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[PTINS 3485]

In the absence of factual information, I'll make some up use my idle time wisely. 

My GoogleEarth map, showing main railroads in Occupied Ukraine

The NE-SW line from Volnovakha-Polohy-Tokmak-Melitopol is the critical supply line to Crimea, and basically everything Southwest of Donetsk.  Controlling any portion of the line isolates Crimea by rail, and cuts off any Russian troops to the west from supplies by rail. 

Same map, zoomed in, showing the main roads & highways, depicting how those smaller towns are choke points of road & rail traffic across Russian occupied Ukraine. Interesting thought on the movement of Russian troops from the flooded Dnieper River. Were they moved far enough east to provide meaningful support or will they be cut off and isolated by advancing Ukraine troops? Pretty much all cultivated farmland from there to the coast, "...I'm ten years burning down the road...Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go."

 

[SimonBolivar 10960]

I want this (from WW1 Museum in KC)

 

[KYHorn 17201]

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

[statsman 5486]

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

[Chad Fuck 17806]

17 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

The fuck is wrong with this guy?  I get he wants to march along as dictator of Hungary, but how does provoking the rest of the EU help him with that in the long run?  

1 minute ago, statsman said:

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

They're going to do that anyhow.

[BamaATL 16593]

 

[SL Xpress 7518]

1 minute ago, statsman said:

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

That was a storm shadow strike (doesn't change your point).,

There aren't that many locals in the area. That's on the spit at the mouth of the Dnipro. It was a tourist area previously. 

I don't think Bucha had anything to do with partisans. The people responsible for those horrors were ordered to clear the area of human beings. Not as a reprisal, but as a strategy to sow terror and to make sure there wouldn't be any distractions. 

I'm not sure what you're referring to with Kharkiv. Russia has never occupied it. 

To me Russians are going to be vicious regardless. They abduct children. They blow up prisoners of war. They execute civilians with gunshots to the back of their heads. They blow up dams, but first make sure they've taken or destroyed every flotation device for the people who will be most impacted before they do so. Then they shoot at people who try to evacuate, and shell evacuation centers.

They target hospitals and medical personnel, even setting up traps where they can target anyone taking away the wounded. 

They destroy any cultural references to the Ukrainian people. They burn books written in the Ukrainian language. They erase any reference to Ukraine, its culture, and its people in the history taught in the occupied areas. 

They keep food from being exported. They annex territory in sham referendums, even when it's likely they might have passed with a majority vote in a legitimate one. They threaten the use of nuclear weapons indiscriminately. They purposefully risk nuclear meltdown at the nuclear power plant under their control, up to and including using it as a hostage for staging military equipment. 

They imprison their own citizens to long terms simply for not agreeing with the war. They arrest American citizens and then give them no access to the outside world. I can't remember the exact quote, but someone above in the thread stated what they can't control, fuck, or steal, they simply destroy.

I don't think destroying a building housing military personnel changes the equation much at all. 

[Foggy Notion 1202]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

Anyone else notice the kicks in the first video?

[27-25 2055]

52 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

Isn't forced "parading" of prisoners of war a crime?  Or is Hungarian dickhead here off the hook because it's "voluntary"?

Fuck this guy nevertheless.

Edited June 10, 2023 by 27-25
typo

[Parliament 14333]

So again, what's Orban's end? Do his voters want this? Is he being bribed by the Russians?  What? 

[MillerEP 30501]

 

[MillerEP 30501]

 

[The Dog 44160]

[MillerEP 30501]

 

[MillerEP 30501]

 

[MillerEP 30501]

 

[SL Xpress 7518]

15 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

There had to be a better way of making his point. The US isn't going to get that experience, either, because we wouldn't do such a thing. It's not a bug. It's a feature. And I don't know about the whole "no other Western-style military" thing. Is Israel not a western style military? How is he so sure no other western style military is capable of it?

I'm all for being rah rah Ukraine, but there are plenty of ways to do that without hyperbole. Not impressed. 

This is about desperation on one level. Ukraine needs to do something to prove this isn't a static war of attrition, and they can't wait for Western allies to provide enough air power to neutralize the Russian advantage in the theater of operation. They've admitted as much. So they're going in anyway. God speed.

[MissingInAction 25204]

51 minutes ago, The Dog said:

What am I missing here?

[Foggy Notion 1202]

post deleted 

Edited June 10, 2023 by Foggy Notion

[The Dog 44160]

13 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

What am I missing here?

Probably Kinburn Peninsula - orc garrison was cut off by the flooding.

 

[The Dog 44160]

It’s actually HIMARS

Edited June 10, 2023 by The Dog

[atomheartbevo 89816]

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

There had to be a better way of making his point. The US isn't going to get that experience, either, because we wouldn't do such a thing. It's not a bug. It's a feature. And I don't know about the whole "no other Western-style military" thing. Is Israel not a western style military? How is he so sure no other western style military is capable of it?

I don’t know if Israel could.  They have less than a quarter of Ukraine’s population and a much smaller active-duty military.  Granted, they could swell their ranks with  their reserves, but their military has, over time, changed to match up their immediate threats (and countries are not going to invade them with the nuclear thing hanging over their heads).  

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

This is about desperation on one level. Ukraine needs to do something to prove this isn't a static war of attrition, and they can't wait for Western allies to provide enough air power to neutralize the Russian advantage in the theater of operation. They've admitted as much. So they're going in anyway. God speed.

Yep.   They have a lot of MANPADS and other more tactical AD so hopefully that’ll be enough.  

Edited June 10, 2023 by atomheartbevo

[Rimbo 26140]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

i don't get it

black sea?

[atomheartbevo 89816]

37 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

i don't get it

black sea?

Lake Ladoga.

Live look at Putin:

[The Dog 44160]

Since both sides are already reporting it, I will release the information I collected, too. There is anyway a delay of this information and therefore does not compromise OPSEC.

Almost the entire forward defense line of the Russian army near Velyka Novosilka - around 20 km long - has been wiped out. Ukrainian forces liberated Neskuchne and Novodonets'ke.

Based on Russian drone footage we know that Ukrainian forces are already operating further south, hammering Russian forces in Storozheve and the little village of Blahodatne, nearby.

[atomheartbevo 89816]

Their OPSEC has been pretty solid, but there's a pretty clear picture that they are driving through the Russian defensive lines, 1km and 2km and 4km here and there.

We already know the Russians were finished in terms of offensive/maneuverability capabilities at Bakhmut, but I'm getting a little excited/suspicious that the Ukrainians are close to truly breaking the Russians in a lot of areas - once you get past their main defensive lines, the Russians don't have the soldiers to physically project a defense-in-depth. Otherwise, if they had the numbers, they would have taken Bakhmut in the first few months, instead of taking the better part of a year, as well as not lost Kherson and Kharkiv.

For all of those defensive positions we saw in Crimea, there's a hundreds of KMs where the defenses are scant, and probably coming down to some hastily dug, shallow, narrow (narrow enough for tracked vehicles to cross) earthworks and Russian soldiers who were not soldiers until recently.

And if Russia is truly trying to prepare another mass mobilization, it's too fucking late.  They ain't getting anything back that they lose from here on out.

Edited June 10, 2023 by atomheartbevo

[bolverk 29728]

Meanwhile, back further to the western end of the front.

 

[The Dog 44160]

If Crybar is saying this then the situation is very bad for Ivan.

 

[The Dog 44160]

 

all this gear is in Ukrainian held territory and is being repaired. The Leopard is already back in service killing Orcs.

Edited June 10, 2023 by The Dog

[Schulz2.0 29012]

55 minutes ago, The Dog said:

If Crybar is saying this then the situation is very bad for Ivan.

 

 

[Schulz2.0 29012]

[CHIEF 5095]

4 hours ago, The Dog said:

It’s actually HIMARS

That looked like one of those giant shotgun shell bombs with the 186,000 tungsten BBs.

CHIEF

[The Dog 44160]

2 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

That looked like one of those giant shotgun shell bombs with the 186,000 tungsten BBs.

CHIEF

That’s exactly what they think it was.

[KYHorn 17201]

Almost too good to be true, but then again, it's Russia 

 

Edited June 11, 2023 by KYHorn

[AUS-97HORN 11824]

9 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Almost too good to be true, hit them again, it's Russia 

 

even though they dont believe in it..

 

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Edited June 11, 2023 by AUS-97HORN

[KYHorn 17201]

 

Russian lieutenant colonel Butenko was de-nazified in Ukraine.

 

  https://twitter.com/UkrainianCrew/status/1667665533532270592?t=iPxgij6i4URZyPCBP4sfUw&s=19 

 

 

[MillerEP 30501]

[MillerEP 30501]

[Chad Fuck 17806]

12 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, how's ol' Alex doing anyhow?  Haven't heard much from him lately....

 

[Rimbo 26140]

it always warms my heart when the good guys are being cagey about what's going on... opsec is gooooooood

[Schulz2.0 29012]

 

[atomheartbevo 89816]

I'm assuming this is air defense doing

From hours ago

Couple of Russians surrendering, one or more dead Russians laying around.

 

[atomheartbevo 89816]

NAFO has interesting tastes

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 hours ago, bolverk said:

Meanwhile, back further to the western end of the front.

 

The last minute of that long video for those that didn’t watch:

A Russian military leader says something to the effect of “I wouldn’t get too excited about any defenses we have managed to put up. This isn’t the main attack, they have 600 tanks waiting just behind the front.”

Please, please, please be an absolute slaughter.

[MissingInAction 25204]

I'll pause Joh Wick 4 long enough to post my personal opinion on the initial Ukraine strikes.

1. Probing.. duh

2. Training: These incredibly intelligent people learn from thier mistakes. Every disabled Bradley equals 20 more coming through.

3. Every disabled armored vehicle  will be a Training session for the next guy. 

We are witnessing greatness.

Edited June 11, 2023 by MissingInAction

[BamaATL 16593]

16 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

The last minute of that long video for those that didn’t watch:

A Russian military leader says something to the effect of “I wouldn’t get too excited about any defenses we have managed to put up. This isn’t the main attack, they have 600 tanks waiting just behind the front.”

Please, please, please be an absolute slaughter.

This looks wide enough to get a major mechanized force thru.  If they can get thru behind them, man o man would that be the best news.  Even if right now they can only get the rest of Kherson and East Zaporizhzhia this is a huge success.  Fingers crossed.  

[atomheartbevo 89816]

4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

This looks wide enough to get a major mechanized force thru.  If they can get thru behind them, man o man would that be the best news.  Even if right now they can only get the rest of Kherson and East Zaporizhzhia this is a huge success.  Fingers crossed.  

Hey, UT had an amazing ninth inning tonight, well that has nothing to do with this, but anyways, yeah, if the Ukrainians are pulling off such big moves...and every 10 or 20 km they gain moves the HIMARS and other artillery that much deeper.

[Rimbo 26140]

7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Hey, UT had an amazing ninth inning tonight, well that has nothing to do with this, but anyways, yeah, if the Ukrainians are pulling off such big moves...and every 10 or 20 km they gain moves the HIMARS and other artillery that much deeper.

I mean, seriously, fuck the trees. I don't even care if it's off-topic, that was absolutelyfuckinglegendary.

"Rebuilding year," bitches.

[atomheartbevo 89816]

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89816]

No impact here, but an interesting thing for the future - US Army just unveiled the M10 Booker, which is not a light tank, but sure looks like it, and I'm curious if Ukraine had an impact on it.

Quote

The Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF) is a U.S. Army program to procure a combat vehicle that is capable of providing mobile protected direct offensive fire capability.[1] This vehicle is considered a light tank by some sources,[2] but not according to Army officals.[3] The program is part of the Next Generation Combat Vehicle program.[4] A previous light tank development for the Army, the M8 Armored Gun System, was canceled in 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Protected_Firepower

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/06/10/us-armys-new-combat-vehicle-named-for-soldiers-killed-in-iraq-wwii/

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Stevon, a tank commander serving under Task Force 1-64 company commander Capt. Andrew Hilmes, was killed by enemy machine gun fire during the first thunder run up Highway 8 leading to the Baghdad International airport.

When both of the tank’s machine guns failed, Stevon laid down on top of the tank’s turret and fired at enemy forces with his own weapon, destroying an enemy troop carrier as it attempted to pass the tank. He continued to fire his weapon along an 8-kilometer route until he was mortally wounded.

 

Edited June 11, 2023 by atomheartbevo