Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[Neonmoon 38129]

This is pretty cool.

 

[Kel Varnsen 8459]

If man is good at one thing, it's creating machines to destroy each other.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Once we push them over the right bank, how do we take the left? Surely Russia is capable of holding off shitty pontoons right?

[MillerEP 30454]

They swing down from Zaporizhzhia.

[InkaUtexas 25909]

Or hold them on that side of the river and rest up. Let the UA troops being trained get ready. Prepare for spring. Make it hell on them with the new systems coming in.

Meanwhile let the conditions in the Russian Army continue to fall apart. Take and hold. Winter is coming but it will be muddy first.

Don't push over just to push over. Stabilize and hold. Rest, retrofit and rebuild. NATO keep the supply chain going. 

Plus Russia is going to continue to hammer infrastructure. This will create new problems over the winter. Let the UA and allies focus on that. 

And keep up the propaganda war. The more information that can be pumped into Russia the better. 

Edited November 6, 2022 by InkaUtexas

[MillerEP 30454]

Yeah, I honestly don't see Ukraine pausing during the winter. I see the offensives continuing but at a slower pace.

[InkaUtexas 25909]

1 minute ago, MillerEP said:

Yeah, I honestly don't see Ukraine pausing during the winter. I see the offensives continuing but at a slower pace.

Weather might make them. I can see small pushes in the NE, maybe towards Crimea, but not on this front. They have to be able to rotate their artillery and it also needs maintenance. 

[MillerEP 30454]

They have a slight advantage. They're much closer to their supply lines and have better equipment and intelligence. They're also more motivated to push the Russians out than they are to let the Russians consolidate their gains. The longer they rest and wait, the longer Russia has to also rest, train these 300,000, re-outfit, re-arm, and undermine Western support.

Winter will SUUUUCK for both parties, especially anyone sitting in a trench, so I don't see either side dragging that out any longer than they have to.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21899]

Unfortunately, I don’t think the political situation in the US will allow for much of a pause for them

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[Parliament 14255]

38 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Or hold them on that side of the river and rest up. Let the UA troops being trained get ready. Prepare for spring. Make it hell on them with the new systems coming in.

Meanwhile let the conditions in the Russian Army continue to fall apart. Take and hold. Winter is coming but it will be muddy first.

Don't push over just to push over. Stabilize and hold. Rest, retrofit and rebuild. NATO keep the supply chain going. 

Plus Russia is going to continue to hammer infrastructure. This will create new problems over the winter. Let the UA and allies focus on that. 

And keep up the propaganda war. The more information that can be pumped into Russia the better. 

And make it rain HIMAR rockets all winter.

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

^All this makes me think that Kherson City is a massive trap. As soon as the Ukrainians enter the city, I imagine they'll start leveling the place. 

[Macanudo 12976]

29 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

They have a slight advantage. They're much closer to their supply lines and have better equipment and intelligence. They're also more motivated to push the Russians out than they are to let the Russians consolidate their gains. The longer they rest and wait, the longer Russia has to also rest, train these 300,000, re-outfit, re-arm, and undermine Western support.

Winter will SUUUUCK for both parties, especially anyone sitting in a trench, so I don't see either side dragging that out any longer than they have to.

The people making decisions aren't stuck in a trench.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[InkaUtexas 25909]

23 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Coup in Belarus. Their army is watching, and probably want nothing to do with this. Lukashenko is the aggy of the former USSR. 

[UpperWestside 6163]

6 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

Ukraine fatigue?!?! He’s supposed to go speak to the cretin forcibly relocating Ukrainians to Russia? The same person that started an illegal war based on lies and falsehoods galore? The guy whose army tortured and killed thousands of Ukrainian civilians? 
 

If we have allies in the west who are fatigued by supporting a country that was forced to fight for its very survival then they need to be given a mess around and find out ultimatum. When things cost too much money you start to see the true nature of human beings. This is shameful that we are even telling him he needs to sit down with this tyrant.

[Post Oak 20210]

Americans are too stupid to realize that this is the absolute best case scenario for bleeding Russia without breaking a sweat.

[YGIFS 19450]

If you could go back in time and tell any American of any political stripe from 1945-1991 that one day we'd be capable of toppling Russia for less than 2% of our annual budget without firing a round ourselves...and then followed it up with, "But we decided it wasn't worth it"...they'd punch you in the dick.

[atomheartbevo 89649]

34 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

If you could go back in time and tell any American of any political stripe from 1945-1991 that one day we'd be capable of toppling Russia for less than 2% of our annual budget without firing a round ourselves...and then followed it up with, "But we decided it wasn't worth it"...they'd punch you in the dick.

And if you cold go back in time and tell them that a lot of NATO’ equipment that was designed and even built during the Cold War is kicking the living shit out of Russia’s “modern” equipment here in 2022…this would be their response.

[Nivek 16923]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

If you could go back in time and tell any American of any political stripe from 1945-1991 that one day we'd be capable of toppling Russia for less than 2% of our annual budget without firing a round ourselves...and then followed it up with, "But we decided it wasn't worth it"...they'd punch you in the dick.

President Biden is handling this quite well.  

[tx 3 putt 76906]

 

[AUS-97HORN 11757]

a new take on "praise the lord and pass the ammunition"

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chulapas. And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

41 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

There are certain people in this country that shouldn’t be given any ideas. 

[Parliament 14255]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

And if you cold go back in time and tell them that a lot of NATO’ equipment that was designed and even built during the Cold War is kicking the living shit out of Russia’s “modern” equipment here in 2022…this would be their response.

Mine would be:

 

Of course I was a youngster when "Red Dawn" and "The Day After" came out.  

[atomheartbevo 89649]

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89649]

 

 

[TankedBevo 2482]

Goddamn that is creepy 

[bolverk 29666]

13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

Reminds me of when they'd haul our asses into the HS auditorium and make us listen to another damned D.A.R.E. speaker.

[Parliament 14255]

23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

What does Russia have that the world needs?

[Pods 7552]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

What does Russia have that the world needs?

Exactly. Who needs Russia, if there are no civilized values in it? 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

19 minutes ago, Parliament said:

What does Russia have that the world needs?

 

16 minutes ago, Pods said:

Exactly. Who needs Russia, if there are no civilized values in it? 

 

We need Russia. We don't need Russians.

[Chad Fuck 17670]

 


 

Serious Jim Jones vibes here.

[InkaUtexas 25909]

OK, this dude needs to be on the list at The Hague. Fuck him and his viewpoints. 

Maybe the next tribunals need to be in Katyn.   

[atomheartbevo 89649]

Elon ducking with Twitter is giving us some good things..on other sites.  Some long form,

 

[InkaUtexas 25909]

7 hours ago, MillerEP said:

They have a slight advantage. They're much closer to their supply lines and have better equipment and intelligence. They're also more motivated to push the Russians out than they are to let the Russians consolidate their gains. The longer they rest and wait, the longer Russia has to also rest, train these 300,000, re-outfit, re-arm, and undermine Western support.

Winter will SUUUUCK for both parties, especially anyone sitting in a trench, so I don't see either side dragging that out any longer than they have to.

Was thinking about your post. And yeah, let the Russians wait. Let them rebel. Let them become fodder just like their grandfathers. Sucks for them. I do feel bad for the troops and the hell they will endure this winter. But so be it. 

Feed the UA, keep their morale up and boost in new (and key word) trained troops. 

Can Russia sustain those 300K? And I don't believe the west is turning our back on the Ukrainians. They might not get all the new gear they want, but they will be supported. 

Concerning winter. Lets remember 1917. It was Russian troops who left the trenches. Perhaps they will do it again. Then the question becomes how fast can we secure their nukes. 

Going to be interesting times. 

[atomheartbevo 89649]

Lot of people, including the Ukrainian defense forces saying Kherson is a trap.

 

[atomheartbevo 89649]

 

 

[InkaUtexas 25909]

23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Lot of people, including the Ukrainian defense forces saying Kherson is a trap.

 

It probably is. So push them out and take your time going in. Hammer them on the east bank. Damn, we are all masters of Ukrainian river systems by now! I know the category I am picking for trivia. 

You don't win this war controlling territory now. You win it by destroying the enemy and controlling it next year. Putin said three days, a lot of us said maybe three years. I think you were one of them. And I agree. 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

^Could you imagine getting 15 years max security prison for running Surly?

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[MillerEP 30454]

 

[blacklab 11926]

57 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^Could you imagine getting 15 years max security prison for running Surly?

[RPM 26318]

14 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Le Boom !

 

[Parliament 14255]

6 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

It probably is. So push them out and take your time going in. Hammer them on the east bank. Damn, we are all masters of Ukrainian river systems by now! I know the category I am picking for trivia. 

You don't win this war controlling territory now. You win it by destroying the enemy and controlling it next year. Putin said three days, a lot of us said maybe three years. I think you were one of them. And I agree. 

How much of Kherson will be in UKA artillery range?  Would be nice to spend the winter picking off exposed targets.

6 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

An encouraging first step for the Italians.