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[Pescado_Rojo 19,416]

16 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Gary Cherone

[Bevo 13,570]

37 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

So it's like putting up our Van Halens against their Buddy Hollies? To use an analogy.

CHIEF

Maybe not Buddy Holly - more like Pud (later the Doobie Brothers) or Cream. Too bad Hoobastank wasn't around in the 60s.

[Pato del Muerto 52,487]

9 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Maybe not Buddy Holly - more like Pud (later the Doobie Brothers) or Cream. Too bad Hoobastank wasn't around in the 60s.

Buddy holly wasn’t around in the 60s either. 
 

how about The Ventures.  Right time period, good at that time, anachronistic now. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[CHIEF 5,078]

4 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Maybe not Buddy Holly - more like Pud (later the Doobie Brothers) or Cream. Too bad Hoobastank wasn't around in the 60s.

I should have used the Smothers Brothers after watching that Ukrainian tank push those Ruskie's shit in by dragging their tank balls and burying them in their trenches.

CHIEF

[BamaATL 16,593]

2 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

I should have used the Smothers Brothers after watching that Ukrainian tank push those Ruskie's shit in by dragging their tank balls and burying them in their trenches.

CHIEF

Glenn Miller Orchestra might have been more apt

[bolverk 29,656]

9 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

I should have used the Smothers Brothers after watching that Ukrainian tank push those Ruskie's shit in by dragging their tank balls and burying them in their trenches.

CHIEF

[MillerEP 30,448]

 

[MillerEP 30,448]

 

[MillerEP 30,448]

^Causing some rifts with the Chechens

[Armybrat 40,826]

1 hour ago, CHIEF said:

So it's like putting up our Van Halens against their Bill Haleys? To use an analogy.

CHIEF

Fify

[MillerEP 30,448]

 

[MillerEP 30,448]

 

[Rimbo 25,915]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

David Lee Roth Van Halen, or Sammy Hagar Van Halen?  This is important, please provide clarity.

cherone

saving Sammy and DLR for the spring offensive

Edited April 6, 2023 by Rimbo

[Orange&White 5,522]

1 hour ago, MillerEP said:

 

A protest against muslims seems like a good place for grabbing a few thousand new conscripts.

[MillerEP 30,448]

 

[atomheartbevo 89,630]

5 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

A protest against muslims seems like a good place for grabbing a few thousand new conscripts.

Toss in MillerEP's tweets about clashes between state forces and local militants (who are probably avoiding conscription) and it could be fun times ahead. 

And I know the Chechens are probably watching the mosque situation pretty closely.

[Rimbo 25,915]

16 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Toss in MillerEP's tweets about clashes between state forces and local militants (who are probably avoiding conscription) and it could be fun times ahead. 

And I know the Chechens are probably watching the mosque situation pretty closely.

make sure Iran sees that, eh?

[PTINS 3,466]

[PTINS 3,466]

3 hours ago, CHIEF said:

So it's like putting up our Van Halens against their Buddy Hollies? To use an analogy.

CHIEF

Damn it!!!

I get the analogy, but leave Buddy out of it.

Buddy Holly is a Texas Icon, the first high profile musician to adopt the Fender Stratocaster as his guitar of choice, creating the sound that started the British Invasion, influencing The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, among others.

I got nothing against Van Halen, but perhaps you might leave Buddy out of it. 😀

 

[BamaATL 16,593]

Sumbitches from Perdue Farms don't play

 

[CHIEF 5,078]

15 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Damn it!!!

I get the analogy, but leave Buddy out of it.

Buddy Holly is a Texas Icon, the first high profile musician to adopt the Fender Stratocaster as his guitar of choice, creating the sound that started the British Invasion, influencing The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, among others.

I got nothing against Van Halen, but perhaps you might leave Buddy out of it. 😀

 

I'm not up to snuff on 1950's Russian rock bands, or any Russian musicians from the 1950s for that matter.

CHIEF

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

 

[Bookman 4,638]

4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Gary Cherone

I had actually forgotten about that.

[KYHorn 17,017]

April O&G revenue not looking good:

Russia Forecasts $1.5Bln Shortage in Excess Oil and Gas Revenue

To cover the expected shortage, Russia’s Finance Ministry uses a budget rule that diverts excess oil revenues into the National Wealth Fund and buys foreign currency to replenish state reserves.

The Finance Ministry said it will sell 74.6 billion rubles ($940 million) worth of foreign currency over the next month, or 3.7 billion rubles per day between April 7-May 5.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/05/russia-forecasts-15bln-shortage-in-excess-oil-and-gas-revenue-a80720 

[MissingInAction 25,020]

What about the orange crop forecast?

[locodos 5,387]

2 hours ago, CHIEF said:

I'm not up to snuff on 1950's Russian rock bands, or any Russian musicians from the 1950s for that matter.

CHIEF

Cultural dominance

 

[Slacks 6,819]

On 4/4/2023 at 10:02 PM, Horn Dog said:

If MS or Sony could figure out a way to let gamers control an armed drone and chase down a real Russian tank in real time they could charge a shit load and the war would pay for itself.

This is figured out. It's one of the latest recruiting pitches... UAV for fun and shit.

[Brisketexan 105,082]

7 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

What about the orange crop forecast?

[KYHorn 17,017]

 

 

[KYHorn 17,017]

I somehow missed this info.

Ukraine War Plans Leak Prompts Pentagon Investigation

Classified documents detailing secret American and NATO plans have appeared on Twitter and Telegram. The leak documents do not provide specific battle plans but they offer a snapshot of time — the American and Ukrainian view, as of March 1, of what Ukrainian troops might need for the campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/politics/ukraine-war-plan-russia.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20230406&instance_id=89600&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=141347410&segment_id=129786&te=1&user_id=5edae170e2c7f9e85eb5207073ecafed

Spoiler

WASHINGTON — Classified war documents detailing secret American and NATO plans for building up the Ukrainian military ahead of a planned offensive against Russia were posted this week on social media channels, senior Biden administration officials said.

The Pentagon is investigating who may have been behind the leak of the documents, which appeared on Twitter and on Telegram, a platform with more than half a billion users that is widely available in Russia.

Military analysts said the documents appear to have been modified in certain parts from their original format, overstating American estimates of Ukrainian war dead and understating estimates of Russian troops killed.

The modifications could point to an effort of disinformation by Moscow, the analysts said. But the disclosures in the original documents, which appear as photographs of charts of anticipated weapons deliveries, troop and battalion strengths, and other plans, represents a significant breach of American intelligence in the effort to aid Ukraine.

Biden officials were working to get them deleted but had not, as of Thursday evening, succeeded.

“We are aware of the reports of social media posts and the department is reviewing the matter,” said Sabrina Singh, the deputy press secretary at the Pentagon.

The State of the War

• China Under the Spotlight: Beijing’s role in pressing Russia to end the war in Ukraine was expected to be a main topic of discussion during a three-day trip to China by Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, and Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission.
• Zelensky in Poland: On his first official visit to Poland, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine won strong backing from Polish leaders for his country’s rapid entry into NATO and signed a deal paving the way for the joint production of arms and ammunition.
• Finland’s Entry to NATO: The Nordic country officially became the military alliance’s 31st member, in what amounts to a strategic defeat for President Vladimir Putin of Russia.
• Drone Warfare: Using aerial drones to spot the enemy and direct artillery fire has become a staple of war for Ukraine and Russia, especially in the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut.

The documents do not provide specific battle plans, like how, when, and where Ukraine intends to launch its offensive. And because the documents are five weeks old, they offer a snapshot of time — the American and Ukrainian view, as of March 1, of what Ukrainian troops might need for the campaign.

To the trained eye of a Russian war planner, field general or intelligence analyst, however, the documents no doubt offer many tantalizing clues. The documents mention, for instance, the expenditure rate of HIMARS — American-supplied High Mobility Artillery Rocket System munitions, which can launch attacks against targets like ammunition dumps, infrastructure and concentrations of troops, from a distance. The Pentagon has not said publicly how fast Ukrainian troops are using the HIMARs munitions; the documents do.

It was unclear how the documents ended up on social media. But pro-Russian government channels have been sharing and circulating the briefing slides, military analysts said.

The analysts warned that documents released by Russian sources could be selectively altered to present the Kremlin’s disinformation.

 

“Whether these documents are authentic or not, people should take care with anything released by Russian sources,” said Michael Kofman, the director of Russian studies at CNA, a research institute in Arlington, Va.

One of the slides said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian soldiers had been killed while Ukraine had suffered as many as 71,500 troop deaths. The Pentagon and other analysts have estimated that Russia has suffered far more casualties, and that closer to 200,000 soldiers on each side had been killed or wounded.

Nonetheless, analysts said parts of the documents appeared authentic and would provide Russia with valuable information such as the timetables for the delivery of weapons and troops, Ukrainian troop buildup numbers and other military details.

A document labeled “top secret” offers the “Status of the Conflict as of 1 Mar.” On that day, Ukrainian officials were at an American base in Weisbaden, Germany, for war game sessions, and a day later, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Christopher Cavoli, the supreme allied commander for Europe, visited the sessions.

Another document includes columns that list Ukrainian troop units, equipment and training, with schedules for January through April. The document contains a summary of 12 combat brigades that are being assembled, with nine of them apparently being trained and supplied by the United States and other NATO allies. Of those nine brigades, the documents said that six would be ready by March 31 and the rest by April 30. A Ukrainian brigade has about 4,000 to 5,000 soldiers, analysts said.The document said that equipment delivery times would affect training and readiness to meet the timeline. Total equipment needed for nine brigades, the document said, was more than 250 tanks and more than 350 mechanized vehicles.

The leak is the first Russian intelligence breakthrough that has been made public since the war began. Throughout the war, the United States has provided Ukraine with information on command posts, ammunition depots and other key nodes in the Russian military lines. Such real-time intelligence has allowed the Ukrainians to target Russian forces, kill senior generals and force ammunition supplies to be moved farther from the Russian front lines, though U.S. officials say Ukraine has played the decisive role in planning and execution of those strikes.

But early on during the war, Ukrainian officials were hesitant about sharing their battle plans with the United States, for fear of leaks, American and European officials said. As recently as last summer, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s.

The intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the United States loosened up considerably last fall, and the two countries have been working closely on options for a Ukrainian offensive.

 

[Handcruser 2,805]

[KYHorn 17,017]

 

 

 

It seems like we should be treating Bularus as though they are a part of Russia.

Edited April 7, 2023 by KYHorn

[Gatorubet 30,189]

10 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

It seems like we should be treating Bularus as though they are a part of Russia.

Yes, Belarus will eventually be able to pick up the Polish language given a decade or two

[bolverk 29,656]

4 hours ago, CHIEF said:

I'm not up to snuff on 1950's Russian rock bands, or any Russian musicians from the 1950s for that matter.

CHIEF

Not a Soviet rock 'n roll scholar myself, but I'll go ahead and offer up the only Soviet singer I know. Even went so far as to find a TRANSLATED version for you guys.

Take that Diamond Dave.

 

[Pato del Muerto 52,487]

2 hours ago, KYHorn said:

I somehow missed this info.

Ukraine War Plans Leak Prompts Pentagon Investigation

Classified documents detailing secret American and NATO plans have appeared on Twitter and Telegram. The leak documents do not provide specific battle plans but they offer a snapshot of time — the American and Ukrainian view, as of March 1, of what Ukrainian troops might need for the campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/politics/ukraine-war-plan-russia.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20230406&instance_id=89600&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=141347410&segment_id=129786&te=1&user_id=5edae170e2c7f9e85eb5207073ecafed

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WASHINGTON — Classified war documents detailing secret American and NATO plans for building up the Ukrainian military ahead of a planned offensive against Russia were posted this week on social media channels, senior Biden administration officials said.

The Pentagon is investigating who may have been behind the leak of the documents, which appeared on Twitter and on Telegram, a platform with more than half a billion users that is widely available in Russia.

Military analysts said the documents appear to have been modified in certain parts from their original format, overstating American estimates of Ukrainian war dead and understating estimates of Russian troops killed.

The modifications could point to an effort of disinformation by Moscow, the analysts said. But the disclosures in the original documents, which appear as photographs of charts of anticipated weapons deliveries, troop and battalion strengths, and other plans, represents a significant breach of American intelligence in the effort to aid Ukraine.

Biden officials were working to get them deleted but had not, as of Thursday evening, succeeded.

“We are aware of the reports of social media posts and the department is reviewing the matter,” said Sabrina Singh, the deputy press secretary at the Pentagon.

The State of the War

• China Under the Spotlight: Beijing’s role in pressing Russia to end the war in Ukraine was expected to be a main topic of discussion during a three-day trip to China by Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, and Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission.
• Zelensky in Poland: On his first official visit to Poland, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine won strong backing from Polish leaders for his country’s rapid entry into NATO and signed a deal paving the way for the joint production of arms and ammunition.
• Finland’s Entry to NATO: The Nordic country officially became the military alliance’s 31st member, in what amounts to a strategic defeat for President Vladimir Putin of Russia.
• Drone Warfare: Using aerial drones to spot the enemy and direct artillery fire has become a staple of war for Ukraine and Russia, especially in the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut.

The documents do not provide specific battle plans, like how, when, and where Ukraine intends to launch its offensive. And because the documents are five weeks old, they offer a snapshot of time — the American and Ukrainian view, as of March 1, of what Ukrainian troops might need for the campaign.

To the trained eye of a Russian war planner, field general or intelligence analyst, however, the documents no doubt offer many tantalizing clues. The documents mention, for instance, the expenditure rate of HIMARS — American-supplied High Mobility Artillery Rocket System munitions, which can launch attacks against targets like ammunition dumps, infrastructure and concentrations of troops, from a distance. The Pentagon has not said publicly how fast Ukrainian troops are using the HIMARs munitions; the documents do.

It was unclear how the documents ended up on social media. But pro-Russian government channels have been sharing and circulating the briefing slides, military analysts said.

The analysts warned that documents released by Russian sources could be selectively altered to present the Kremlin’s disinformation.

 

“Whether these documents are authentic or not, people should take care with anything released by Russian sources,” said Michael Kofman, the director of Russian studies at CNA, a research institute in Arlington, Va.

One of the slides said 16,000 to 17,500 Russian soldiers had been killed while Ukraine had suffered as many as 71,500 troop deaths. The Pentagon and other analysts have estimated that Russia has suffered far more casualties, and that closer to 200,000 soldiers on each side had been killed or wounded.

Nonetheless, analysts said parts of the documents appeared authentic and would provide Russia with valuable information such as the timetables for the delivery of weapons and troops, Ukrainian troop buildup numbers and other military details.

A document labeled “top secret” offers the “Status of the Conflict as of 1 Mar.” On that day, Ukrainian officials were at an American base in Weisbaden, Germany, for war game sessions, and a day later, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Christopher Cavoli, the supreme allied commander for Europe, visited the sessions.

Another document includes columns that list Ukrainian troop units, equipment and training, with schedules for January through April. The document contains a summary of 12 combat brigades that are being assembled, with nine of them apparently being trained and supplied by the United States and other NATO allies. Of those nine brigades, the documents said that six would be ready by March 31 and the rest by April 30. A Ukrainian brigade has about 4,000 to 5,000 soldiers, analysts said.The document said that equipment delivery times would affect training and readiness to meet the timeline. Total equipment needed for nine brigades, the document said, was more than 250 tanks and more than 350 mechanized vehicles.

The leak is the first Russian intelligence breakthrough that has been made public since the war began. Throughout the war, the United States has provided Ukraine with information on command posts, ammunition depots and other key nodes in the Russian military lines. Such real-time intelligence has allowed the Ukrainians to target Russian forces, kill senior generals and force ammunition supplies to be moved farther from the Russian front lines, though U.S. officials say Ukraine has played the decisive role in planning and execution of those strikes.

But early on during the war, Ukrainian officials were hesitant about sharing their battle plans with the United States, for fear of leaks, American and European officials said. As recently as last summer, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s.

The intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the United States loosened up considerably last fall, and the two countries have been working closely on options for a Ukrainian offensive.

 

Operation mincemeat

[SquishMitten 10,403]

12 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Gotta be a typo, right? $27 million surely can’t produce many Abrams

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

4 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Gotta be a typo, right? $27 million surely can’t produce many Abrams

It's for the M1A1. Likely refurbishing existing tanks that are pulled out of storage.

[KYHorn 17,017]

Warning: A drone drops an explosive that detonates near a Russian soldier's head. You can't really see much at that point, but near the end, he's laying face down in a pool of a mixture of mud and his own blood.

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited April 7, 2023 by KYHorn

[texasdago 7,569]

Unfortunately post-Soviet...

 

[686 3,447]

[/url] ^Causing some rifts with the Chechens

Here’s a response from the Chechens; say they don’t care much about this Ukraine thing and will happily come to Moscow and get it on if they see another Muslim protest video. Hopefully someone can make that happen.

[bolverk 29,656]

49 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Unfortunately post-Soviet...

 

Had to look this guy up: Ukrainian-born, during Soviet days, his bio ends with this:

Following the COVID-19 pandemic, Vitas' touring abroad stopped and for a while, he solely performed in Russia. Since March 2022, he has withdrawn from performing publicly and focused mostly on his family.

Coincidence? Whatever the guy's reasons, I applaud his decision either way. 

[Gatorubet 30,189]

1 hour ago, 686 said:

Here’s a response from the Chechens; say they don’t care much about this Ukraine thing and will happily come to Moscow and get it on if they see another Muslim protest video. Hopefully someone can make that happen.

 

 

 

 

So - there is the problem with the Russian government being in bed with that asshole Orthodox Pope and his priests in this situation. Margarita and the other talking heads are constantly invoking the Orthodox Christian religion as the only true religion in the world, and one that has to be obeyed. The fact that Putin is telling the Pope what to do is apparently of no moment.

Those Orthodox Russians are as crazy as America’s evangelicals. It is not going to be easy to tell them all to fuck off and enjoy the giant Moscow mosque…any more than First Assembly of God of the Blood of the Lamb of bum fuck Kentucky can be told to fuck off and enjoy pride week.

This could get interesting.

I also have a hunch that this video is not so much directed at Russia, as it is directed at Chechnya and all of the tribes who are itching to get rid of Kadyrov.   If the Kadyrovites appear to be all Muslim holy warrior response to insults to Islam, I suspect it is directed at the folks back home who have been waiting for a chance to go after Russia again, especially since Russia can’t have a two front war.  if Kadyrov does not come down hard on this, it might be his undoing back home.

This has been the brightest ray of hope I’ve seen in sometime.  if the CIA can’t arrange for the mosque to be bombed before it opens, then I’ve lost my faith in spooks

 

[BamaATL 16,593]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Operation mincemeat

Along these lines, and this is just a theory of my own, I do wonder if this is a psyop of sorts.  My reasoning for suspecting this is the troop numbers that the Ukrainians are believed to be massing for the counter offensive seems woefully low, and well under the rumors I've read elsewhere.  If you are to take the document at face value, the estimates of the brigades being prepared would be between 45k to 54k.  This doesn't at all jive with build ups estimates I've read elsewhere (in some cases people insisting there are nearly 800k Ukrainians massing east of Dnipro).   Granted, at least of half of these would be logistics and support, but even if you double the 54k that's not even remotely in the vicinity of the rumors.  We know from western reports, that the Russians have forces in country of somewhere near 330k.  If you consider that 1/3 might be logistics and support, that would equate to 200k front line soldiers for them.  Matching 1:1 on the front line would still only have 200k Ukrainian soldiers rotationally engaged.  If reporting is to believed, that that would leave approximately 800k Ukrainians unaccounted for (reports have been that the Ukrainians have forces around 1.2 million) and a 1:1 ration of support to front line.  Even if you increased the logistic to 3 to 1, you'd still have about 600k Ukrainians unaccounted for.  Which of course brings me back to the report of the brigade counts being woefully short.  

Lastly, even the Pentagon has been messaging that the counter offensive is going to be large.  Given our tendency to use the concept of over abundance than necessary to get the job done, I don't think we'd be doing much in the way of positive messaging if the build up is only 54k of soldiers.  Basically the concept of undersell, over perform, is seemingly the norm for the Pentagon with a large operation to be done.  

I just think that like the totals of the equipment delivered, this sounds completely under sold; which may well be the point.  Now the fact that the Russians doctored a psyop would be an aside of funny, especially since they may well be missing the larger trick to it all.  Time will tell, and I think we are with in 10 days of starting to find out.  I'm not a patient guy, but considering that the Ukrainians may only get one shot at something this big, I completely understand them wanting to wait until conditions are perfect for them to strike.  

I'll see you in Calais! (with my very small strike force)

[956 Worldwide 34,704]

Lavrov really laying down some reasonable pre-conditions for negotiations.

[grazinhorn 472]

I happened to be in the area yesterday so I stopped by the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant, one of the main places pressing hard to produce as many artillery shells as possible.  I was curious as to where it actually was, and it's right there in the middle of all kinds of things.  Anyway, hookem to everyone busting their ass to increase production of such a sorely needed item right now.

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

Listen Ukraine, I want you to promise me a new world order without the United States

 

Yes yes.  Absolutely.   together we control about 2% of the worlds gpd so we should be able to manage that.

[KYHorn 17,017]

 

[KYHorn 17,017]

Of course...

 

 

 

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[Parliament 14,249]

53 minutes ago, grazinhorn said:

I happened to be in the area yesterday so I stopped by the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant, one of the main places pressing hard to produce as many artillery shells as possible.  I was curious as to where it actually was, and it's right there in the middle of all kinds of things.  Anyway, hookem to everyone busting their ass to increase production of such a sorely needed item right now.

 

I'm converting my misplaced love for Elon Musk for worshipping our military-industrial complex.  Yeah their toilet seats cost $50k a piece, but God do they kill Russians.