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[Parliament 14,249]

37 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

So they just fling that bomb up in the air and bug out to avoid SAM's.  Guys on the ground have the target painted with a laser, bomb picks up the reflection and...

[KYHorn 17,017]

 Let me check if Ivan is alri... Oh shit, better go back to my hiding spot 

 

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1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

 

 

 

[elfenix 34,228]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

 

[Trey3216 15,345]

21 hours ago, utee94 said:

Agreed, very cool.

I would hate to be one of the teams playing against Ukraine.  But they're all competitors and the best way to respect them and honor them, is to play as tough as you can.

Yep.  There was a very real possibility in '22 that the US would have been playing Ukraine in the Group Stage of the WC had Ukraine not lost their final play in match.  Would've been one of the only times I've ever cheered for a draw.  

[Trey3216 15,345]

19 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

That would be crazy, and not sure what Lil Kim will do when some of his better-trained units start dying in large numbers.  He has nothing to lose, given the sanctions against him, other than manpower.

They aren’t going to be “rebuilding” anything either, at least anything civilian-related. They are probably there because they are trained and know how to use Soviet equipment, and they are probably going to be helping with bridging/river work and setting up fortifications.

I think the bigger thing is that this shows how poorly-trained Russia’s military is right now and that they are struggling for cannon fodder.  Relying on North Korea to fill their engineering shortage means that Russia is unable to spend the time to properly train engineers/sappers/etc.   When they round up hundreds of thousands of conscripts, there are going to be plenty of men with some kind of training that’s conducive to being a combat engineer, but they are instead sending them to the front.   That’s some desperation right there.

 

At least the Norks are used to not eating regularly...

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

[/url]  Let me check if Ivan is alri... Oh shit, better go back to my hiding spot 
 

Brutal.

Also tough shit.

[AUS-97HORN 11,757]

not to get all depressing here, but I foresee in the very near future (3 or less years) an entire slew of PTSD Ukrainian drone pilots.

 

I get that they have absolutely got to stop the threat, and that Russian troops just keep coming, but psychologically there is a massive difference between a soldier shooting at an enemy or a group of enemies, and seeing a few of them fall- even ones you aimed at, but being able to have a little spot in your mind saying "theres a chance that guy wasnt hurt bad, and even if he was, someone else killed him"  and being able to process that as someone you might not have killed....

vs now, when the drone operator sees their target in high definition, and then kamikaze's into that target, boom and it never moves again.  there is zero chance the operators mind doesnt categorize that as a person they directly killed.   and yes... there is that 5% of the population that can do that over and over again without any mental remorse... maybe another 75% that can totally rationalize it and set it aside in their mind.   but that other 20% is where you start having the upticks of suicide's.

even the POS German's Einzatsgruppen had to stop using their individual kill squads that they started using in '39 and '40 that were executing "undesirables"... its the reason the Germans ended up with the final solution because 1. using bullets was getting expensive. and 2. their execution squad suicide rates were 20x higher than any other army units.

 

I want to be wrong, but I really, really hope Ukraine has these guys talking to psychiatrists every 2 weeks or so... they have got to defend their homeland, but this has got to be wearing heavily on their minds. 

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

 

An aside on this - they only did this a few times with the B-47.  They proved it could be done, but then they realize the maneuver was putting too much stress on the airframes and significantly decreasing their service lives.  So no practice toss bombing anymore.

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

8 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

not to get all depressing here, but I foresee in the very near future (3 or less years) an entire slew of PTSD Ukrainian drone pilots.

 

I get that they have absolutely got to stop the threat, and that Russian troops just keep coming, but psychologically there is a massive difference between a soldier shooting at an enemy or a group of enemies, and seeing a few of them fall- even ones you aimed at, but being able to have a little spot in your mind saying "theres a chance that guy wasnt hurt bad, and even if he was, someone else killed him"  and being able to process that as someone you might not have killed....

vs now, when the drone operator sees their target in high definition, and then kamikaze's into that target, boom and it never moves again.  there is zero chance the operators mind doesnt categorize that as a person they directly killed.   and yes... there is that 5% of the population that can do that over and over again without any mental remorse... maybe another 75% that can totally rationalize it and set it aside in their mind.   but that other 20% is where you start having the upticks of suicide's.

even the POS German's Einzatsgruppen had to stop using their individual kill squads that they started using in '39 and '40 that were executing "undesirables"... its the reason the Germans ended up with the final solution because 1. using bullets was getting expensive. and 2. their execution squad suicide rates were 20x higher than any other army units.

 

I want to be wrong, but I really, really hope Ukraine has these guys talking to psychiatrists every 2 weeks or so... they have got to defend their homeland, but this has got to be wearing heavily on their minds. 

Yup.  No matter how many times you call people "orcs" to justify killing them, deep down you know you're still killing people.  It doesn't negate the necessity, but it doesn't negate the psychological effects either. 

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8 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Yup.  No matter how many times you call people "orcs" to justify killing them, deep down you know you're still killing people.  It doesn't negate the necessity, but it doesn't negate the psychological effects either. 

Orcs are fictional monsters. They can’t hold a candle to the natural human ability for monstrous behavior. 😢 

[Brisketexan 105,086]

19 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

not to get all depressing here, but I foresee in the very near future (3 or less years) an entire slew of PTSD Ukrainian drone pilots.

 

I get that they have absolutely got to stop the threat, and that Russian troops just keep coming, but psychologically there is a massive difference between a soldier shooting at an enemy or a group of enemies, and seeing a few of them fall- even ones you aimed at, but being able to have a little spot in your mind saying "theres a chance that guy wasnt hurt bad, and even if he was, someone else killed him"  and being able to process that as someone you might not have killed....

vs now, when the drone operator sees their target in high definition, and then kamikaze's into that target, boom and it never moves again.  there is zero chance the operators mind doesnt categorize that as a person they directly killed.   and yes... there is that 5% of the population that can do that over and over again without any mental remorse... maybe another 75% that can totally rationalize it and set it aside in their mind.   but that other 20% is where you start having the upticks of suicide's.

even the POS German's Einzatsgruppen had to stop using their individual kill squads that they started using in '39 and '40 that were executing "undesirables"... its the reason the Germans ended up with the final solution because 1. using bullets was getting expensive. and 2. their execution squad suicide rates were 20x higher than any other army units.

 

I want to be wrong, but I really, really hope Ukraine has these guys talking to psychiatrists every 2 weeks or so... they have got to defend their homeland, but this has got to be wearing heavily on their minds. 

 

9 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Yup.  No matter how many times you call people "orcs" to justify killing them, deep down you know you're still killing people.  It doesn't negate the necessity, but it doesn't negate the psychological effects either. 

TLDR; "War is hell."

Always has been, always will be.  It's why pieces of shit like Putin shouldn't fucking start shit like this.  But we live in a world where pieces of shit end up in positions of power....and start shit like this.  Or different shit that also ends in warfare.

Killing thousands of Russians sucks.

But not killing them, and letting them overrun your country, depriving everyone in it of a future of self-determination, and also committing a parade of horrors in the process, sucks even more.

"War" is often the second-shittiest option, right ahead of "not fighting back."

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

Orcs are fictional monsters. They can’t hold a candle to the natural human ability for monstrous behavior.  

True story.

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3 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

At least the Norks are used to not eating regularly...

Oh they’ll be eating regularly.  The Russians don’t retrieve their dead very quickly. 

2 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

vs now, when the drone operator sees their target in high definition, and then kamikaze's into that target, boom and it never moves again.  there is zero chance the operators mind doesnt categorize that as a person they directly killed.   and yes... there is that 5% of the population that can do that over and over again without any mental remorse...

maybe another 75% that can totally rationalize it and set it aside in their mind.   but that other 20% is where you start having the upticks of suicide's

I think plenty of people will have absolutely no problem killing Russians with drones - you are talking about blips on a TV screen, and if you don’t remove those blips from the battlefield, they could harm your human wife or human mother.  In fact, it might even turn into a videogame in and of itself with many people. There are probably some people who have human feelings though, so they might be bothered.

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

[MagicSoccerSpray 1,732]

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/27/people-schizotypy-personality-traits-likely-share-disinformation-21117455/

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[KYHorn 17,017]

More on the Patriots: 

 

[CHIEF 5,079]

1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

More on the Patriots: 

 

CHIEF

[Bevo 13,573]

50 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

CHIEF

Probably involves some upgraded air defense to Israel.

[MillerEP 30,449]

https://www.threads.net/@meanwhile_in_ua/post/C8vjP6wqf3B/?xmt=AQGzudXW9loRwq-W3fjm9qdhgUXxfoQLueR1uK0Xn7zNsw

Russians Felt the Military ASSISTANCE of Ukrainian Allies on their Own Skin

https://www.threads.net/@kyivindependent_official/post/C8vswN6Mp54/?xmt=AQGzyQBLOReLuOPx3YY0RYr_3EfZbMU-kWrGwZuIyeoCow

️Drone hits oil depot in Tambov Oblast, Russian official says.

The drone hit the facility at 4:35 a.m. local time and caused a small fire, according to Governor Maksym Yegorov.

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https://www.threads.net/@nickmelnick.osint/post/C8u-a4fgFKW/?xmt=AQGzV4NOik2DlQz3aeVHv5BMRSdKqdFWfnEhyvD_KlYuTQ

️ The sitcom "FPV Drones of the 47th Brigade and Russian Infantry" continues.

^GRAPHIC one, “hey don’t lose your head mate”


https://www.threads.net/@nickmelnick.osint/post/C8soRRXIQt4/?xmt=AQGzAk_lkLTflgwc3WdIYz9OUgza4xa6-HdLr5IBfx30FA

️ It took two kamikaze drones to take out this orc.

Notice that this Russian was stopping the bleeding from his first wound using a modern tourniquet. This indicates that he was a fairly experienced fighter who bought his own first aid supplies, as the Russian army still uses Esmarch tourniquets.

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

Wtf

 

[Orale 1,087]

29 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Wtf

 

Boop!

[ConferenceRoom 6,141]

He'll never do that again. 

[Captainant 27,644]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Wtf

 

They could have at least pushed him out of the window of the car, jeeze

[Foosters 17,846]

in russia, car drive on people

[Storm the Field 5,294]

21 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/27/people-schizotypy-personality-traits-likely-share-disinformation-21117455/

There was a nearly identical study that came out during the heyday of Q-Anon back in 2018 that showed a very similar result.

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New research by Josh Hart, associate professor of psychology, suggests that people with certain personality traits and cognitive styles are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories.

"These people tend to be more suspicious, untrusting, eccentric, needing to feel special, with a tendency to regard the world as an inherently dangerous place," Hart said. "They are also more likely to detect meaningful patterns where they might not exist. People who are reluctant to believe in conspiracy theories tend to have the opposite qualities."

Our results clearly showed that the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief was a constellation of personality characteristics collectively referred to as 'schizotypy,' Hart said.

 

The trait borrows its name from schizophrenia, but it does not imply a clinical diagnosis.

Hart's study also showed that conspiracists had distinct cognitive tendencies: they were more likely than nonbelievers to judge nonsensical statements as profound.

In turn, they were more likely to say that nonhuman objects -- triangle shapes moving around on a computer screen -- were acting intentionally.

"In other words, they inferred meaning and motive where others would not," he said.

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52,487]

3 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Wtf

 

Good thing he was wearing a helmet.  That could have been bad.  

Edited June 28 by Pato del Muerto

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[Brisketexan 105,086]

9 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Austria was, is, and will always be ENTHUSIASTICALLY pro-fascist.  It's a shitty, shitty country.

Edited June 28 by Brisketexan

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

5 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Armenia, eh?  That's epic NATO trolling.  Guess Putin will have to reconsider his self-ownage reality of being surrounded by NATO.  Finland and Sweden send hugs and kisses too.

[Brisketexan 105,086]

10 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Armenia, eh?  That's epic NATO trolling.  Guess Putin will have to reconsider his self-ownage reality of being surrounded by NATO.  Finland and Sweden send hugs and kisses too.

Yeah......except Armenia doesn't bring much of anything to the table.  Their most potent weapon system is Kim Kardashian's ass.

Edited June 28 by Brisketexan

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3 hours ago, Captainant said:

They could have at least pushed him out of the window of the car, jeeze

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Good thing he was wearing a helmet.  That could have been bad.  

Imagine if the last time thing to go through your mind was a Lada.

If you’re from Boston, it’s not this kind of Ladda either.

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

30 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah......except Armenia doesn't bring much of anything to the table.  Their most potent weapon system is Kim Kardashian's ass.

Who gives a shit?  It's not about what they're bringing to the table. 

It's about them sitting at our table and not his.

[Brisketexan 105,086]

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Who gives a shit?  It's not about what they're bringing to the table. 

It's about them sitting at our table and not his.

Well, it invites the complication of them sitting at "our" table next to our ally Turkey....and, ummm, Turkey and Armenia kinda totally hate each other.  So, that's a fun table now.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, it invites the complication of them sitting at "our" table next to our ally Turkey....and, ummm, Turkey and Armenia kinda totally hate each other.  So, that's a fun table now.

While it’s more about breaking up the CSTO, we could be throwing our weight around as well - Turkey isn’t interested in cratering their economy by joining with North Korea and Russia (especially now that NATO and Ukraine are going to be dominating the Black Sea). This could be us….I don’t want to say putting them in their place, but us just saying that we don’t give a shit about past issues, we have bigger fish to fry.

[Parliament 14,249]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

I presume this summit includes Northrop, General Dynamic, etc having lavish hospitality rooms filled with expensive food and prostitutes?

[Dahobbs 17,529]

9 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I presume this summit includes Northrop, General Dynamic, etc having lavish hospitality rooms filled with expensive food and prostitutes?

So move the summit to Amsterdam? 

[AUS-97HORN 11,757]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

kinda confused...

fucknut doesnt need to reopen the death penalty.  all he has to do is send everyone who qualfies for the DP to Ukraine as a conscript.   that will kill them PDQ.   problem solved. no DP used, Pooty gets bonus points from all his sycophants

Edited June 28 by AUS-97HORN
*spellin is hurd

[Pescado_Rojo 19,416]

50 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, it invites the complication of them sitting at "our" table next to our ally Turkey....and, ummm, Turkey and Armenia kinda totally hate each other.  So, that's a fun table now.

Sounds like Christmas with young Rojo's family. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,416]

31 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I presume this summit includes Northrop, General Dynamic, etc having lavish hospitality rooms filled with expensive food and prostitutes?

I too would like to attend this NATO summit.

[Nivek 16,923]

I presume this summit includes Northrop, General Dynamic, etc having lavish hospitality rooms filled with expensive food and prostitutes?

Can we switch that to food and expensive prostitutes?

[Chad Fuck 17,664]

Well, it invites the complication of them sitting at "our" table next to our ally Turkey....and, ummm, Turkey and Armenia kinda totally hate each other.  So, that's a fun table now.

Turkey has been playing too cute by half for a while now. They’ve stfu now they’ve seen how badly Russias military hardware has performed. They know they’re better in team nato than without and they’ll just have to deal with the consequences of their own actions. They need to sit down and take their lumps.

[George 491]

4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah......except Armenia doesn't bring much of anything to the table.  Their most potent weapon system is Kim Kardashian's ass.

That ass could get elected president…

[B00M 6,414]

I just can’t wait until the Norks that get sent end up at the front line, get exposed to candy and porn, and immediately defect to the west 

[CHIEF 5,079]

57 minutes ago, B00M said:

I just can’t wait until the Norks that get sent end up at the front line, get exposed to candy and porn, and immediately defect to the west 

It's gonna be like a holiday for them, never better. All of the cats, rats, stray dogs, grass, and tree bark they can eat.

CHIEF