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[Schulz2.0 28,951]

Pretty disappointing from the current administration. Hard to argue they haven't botched the aid response with the slow rollout of HIMARS, ATACMS, etc.

 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,976]

F that. 

[locodos 5,387]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Pretty disappointing from the current administration. Hard to argue they haven't botched the aid response with the slow rollout of HIMARS, ATACMS, etc.

 

I have thoughts about this, I disagree given the political climate and affiliations of political parties.  But that's a discussion for CR

[Bevo 13,576]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Pretty disappointing from the current administration. Hard to argue they haven't botched the aid response with the slow rollout of HIMARS, ATACMS, etc.

 

 

So when are the F16s arriving, after the negotiations?

[B00M 6,415]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Pretty disappointing from the current administration. Hard to argue they haven't botched the aid response with the slow rollout of HIMARS, ATACMS, etc.

 

Between Ukraine calling this a stalemate, admitting they don’t have any major offensive the rest of the year, and now this peace negotiation bullshit, are we playing some psychological game?

[BamaATL 16,593]

1 hour ago, locodos said:

I have thoughts about this, I disagree given the political climate and affiliations of political parties.  But that's a discussion for CR

I'm not buying this, at least not yet.  I don't think if this were true Biden would be threatening to veto Israel funding without the package, additionally, I don't think he would have publicly asserted the need for $60 billion prior.  Right now it looks DOA in the House, but leverage exists with the shutdown and Israel still looming.  They have to explore all contingencies, so that part I get.  The next two weeks in Congress may well determine the course.   

[Foggy Notion 1,202]

 

[BamaATL 16,593]

Interesting, begs the question why not six months ago, but ok

 

 

[Parliament 14,257]

So in the event of a negotiated truce, is Russia gonna make the UKA get rid of their western weapons?  This is stupid.  Stupid.

[InkaUtexas 25,918]

I don't think they give up the weapons. It will be about land control, demilitarizing the border, and Russia getting any Black Sea fuel they want. Add to that guarantees of no NATO membership. 

And all of that won't work well for Ukraine. 

[BamaATL 16,593]

 

Reports of a Corvette becoming a submarine.  

[atomheartbevo 89,657]

5 hours ago, B00M said:

Between Ukraine calling this a stalemate, admitting they don’t have any major offensive the rest of the year, and now this peace negotiation bullshit, are we playing some psychological game?

Pscyhological.  When we hemmed and hawed and it looks like ATACMS might not happen for a while, boom, Ukraine hits a couple of Russian close-air-support/supply airbases. It seems to be a constant pattern with Ukraine as well.  "No more offensives the rest of the year" means they have something cooking.

And Putin is holding off on mass mobilizations until after the elections, most likely April (and that maybe when he finally hits up Moscow/St. Petersburg).  Ukraine not going to pass that up.

[Superhero 8,830]

The NATO response was/is infuriating at best. Hemming and hawing about old MiGs, tanks, long range missiles, F-16s, etc.

 I know there is no obligation for NATO to help, but if you’re gonna help, then REALLY help instead of holding your dick hoping things will turn out okay. 

[Claire Voyant 14]

6 hours ago, B00M said:

Between Ukraine calling this a stalemate, admitting they don’t have any major offensive the rest of the year, and now this peace negotiation bullshit, are we playing some psychological game?

Or there is a possibility that the reality presented and believed here is incongruent with the reality on the ground.

[MillerEP 30,455]

Not sure I believe the news that the West is pressuring for a ceasefire. I imagine it's just another PR blitz by the Kremlin, as the sources have been vague.

That's not to say I'll be surprised if it was true. I totally think they would abandon them if convenient, but the timing is a bit off.

Edited November 4, 2023 by MillerEP

[Chopper 17,230]

8 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I'm not buying this, at least not yet.  I don't think if this were true Biden would be threatening to veto Israel funding without the package, additionally, I don't think he would have publicly asserted the need for $60 billion prior.  Right now it looks DOA in the House, but leverage exists with the shutdown and Israel still looming.  They have to explore all contingencies, so that part I get.  The next two weeks in Congress may well determine the course.   

Yeah, I'd agree. The headline is "Broach topic of peace negotiations" which is about as meaningless as it gets. I mainly interpret it as NBC News just wanting to make some headlines. If there's a subplot message it was sent by someone to try light a fire under congressional UKR allies because the landscape there has changed dramatically in the past couple weeks..

[vtaenz 601]

3 hours ago, Claire Voyant said:

Or there is a possibility that the reality presented and believed here is incongruent with the reality on the ground.

the sock is back

[B00M 6,415]

3 hours ago, Claire Voyant said:

Or there is a possibility that the reality presented and believed here is incongruent with the reality on the ground.

You mean that an outmanned, outgunned, allegedly overmatched country has reclaimed most of the territory taken from them from a hostile invader and fought them to a stalemate while their supporters slow rolled material support? That reality? Give these tough mother fuckers the good shit in 2024 and watch Russia fold. Air superiority is there for the taking. Russia is a fucking joke, sorry if you have family there or something. 

[B00M 6,415]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Pscyhological.  When we hemmed and hawed and it looks like ATACMS might not happen for a while, boom, Ukraine hits a couple of Russian close-air-support/supply airbases. It seems to be a constant pattern with Ukraine as well.  "No more offensives the rest of the year" means they have something cooking.

And Putin is holding off on mass mobilizations until after the elections, most likely April (and that maybe when he finally hits up Moscow/St. Petersburg).  Ukraine not going to pass that up.

That beach head across the dnipro is still there and steady growing. That really appears to be a soft underbelly if they can get heavy equipment across. 

[Brisketexan 105,115]

the sock is back

He’ll hit us with his one-two punch soon enough: Russia is just defending itself, and the West should align with them as defenders of Christianity, and the only thing that can save us all is….CRYPTO!

[Gatorubet 30,233]

1 hour ago, vtaenz said:

the sock is back

I think Elton John phrased it better. 

[Bevo 13,576]

 I was just watching Lord of the Rings. It would have been a lot easier if Gandalf would have just negotiated a peace. Give Sauron Rohan, Rivendell, Gondor, Dale and the Ring. And let humans and the hobbits keep Arnor and the Shire. It will all work out.

[Brisketexan 105,115]

Huh. Just saw a story about how Mark Hamill did the spoken word (English) air raid warning for the Ukrainian air raid app. When he gives the all-clear, he ends with “may the force be with you.”

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-star-wars-luke-hamill-app-08ec03bf1a2c9c0378857090079f00f9

Good stuff from a good dude.

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

 

[Gatorubet 30,233]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Quote

On the missile attack in Kerch: there was information that a small missile ship "Askold" received at least three arrivals

This carrier of cruise missiles "Caliber" is one of the newest and most modern ships of the Russian Federation. It was laid down in 2016 just at the Kerch Shipyard "Zaliv", and was launched only in 2021.

To understand, in addition to 8 launchers for "Calibers" it has its own air defense system - "Pantsir-M" air defense system and "Orlan-10" UAV complex for reconnaissance.

So sayeth Siri

Edit: What Pantsir- M air defense system doing?

Edited November 5, 2023 by Gatorubet

[BamaATL 16,593]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

well it was capable.  

[InkaUtexas 25,918]

Meanwhile, the latest in Russian nuke propaganda.

 

 

[tx 3 putt 76,928]

 

[KYHorn 17,046]

 

[Zonahorn 8,079]

 

Fireworks

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

9 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

Fireworks

Down near Mariupol.

[Pato del Muerto 52,491]

15 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Meanwhile, the latest in Russian nuke propaganda.

 

 

If that’s really how complicated their nuclear weapons are, what are the odds that they actually work?

[InkaUtexas 25,918]

Reported Odessa. 

 

[InkaUtexas 25,918]

This morning. I like this guy.... 

 

[Chad Fuck 17,673]

This morning. I like this guy.... 
 

That is the guy for this time and this job.

[Nivek 16,926]

So easy to support someone like this.

[SydneyCarton 48,087]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

So easy to support someone like this.

Apparently not if you're Claire Voyant/GRUHorn. 

@blacklab The russian troll is back. 

[blacklab 11,928]

Nivek is the russian troll?

[SydneyCarton 48,087]

26 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Nivek is the russian troll?

I mean, it would explain a lot. But no, I meant @Claire Voyant who is the guy you've had to ban from this thread like 2-3 times now. 

[TexasEd 8,066]

On 11/4/2023 at 11:02 PM, InkaUtexas said:

Meanwhile, the latest in Russian nuke propaganda.

 

 

 

20 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If that’s really how complicated their nuclear weapons are, what are the odds that they actually work?

Looks more like a video game capture or something from T2 Judgement Day

[956 Worldwide 34,709]

22 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If that’s really how complicated their nuclear weapons are, what are the odds that they actually work?

There’s some artistic license for drama but it’s pretty much how a MIRVd ICBM works.  We still have a few hundred but the Russians REALLY love them and I’d expect more as they keep pulling out of arms control.

It’s a mature technology. The Russians have many of these. I’d not count on them all breaking. 

[BamaATL 16,593]

Just a bit of Bondo and some elbow grease, should be fine

 

[Zonahorn 8,079]

15 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Just a bit of Bondo and some elbow grease, should be fine

 

Just a scratch

[Brisketexan 105,115]

16 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Just a bit of Bondo and some elbow grease, should be fine

 

As a part coonass, I have 100% fished from a boat in worse condition.

[BamaATL 16,593]

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As a part coonass, I have 100% fished from a boat in worse condition.

I will say this, it's fairly amazing what you can accomplish with some duct tape and marine paint.  

[bolverk 29,671]

Video has come out

 

[BamaATL 16,593]

1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Video has come out

 

Pavel used to work on the docks...

[MillerEP 30,455]

 

[B00M 6,415]

23 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If that’s really how complicated their nuclear weapons are, what are the odds that they actually work?

Independent Russian news outlet (Sirena?) has allegedly reported that at least 6 Russian ballistic missile tests have been unsuccessful since June 30… these are tests that the west can monitor so you know Russia is using their best hardware to try to avoid embarrassment and look capable. 

[MillerEP 30,455]