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1 hour ago, Hawndoh said:

It is kind of dumb that so many articles nit pick what is and is not allowed by Russian law with regards to their army. It's pretty clear they don't care about laws of any kind and will just do whatever they want anyway.

 

It’s a serious brake and impediment, believe it or not.  Many authoritarian regimes, but especially Russia, are performatively nitpicky about legal minutiae in a way that Westerners and Americans especially don’t get. (Try scratching out a mistake in an official form and then handing it in). And that goes to the exercise of state authority as well. It has to do with a conception of “rule of law” that is a funhouse mirror of ours. Rule of law is not a brake on the exercise of state power or the idea that powerful and non powerful are equal.  The law literally rules— it is an implement to control the population. And as such, every exercise of state power must be dressed up in legal clothing. 
 

In practice, the law is written in a way where the state (not a citizen) may find a legal way to do almost anything. And if it’s not, then they will do it and pretend they’re following the law.  But that way still has to be found or made up and usually it’s the path of least resistance at the operational level to at least make an effort to pretend to work within the parameters of the written law. 
 

A good example of this is the infamous troikas of the Great Terror and kulak operations.  Every single shooting and execution was signed off on by a triumvirate of party and secret police officials complete with sham investigations and fact finding and judgments of guilt or innocence.  Stalin had to abandon public trials, even show trials, for these mass killings but even he couldn’t just shoot people arbitrarily. There had to be the legal and administrative window dressing. 

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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It’s a serious brake and impediment, believe it or not.  Many authoritarian regimes, but especially Russia, are performatively nitpicky about legal minutiae in a way that Westerners and Americans especially don’t get. (Try scratching out a mistake in an official form and then handing it in). And that goes to the exercise of state authority as well. It has to do with a conception of “rule of law” that is a funhouse mirror of ours. Rule of law is not a brake on the exercise of state power or the idea that powerful and non powerful are equal.  The law literally rules— it is an implement to control the population. And as such, every exercise of state power must be dressed up in legal clothing. 
 

In practice, the law is written in a way where the state (not a citizen) may find a legal way to do almost anything. And if it’s not, then they will do it and pretend they’re following the law.  But that way still has to be found or made up and usually it’s the path of least resistance at the operational level to at least make an effort to pretend to work within the parameters of the written law. 
 

A good example of this is the infamous troikas of the Great Terror and kulak operations.  Every single shooting and execution was signed off on by a triumvirate of party and secret police officials complete with sham investigations and fact finding and judgments of guilt or innocence.  Stalin had to abandon public trials, even show trials, for these mass killings but even he couldn’t just shoot people arbitrarily. There had to be the legal and administrative window dressing. 

The Khmer Rouge was the same. While they beat confessions out of people at Tol Seng, and meticulously documented everything, you absolutely could not actually kill people at the prison itself, only in the killing fields.  One of the torturer accidentally killed a prisoner on site, was immediately arrested, tortured to confession, then taken out to the killing fields and executed. 
 

It’s definitely an interesting quirk of the authoritarian/genocide oeuvre.

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37 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

If I were them I don't think it'd be on me to keep pointing out their mistake.

Except that they weren't being fed or housed, I agree.  Of course, the first opportunity that arises, I'm heading for the hills if they tell me that I don't exist and can't join a unit.

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1 hour ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Except that they weren't being fed or housed, I agree.  Of course, the first opportunity that arises, I'm heading for the hills if they tell me that I don't exist and can't join a unit.

I thought about that, but they won't be fed or housed if they get sent to Ukraine either. I figure if I got mobilized, I am already some broke-ass dude from Russia who's spent his life eating and staying warm on almost no money, so I can do it again.

Maybe get a big fat girlfriend with a potato farm and a vodka still.

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Why is Schlumberger still operating in Russia, and why did they turn over around 900 draft notices to their employees, and why didn’t they enable remote work for as many as possible so they could get out of the country. And why didn’t they try and at least bribe the Russian government to prevent that.  They work in oil and gas, they know how to bribe.

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Why is Schlumberger still operating in Russia, and why did they turn over around 900 draft notices to their employees, and why didn’t they enable remote work for as many as possible so they could get out of the country. And why did they try and at least bribe the Russian government to prevent that.

 

because it's a piece of shit company

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Well, it's just a nick in the corner. The other 99% can still save you.

 

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