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5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

I mean good. Russia hasn't adhered to any fucking treaty ever. Staying the high road doesn't mean jack all in a fight. At the very least they get that a real fight doesn't have rules. Looks like Poland (like everyone else) recognizes it and is doing something about it because someone has to be first.

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Pretty big story coming out of Czechia about a Russian influence operation using a "fake news" website and paying off a bunch of EU parliamentarians. It sounds like it's far-reaching. The Poles also made a raid yesterday, and it sounds like several other countries are also investigating cases of espionage.

You might recognize Viktor Medvedchuk from earlier in the war when he was arrested in Ukraine. The whole story sounds familiar, given that European elections are coming up, and the Kremlin has been doing this shit across the West for the last decade at least.

 

Czechs Accuse Men of ‘Russian Influence Operation’ in Europe
Amid news reports that European politicians received payments to promote Russian interests, the Czech government froze the assets of the men and a website, Voice of Europe.

The Czech Republic has frozen the assets of two men and a news website it accuses of running an influence operation in Europe that supports “the foreign policy interests of the Russian Federation,” the country’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The ministry identified the men as Viktor Medvedchuk, a high-profile, pro-Russian Ukrainian politician and the leader of the effort, and Artem Marchevskyi, a Ukrainian-Israeli citizen who allegedly ran the website, the Czech-registered Voice of Europe. Long known as an ally of the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, Mr. Medvedchuk was arrested in Ukraine and handed over to Russia in a prisoner exchange in 2022.

“We cracked down on a Russian influence operation that was directed by Viktor Medvedchuk directly from Russia,” Jan Lipavsky, the Czech foreign minister, said in a statement. “The aim was to spread pro-Russian narratives undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty while infiltrating the European Parliament.”

While the Czech authorities refused to provide immediate comment on how expansive the effort was or how richly financed, officials promised further revelations.

“Actions in other countries will follow,” the Czech prime minister, Petr Fiala, said on social media, adding that the recent actions were “the result of international cooperation.”

Citing unnamed intelligence sources, the Czech news media reported that politicians from Germany, France, Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands and Hungary had been paid by the Voice of Europe to promote Russian interests in the European Parliament.

The Belgian prime minister, Alexander De Croo, lent substance to those reports, saying in the Belgian Parliament on Thursday that “close collaboration” between the Belgian and Czech intelligence services had found that “Russia has approached” and “paid” lawmakers in the European Parliament to “promote Russian propaganda.”

According to Der Spiegel, the prominent German news outlet, one of the politicians who received financial compensation was Petr Bystron, a German lawmaker from the far-right Alternative for Germany party.

The revelations come as the European Union is bracing for more foreign interference before European Parliament elections less than three months from now. Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the bloc has been a firm supporter of Kyiv, sending aid worth billions of dollars to help the country sustain itself and fend off Russian attacks and making the Parliament a ripe target for the Kremlin, analysts say.

 

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“This is not very surprising and confirms what we have suspected: The Kremlin is using dodgy outlets pretending to be media, it is using money to buy covert influence in an attempt to swing public opinion in the E.U. and meddle in elections,” said Vera Jourova, the bloc’s commissioner for values. Ms. Jourova, a Czech citizen, has been calling for the bloc to take a more active stance against Russia’s interference. “We can’t afford to be one step behind Putin and his propaganda army on the chess board,” she said.

Neither Mr. Medvedchuk nor Mr. Marchevskyi could immediately be reached for comment. Voice of Europe, whose website has been taken down since the Czech sanctions, did not respond to a message sent through the social media site X.

The European Parliament is one of the three key institutions of the European Union, although it is widely considered the least powerful. Its 705 members, elected in their home countries and serving five-year terms, do not initiate legislation, but their approval is usually required to pass it. They can also censure the European Commission, the European Union’s executive arm, and play an often high-profile role in scrutinizing the bloc’s policies.

Despite their limited institutional power, European lawmakers are often approached by lobbyists from nations, industries and interest groups seeking to influence public opinion and to gain allies in important policy debates.

In its account on X, Voice of Europe, which last posted on March 27, described itself as a source of “uncensored network news from Europe and the world.” However, a review of the X account turned up a potpourri of right-wing conspiracy theories, like purported statistics on sexual crimes committed by migrants, the harm done by Covid-19 lockdowns and “globalist censorship” imposed by the European Union.

The Voice of Europe’s YouTube page features interviews with prominent European politicians from far-right parties in Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and the Netherlands. Sample headlines have included: “China — not Russia — is the primary threat to the West,” “Germany is constantly pressured into escalating the war in Ukraine,” “Peace negotiations should also respect Russian interests” and “Nations states should be monocultural.”

In a related case, Polish security officials said in a statement on Thursday that they had raided several locations and seized about $88,000 in cash, as well as hard drives and phones, as part of an investigation into “espionage activities for the Russian Federation directed against states and bodies of the European Union.”

The raids were an outgrowth of an earlier investigation into a Polish citizen accused of spying for Russia who has been active in the European Parliament, the Polish authorities said.

The man, identified by Polish officials as Janusz Niedzwiecki, was accused this year of “performing tasks commissioned and financed by Russian intelligence collaborators.” Those included, according to the Internal Security Agency, “propaganda, disinformation activities and political provocations,” with the goal of “building Russian spheres of influence in Europe.”

Mr. Niedzwiecki operated from 2016 until his arrest in 2021 in Poland and other E.U. countries as well as in Azerbaijan, Ukraine and Moldova, the intelligence services said in a statement issued after the earlier investigation.

According to internal records reviewed by The New York Times, Mr. Niedzwiecki secured a badge giving him access to the European Parliament through Maximilian Krah, a German far-right lawmaker in the European Parliament who has been featured on the Voice of Europe’s YouTube page. Under the Parliament’s rules, lawmakers can request up to four such badges for people like family members, drivers, experts, advisers and private tutors.

Mr. Niedzwiecki made good use of the privilege: Internal parliamentary records show that he visited the Parliament at least 50 times on the badge from Mr. Krah until his arrest in May 2021.

Asked about Mr. Krah’s connections to Mr. Niedzwiecki, Mr. Krah’s office said: “There was no indication in 2019 that the aforementioned person might be connected to any such activities. The badge was issued to Mr. Niedzwiecki upon recommendation from friends within the party.”

Mr. Krah has a history of making pro-Russian statements and voting against parliamentary resolutions condemning Russia. He was among the lawmakers who declined to declare Russia a “state sponsor of terrorism” over the war in Ukraine in November 2022.

Following the Russian full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Mr. Krah wrote on social media, “The sleepwalkers in Berlin and Brussels are leading us into a foreign war — without rhyme, reason or purpose!”

At a parliamentary debate on the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border in December 2021, Mr. Krah said: “Whoever accepts Ukraine into NATO is provoking, whether we like it or not — I don’t like it either — the Russian attack. And now ask yourself whether you are prepared to accept war for Ukraine’s NATO membership.”

Last year, Mr. Krah, 47, created outrage in Berlin over German news media reports that he had received payments from China through one of his parliamentary assistants. The politician has sent messages praising the founding of the Communist People’s Republic of China and has also been openly critical of reports on the internment and exploitation of Uighurs, which he has called “anti-China” propaganda.

In Germany, Mr. Krah is seen as a close ally of one of the most extreme AfD leaders, Björn Höcke, who is under surveillance by domestic intelligence services and is facing trial next month for using Nazi slogans.

A spokesman for the president of the European Parliament, Roberta Metsola, said that Ms. Metsola was “aware of the allegations being made” and “looking into specific allegations.”

While the extent of the apparent Russian influence operation remains unknown, its exposure represents an important “blow against the Russian propaganda apparatus,” Nancy Faeser, Germany’s interior minister, told Der Spiegel. The network, she said, “exerts illegitimate influence on the European Parliament on behalf of Russia” and “uses politicians from several European countries and provides considerable financial resources.”

She added that the revelations showed “the massive extent of the lies and disinformation” that the Kremlin employed to “shake trust in our democracy, stir up anger and manipulate public opinion.”

 

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1 hour ago, vtaenz said:

I mean good. Russia hasn't adhered to any fucking treaty ever. Staying the high road doesn't mean jack all in a fight. At the very least they get that a real fight doesn't have rules. Looks like Poland (like everyone else) recognizes it and is doing something about it because someone has to be first.

We announced our own suspension in November, along with other NATO Allies.  Russia formally withdrew. Today’s move is just Duda formally codifying that suspension in a law the Sejm sent to him. It’s a big deal but has been in the works for some time and was predicated by Russia’s formal withdrawal. 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Pretty big story coming out of Czechia about a Russian influence operation using a "fake news" website and paying off a bunch of EU parliamentarians. It sounds like it's far-reaching. The Poles also made a raid yesterday, and it sounds like several other countries are also investigating cases of espionage.

You might recognize Viktor Medvedchuk from earlier in the war when he was arrested in Ukraine. The whole story sounds familiar, given that European elections are coming up, and the Kremlin has been doing this shit across the West for the last decade at least.

 

Czechs Accuse Men of ‘Russian Influence Operation’ in Europe
Amid news reports that European politicians received payments to promote Russian interests, the Czech government froze the assets of the men and a website, Voice of Europe.

The Czech Republic has frozen the assets of two men and a news website it accuses of running an influence operation in Europe that supports “the foreign policy interests of the Russian Federation,” the country’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The ministry identified the men as Viktor Medvedchuk, a high-profile, pro-Russian Ukrainian politician and the leader of the effort, and Artem Marchevskyi, a Ukrainian-Israeli citizen who allegedly ran the website, the Czech-registered Voice of Europe. Long known as an ally of the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, Mr. Medvedchuk was arrested in Ukraine and handed over to Russia in a prisoner exchange in 2022.

“We cracked down on a Russian influence operation that was directed by Viktor Medvedchuk directly from Russia,” Jan Lipavsky, the Czech foreign minister, said in a statement. “The aim was to spread pro-Russian narratives undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty while infiltrating the European Parliament.”

While the Czech authorities refused to provide immediate comment on how expansive the effort was or how richly financed, officials promised further revelations.

“Actions in other countries will follow,” the Czech prime minister, Petr Fiala, said on social media, adding that the recent actions were “the result of international cooperation.”

Citing unnamed intelligence sources, the Czech news media reported that politicians from Germany, France, Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands and Hungary had been paid by the Voice of Europe to promote Russian interests in the European Parliament.

The Belgian prime minister, Alexander De Croo, lent substance to those reports, saying in the Belgian Parliament on Thursday that “close collaboration” between the Belgian and Czech intelligence services had found that “Russia has approached” and “paid” lawmakers in the European Parliament to “promote Russian propaganda.”

According to Der Spiegel, the prominent German news outlet, one of the politicians who received financial compensation was Petr Bystron, a German lawmaker from the far-right Alternative for Germany party.

The revelations come as the European Union is bracing for more foreign interference before European Parliament elections less than three months from now. Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the bloc has been a firm supporter of Kyiv, sending aid worth billions of dollars to help the country sustain itself and fend off Russian attacks and making the Parliament a ripe target for the Kremlin, analysts say.

 

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“This is not very surprising and confirms what we have suspected: The Kremlin is using dodgy outlets pretending to be media, it is using money to buy covert influence in an attempt to swing public opinion in the E.U. and meddle in elections,” said Vera Jourova, the bloc’s commissioner for values. Ms. Jourova, a Czech citizen, has been calling for the bloc to take a more active stance against Russia’s interference. “We can’t afford to be one step behind Putin and his propaganda army on the chess board,” she said.

Neither Mr. Medvedchuk nor Mr. Marchevskyi could immediately be reached for comment. Voice of Europe, whose website has been taken down since the Czech sanctions, did not respond to a message sent through the social media site X.

The European Parliament is one of the three key institutions of the European Union, although it is widely considered the least powerful. Its 705 members, elected in their home countries and serving five-year terms, do not initiate legislation, but their approval is usually required to pass it. They can also censure the European Commission, the European Union’s executive arm, and play an often high-profile role in scrutinizing the bloc’s policies.

Despite their limited institutional power, European lawmakers are often approached by lobbyists from nations, industries and interest groups seeking to influence public opinion and to gain allies in important policy debates.

In its account on X, Voice of Europe, which last posted on March 27, described itself as a source of “uncensored network news from Europe and the world.” However, a review of the X account turned up a potpourri of right-wing conspiracy theories, like purported statistics on sexual crimes committed by migrants, the harm done by Covid-19 lockdowns and “globalist censorship” imposed by the European Union.

The Voice of Europe’s YouTube page features interviews with prominent European politicians from far-right parties in Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and the Netherlands. Sample headlines have included: “China — not Russia — is the primary threat to the West,” “Germany is constantly pressured into escalating the war in Ukraine,” “Peace negotiations should also respect Russian interests” and “Nations states should be monocultural.”

In a related case, Polish security officials said in a statement on Thursday that they had raided several locations and seized about $88,000 in cash, as well as hard drives and phones, as part of an investigation into “espionage activities for the Russian Federation directed against states and bodies of the European Union.”

The raids were an outgrowth of an earlier investigation into a Polish citizen accused of spying for Russia who has been active in the European Parliament, the Polish authorities said.

The man, identified by Polish officials as Janusz Niedzwiecki, was accused this year of “performing tasks commissioned and financed by Russian intelligence collaborators.” Those included, according to the Internal Security Agency, “propaganda, disinformation activities and political provocations,” with the goal of “building Russian spheres of influence in Europe.”

Mr. Niedzwiecki operated from 2016 until his arrest in 2021 in Poland and other E.U. countries as well as in Azerbaijan, Ukraine and Moldova, the intelligence services said in a statement issued after the earlier investigation.

According to internal records reviewed by The New York Times, Mr. Niedzwiecki secured a badge giving him access to the European Parliament through Maximilian Krah, a German far-right lawmaker in the European Parliament who has been featured on the Voice of Europe’s YouTube page. Under the Parliament’s rules, lawmakers can request up to four such badges for people like family members, drivers, experts, advisers and private tutors.

Mr. Niedzwiecki made good use of the privilege: Internal parliamentary records show that he visited the Parliament at least 50 times on the badge from Mr. Krah until his arrest in May 2021.

Asked about Mr. Krah’s connections to Mr. Niedzwiecki, Mr. Krah’s office said: “There was no indication in 2019 that the aforementioned person might be connected to any such activities. The badge was issued to Mr. Niedzwiecki upon recommendation from friends within the party.”

Mr. Krah has a history of making pro-Russian statements and voting against parliamentary resolutions condemning Russia. He was among the lawmakers who declined to declare Russia a “state sponsor of terrorism” over the war in Ukraine in November 2022.

Following the Russian full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Mr. Krah wrote on social media, “The sleepwalkers in Berlin and Brussels are leading us into a foreign war — without rhyme, reason or purpose!”

At a parliamentary debate on the situation at the Russian-Ukrainian border in December 2021, Mr. Krah said: “Whoever accepts Ukraine into NATO is provoking, whether we like it or not — I don’t like it either — the Russian attack. And now ask yourself whether you are prepared to accept war for Ukraine’s NATO membership.”

Last year, Mr. Krah, 47, created outrage in Berlin over German news media reports that he had received payments from China through one of his parliamentary assistants. The politician has sent messages praising the founding of the Communist People’s Republic of China and has also been openly critical of reports on the internment and exploitation of Uighurs, which he has called “anti-China” propaganda.

In Germany, Mr. Krah is seen as a close ally of one of the most extreme AfD leaders, Björn Höcke, who is under surveillance by domestic intelligence services and is facing trial next month for using Nazi slogans.

A spokesman for the president of the European Parliament, Roberta Metsola, said that Ms. Metsola was “aware of the allegations being made” and “looking into specific allegations.”

While the extent of the apparent Russian influence operation remains unknown, its exposure represents an important “blow against the Russian propaganda apparatus,” Nancy Faeser, Germany’s interior minister, told Der Spiegel. The network, she said, “exerts illegitimate influence on the European Parliament on behalf of Russia” and “uses politicians from several European countries and provides considerable financial resources.”

She added that the revelations showed “the massive extent of the lies and disinformation” that the Kremlin employed to “shake trust in our democracy, stir up anger and manipulate public opinion.”

 

Negative points for using “Czechia,” LOL.

This is going to roil the EP and provoke some uncomfortable questions. It’s good to throw a spotlight on this but Russian activities in the gray zone will continue.  Budapest and Bratislava are the current safer harbors in the EU. 

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I don’t follow this all that much, but every time I pop in there are dozens of new videos of drones that anyone can get from Walmart blowing up expensive tanks or other expensive or stationary devices. Are we going to come out of this with a shift away from expensive tanks and other ground units?

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16 minutes ago, UT_OB1 said:

I don’t follow this all that much, but every time I pop in there are dozens of new videos of drones that anyone can get from Walmart blowing up expensive tanks or other expensive or stationary devices. Are we going to come out of this with a shift away from expensive tanks and other ground units?

we had better come out of this with anti-drone targeting technology, basically a large auto shotgun with roughly 150-200 foot effective range. plus of course some variation of radio wave blockers to make a radius of roughly 400 feet where drone radio waves are blocked. 

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Just a few days after a Russian missile crossed into Polish airspace.

NATO’s Romania finds likely drone debris on its land near Ukraine border
Authorities are investigating.

Romania said Friday it found what appears to be debris from a drone on an island on the Danube river on its territory near the Ukrainian border, where Russia regularly launches assaults on Ukraine's port infrastructure.

"On the evening of March 28, 2024, fragments were identified that appear to come from an aerial device (drone), on an agricultural field in the Great Brăila Island," Romania’s defense ministry said in a statement.

The origin of the drone has not yet been identified. Romania's defense ministry said authorities will be conducting an investigation into the remains Friday.

Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu said the probable drone crash wasn't the first occurrence, but he hoped it would be "the last.”

“At the moment we have no casualties and no such problems,” he said, Romanian media reported. “We hope that they will be, I repeat, as small as possible, or to avoid these events as much as possible.”

Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, regularly attacks Ukrainian ports in its southwest region, close to the border with NATO member Romania.

This wouldn't be the first time that explosives fired during Russian President Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine have landed in foreign countries, including EU and NATO members.

In November 2022, NATO held crisis talks after a missile landed in Poland, though U.S. President Joe Biden later said it was unlikely to have been fired from Russia.

In September 2023, another Russian drone was found on Romanian soil near the Danube river, triggering fury from Romanian officials. Soon after, Bulgaria, also a NATO member, reported finding a kamikaze drone on its territory, but could not confirm its origins.

As a NATO member, Romania is protected under Article 5 of the military alliance’s treaties, which says that an attack on one member will be considered an attack on all members.

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1 hour ago, UT_OB1 said:

I don’t follow this all that much, but every time I pop in there are dozens of new videos of drones that anyone can get from Walmart blowing up expensive tanks or other expensive or stationary devices. Are we going to come out of this with a shift away from expensive tanks and other ground units?

The short answer is that this is going to be a bigger problem for smaller NATO Allies that have to square off against Russia’s forward deployed mass and stop an initial onslaught.  We will be fighting a very different war. We would be foolish not to take notes and adjust but tanks and artillery still have a place.  We are also seeing the extreme value of strategic aviation and the ability to disrupt the adversary on their home field, the extreme importance of long-range fires (we need to get better at this) and that artillery remains the Lord of War. 

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Russian Telegram channels shared more details about the Russian aircraft that crashed yesterday in Crimea.

Reportedly, it was a Su-27 and it was shot down by the Russian Pantsir anti-aircraft missile-gun system. For some unknown reason, the air defense did not receive notification of the departure of their Su-27.

Because the Pantsir system's combat crew did not receive a response from the Su-27 pilot to its interrogation, a decision was made to fire the plane for effect. As it became known later, the system's crew interrogation did not reach the Su-27 pilot because the IFF interrogator on the Pantsir system was not working correctly.

Some Russian media called this a "technical deficiency."

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21 hours ago, statsman said:

I hate being so cynical, but an answer I heard to the question of “what’s in it for the U.S., bearing the lion’s share of NATO funding?” Was “Because, after two horrific world wars started on that continent, the last thing we need is for those assholes to start building up their militaries and start trying to be bullies in international affairs again”. 

But, maybe there is something to it. 

21 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

There's more than "something" to it.  There's a crapton to it.  We learned a brutal lesson, the hard way, TWICE last fucking century.  Apparently, we're going to have to touch that hot stove again.  Because we are very, very, very, very stupid.

If you want to be truly cynical, and just look at dollars and cents, the EU is our largest trading/investment partner.  If something happens to them, it turbo-fucks our economy, so It’s in our best economic interest to make sure Russia knows not to move beyond Ukraine.

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1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

Russian Telegram channels shared more details about the Russian aircraft that crashed yesterday in Crimea.

Reportedly, it was a Su-27 and it was shot down by the Russian Pantsir anti-aircraft missile-gun system. For some unknown reason, the air defense did not receive notification of the departure of their Su-27.

Because the Pantsir system's combat crew did not receive a response from the Su-27 pilot to its interrogation, a decision was made to fire the plane for effect. As it became known later, the system's crew interrogation did not reach the Su-27 pilot because the IFF interrogator on the Pantsir system was not working correctly.

Some Russian media called this a "technical deficiency."

Am I a bad person for being happy that none of the videos I watched showed a pilot eject?

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14 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

I don’t follow this all that much, but every time I pop in there are dozens of new videos of drones that anyone can get from Walmart blowing up expensive tanks or other expensive or stationary devices. Are we going to come out of this with a shift away from expensive tanks and other ground units?

Check this out for a glimpse: Speaking at the 2024 AFA Warfare Symposium, Gen. James Hecker described what the U.S. has learned from unmanned aerial vehicles—or UAVs—in Ukraine, and how they will change warfare. 

He’s kind of a big deal https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/1152399/james-b-hecker/

 

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ISIS and their ilk have been using drones for 15+ years now. Flying IED’s into FOB’s and whatnot has been a calling card for a good while. As shitty as it sounds, the more prominent and dangerous threat to our home turf is a Heath Ledger in The Joker type; someone with no specific affiliation or allegiance that just wants to watch the world burn. A fuck the establishment type, which seem to be increasing in number by the day. People with affiliations and agendas are much easier to spot and keep an eye on.

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47 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Check this out for a glimpse: Speaking at the 2024 AFA Warfare Symposium, Gen. James Hecker described what the U.S. has learned from unmanned aerial vehicles—or UAVs—in Ukraine, and how they will change warfare. 

He’s kind of a big deal https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/1152399/james-b-hecker/

 

Is this the one from a couple weeks ago where he talks about how they use cell phones to listen for drones? 

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45 minutes ago, B00M said:

Is this the one from a couple weeks ago where he talks about how they use cell phones to listen for drones? 

Yes, and overall he probably only speaks for a couple of minutes. - We need to combat low cost drones and we need to develop low cost weapons systems.

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2 hours ago, Herbie Hancock said:

the more prominent and dangerous threat to our home turf is a Heath Ledger in The Joker type; someone with no specific affiliation or allegiance that just wants to watch the world burn. A fuck the establishment type,

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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Check this out for a glimpse: Speaking at the 2024 AFA Warfare Symposium, Gen. James Hecker described what the U.S. has learned from unmanned aerial vehicles—or UAVs—in Ukraine, and how they will change warfare. 

He’s kind of a big deal https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/1152399/james-b-hecker/

 

furk - DT not CR

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13 hours ago, B00M said:

Is this the one from a couple weeks ago where he talks about how they use cell phones to listen for drones? 

Yeah, and I'd love to see the longer version, but there's clearly a keen awareness of how Ukraine is doing it, and how we need to be thinking about this stuff more (especially the cost ratio).  Here in Austin, the US Army is probably studying this stuff at their future warfare center at UT.

The whole distributed systems thing, with cheap sensors (such as the cell phone setup he mentions) and being able to flood the zone with cheaper defensive (or offensive) systems is going to be huge going forward, given that the US has spent a lot of time and money on the whole shock-and-awe thing.

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1 hour ago, RPM said:

40 yo French armored ought to be up to Russian specs.

hell at this point a M60 tank (went active service in '59) would give Russia a serious run for their money right now.  Russia only have a hyper limited number of main battle tanks larger than the T72 left, we've seen the T55s being put back into service. 

The M60 went head-to-head against the T62 in the Yom Kippur war in '73, and came out signficantly ahead. 

 

as of right now Russia doesnt have a single active APC that has a gun large enough to take out a M60 (although RPG, or anti tank weapons would). 

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11 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

The M60 went head-to-head against the T62 in the Yom Kippur war in '73, and came out signficantly ahead. 

as of right now Russia doesnt have a single active APC that has a gun large enough to take out a M60

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Drones and javelins have neutralized MBT effectiveness. It's an evolving battlefield. Until Russian MBTs can have some sort of drone killer tech they are sitting ducks. That leaves the Javelins to contend with. Ain't that a shame.

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56 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

"Several days before the terrorist attack in Russia, Tehran shared with Moscow information about a possible major terrorist attack inside Russia, which was obtained during interrogations of those arrested in connection with the explosions in Iran, which led to casualties," said one of the agency’s interlocutors.

So did Russia just let it happen so they could blame Ukraine?  Or are they simply that incompetent?

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