgen'koye the mortar shelling became very intense. A Ukrainian tank started firing. This resulted in even more dead and wounded. The officers (who were alive and not wounded) did not know what to do. Then, one of the volunteers (he told me that in person; he was 40 years old and for 12 years prior he served on a contract, including in GRU; a combat veteran) said: 'Guys, we need to fall back, otherwise we will be smashed with mortars and those who stay alive will be finished off'. So they retreated. Everyone was exhausted. It was very difficult carrying the wounded. We came back at 11PM. One of the volunteers, Andrey from Kursk who came together with me said that many simply ran off while retreating. He yelled at them to help pull out the wounded, but they didn't help. He said he wanted to grab an assault rifle and start shooting in their backs... Thus, the grenade launcher platoon commander, Captain Nikolaev who was dragged for 4 hours, died from blood loss... I didn't know him personally, but everyone said he was a very good person... So that was an attack on Dolgen'koye on 20 April...

 

After this attack, almost everyone refused to go into another attack the next day... Only a part (11 people from the remnants of two battalions) stayed and were sent to the very frontline, into shrubbery half a kilometer away from Suligovka to help motorised riflemen from Sakhalin who held defence there... It's important to note that, in principle, many of those who refused to attack (myself included) were ready to hold defence under mortar fire, yet we were still told to walk with on our own to Izyum. In fact, they took away our weapons. They took our weapons at the very frontline...

 

I'l also add that due to constant lies we couldn't believe our command anymore. Twice before the attacks we were told that everything was going to be alright, that the enemy artillery was suppressed, that ahead of us other units of ours are already advancing and we just needed to reach them... But each time this turned out to be a lie and ended up with senseless losses for us. We kept wondering why are being sent into these insane assaults?! We thought, perhaps it was to locate the enemy artillery while it was shelling us? Or for the Ukrainians to use up their shell stocks on us? Then we wondered if it was to distract the attention of the Ukrainian army? I don't know. Many had a feeling that we were just deliberately being destroyed. Looking ahead, I’ll say that based on the fact that different units tried to take Dolgen'koye, I think that our command simply had the task of taking Dolgen'koye and simply sent in everyone they could. It got to a point where in early May they started sending only 7 people to attack!! As I understood, other units went to assault Dolgen'koye one or two times before stopping. I think on 1st of May OMON and other special forces (possibly SOBR) went there also. They also failed to take it. They just simply walked around at another area with the remnants of our regiment. It's just that in other units the command took care of the subordinates, while our leadership as I understood didn't care about us. The 45th reconnaissance regiment of the Airborne Forces tried to advance through the forest to Dolgenkoye on April 19 as were going to Suligovka. They didn't make it - there was an intense firefight in the forest, to the right of us. We heard it very well. Airborne had one person killed, retreated and refused to advance on Dolgen'koye. 

 

In Suligovka I stayed for 3 days, then me and another guy from my company (he previously served in 'Vityaz' spetsnaz on a contract), and a guy from another company together left to Izyum on a truck. There we ended up in one location on the outskirts of Izyum where all the so-called '500's, those who refused, were being gathered. 

I got there around 25 April. We were basically used as a workforce - we dug trenches, carried earth bags to reinforce division headquarters, sawed pines for dugouts. Nearly every day they were bringing new 'refusers' to us. Their stories were even more tragic than ours... New volunteers were immediately thrown onto Dolgen'koye upon arrival to Ukraine. There were no more officers so they were picking the most hardened ones among the volunteers (ones who fought in Chechnya and Syria), appointed them as seniors, gave them radios and sent them to assault... At the end of April they brought to us around 18 people who advanced as a large group of 120. They said that apart from them some other unit attacked Dolgen'koye from another direction. Perhaps that is why they reached Dolgen'koye without any mortar shelling. They had 300-400 meters to go when they came under crossfire from two machine guns... Even closer to them were positions of Ukrainian assault riflemen. They started combat. Our guys also had machine guns and RPGs. As I understood they killed at least 6 assault riflemen but had to retreat due to Ukrainian machine guns which they couldn't suppress. Most likely the machine guns were located in well-fortified positions. The guys said that if they had a little help, if the machine guns were suppressed with helicopters or tanks, then they would have entered Dolgen'koye...


When I was still in Suligovka and we went into attacks, they said that motorised riflemen from Klintsy entered Dolgen'koye as one full company on BTR's, but it is said they were sent deliberately as they were fired at from three directions. Yet they still withdrew on their own from the triangular ambush in Dolgen'koye. They said it was even before we came, before 19 April, that 8 tanks and infantry entered Dolgen'koye but decided to keep going rather than taking positions, so the tankmen went forward and almost all of them got hit, and then the infantry was also pushed out... 

 

In May they brought the remnants of 'Bars' (trained reservists from all of Russia) - 14 people. They assaulted Dolgen'koye for a month and remained in the area. As I understand it, they were attached to the leadership of our wicked division. In total, 340 of them arrived to Ukraine. After a month of shelling only 57 remained. Moreover, half of the survivors were at the headquarters. Most of them were wounded. They never had a single firefight, all the losses came from Ukrainian artillery fire... 

 

My opinion is that if it wasn't for the Ukrainian artillery, its power and precision, then our folks would have crushed the Ukrainian army in firefights. It is my opinion.

As for us volunteers, in my opinion we were generally combat-ready and could attack quite well (as far as our skills and knowledge allowed), it's just that after such disgusting and vile attitude from our leadership, many didn't want to stay and fight in this unit... myself included. 

I can understand, command can make mistakes, but when you realise the leadership simply doesn't care about you and you are sent for a sure senseless death, it really discourages you from fighting. 

Another thing - during this whole time, in the whole division, only the officers were receiving state awards. Not a single sergeant or a private received an award. I spoke to five staff contractors from our company. They were very young - 19-22 years old, kind and joyful despite everything. They were taking Kamenka with other units of ours. Of them, eight people entered in their area. They killed 12 Ukrainian fighters in combat. One of the killed was an officer. They found a radio on him. From radio they found Ukrainians were preparing reinforcements in their area - 40 people were meant to help Ukrainians in Kamenka. Our guys figured out where the Ukrainians would be coming from and ambushed them. They killed all 30 people in combat. These guys are 19-21 years old. They are excellent at shooting from everything - RPG-7, 'Mukha', machine guns. They are in many ways still children but fought to the death - with courage and till the end... Why did none of them get any awards?! They also refused attacking Dolgen'koye and later left with us to Russia and broke their contracts. 

Ukrainian army continuously shells our positions with mortars, artillery, Tochka-U's. I have no idea where Ukraine got so many Tochka-U's from. But in Izyum our anti-aircraft was taking down many of them every day. That's what they said. In general, speaking of our division, our anti-aircraft was the best-working, most combat-ready unit, as I understood.

 

Tankmen had huge losses... Our tanks were hit in dozens during attacks and while marching... Just in general we have immense vehicle losses, both BTRs and BMPs, trucks, engineering vehicles... But the most terrifying thing is the amount of people dying every day, are made disabled, and how many are captured...

End of Part 2.

 

 

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Orcs still tying anything they can find to their trucks. I think the cruved piece maybe a screen from a combine, I can’t figure out what the black things are.

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