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4 hours ago, Fico said:

HARMs opening up airspace. Beautiful.

3 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Lot of conversation happening around this post.

Mostly questions of if HARMS, GMLRS, and HIMARS pushed the AA systems 100km plus from the front and RU is afraid to fly in support of troops on the front then what is the combined arms air component/air superiority now? Drone recon?

If they’ve pushed the AA back from the front, and the TB2s and other UAVs/drones are hitting smaller targets (seem focused on artillery) it makes me think that they are pinpointing specific areas they plan on attacking with armor/infantry, and trying to degrade the artillery/armor in those areas.

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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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21 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

IAEA inspectors noticed all the incoming ordnance at ZNPP was aligned with having come from RU occupied territory. RU officer claimed shells turn 180 degrees on impact. RU is so used to owning the narrative they don’t even bother with getting very basic details right in their false flags.

It's pretty striking how these authoritarians just lie about things that are easily disprovable. They're used to state media that will repeat the lies unquestioningly and uncritically. 

I hope we continue to get more nominal news out of the ZNPP though, it's nice to have non-russian sources for what's happening. 

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It's funny to watch GREHorn get his ears justifiably boxed in on his Global Spring thread for being a Russian Apologist, and him white-knuckling trying to be even keeled. Then he fucking runs right here and Putins all over himself. He can't help it. I have to imagine it's like watching someone who's had to piss hardcore for an hour or two finally get to the urinal and let it all out. 

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1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

This here is a good take.  And it's what I would expect.  Ukraine doesn't have unlimited troops and supplies and air superiority (like the Allies did in June of 44).  An offensive has to be calculated and smart, not overextending the resources you have.

There's an element here of disappointing the young bull who wants to run down there and fuck one of those cows, and the old bull saying "son, let's WALK down there and fuck ALL of em."  Patience.  Smart utilization of resources.  You know, two things the Russians haven't done well (have expended ridiculous amounts of resources -- troops and materiel -- to try for big gains, only to have wasted them).

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8 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

this is both a cheerleading thread and an actual information thread.  i hope we don't go too far to the cheerleading side that we scare off people wanting to discuss observations or predictions that may run counter to cheerleading.

This is not the kind of cheerleader we want around here. 

Less this:

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This here is a good take.  And it's what I would expect.  Ukraine doesn't have unlimited troops and supplies and air superiority (like the Allies did in June of 44).  An offensive has to be calculated and smart, not overextending the resources you have.

There's an element here of disappointing the young bull who wants to run down there and fuck one of those cows, and the old bull saying "son, let's WALK down there and fuck ALL of em."  Patience.  Smart utilization of resources.  You know, two things the Russians haven't done well (have expended ridiculous amounts of resources -- troops and materiel -- to try for big gains, only to have wasted them).

Yes, it's a great article and good point.

Seems to be running in parallel with the axiom of not interrupting your enemy when his making a mistake.  And the Russians seem to be making so many they're hard to keep track of.

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While there may not be much news from the front right now, Ukraine is still reporting Russian casualty numbers and there's been a big uptick in the last week. For most of August, the average was 100-200 per day. Since the "counteroffensive" began, here are the numbers: August 29, 350; Aug. 30, 450; Aug. 31, 350, Sept. 1, 450; Sept. 2, 350. Total of 1,950 in 5 days.

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3 minutes ago, texastough said:

While there may not be much news from the front right now, Ukraine is still reporting Russian casualty numbers and there's been a big uptick in the last week. For most of August, the average was 100-200 per day. Since the "counteroffensive" began, here are the numbers: August 29, 350; Aug. 30, 450; Aug. 31, 350, Sept. 1, 450; Sept. 2, 350. Total of 1,950 in 5 days.

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So 50% of our Afghanistan #'s in a week.  That seems......untenable  

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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

 

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So it’s a siege

Bingo.

The UKA doesn't need to destroy them all.  They just need to make holding the position sufficiently uncomfortable and untenable that the Russians abandon it.  I truly think that bombarding the information system with messages of "Russian soldier, why risk your life attacking your brothers when you could surrender, survive, be treated well with hot meals and safe quarters, and when this is all over, maybe even seek asylum in a prosperous country, with washing machines and everything?"

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4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

^ remember the Russians can't be resupplied easily (if at all). 

They are trapped.

Excellent piece.

We ALL want Ukraine to win this war, and win it now.  I'm sure we all wanted to find a way to defeat Japan within a few months of Pearl Harbor, too.  Impatience is natural.  But it's not a great driver for strategy.

Ukraine may want to win this war now.   But much more importantly than that, they want to win it completely, and they want to win it forever.  That means complete defeat of and expulsion of all Russian troops on Ukrainian soil.  That is going to take time.  It will be accomplished by smart, strategic, and methodical phases.  There is no skipping to the end part.  They have to go through the entire process to get there.  Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima had a shitload in between them: Guadalcanal, Midway, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, etc.

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12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Excellent piece.

We ALL want Ukraine to win this war, and win it now.  I'm sure we all wanted to find a way to defeat Japan within a few months of Pearl Harbor, too.  Impatience is natural.  But it's not a great driver for strategy.

Ukraine may want to win this war now.   But much more importantly than that, they want to win it completely, and they want to win it forever.  That means complete defeat of and expulsion of all Russian troops on Ukrainian soil.  That is going to take time.  It will be accomplished by smart, strategic, and methodical phases.  There is no skipping to the end part.  They have to go through the entire process to get there.  Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima had a shitload in between them: Guadalcanal, Midway, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, etc.

Looking forward, I'm thinking everyone on that side of the world is beefing up their eastern borders asap.  Even if Putin gets nixed, we know at some point in the future the Russians are going to put a despot in power and get frisky again.  

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57 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Patience.  Smart utilization of resources.  You know, two things the Russians haven't done well (have expended ridiculous amounts of resources -- troops and materiel -- to try for big gains, only to have wasted them).

23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The UKA doesn't need to destroy them all.  They just need to make holding the position sufficiently uncomfortable and untenable that the Russians abandon it.  I truly think that bombarding the information system with messages of "Russian soldier, why risk your life attacking your brothers when you could surrender, survive, be treated well with hot meals and safe quarters, and when this is all over, maybe even seek asylum in a prosperous country, with washing machines and everything?"

Ukraine can be very patient, and with the Russians around Kherson losing most of their heavy transport capacity and reinforcement because of the bridges being hammered, once they run those Russians out, they can cut fresh water to Crimea.  Once they cut that water, Crimea is in a world of shit.  They lose almost all of their agricultural production, and will lose 100% of their freshwater, which means a shit-ton of transportation/logistics have to bring more food and all of the water in over the Kerch bridge.

When Ukraine rolls up Kherson, and cuts the water, Crimea is on a bit of a timer for shit to go down.  I assume that all Russian “citizens” will be evacuated, rather than trying to keep them supplied with water and food.

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15 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Looking forward, I'm thinking everyone on that side of the world is beefing up their eastern borders asap.  Even if Putin gets nixed, we know at some point in the future the Russians are going to put a despot in power and get frisky again.  

Yep.  In the bigger picture here, there is a HUGE and lasting lesson here being learned by a lot of folks (I'm looking at you, Germany) -- don't trust Russia or put your fate in Russia's hands.  Ever.  Never ever.

Eventually, you can still do business with Russia, but you would be criminally stupid to have that business be anything that you can't afford to have go "poof" in an instant.

Russia had a chance to prove that it could be a viable and trustworthy member of the community of nations.  It has proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that it is not, and cannot be, such a nation.  Russia has chosen the path of being a forever backwards backwater that just happens to have a lot of petroleum.  But lots of places have petroleum.  Smarter and safer to get LNG from Texas and Qatar than depending on Russia.

Putin isn't setting back Russia 30 years.  He's working on setting them back nearly a century.

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1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

this is both a cheerleading thread and an actual information thread.  i hope we don't go too far to the cheerleading side that we scare off people wanting to discuss observations or predictions that may run counter to cheerleading.

That’s fair and we should be reminded of that every so often but UKA literally said media blackout so not seeing the logic in giving credence to anyone saying “but if it was good news we’d hear!” 

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17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  In the bigger picture here, there is a HUGE and lasting lesson here being learned by a lot of folks (I'm looking at you, Germany) -- don't trust Russia or put your fate in Russia's hands.  Ever.  Never ever.

Eventually, you can still do business with Russia, but you would be criminally stupid to have that business be anything that you can't afford to have go "poof" in an instant.

They did this to themselves.  They've been protesting talks about nuclear energy for decades now and interest group such as the SPD and Green Party facilitated a switch away from conventional energy production.  They painted themselves into a corner and now are firing up old coal plants to try and make it through winter.  Ironically, their last nuke plant was scheduled to be phased out at the end of this year.

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6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They did this to themselves.  They've been protesting talks about nuclear energy for decades now and interest group such as the SPD and Green Party facilitated a switch away from conventional energy production.  They painted themselves into a corner and now are firing up old coal plants to try and make it through winter.  Ironically, their last nuke plant was scheduled to be phased out at the end of this year.

They should make a new deal with the inevitable post-Putin Russia to stick their nuclear waste there. 

 

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7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They did this to themselves.  They've been protesting talks about nuclear energy for decades now and interest group such as the SPD and Green Party facilitated a switch away from conventional energy production.  They painted themselves into a corner and now are firing up old coal plants to try and make it through winter.  Ironically, their last nuke plant was scheduled to be phased out at the end of this year.

Oh, they absolutely did this to themselves, especially Germany.  The 1-2 punch of 1) we'll depend on Russian gas for everything, and 2) we'll get rid of nuclear generation because we have a strident, reflexive, and irrational hatred of all things nuclear was dumb as shit.  When your plans all boil down to "hey, we'll always have cheap Russian gas," your plans are stupid.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  In the bigger picture here, there is a HUGE and lasting lesson here being learned by a lot of folks (I'm looking at you, Germany) -- don't trust Russia or put your fate in Russia's hands.  Ever.  Never ever.

Eventually, you can still do business with Russia, but you would be criminally stupid to have that business be anything that you can't afford to have go "poof" in an instant.

Russia had a chance to prove that it could be a viable and trustworthy member of the community of nations.  It has proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that it is not, and cannot be, such a nation.  Russia has chosen the path of being a forever backwards backwater that just happens to have a lot of petroleum.  But lots of places have petroleum.  Smarter and safer to get LNG from Texas and Qatar than depending on Russia.

Putin isn't setting back Russia 30 years.  He's working on setting them back nearly a century.

So what would be on the list of exports that meet that criteria?

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