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[Scheiss Meister 8410]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

they're going to need more bullets.

I've got friends and acquaintances who claim to have thousands of rounds of 5.56 NATO and 7.62 x 39.  The US could probably supply a year's worth of ammo for Ukraine just from private collections.

[Sawbonz 27583]

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

They may well do something breathtakingly stupid, like put them onto potato trucks and ship them to a large field outside Moscow, piecemeal.  Where they will have no real place to live (maybe 20 men per leaky tent), no bathroom facilities, substandard food, insufficient winter clothing and heat (it's going to get cold there, and right soon).  If you wanted to put together a recipe for a mutiny, the Russians are hastily gathering the very best ingredients.

A large poorly fed, poorly housed yet armed, press-ganged mob just outside of Moscow? What could possibly go wrong?

[Bateshorn 9929]

15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

They are going to put them in uniforms, give them rifles, and send them all straight to the front lines. 

They will do this until they either win in Ukraine or all of their troops are dead.

Might be time to see if we have any M42 Dusters laying around to deal with massed charges.

[Brisketexan 105260]

9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Lol imagine what kind of physical condition your typical 50 yo Russian male is in

Whoa whoa whoa, let's not going throwing stones about the fitness of 50-something males, okay?

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

9 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Dead?

only their livers. 

[Armybrat 40872]

11 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I've got friends and acquaintances who claim to have thousands of rounds of 5.56 NATO and 7.62 x 39.  The US could probably supply a year's worth of ammo for Ukraine just from private collections.

I know nothing.

[The Dog 44118]

 

[SydneyCarton 48149]

24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Giving an untrained and pissed off conscript a rifle, no winter clothing, shitty food, and stuffing him in a train car and sending him to die with hundreds of his compatriots.....ALSO an excellent recipe for mutiny, except at the actual front lines.

Do that to me and my buddies?  We'd discuss it for a few minutes, shoot dead the officers trying to force us to go die, radio back to HQ and tell them the UKA is overrunning our position, they already killed officers Yuri and Gregor!.....and promptly surrender to the nearest UKA troops I can find.  Spend the next several months safe and warm at a UKA POW facility, not getting blown up by HIMARS and shit, and eating actual food.

While this is a fair point, also keep in mind your viewpoint comes from that of a man who grew up in the relative freedom of America, with a free press, and where individual thought and ideas are rewarded. Hell, at your age, you were probably taught and encouraged to develop free-thinking concepts. It's hard to imagine that many Russians, particularly the older ones, having this kind of widespread mentality because they've been raised on propaganda in lieu of education. 

12 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I've got friends and acquaintances who claim to have thousands of rounds of 5.56 NATO and 7.62 x 39.  The US could probably supply a year's worth of ammo for Ukraine just from private collections.

The government coming for the bullets of individual citizens? Yeah, that would go over REAL well. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

5 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

I know nothing.

I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident. 

[Brisketexan 105260]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

While this is a fair point, also keep in mind your viewpoint comes from that of a man who grew up in the relative freedom of America, with a free press, and where individual thought and ideas are rewarded. Hell, at your age, you were probably taught and encouraged to develop free-thinking concepts. It's hard to imagine that many Russians, particularly the older ones, having this kind of widespread mentality because they've been raised on propaganda in lieu of education. 

Agreed.  That's why I think the motivation for mutiny isn't like ours would be -- "wait, you took me away from my cushy life and job, costing my family a fortune, and are making me risk my life in a stupid war I don't support?"  It's going to be more elemental than that: "I was safe, had a roof over my head, and had food to eat.  I let you pursue your stupid war and I didn't get in your way.  But now I'm being shot at, having artillery explode all around me, I'm freezing cold because the winter kit you gave me was a leftover Members Only jacket from storage, and the only food I get is what I can loot from the locals and you bastards already looted all the good stuff.  So I'm freezing, hungry, and will be killed any minute now.  Fuck this shit, I'm out."

[Sawbonz 27583]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Whoa whoa whoa, let's not going throwing stones about the fitness of 50-something males, okay?

 

As a 50 something male I try not to pick up any stones much less throw them. 

[Steel Shank 9430]

…and eating actual food.

Like breakfast tacos?

[hookemATL 11834]

18 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Might be time to see if we have any M42 Dusters laying around to deal with massed charges.

Deer season coming up. Where can I get one of these???

[atomheartbevo 89777]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Whoa whoa whoa, let's not going throwing stones about the fitness of 50-something males, okay?

Malcolm Nance has over a decade on me, and it’s fucking embarrassing that a 60-something is in better shape than me, and running around fighting in Ukraine.  

[Brisketexan 105260]

7 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Also....tough fucking shit.  This is what you wanted, Russian people.  You've supported this shit for decades.  You support this war.  You are the Republic of FAFO.  Now you FO.  Want it to be different?  Then fucking do something about it, you servile fucks.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Brisketexan

[Brisketexan 105260]

1 minute ago, Steel Shank said:

 

Like breakfast tacos?

 

You know my family has a vested interest in a global "peace through breakfast tacos" initiative, with an eastern european focus.  I am 100% confident that we could coax half the Russian military to surrender to the temptation of a warm bacon egg and cheese taco.

[DigglerontheHoof 21212]

22 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Dead?

at the very least: pickled

[SydneyCarton 48149]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Malcolm Nance has over a decade on me, and it’s fucking embarrassing that a 60-something is in better shape than me, and running around fighting in Ukraine.  

To be fair, he had a lifetime of military service and in many ways, dude has probably been spoiling for this for awhile. And he's definitely in better shape than most Russian 30 year olds. 

[Brisketexan 105260]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

To be fair, he had a lifetime of military service and in many ways, dude has probably been spoiling for this for awhile. And he's definitely in better shape than most Russian 30 year olds. 

The mere fact that his blood type isn't "vodka" puts him well ahead of that crowd.

[DaggerHorns 3085]

11 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident. 

You’ll have the EPA at your doorstep shortly.

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You know my family has a vested interest in a global "peace through breakfast tacos" initiative, with an eastern european focus.  I am 100% confident that we could coax half the Russian military to surrender to the temptation of a warm bacon egg and cheese taco.

just figure out a way to waft the smell of cooking bacon across the front lines and announce over a PA system that anyone that surrenders will be fed, clothed, and sheltered. 

[Scheiss Meister 8410]

26 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

While this is a fair point, also keep in mind your viewpoint comes from that of a man who grew up in the relative freedom of America, with a free press, and where individual thought and ideas are rewarded. Hell, at your age, you were probably taught and encouraged to develop free-thinking concepts. It's hard to imagine that many Russians, particularly the older ones, having this kind of widespread mentality because they've been raised on propaganda in lieu of education. 

The government coming for the bullets of individual citizens? Yeah, that would go over REAL well. 

I was thinking of appealing for donations, not government collection, but you raise an excellent point.  I won't CR it with the rest of my thought.

[Gatorubet 30286]

11 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

just figure out a way to waft the smell of cooking bacon across the front lines and announce over a PA system that anyone that surrenders will be fed, clothed, and sheltered. 

I love my Country. But I might surrender for bacon, if I am completely honest. 

[YGIFS 19452]

32 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident. 

Over 'Macho Grande'?  

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Over 'Macho Grande'?  

you never get over Macho Grande 

[The Dog 44118]

 

[Schulz2.0 29006]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Lol imagine what kind of physical condition your typical 50 yo Russian male is in

Insert picture of @Spankytoes hungover FIL here.

[YGIFS 19452]

Horshack voice........"Oh, oh, oh...won't somebody please come along and explain to us how Russia's military prowess in WWII was just as dominating as the U.S, Germany, and Great Britain?"  

Give me 50 million adult males with a tacit understanding of a 50% fatality rate...and I'll win you whatever massive chunk of land you please.  It's not a nation, it's a meat-grinder.  I feel kinda bad they're being rounded up and sent off like that, but they can do the honorable thing and take out their C.O. on the way to the front.

[Parliament 14283]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

There are already a ton of reports that they're grabbing a ton of people out of the rural and ethnic regions. No military experience required.

Are they recruiting College Station?

[Trey3216 15352]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Are they recruiting College Station?

They going to fight in Yemen?  

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Lavrov lying his ass off.  Full session below

 

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17741]

1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

Might be time to see if we have any M42 Dusters laying around to deal with massed charges.

I'll bet there are still a few of these lingering around National Guard motor pools.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I like that y'all start seeing this as a mass Enemy at the Gatesing. Under-supported infantry with no strategic deployment. All they have to figure out is how to get those guys up to the front.  They'll be armed with either (1) the worst and most ineffective weapons on earth or (2) nukes.  If it is 1, we're going to start seeing death tolls skyrocket.  

[Chad Fuck 17741]

1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I like that y'all start seeing this as a mass Enemy at the Gatesing. Under-supported infantry with no strategic deployment. All they have to figure out is how to get those guys up to the front.  They'll be armed with either (1) the worst and most ineffective weapons on earth or (2) nukes.  If it is 1, we're going to start seeing death tolls skyrocket.  

It's gonna be 1.  The goal here is attrition of AFU soliders/arty tubes/ammo with overwhelming Russian meat.

It's going to be a blood bath.  

The only problem for the Russians is its 2022, not 1942.  They gonna lose.  

[NeverMarryAStripper 21920]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

they're going to need more bullets. vodka

 

[Ghost of LL 15539]

It's good to see Russia doing something to address their demography crisis.

[utee94 15852]

6 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It's good to see Russia doing something to address their demography crisis.

Yes, solving the problem by self-extermination might not be the optimal choice, but it will still be effective.

 

[The Dog 44118]

 

[YGIFS 19452]

Yeah, the "Russian Replacement/We Will not be Replaced!" movement is taking a curious gambit by sending untrained men from the 3 Eastern Federal Districts (Far Eastern, Ural, and Siberian) to the Ukraine Front.  It's one way to make sure the whitest Russians from the West are left standing, but seems like a really roundabout way to do it.  

[Brisketexan 105260]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

 

Yep.  Battleship Potemkin etc.

And the only outcome I can see here is Russia just sending undertrained and underequipped troops into a meat grinder.  RUS may actually be handing Ukraine a PR coup.  Russia sends old men into meatgrinder, they are slaughtered.  Ukraine releases images of stacks of Russian bodies in the field, underequipped and killed out in the open because they have shit for training.  And Ukraine issues public statements BEGGING Russia to stop doing this.  "We do not want to keep killing your sons, your fathers, your grandfathers.  Please tell your leader to stop sending them to slaughter.  We want them to stay home with you, take care of their families, and live long and happy lives.  We don't want to see this scene again -- it is only happening because Putin is sending them to die for no reason, for his invasion and his ego.  Please, make Putin stop murdering the men you love!"  Shit like that.

Saturate everything you can with that.

[Schulz2.0 29006]

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

42 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

It's gonna be 1.  The goal here is attrition of AFU soliders/arty tubes/ammo with overwhelming Russian meat.

It's going to be a blood bath.  

The only problem for the Russians is its 2022, not 1942.  They gonna lose.  

This time they're on the wrong end of Lend-Lease. 

[Laxtonto 12090]

8 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It's good to see Russia doing something to address their demography crisis.

 

1 minute ago, utee94 said:

Yes, solving the problem by self-extermination might not be the optimal choice, but it will still be effective.

 

This entire series of logic may be scarier longterm geopolitically than the current status quo. 

If Russia continues down this path and fails, they have not only weakened themselves economically and militarily in the worlds eye, but now have hastened the issues with their population decline all in one fell swoop.

That means major political instability and most likely the splitting of Russia into the various warring states with rogue nukes everywhere. 
 

The flip side is that Russia wins or ends in a stalemate, then they will have gained territory and population, but the key 18-45 working male class will be missing in that acquisition. It is not like the Ukraine is going to stop fighting and so now they will have increased their territory and population, but might have made it even worse than before from population growth standpoint.
 

When you fight a war of acquisition to the point that you have exhausted both your and your opponents men of fighting age, who is left to rebuild? Who is going to farm the grain or mine the raw materials and drill the wells? 
 

From a geopolitical standpoint, if RU could have pulled off the 3 day version of the war, they would have solved many of their longer term issues with the population. Now, with the mobilization and impending meat grinder, any outcome that involves continued longterm fighting is most likely going to lead to regime change, either short term via revolution/assignation or longer term through population decline, famine and internal strife.
 

This is like feeling like you are pot committed to a bad hand preflop and are now throwing in more hoping to get lucky on the river instead of cutting your losses and folding while you can.

[Schulz2.0 29006]

 

[Trey3216 15352]

53 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

It's gonna be 1.  The goal here is attrition of AFU soliders/arty tubes/ammo with overwhelming Russian meat.

It's going to be a blood bath.  

The only problem for the Russians is its 2022, not 1942.  They gonna lose.  

It’s seriously starting to read like an aggy school newspaper recap of a football game…

”the boys fought with (aggy) pride and it was tied up at half.  And even though the boys did not prevail, they fought tough and full of aggy pride until the clock ran out on them.” 
 

Final Score 42-14 

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