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On 5/9/2023 at 10:07 AM, Rimbo said:

This is really quite a development. My mother was from Latvia, as her family fled during WWII as the Russians were closing in. We visited (her first after having left) about 25 years ago and she was disgusted with the fact that anytime she asked a question of someone in Latvian - directions, or casual conversation - the reply was almost always in Russian. It was part of a wholesale eradication of the national history and culture of the country (and has absolutely been a central component of Russian strategy for much of this century).

If this report is as real as it sounds, this is a huge cultural shift for Latvia. Truly remarkable. 

(apologies for bringing this up so many days after it was posted - can't keep up with this thread, and thank you to those who keep it fed with such great information!)

[Rimbo 25933]

9 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

It’s pretty clear the orcs were told if they retreat they’ll be killed. 

But why blow your brains out instead of surrendering?

Because they're told horror stories (lies) about what Ukraine will do to them if captured.

[The Dog 44051]

20 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

He kept refusing to commit to battle, likely seen as a betraying act in Putin's mind.  If he dies and a some military hardliner suddenly comes to power, it will make total sense.  

IIRC he's tried to order the military to invade and they have refused. They will fight to defend their country but have no interest in invading Ukraine.

[atomheartbevo 89665]

12 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

It’s pretty clear the orcs were told if they retreat they’ll be killed. 

But why blow your brains out instead of surrendering?

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Because they're told horror stories (lies) about what Ukraine will do to them if captured.

Or what Wagner or the Chechens will do to them if they are captured and used for prisoner exchanges and end back up in Russian hands.

[SquishMitten 10406]

I think it's a bit of both. A) They've been conditioned to avoid becoming trade bait for Ukrainian POWs, and b) after they get used as trade bait, they'll be executed anyway, so it's a double betrayal of the motherland. Probably mix in a little fear-mongering about what will happen to them while in Ukrainian custody.

[The Dog 44051]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

Just now, SquishMitten said:

I think it's a bit of both. A) They've been conditioned to avoid becoming trade bait for Ukrainian POWs, and b) after they get used as trade bait, they'll be executed anyway, so it's a double betrayal of the motherland. Probably mix in a little fear-mongering about what will happen to them while in Ukrainian custody.

Which is believable to them based on how they see russia treat its pows 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[Rimbo 25933]

man, it must really suck to be Russian

[RDCanecutter 26442]

36 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That seems odd though - Lukashenko is firmly in Putin's pocket - he's only in power because of Putin.

Old fat dudes have been known to have heart attacks with no outside help. I know it sounds crazy, but I've heard about it.

[atomheartbevo 89665]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Which is believable to them based on how they see russia treat its pows 

And Prigozhin, etc., probably made sure the sledgehammer videos were circulated amongst Russian troops and mercenaries.

[locodos 5387]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

He's on Surly, so it wouldn't be hard since:

• 48% of us are doctors
• 48% of us are attorneys
• 2% of us are doctors and attorneys
• 2% of us are neither doctors nor attorneys
• 2% of us aren't good at math.

The other 2% are 3%ers

[ABSR 5312]

44 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That seems odd though - Lukashenko is firmly in Putin's pocket - he's only in power because of Putin.

Putin has been pushing Lukashenko to declare war, invade and go all in on supporting Russia.  Lukashenko has done a lot, but would not go all in as I believe he worried his people would rise up against him including his military who don't want to do that.

But Putin's goal is to annex Belarus which I think Lukashenko did not want, and if there was an uprising in Belarus Russia would roll tanks in and stop it and take over which really just speeds up the annexation process. 

[jdhorn92 1549]

20 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

It’s pretty clear the orcs were told if they retreat they’ll be killed. 

But why blow your brains out instead of surrendering?

I doubt they realize the UKR military is more westernized and will treat them humanely, for the most part.   All they know is the horror stories passed down from Chechnya where the Muslims beheaded, tortured, murdered and stuck detainees in pits.  My guess is they only know the Russian way.

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

You mean roll tank in. 

[atomheartbevo 89665]

3 minutes ago, ABSR said:

But Putin's goal is to annex Belarus which I think Lukashenko did not want, and if there was an uprising in Belarus Russia would roll tanks in and stop it and take over which really just speeds up the annexation process. 

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You mean roll tank in. 

[atomheartbevo 89665]

 

[Rimbo 25933]

9 minutes ago, ABSR said:

Putin has been pushing Lukashenko to declare war, invade and go all in on supporting Russia.  Lukashenko has done a lot, but would not go all in as I believe he worried his people would rise up against him including his military who don't want to do that.

But Putin's goal is to annex Belarus which I think Lukashenko did not want, and if there was an uprising in Belarus Russia would roll tanks in and stop it and take over which really just speeds up the annexation process. 

What tanks?

[SimonBolivar 10958]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Meh, I think we should be importing more alcohol to Russia.

[atomheartbevo 89665]

I actually think Russia knows this is a fuck around and find out scenario.

Been said elsewhere, but lots o

Been said elsewhere, but sounds like Bakhmut is ready to collapse.

 

[atomheartbevo 89665]

1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

Meh, I think we should be importing more alcohol to Russia.

We should be helping Ukraine to drop it in to the Russians, maybe ship a bunch of Everclear over or something.  Although Poland has something even stronger (like 192 proof?)

[Steel Shank 9425]

5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Meh, I think we should be importing more alcohol to Russia.

If this doesn't work, we should try exporting more alcohol to Russia.

[SimonBolivar 10958]

1 minute ago, Steel Shank said:

If this doesn't work, we should try exporting more alcohol to Russia.

Well shit

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26442]

1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

Well shit

 

 

Got these college boys up in here.

[TKthunder2 4991]

5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Well shit

[The Dog 44051]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that Russian troops are regrouping towards the Berkhovsky reservoir! But as the head of the Wagner PMC reports, the Russian Army does not regroup, but simply runs away from positions like the very last rats

[BamaATL 16593]

Sorry for partying

 

[DDD Dad 14339]

6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that Russian troops are regrouping towards the Berkhovsky reservoir! But as the head of the Wagner PMC reports, the Russian Army does not regroup, but simply runs away from positions like the very last rats

Not a step back!

[The Dog 44051]

 

[Scheiss Meister 8407]

1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

Because they're told horror stories (lies) about what Ukraine will do to them if captured.

This, and they don't want to risk being exchanged back to the Russians in a prisoner swap.  They are really fucked, any way they turn.

[atomheartbevo 89665]

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

I'm mesmerized. That feels like some kind of 60s lounge music/emcee selling me on a weapons system.

Edited May 12, 2023 by atomheartbevo

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

32 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm mesmerized. That feels like some kind of 60s lounge music/emcee selling me on a weapons system.

Same, and I don’t have the slightest damn clue which rep selection is the most correct choice. 

[Gengs1 2583]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

This is just pure art and fucking awesome 

[Rimbo 25933]

On 2/24/2022 at 3:05 PM, SimonBolivar said:

I'm shocked by this. How does a military like Russia's not wipe them out in day one?

 

On 2/24/2022 at 3:18 PM, troph said:

If they make it though the night I’ll be surprised. 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 5:24 AM, 956 Worldwide said:

To clarify— offer for negotiations in Minsk is absolutely an offer made in bad faith.  Like Hitler inviting Stalin to negotiate in one of his puppet states for an end to World War II. 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 5:26 AM, NoRagrets said:

They’ll “take Kyiv” but good luck with the whole occupation thing when 100% of the civilians are armed and hate you.

 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 5:43 AM, Sawbonz said:

The idea that Putin will stop with Ukraine is laughable. He will next build up his forces on the border of whichever former Soviet NATO member he deems most vulnerable and start alleging corruption atrocities etc and then move in and again threaten nukes if NATO responds. We need to encourage Finland to get belligerent and help them behind the scenes 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 5:52 AM, utee94 said:

Any offer of "talks" from Putin are bullshit.  To him that means complete Ukrainian surrender.  He has no interest in peace or negotiations.  If he did, it would have happened before the invasion.

 

On 2/25/2022 at 3:50 AM, Buzzrock said:

Favorite response: “45 million people this goddam stubborn cannot be occupied…”

RIP to those patriots

 

On 2/25/2022 at 4:09 AM, Buzzrock said:

The prior Ukraine President was on CNN just a little bit ago from the streets of Kyiv holding a rifle and surrounded by other fighters. When asked how long they can hold out he said, “Forever.”

 

On 2/25/2022 at 4:55 AM, 956 Worldwide said:

“Russian warship, go fuck yourself.” (Lit: Get dicked).

All the people in this video are dead. Don’t worry about gas prices. 
 

 

 

On 2/25/2022 at 4:33 AM, Hefeweizen said:

 

This is a great read.  Former US Army commander in Europe on how bad the Russian army morale and training is in actuality.

 

I just wish the west had one iota of the giant balls the Ukrainians are showing.

Went back in time to try to find the original "sunflower seed" babushka. Instead, found some old posts, some of which were prophetic, others that are hilarious in retrospect (but only in retrospect... few of us knew then...)

[troph 24797]

11 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Went back in time to try to find the original "sunflower seed" babushka. Instead, found some old posts, some of which were prophetic, others that are hilarious in retrospect (but only in retrospect... few of us knew then...)

100% shocked but many of us bought into the Russian hype machine from the old Cold War era. I think US officials were surprised and that led to momentum and more backing and you can see the trickle effect of more weapons, and even pushing into more offensive weaponry. War is awful but seeing Ukraine fight the righteous fight against a true evil is hopeful. 

[Gatorubet 30238]

[Rimbo 25933]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

guilty as charged

[Pods 7552]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

This video is amazing. I negged to complete the cycle, but I'll hit you with 2 pos reps to offset. 

[The Dog 44051]

 

[Parliament 14260]

34 minutes ago, troph said:

100% shocked but many of us bought into the Russian hype machine from the old Cold War era.

No kidding.  I layed awake at night afraid of THESE dipshits?  Ronald Reagan lied to me.

[Deej 76790]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm mesmerized. That feels like some kind of 60s lounge music/emcee selling me on a weapons system.

I'm so hard right now. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by Deej

[BamaATL 16593]

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

The real big problem for the Ruskies is that the MALD's  paint any of the air defense that ding it with active or passive radar as a target for the Ukrainians.  I earlier saw a tweet with mid day Himars launches and I can't help but wonder it is related to this use.  It's wouldn't shock me at all if tomorrow we find out that much of the air defense within a few hundred km of the storm shadow was suddenly taken out today.  

If that is the case, it poses an impossible choice for the Russians, turn on air defense to try to defend the skies and be painted as a target, or no air defense.  Truly a big game changer if this is in fact the case.  

[Born to Run 6569]

No kidding.  I layed awake at night afraid of THESE dipshits?  Ronald Reagan lied to me.

Same, turns out just need some scrappy high school kids, err Ukrainians.

[Rimbo 25933]

21 minutes ago, Pods said:

This video is amazing. I negged to complete the cycle, but I'll hit you with 2 pos reps to offset. 

No need. @The Dog doesn't deserve the rep he has.

 

😉

[Deej 76790]

14 minutes ago, Parliament said:

No kidding.  I layed awake at night afraid of THESE dipshits?  Ronald Reagan lied to me.

Well, they've had 40 years of fuckery since Reagan to degrade their abilities. 

[troph 24797]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Well, they've had 40 years of fuckery since Reagan to degrade their abilities. 

Oligarchs gotta get paid.

[Bevo 13577]

7 minutes ago, Deej said:

Well, they've had 40 years of fuckery since Reagan to degrade their abilities. 

Plus, Reagan was talking about the USSR.

[atomheartbevo 89665]

37 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

The real big problem for the Ruskies is that the MALD's  paint any of the air defense that ding it with active or passive radar as a target for the Ukrainians.  I earlier saw a tweet with mid day Himars launches and I can't help but wonder it is related to this use.  It's wouldn't shock me at all if tomorrow we find out that much of the air defense within a few hundred km of the storm shadow was suddenly taken out today.  

If that is the case, it poses an impossible choice for the Russians, turn on air defense to try to defend the skies and be painted as a target, or no air defense.  Truly a big game changer if this is in fact the case.  

Don't forget the 1990s-era HARMS we had laying around in storage since the F-14s were retired, that the Ukrainians figured out how to rig up with their Mig-29s.

 This has literally become a weapons laboratory for NATO systems of all different types, complete with a snazzy 1960s-era commercial for the MALDs.

 

[atomheartbevo 89665]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Same, and I don’t have the slightest damn clue which rep selection is the most correct choice. 

42 minutes ago, Deej said:

I'm so hard right now. 

I want to buy one.  I have no way of launching or using it, but I want to buy one, based on that commercial.  

And if we are giving them the "A" models, they are only $30,000 a piece.  Even the A models have a range of 285 miles, up to 30,000 feet altitude.  Those fancier ones are up into the $200k-$300k range, but the things can go nearly 600 miles and loiter.

The next few days are going to be really fascinating to watch play out.

[Homesickhorn 2202]

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

What tanks?

Well after watching their victory parade, it's probably just "tank".  And I think their city committee named it Little Sebastian.

[Superhero 8830]

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Because they're told horror stories (lies) about what Ukraine will do to them if captured.

Continue spreading those lies. More suicides means fewer POWs and worthless mouths to feed.

 

Not saying the Ukrainians should violate the Geneva convention or anything, but put up a forest of dead bodies - disemboweled, eyes gouged out, feet chopped off, castrated, and wearing Colombian neckties - and see how many Russians want to keep attacking.