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Missed this the first time, but crazy.

Rate limits and timeouts?  Yup. Twitter has been struggling for me.

 

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The documentation of the explosions reported on the Crimea bridge, the Kerch bridge. At least one part of the bridge collapsed and other parts suffered severe damage; Civilian casualties are also reported and some cars were damaged/destroyed by the explosion.

 

[InkaUtexas 25904]

Fuck yeah! @atomheartbevo this is the version a contact just sent me. Love the song! Beat me to it! 

 

[BamaATL 16593]

Traffic is good, I just hope they got the rail as well.  

[Texas Flood 1356]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

So how would the UKA have done it?  Do they have ATACMS now that can get there? Storm Shadows?  A Top Gun attack where they zoomed into missile range, launched them and bugged out?  (Don't think, just do.)

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[InkaUtexas 25904]

All the OSINT folks are all over this. Hope they dropped a span and Putin's double was on it. 

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3 minutes ago, Viper said:

 

Reportedly two explosions at 3:04 and 3:20 AM.

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28 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

All the OSINT folks are all over this. Hope they dropped a span and Putin's double was on it. 

Yeah, more supposed photos

 

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What got hit in Luhansk yesterday:

 

[Pods 7552]

A pillar being down would be awesome. That would effect both directions of traffic. 

Hope it was an ATACMS that did this, but a Storm Shadow from dear old Mummy is almost as good. 

From NATO and NAFO with love, eat shit Rooskies. 

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Video of the damaged section from the rail line.

 

[Pods 7552]

People are whining on Twitter about "civilians" possibly being killed in the strike, which is bullshit.

The Kerch bridge connects illegally occupied territory with the territory of the illegal occupier.

There are no "civilians" on the Kerch bridge, just Russian military and collaborators. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Pods

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47 minutes ago, Pods said:

A pillar being down would be awesome. That would effect both directions of traffic. 

Yep, looks like a pillar is down.  Also, sea drones if a pillar is down.  Doesn’t look like a missile coming in from above,

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Are they raiding because they think they are causing all of the smoking accidents, or are they raiding for conscription?

Either way, hope the tension continues

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If true, this is moving extremely fast

 

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SCOOP: First Satellite Image Proves NAFO Dropped The Bridge. NAFO escape craft caught by @planet

 "We've been in place for months, blending in with the colonists.

"We waited until the right moment - we wanted to troll Ruschia's power vertical just at its weakest moment.

"The coup continues, and today all those who wish to liberate Ruschia from Ruschism will receive this message in their inbox: "Leave Ukraine. You are doomed.

"Twitter is so unreliable these days," a #NAFO #FELLA revealed. "So the best way to troll Ruschia these days is by destroying its most precious military infrastructure, like Kerch Bridge."

NAFO Denies Bridge Drop Accusation. "It wasn't us," a NAFO sharksuited spokeshark told @DecodingTrolls

“Sure, we were there. But we were just admiring the bridge pylons, when they self-destructed."

A Russian trained dolphin told @CNN that several sharks were seen in the vicinity of the explosion.

@Ikea has claimed several of its shark plushies are missing.

[Pods 7552]

There once was a ship that put to sea. 

The name of the ship was the NAFO O' Tea. 

The ship was filled with cartoon dogs. 

To blow that bridge down low. 

 

Soon may the Find Out come. 

Putin fucked around now away he'll run. 

One day when the Find Out comes. 

He'll tuck his tail and go. 

 

 

[Pods 7552]

Both directions of Kerch bridge damaged. Had noticed the railing on the far side appeared to be offset on some of the previous shots posted.

It is. This video shows one side of the road has dropped at least a foot, the other direction is partially detached. Looks like the underlying pillar IS damaged, which matches what the Crimean Putler official said earlier and lines up with Ukrainian claims of using a water surface, or submarine drone. 

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Pods

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[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

Russia pulled out of grain deal because of bridge attack

https://www.ft.com/content/c0c62c3c-54fa-49c7-9d5c-53deb91bf989

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Russia has formally withdrawn from a UN-brokered deal to export Ukrainian grain across the Black Sea, potentially imperilling tens of millions of tonnes of food exports from the war-torn country. Dmitry Peskov, president Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, told reporters on Monday that the agreement had “essentially stopped” and Russia would no longer co-operate with the deal.

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by SmokeyTheBear

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4 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

because of bridge attack

 

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[Pods 7552]

1 hour ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Russia pulled out of grain deal because of bridge attack

https://www.ft.com/content/c0c62c3c-54fa-49c7-9d5c-53deb91bf989

 

Russia must have known the Kerch bridge would be attacked 9 days ago then, because they've been announcing they would pull out of the grain deal for nearly 2 weeks.

Alternatively, they are lying, because they are fucking liars. Anything Peskov says about anything is almost certainly a lie. It's quite literally his job description. 

On 7/8/2023 at 8:29 PM, Pods said:

I suspect it's Russia fucking around with the grain shipments Erdogan had brokered.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/un-aid-chief-russia-dont-chuck-away-black-sea-grain-deal-2023-07-07/

Erdogan is many things and an arrogant dick is one of them. He very much wants to be seen as a power broker, while still playing the middle as much as possible. The grain deal was critical to that perception. 

Now we see if Erdogan is going to flex nuts on Putin. I think he will. If he doesn't, he will look weak. 

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Pods

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I suspect that Russia’s method of stopping grain shipments will involve missile attacks on ports and storage facilities as well as passive anti-shipping measures like mines. I don’t think they’d start sinking ships at sea or do a standoff if Turkey decided to run escorts (unlikely, IMO). I think it will just be used as an excuse to destroy infrastructure in Odesa. 

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13 minutes ago, Pods said:

Russia must have known the Kerch bridge would be attacked 9 days ago then, because they've been announcing they would pull out of the grain deal for nearly 2 weeks.

Alternatively, they are lying, because they are fucking liars. Anything Peskov says about anything is almost certainly a lie. It's quite literally his job description. 

Now we see if Erdogan is going to flex nuts on Putin. I think he will. If he doesn't, he will look weak. 

 

Russia’s previous statements about this or any deal should be viewed as entirely unrelated to subsequent decisions about them. And entirely unrelated to their current method of thinking about any such agreement. Any time you’re watching the Kremlin, it’s good to divorce official public statements from their actual policy (aside from remarks made by VVP himself which occasionally prove extremely enlightening about his own murderous and paranoiac worldview.)
 

For the Kremlin, any deal is only useful as a tool of blackmail and extortion and so they will almost immediately begin bluffing about pulling out as soon as one is signed, especially in tumultuous circumstances.  Russia will threaten to abrogate deals it intends to keep and will swear fealty to deals they intend to break or violate depending on what they think might advance their extortion power. The Kerch Bridge doesn’t have much to do with it.

[Neonmoon 38129]

Hit it again 

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You leave South Austin's mom out of it!

[956 Worldwide 34705]

It is so FUBAR to see these clowns and gopniki splashing around as attack aircraft plunge into the ocean. For reference, Yeisk is Krasnodar Kraj, Russia across a small gulf of the Sea of Azov from Mariupol. 

 

[Gengs1 2583]

Soon with better airplanes 

 

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40 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It is so FUBAR to see these clowns and gopniki splashing around as attack aircraft plunge into the ocean. For reference, Yeisk is Krasnodar Kraj, Russia across a small gulf of the Sea of Azov from Mariupol. 

 

 

Those innertubers don't have a care in the world.

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It is so FUBAR to see these clowns and gopniki splashing around as attack aircraft plunge into the ocean. For reference, Yeisk is Krasnodar Kraj, Russia across a small gulf of the Sea of Azov from Mariupol. 

 

I like how the two guys on the raft didn't even turn around to look.

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This is a really great thread, but first, some of my own thoughts. Without going all CR, I believe that the Obama administration’s by turns idealistic and then cynical Ukraine and Russia policy was a deep miscalculation. I think much of it was driven by a misplaced desire to avoid grappling with the new post-Cold War reality. I believe a not-insignificant bit of personal vanity to ensure that his famous campaign retort to Mitch Romney about 1980s policy didn’t get proven wrong played into things. 
 

In 2014 Russia murdered 298 souls on a civilian aircraft from across NATO. They lied about who did it, and they lied about who was in the Donbas, just as they had lied about everything.  And we swallowed those murders with some mostly symbolic sanctions and took ages to firmly stand up against the Kremlin lie machine. 
 

The time called for bold and decisive action. For instance—- publicly taking Putin at his word that there were only separatists and no Russians fighting and announcing a peacekeeping deployment to protect civilians and civil aviation. Or at least, the announcement of a rotating symbolic troop presence well west of the LOC in the east as a training/advisory/deterrence mission, or rotating NATO fixed wing units to air police behind the LOC. 

 

Russia will not reward you no matter what choices you make, but will respect or cower in the face of bold action.  For too long, we let ourselves believe the Medvedev that went to get a Ray’s Hell Burger represented something meaningful in Russia. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I suspect that Russia’s method of stopping grain shipments will involve missile attacks on ports and storage facilities as well as passive anti-shipping measures like mines. I don’t think they’d start sinking ships at sea or do a standoff if Turkey decided to run escorts (unlikely, IMO). I think it will just be used as an excuse to destroy infrastructure in Odesa. 

Yeah, sinking grain ships at sea is one of those things that will hurt them a little bit amongst their few remaining allies.  Especially among the African nations as well as China, who needs stability in that area as well as lower food prices.

.  Crazy that Ukrainian ground forces were talking about some new event when it was really the bridge   

And I think people were kind of sleeping on the idea of Ukraine doing something big on the MH17 anniversary   

 

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[kevwun 15774]

Here's to hoping F16's finish off the Kerch bridge with JDAM's in a couple of months.

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So it looks like the Kerch bridge is not damaged beyond repair.  Is that because the UKA sees benefit in only damaging it?  Or do they  WANT to take it all the way out, but can't?

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Marine drones are not an ideal weapon to take out the bridge pillars.  They can't go fast enough to lend any force to the explosion since they can't penetrate the pillars before exploding.  The best way to take it out is with a concentrated strike from jets or ATACMS.  It needs to be hit hard from above in multiple spots.  Storm Shadows could also do it, but it would take a large number of them because they are slow enough to be tracked and shot down.

Edited July 17, 2023 by kevwun

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8 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Marine drones are not an ideal weapon to take out the bridge pillars.  They can't go fast enough to lend any force to the explosion since they can't penetrate the pillars before exploding.  The best way to take it out is with a concentrated strike from jets or ATACMS.  It needs to be hit hard from above in multiple spots.  Storm Shadows could also do it, but it would take a large number of them because they are slow enough to be tracked and shot down.

I am sure that the air defenses around the bridge are significant.

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16 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

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" ...the competent authorities swore that ordinary people have nothing to fear, that now combat dolphins, medusas, shrimps and plankton guard the bridge 50 hours a day.  F**k, how did that happen? !!!!!! Did they screw up again? !!!!!!!!"

What Combat Plankton doing?

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20 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This is a really great thread, but first, some of my own thoughts. Without going all CR, I believe that the Obama administration’s by turns idealistic and then cynical Ukraine and Russia policy was a deep miscalculation. I think much of it was driven by a misplaced desire to avoid grappling with the new post-Cold War reality. I believe a not-insignificant bit of personal vanity to ensure that his famous campaign retort to Mitch Romney about 1980s policy didn’t get proven wrong played into things. 
 

In 2014 Russia murdered 298 souls on a civilian aircraft from across NATO. They lied about who did it, and they lied about who was in the Donbas, just as they had lied about everything.  And we swallowed those murders with some mostly symbolic sanctions and took ages to firmly stand up against the Kremlin lie machine. 
 

The time called for bold and decisive action. For instance—- publicly taking Putin at his word that there were only separatists and no Russians fighting and announcing a peacekeeping deployment to protect civilians and civil aviation. Or at least, the announcement of a rotating symbolic troop presence well west of the LOC in the east as a training/advisory/deterrence mission, or rotating NATO fixed wing units to air police behind the LOC. 

 

Russia will not reward you no matter what choices you make, but will respect or cower in the face of bold action.  For too long, we let ourselves believe the Medvedev that went to get a Ray’s Hell Burger represented something meaningful in Russia. 

 

 

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I almost wrote something similar in the Dark Brandon thread, but didn’t want to derail the thread. The 2014 response to Russia was a grim failure of the Obama administration and Biden was sitting 2nd chair for that. When discussing on TOS, a lot of people were of the opinion that “we shouldn’t start WW3 over Crimea and East Ukraine.” Others, myself included, were of the opinion that it was only the beginning, appeasement never works, and we should learn from history and punch this bully in the mouth now then rather than wait for more damage to be done. 
 

The price we now pay for waiting is catastrophic. And we now know that Russia is a paper bear and would have been absolutely rolled out of Ukraine with very little heartache. We also now know that drawing a hard line and setting the terms up front for when NATO would intervene has kept any nuclear threat in check, as well. If there was ever a time for a Russian collapse and a push for dismantling their nuclear arsenal, it will be coming at the tail end of a Ukrainian victory. 

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What Combat Plankton doing?

Trying to steal the recipe for Krabby Patties

[Neonmoon 38129]

32 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So it looks like the Kerch bridge is not damaged beyond repair.  Is that because the UKA sees benefit in only damaging it?  Or do they  WANT to take it all the way out, but can't?

Ukraine does not want a connection to Russia. They will continue attacking it until it's gone. 

30 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Marine drones are not an ideal weapon to take out the bridge pillars.  They can't go fast enough to lend any force to the explosion since they can't penetrate the pillars before exploding.  The best way to take it out is with a concentrated strike from jets or ATACMS.  It needs to be hit hard from above in multiple spots.  Storm Shadows could also do it, but it would take a large number of them because they are slow enough to be tracked and shot down.

 

21 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I am sure that the air defenses around the bridge are significant.

Correct. There is a shit ton of air defenses around the Kerch as without it, Crimea is cut off. I believe UKA sent storm shadows in the past couple weeks, but they were shot down by air defenses. There were videos circulating about it. 

So they tried a different method that has fewer defenses. 

 

[wildcat09 29349]

Combat Shrimp would make a great minor league baseball team name.