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10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Re; that conscript who killed all those soldiers.  It can't be emphasized enough how bad the hazing is in the Russian military.  Everyone, even officers, beats the Hell out of their underlings.  Guys get their teeth knocked out and jaws broke.  Maybe this guy got tired of it.

Instead of “Band of Brothers” you get “Bandits Who Beat You and Steal Your Stuff”.    

It’s amazing that the second option results in a dysfunctional military lacking any cohesion or esprit de corps.

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[UpperWestside 6193]

The summation of this war so far is that Russia has continually messed around, kept a good chunk of what they found out from Putin and then went back for more messing around which is leading to even more devastating versions of finding out. Their military is the Yakety Sax song in human form.

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7 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

The summation of this war so far is that Russia has continually messed around, kept a good chunk of what they found out from Putin and then went back for more messing around which is leading to even more devastating versions of finding out. Their military is the Yakety Sax song in human form.

You left out the part about Putin playing 6D checkers.  

And the more deaths among the recently mobilized we have, the more crazy videos of them grabbing people off the street we will see.  And we will probably see more resistance.

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hahaha amazing !!!

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9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

Ukes upon hearing that:

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2 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

What is the most shocking isn't the mobilization, but with it being a forced mobilization we are seeing the recruiting officers essentially having to scrounge to find people to try to bring in.

Look, we are seeing reports that they are looking for between 300k and 1M in total. This is in a country with a population of around 135M.

How are they having that hard of a time to find possible conscripts, especially if they are not really following the lists but grabbing who they can off the street? This led me to do some demographic digging and the 20-55 age group is only about 30M. 

Of this slice, how many are already in the military (dead or alive), how many are in an essential job or a protected class, and how many have fled the country?

The fact that the conscription office is having difficulties in major metro areas to drag in what would be 1 to 3% of a target population tells me either all of those eligible have fled the metro areas, the conscription quotas are all over the place or the conscript number is WAY larger than the reported number.

 

Not too mention that is it tough to disappear? Whether actually disappearing or just paying someone to claim they couldn’t find you?

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22 hours ago, MillerEP said:

^👀

Where self defence!?

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32 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

 

Ukes upon hearing that:

 

that looks like a civil war era camp

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47 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

hahaha amazing !!!

Even the tanks are alcoholics in Russia.

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39 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Q: “What color is the nail polish?”

A: ”Russian Blood”

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Looks more like an M270/MLRS (look at the loading arms, HIMARS has a single pod, M270 double), but sure seems like an ATACMS.

 

 

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Obviously rooting for this guy but also all of his fellow troops

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* losing

 

 

 

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[cactusflinthead 27609]

While Russia is sending people that might be able to train conscripts to die, Norway is hiring.

Edit: sentence structure wonky. No fix

Edited October 16, 2022 by cactusflinthead

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[Post Oak 20312]

60 minutes and Scott Pelley talking to Ukrainians in Bucha. They spoke to victims loved ones and the men who did their best to give them a respectful burial. Terrible, heart breaking photos and interviews. 

It's as tear jerking and rage-inducing as you can imagine.

These types of stories are where 60minutes excel.

Fuck Russia 

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A man shows Pelley pics of his young son.  "What was he killed for? Why did he have to die?  How can I live without him? I'll never hug him again". 

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^just out having a stroll

 

[Scheiss Meister 8416]

So the Rooskies say that they are killing 13 Ukrainian soldiers for every two rushists killed, but they are evacuating Kherson oblast east of the Dnipro.  That doesn't add up.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/failure-to-control-ukraines-skies-betrays-key-flaw-in-russias-war-strategy-11665915386

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Failure to Control Ukraine’s Skies Betrays Key Flaw in Russia’s War Strategy
Without air supremacy, Moscow can’t stop Kyiv’s offensive or target precisely, relying on drones and VYACHESLAV MADIYEVSKYI/UKRINFORM/ZUMA PRESS
By Daniel MichaelsFollow
Oct. 16, 2022 6:16 am ET

Russia’s struggling invasion of Ukraine has faced problems from poor coordination to unmotivated soldiers, but overshadowing and aggravating all was a critical blunder in the war’s early days, say Western military officials: failure to win control of Ukraine’s skies.

Without air superiority, Russia has been unable to stop Ukrainian attacks on its soldiers with U.S.-supplied M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or Himars, and other weapons. Kyiv’s forces have capitalized on Russia’s limited ability to respond by retaking hundreds of square miles of territory from the invading army since early last month.

Russia has recently reacted to Ukraine’s battlefield successes by unleashing deadly attacks on civilian targets using missiles and drones. But even those strikes betray weakness in Moscow’s air strategy, Western military analysts say, because it must rely on remote aircraft rather than piloted planes, out of fear they will be shot down.

“Failure to achieve air supremacy is one of the decisive things that cost Russia their advantage in the war,” said Jakub Janovsky, a military analyst with Oryx, an open-source intelligence consulting firm that has tracked equipment losses throughout the war.

Russia’s Defense Ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment on its air war in Ukraine.

When Russia launched its large-scale invasion on Feb. 24, military experts on both sides of the fight assumed Moscow would target Ukraine’s air defenses and quickly work to eliminate them before pushing further. That was the approach U.S. forces took in both Gulf wars and Libya because it helps to protect attacking aircrews and ground or naval forces the aircraft support.

But after Russia achieved some initial successes hitting Ukraine’s antiaircraft systems and disrupting its communications backbone, Kyiv regrouped and managed to thwart Russian air attacks. By early March, Ukraine was shooting down growing numbers of Russian planes and helicopters. Ukraine’s air force, despite early losses, kept flying and engaged Moscow’s pilots in dog fights.

By spring, Russian warplanes were staying in Russian airspace or over parts of Ukraine firmly under Moscow’s control. Russian bombers were launching cruise missiles from behind the protection of Moscow’s air-defense systems. Russian military helicopters in Ukraine moved increasingly cautiously.

As a result of that air force hesitation, Russian ground troops that might have relied on their planes and helicopters to provide covering fire instead sat exposed to attacks from Ukrainian aircraft, drones and artillery.

Ukraine’s ability to protect its air defenses in the war’s opening weeks ranks alongside the defense of Kyiv, the capital, in accomplishments that allowed its government and military to retain control over most of the country despite relentless Russian attacks, say analysts.

“The Ukrainians are in a far stronger position than they would be if the Russians had achieved air supremacy,” said Douglas Barrie, a senior fellow for military airspace at the International Institute of Strategic Studies, a think tank in London.

Unlike Ukraine’s fight against Russian ground forces, which from the start was aided enormously by donated Western weapons, its air defense has relied largely on Soviet-era systems that Ukraine has maintained and improved over three decades. In many ways, Russia’s failure to disable the systems is more notable because Moscow uses the same equipment, including S-300 long-range surface-to-air missiles, or SAMs, plus smaller and highly mobile Buk and Tor launchers, analysts say.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine had a particularly large number of the systems and still has a high ratio of systems to territory compared with standards of countries in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, said Mykola Bielieskov, a research fellow at Ukraine’s National Institute for Strategic Studies, a government think tank.

Mr. Bielieskov said Ukraine was able to preserve its air defenses and part of its air force by moving planes and defensive systems from their normal locations and dispersing them. He credited U.S. intelligence before the war with providing Ukraine enough warning to protect its equipment. Intelligence early in the invasion on the timing and direction of attacks also helped Ukraine position equipment where it could help most, he said.

“Russia bombed airfields and SAM radars, but the strikes weren’t successful,” Mr. Bielieskov said.

The Kremlin initially hoped to gain control of Ukraine within about three days, expecting a groundswell of support after toppling the government, and so might have limited its opening attacks, said Mr. Barrie.

“At the beginning, it was almost as if they didn’t want to break too much because they wanted the country to run smoothly” after their expected takeover, Mr. Barrie said. Russian forces also don’t appear to have launched follow-up attacks on missile batteries, radar installations or command-and-control centers to ensure they had been disabled—a standard practice among NATO members, he said.

Further helping Ukraine was Russian air forces’ lack of practice in complex suppression of air defenses, said Mr. Bielieskov. Such maneuvers require careful coordination of electronic-warfare assets with attack aircraft and missile strikes.

By mid-May, Russian losses in Ukraine had fallen to fewer than 10 planes and helicopters a week, compared with more than 60 a week in early March, according to Oryx data. Since Ukraine launched its offensive in the east and south last month, which quickly retook thousands of square miles of territory and inflicted heavy losses on Russian ground troops, its losses of piloted aircraft have risen slightly.

“The losses indicate the air force is being used as a fire brigade when local forces are in trouble,” said Mr. Janovsky.

Kyiv last week said it had downed four Russian helicopters within 18 minutes. The report wasn’t independently verified.

What do setbacks on the battlefield in Ukraine reveal about the Russian military? Join the conversation below.

Ukraine, which has far fewer aircraft than Russia, also flies cautiously and has suffered losses. But its support from local populations, extensive use of drones and access to the U.S. intelligence have helped it offset its lack of air superiority. Additionally, Russian forces in Ukraine have limited ability to shoot down Ukrainian aircraft, which gives them more leeway to operate. Ukrainian planes have recently been attacking Russian air defenses in territory Moscow controls.

Now Moscow has replaced piloted planes with missiles and drones—including large numbers supplied by Iran—for strikes deep into Ukraine. Many have targeted civilian infrastructure such as power plants. A lot of the strikes are poorly targeted, resulting in widespread death and injuries.

In response, NATO members on Wednesday pledged to give Kyiv additional modern air-defense units and to create a comprehensive air-defense network. While that complex technical work will take time, it could give Ukraine one of Europe’s most advanced defenses against airstrikes of all kinds, military officials say.

 

[Parliament 14357]

Dunno maybe they're lying?

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Bakhmut

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2 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

So the Rooskies say that they are killing 13 Ukrainian soldiers for every two rushists killed, but they are evacuating Kherson oblast east of the Dnipro.  That doesn't add up.

Not everybody claiming this - Prigozhyn admitting the Ukrainians are doing well. Lots of stuff like this contributing to this - friction between regular troops and Wagner, Wagner/Russian troops and LPR/DPR, etc.

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32 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

60 minutes and Scott Pelley talking to Ukrainians in Bucha. They spoke to victims loved ones and the men who did their best to give them a respectful burial. Terrible, heart breaking photos and interviews. 

It's as tear jerking and rage-inducing as you can imagine.

These types of stories are where 60minutes excel.

Fuck Russia 

They do much, much better when they focus on non-political issues.

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Why hasn't Russia been able to gain air superiority? I always thought they had a pretty big air force.

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[Shaddie 1656]

4 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Why hasn't Russia been able to gain air superiority? I always thought they had a pretty big air force.

Those oligarchs yachts don’t build themselves 

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3 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Why hasn't Russia been able to gain air superiority? I always thought they had a pretty big air force.

Because they lied about that too…Big Air Force on Russian paper is about a 1/10 as much as maybe as they claimed.  It hasn’t helped that Ukraine has shot a bunch down either😂

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Why hasn't Russia been able to gain air superiority? I always thought they had a pretty big air force.

We thought they had an effective army too.

New shit has come to light man.

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As somebody who was in artillery, I can only imagine that this is because their soldiers had been working in the Russian version of 7-11 or maybe had a job in a cubicle farm a few weeks ago and had never had their hands on a howitzer until last week, or thought a range card was something to track golf scores on.

Also, never had an officer offer to buy me anal beads, but then again, I wasn’t in the Air Force.

@RDCanecutter you might appreciate this

I’m imagining their range cards look like this