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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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Long range attacks could be related to this:

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/secret_weapon_by_ukraines_ukroboronprom_1000km_range_75kg_warhead_what_it_can_be-4571.html

"Secret Weapon by Ukraine’s Ukroboronprom: 1000km Range, 75kg Warhead. What It Can Be

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ukr.defense.news@gmail.com
October 18, 2022
Photo credit: Ukroboronprom

The development of remote warfare means for Ukraine is more than important when it comes to the need to destroy targets at a range of hundreds of kilometers
Ukraine’s Ukroboronprom State Military Concern published an interesting post announcing about the development of a weapon that will become the longest "arm" of the fire weapons currently available in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Of course, it is quite difficult to guess what it is going to be exactly, but the size of the warhead, the range and the photo of the possible fuselage itself suggest that it may be a fairly large kamikaze drone. That is, the estimated wingspan and weight should be approximately more than 4 meters, and the take-off weight of more than 200 kg.

Read more: Ukrainian Police Shooting Down a Shahed Drone During Attack on Kyiv (Video)
At the same time, the range of 1000 km (if they meant the range of damage, and not the range of the flight) opens the question regarding the means of guidance. If we do not take into account the purely theoretical possibility of establishing a satellite connection, then such a range does not make it possible to implement a direct control channel.


MBDA's Fire Shadow kamikaze drone had a range of up to 100km due to the issue of guidance / Illustrative photo from open sources
In these conditions, the simplest implementation will be ordinary satellite navigation, which allows to hit stationary objects with coordinates known in advance. However, its accuracy may not be enough for surgical strikes at targets. In this case the question of accuracy is compensated by mass, and in some cases it is even more expedient. For example, when it comes to the need to disable enemy airfields.

More difficult, but much more useful, can be the possibility of installing a passive homing radar head on a kamikaze drone to destroy enemy air defense systems and surveillance radars.

At the same time, high-tech means of guidance in autonomous mode are considered quite expensive for the carrier, considering a high probability of interception by the enemy. In particular, it is much more effective to install a conditional thermal imaging homing head with contour recognition in a ground-based stealth cruise missile, which has a much greater chance of breaking through the enemy's air defense system than a slow-moving drone.


IAI Harpy is an Israeli kamikaze drone for destroying enemy radars / Illustrative photo from open sources
But despite everything, the most important issue is the completion of development terms and the pace of mass production. Because in fact the main advantage of the Shahed-136 is the quantity: the russian federation received a significant number of these kamikaze drones. And the tactics is simple: several dozen drones are launched at the same time, even though only a few of them break through.

So, it’s not a question of creation of single samples, but the need for mass production of hundreds of them to achieve the appropriate effect and oversaturate the channels of the enemy's air defense systems. Which, in turn, puts a demand on the cost of such a kamikaze drone, technological production cycles and production capacities.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, dimyh said:

If the 1000km range is true then is a game changer if able to produce in quantity. Russian milbloggers are having a conniption fit about their air bases getting bombed.

 

If something like this was used against Engels, then the bigger game changer is the state of Russian air defense and readiness as this should be one of the most heavily monitored patches of sky in the Russian Federation. Especially during a war with your neighbor. 

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even if it was a 1 time unit and they cant replicate, the optics of  losing 2 or more Strategic bombers are gonna drive Russia apeshit crazy.

*reminder that our B2's each cost something like $1.6B-$2B each.... losing 2 of them would represent the US losing ~9% of our entire fleet.

imagine, starting a war for no fucking reason against a supposedly technologically inferior opponent, only to end up with them sinking your flagship with a missile, effectively forcing your entire Black Sea fleet to hide in port.... and then proceeding to take out several of your "flagship" strategic bombers 600km away from the front line....

live look at Putin:

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25 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

even if it was a 1 time unit and they cant replicate, the optics of  losing 2 or more Strategic bombers are gonna drive Russia apeshit crazy.

*reminder that our B2's each cost something like $1.6B-$2B each.... losing 2 of them would represent the US losing ~9% of our entire fleet.

imagine, starting a war for no fucking reason against a supposedly technologically inferior opponent, only to end up with them sinking your flagship with a missile, effectively forcing your entire Black Sea fleet to hide in port.... and then proceeding to take out several of your "flagship" strategic bombers 600km away from the front line....

live look at Putin:

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The Tu-95 is almost directly analogous to our B-52. Same generation, similar missions, performance. Still a tremendous embarrassment. 
 

They have nothing to compare with the B-2 even as we roll out the 6 Gen B-21 and their planned replacement remains mostly vapor ware. Another embarrassment, of a different kind. 

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Was hoping for more carnage but that last shot has some nice wing damage. Of course Russia is not going to show the worst damage shots. Just wish Ukrainians had more to work with. If they could have had a salvo of 6-10 fired at once they could've wiped out most of what was on that strip. That would've been a hell of a sucker punch. Now we will see how RU reconfigures their air defenses.

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