Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[Scheiss Meister 8408]

C'mon, Joe.  Let them hit those airfields.

[Deej 76830]

Hit the Kremlin

[InkaUtexas 25983]

Hit Sochi. Well the palace there.

I mean just use the Russian arguments of either we missed or our shit sucks.

[Chad Fuck 17684]

Hit Sochi. Well the palace there.
I mean just use the Russian arguments of either we missed or our shit sucks.

Or say they used Russian tech and say, “See? Your stuff sucks!” Win win.

[B00M 6416]

Was that Putin’s response for Kursk? Kinda seems like it since it’s all they’ve got. Pathetic pieces of shit 

[Parliament 14260]

Hit the CEO’s and boards of directors of every western company with components sneaking into those Russian missiles.  Criminal charges.  Jail time.

Edited August 26 by Parliament

[atomheartbevo 89727]

1 hour ago, Scheiss Meister said:

C'mon, Joe.  Let them hit those airfields.

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Hit the Kremlin

Flooding Kyiv would be something that would probably cause the US to ditch all restrictions. And probably cause a lot more weapons to flow to Ukraine (they should already be flowing).

As for Moscow, the Ukrainians have sent a couple of drone raids their way.  They are absolutely mapping out their air defenses and helping to expend their air defenses.  They did this in Crimea a few times - send in strikes to map things out and/or wear down their air defenses and then hit some major target.  

[BearSchlong 8098]

What a tool. That statement alone is so idiotic.

“Oooh a free speech platform!!”

(Used to make people suffer and die)

(Founder gets compromised, starts looking for the ripcord)

“Grumble grumble but freedommm”

Pretty sure the right to not get shelled or your children blown up at school supersedes the right to assemble and communicate.

[Snake Diggity 4625]

It sure seems like the US is playing referee in a war between our ally and our enemy.  If we’re gonna do that, we should either say “there are no rules outside of no nukes”, in which case Ukraine can use our shit however they want with no restrictions, or we say “no attacks on civilian infrastructure from here forward” in which case we will almost certainly have to get directly involved since there’s no way Russia will comply with that.

As is stands, our ally is not able to prevent our enemy from destroying our ally’s civilian infrastructure because of limits we are imposing on them.

Edited August 26 by Snake Diggity

[Gatorubet 30246]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

FPV Drone = $1,500

Mi-8 Chopper = $18,000,000

[atomheartbevo 89727]

 

“If they were a really swept up, efficient, modern army, they would have had a mobile reserve that would have attacked already.”

[PTINS 3472]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Hey @PTINS how long is that thing gonna burn?  Seems like all of the fuel should have burned already.

 

Sorry, you already know the answer.

Until they put it out, or until there is nothing left to burn?  They probably tried the "easy" stuff already.

Dry chemicals and foam are options, but bigger fires require matching quantities, and, well, ...it's Russia.

They could empty the tanks into rail cars, but the rail facilities look to be very close to the fires.

Whatever water supply they had on site is probably gone, so having to bring water to the site is problematic. I'm guessing they don't have a large enough water line already, so building one is an option, though not timely. Bring in rail cars full of water is next, but slow, and getting the water to the fire appears to be an issue.

The fire will burn until the source is cut off. With multiple tanks burning, they cannot get enough water to control the fires. Over time, as the fires burn out in the core and spread, they may be able to put out the tank fires that are somewhat isolated, but the tanks are very close together, so ...

At some point, the tanks themselves will fail, meaning you have a large, shallow pool burning instead of just the top of the tank. The increased surface area burning closer to the ground will heat the tanks quicker, and again, they are very close together.

Black smoke is indicative of incomplete combustion, meaning there is more fuel than oxygen.  The hydrocarbons burning are greater than the air feeding the fire, and have been for 8 days. 

The one thing you never forget about watching videos of old fires and explosions is that the films survived, but the photographers? Not always.

[InkaUtexas 25983]

So basically they are screwed and it will only get worse. Ain't no Red Adaid MoFo's. 

 

[pops 7002]

Csb/ A dude I worked with a long time ago worked for one of the firms contracted to put out the well fires in Iraq after gulf war 1. His stories were pretty crazy, but those were some smart, highly technical mofos.

I know holding tanks are a whole different kettle of fish than burning gushers but I just don't see Russia having anywhere near the smarts, technical experience or equipment to handle something like this. In Russia, if it burns, it burns /csb. 

[KYHorn 17076]

Good lord. The Ukrainian Air Force reported about the huge missile and drone attack that happened this morning. A total of 236 missiles/drones were used by Russia.

Shot down:

1/3 Kinzhal Kh-47M2 aeroballistic missiles
1/6 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles
1/1 Kh-22 cruise missile
99/115 Kh-101/Kalibr/Kh-59/69 cruise missiles
99/109 Shahed drones

Given the enormous size of this attack, air defense did extremely well. 

Impossible. Sarkisian fights against the Aggies, not with them.

[InkaUtexas 25983]

They are going to love the winter.

[MillerEP 30491]

https://www.threads.net/@nickmelnick.osint/post/C_ImVdDo3WM?xmt=AQGzqvnlZflolj_x2-nnScF7W27q_fzuUKPYP0DNMzSVxQ

🇺🇦⚡️🇷🇺 A strike with two precision-guided M31 GMLRS rockets with airburst warheads on a Russian training ground.

 

https://www.threads.net/@nafo_wrangler/post/C_H6lG5qzYD?xmt=AQGzqvnlZflolj_x2-nnScF7W27q_fzuUKPYP0DNMzSVxQ

The Kursk salient continues to expand through Korenovo

[MillerEP 30491]

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/C_IsS_SNV28?xmt=AQGzqvnlZflolj_x2-nnScF7W27q_fzuUKPYP0DNMzSVxQ

Ukrainian forces, likely from the 82nd Air Assault Brigade, are clearing a village in the Kursk region on the first days of the operation. At 3:34, a Ukrainian tank withstands a "Lancet" drone strike.

 

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/C_I_A_RtXcC?xmt=AQGzqvnlZflolj_x2-nnScF7W27q_fzuUKPYP0DNMzSVxQ

A Ukrainian Mi-8 chasing a Russian Shahed drone and shooting it down, probably done by a machine gunner onboard.
 

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

So basically they are screwed and it will only get worse. Ain't no Red Adaid MoFo's. 

 

I had a relative that worked for Boots and Coots way back in the day.  He told me the standard MO except for the most high profile jobs (i.e. the first Gulf War oil fires) was to:

1.  Show up, get the invoice clock ticking.

2.  Drag out the planning and logistics arrangement processes as long as possible.

3.  Hope that the fire(s) burned itself out during step 2.

4.  Leave.

5.  Profit.

[MillerEP 30491]

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/C_IrrQ3tqGI?xmt=AQGz7Vxp8DEVDi50d673yOU5gffenog1ISSi7AVjn1XW-w

In Kursk, soldiers of the 22nd Separate Mechanized Brigade showed abandoned fortifications of the 1434th "Akhmat-Chechnya" regiment, which fled in panic during a Ukrainian advance to avoid capture.

 

https://www.threads.net/@meanwhile_in_ua/post/C_IDfgSoySA?xmt=AQGzyQGNHA0P473gtQhs41Y-9NTk8vPsBZrePLDo6p204w

Warriors of the 650th separate anti-aircraft machine gun battalion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down a Russian cruise missile on the border of Lviv and Zarakhpattya regions, the regional military administration reports.
Thank you, our heroes! 💙💛

 

[KYHorn 17076]

Odd. 

 

More work to do in the Black Sea

 

 

Edited August 26 by KYHorn

[KYHorn 17076]

 

Edited August 26 by KYHorn

[MissingInAction 25106]

Aerial drones are terrifying but the robot dogs take the horror level to 11. There you are trying to snap one off during watch and of those little bastards creeps up and blows your dick right off.

[TeeDubya 3362]

14 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

Hero.  

[atomheartbevo 89727]

So what country does Russia invade to take their refineries because it starts running low on fuel?

[BamaATL 16593]

15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So what country does Russia invade to take their refineries because it starts running low on fuel?

My guess is they will send a bunch of tankers to Rostov to send it to Iran and back.  Should make for plenty of shits and giggles when those get blown up as well.  I hope the Ukrainian DJ's can mix in "Smoke on the Water".  

[Saint Austin 745]

18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So what country does Russia invade to take their refineries because it starts running low on fuel?

[Pato del Muerto 52524]

We know where they’d go if they were low on chrome…

[TexasEd 8067]

4 hours ago, pops said:

Csb/ A dude I worked with a long time ago worked for one of the firms contracted to put out the well fires in Iraq after gulf war 1. His stories were pretty crazy, but those were some smart, highly technical mofos.

I know holding tanks are a whole different kettle of fish than burning gushers but I just don't see Russia having anywhere near the smarts, technical experience or equipment to handle something like this. In Russia, if it burns, it burns /csb. 

Why haven't the fires gone out?  They're still pumping oil into the tanks.

 

Seriously, you would think that the pipelines that feed the tanks could have been put in reverse to divert some of the contents other sites but nope.

[wd40 1976]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Flooding Kyiv would be something that would probably cause the US to ditch all restrictions. And probably cause a lot more weapons to flow to Ukraine (they should already be flowing).

As for Moscow, the Ukrainians have sent a couple of drone raids their way.  They are absolutely mapping out their air defenses and helping to expend their air defenses.  They did this in Crimea a few times - send in strikes to map things out and/or wear down their air defenses and then hit some major target.  

I'm sorry, but this is just more wish casting.  with the numbers of civilian dead, raped and tortured that we already know about, plus the continuing and increasingly massive missile and drone attacks against critical infrastructure, flooding Kyiv isn't going to make Sleepy or Sullen even blink.

the fact that the Kursk invasion owes most of its success to date to the fact they didn't tell anyone in the west/US, indicates the level of rot in or national defense at the executive level.  the same traitors whispering to putin are the same ones whispering to potus about provocation risk.

fuckingembarrassing.gif

 

[Trey3216 15347]

16 minutes ago, wd40 said:

I'm sorry, but this is just more wish casting.  with the numbers of civilian dead, raped and tortured that we already know about, plus the continuing and increasingly massive missile and drone attacks against critical infrastructure, flooding Kyiv isn't going to make Sleepy or Sullen even blink.

the fact that the Kursk invasion owes most of its success to date to the fact they didn't tell anyone in the west/US, indicates the level of rot in or national defense at the executive level.  the same traitors whispering to putin are the same ones whispering to potus about provocation risk.

fuckingembarrassing.gif

 

Or the Andrew McCarthy's of the world have more say than they ever should... 

[Parliament 14260]

1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

 

Well he was pretty much right I think.

[Parliament 14260]

24 minutes ago, wd40 said:

fuckingembarrassing.gif

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

Aerial drones are terrifying but the robot dogs take the horror level to 11. There you are trying to snap one off during watch and of those little bastards creeps up and blows your dick right off.

One of my favorite deranged moves in video game history was in one of the Far Cry games.  I picked the dog as a companion, set a remote activated satchel charge on his ass and would send him into the enemy camp.  Once he got close to a group of baddies, I would blow his ass up and laugh a lot.  I'm cool.

[InkaUtexas 25983]

1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

Aerial drones are terrifying but the robot dogs take the horror level to 11. There you are trying to snap one off during watch and of those little bastards creeps up and blows your dick right off.

What until they have bumble bee bots with explosive stingers and are programed to go after your pecker.

 

8 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

One of my favorite deranged moves in video game history was in one of the Far Cry games.  I picked the dog as a companion, set a remote activated satchel charge on his ass and would send him into the enemy camp.  Once he got close to a group of baddies, I would blow his ass up and laugh a lot.  I'm cool.

How WW2 Russian of you.

Anti-tank dogs (Russian: собаки-истребители танков sobaki-istrebiteli tankov or противотанковые собаки protivotankovye sobaki; German: Panzerabwehrhunde or Hundeminen, "dog-mines") were dogs taught to carry explosives to tanks, armored vehicles, and other military targets. They were intensively trained by the Soviet and Russian military forces between 1930 and 1946, and used from 1941 to 1943, against German tanks in World

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog

[Braff Zacklin 13618]

First the mines, then the moon.

(No, not really the moon; just low-Earth orbit.)

[BamaATL 16593]

So... what ego driven award could we lure Elon to France with?

 

[atomheartbevo 89727]

1 hour ago, wd40 said:

I'm sorry, but this is just more wish casting.  with the numbers of civilian dead, raped and tortured that we already know about, plus the continuing and increasingly massive missile and drone attacks against critical infrastructure, flooding Kyiv isn't going to make Sleepy or Sullen even blink.

Russia blowing up the Kakhovka Dam got a decent bump in military aid (helped by Russian trying to ban the UN from helping those who were flooded), and it only killed a few dozen people.

Deliberately flooding the capitol of a European country, and probably killing thousands (or more) and displacing millions would be a huge fucking deal, and here in the US would make for a great photo op to do even more for Ukraine.  In Europe, it would also increase aid.  

And China has already been quietly backing off dealing with Russia because they are worried about sanctions hitting Chinese banks - flooding out millions of civilians would kick that up a few notches.

Not that Putin wouldn't try - he's clearly living in an information bubble of sorts, but at the same time, they didn't send 20 of their best missiles at the dam, and the accuracy of Russian missiles is pretty shit, otherwise they'd be using them against targets on the battlefield to try and relieve the pressure in Kursk.

[atomheartbevo 89727]

I would toss in that if he thought he could flood Kyiv and that there would be no substantial changes in aid to Kyiv or relations with China or others, I think Putin would have tried to do it a year or two ago.  He's been in "If I can't have it, neither can you" mode for quite a while now.

[Brisketexan 105154]

I will observe that it's pretty fucking hard to blow a large dam (which this one is) with missiles like the ones Russia is sending.  They can damage it, but totally blow it?  That's hard.  However, the dam has hydrogeneration facilities, and it seems that those WERE hit.  If you think of the dam as an electric generation source that the Russians targeted (as they have done repeatedly for other generation sources), the strike makes a lot more sense. I think it was likely a strike to take out generation capacity, not a strike to blow an entire dam.

Not that the Russians wouldn't if they could, it's just a very low-percentage play with the weapons they are using.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

Maybe the UK will sell them some of those skip bombs from WWII

[atomheartbevo 89727]

Came across this, for those curious about the GMLRS video that @MillerEP posted earlier

 

 

[PTINS 3472]

7 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

So basically they are screwed and it will only get worse. Ain't no Red Adaid MoFo's.

That would be Red Adair for you young 'uns.

5 hours ago, pops said:

Csb/ A dude I worked with a long time ago worked for one of the firms contracted to put out the well fires in Iraq after gulf war 1. His stories were pretty crazy, but those were some smart, highly technical mofos.

I know holding tanks are a whole different kettle of fish than burning gushers but I just don't see Russia having anywhere near the smarts, technical experience or equipment to handle something like this. In Russia, if it burns, it burns /csb. 

A fire requires 3 things; fuel, oxygen and an ignition source. To put out the fire, remove one of the three.

Well blowouts are much less common than in times past. Most oil exploration is done via computers and data processing and not so much drilling "wildcat" wells looking for the big one. Knowing exactly where you're drilling and what you are drilling through minimizes surprises, and safeguards are in place to protect against accidents.

Fuel

In the event of a fire, one of the first things you do is shut off the fuel source. For a well, you close the valve, or deploy the blowout preventer, which may include massive shears the cut the pipe and block the well bore. If that doesn't work, call Red.

A tank fire is relatively simple compared to a well fire. You know exactly what you are dealing with, and it isn't under a 1,000 pounds of pressure.

Simple you say? Reminds me of a discussion on Simple Harmonic Motion with my physics prof (TA), in which he brought up watching a coed walking across the mall, braless. The harmonics are simple, but the motion is certainly not. And yes, I continue my research whenever the opportunity presents itself.

In this case, they built the tanks close together. Probably seemed like a good idea at the time.

In this case, isolate the tanks, or empty the tanks, or let them burn out.

Ignition Source

To put out this fire, you have to remove the debris from the fire, the red hot steel plates and piping that will reignite gas and liquids on contact. For this fire, that is damn near impossible while the fire is burning. You can't get close enough to see what to do.

Oxygen

Red used dynamite in the old days, they probably use something similar now, but more stable. The explosion consumes the oxygen and the fire goes out.

Putting out a fire by setting off explosives next to tanks full of diesel and jet fuel? Let me think about that one.

In Iraq, I know they mounted a jet engine on a skid and tried to blow out the fires. I expect they had some success, and failures. The ACME products probably worked best.

Yeah, trying to do anything, with a drone looking over your shoulder? You're fucked before you start.

1 hour ago, TexasEd said:

Why haven't the fires gone out?  They're still pumping oil into the tanks.

Seriously, you would think that the pipelines that feed the tanks could have been put in reverse to divert some of the contents other sites but nope.

Terminals are the delivery points, at the "dumb" ends of the pipelines. They typically don't have the pumps required to boost the pressure to move the products from the terminal to the pipelines. Kind of like pouring your water bottle into the garden hose to fill up your upstairs toilet.

1 of the 4 things you need to know to be an engineer; you can't pull water.

[Deej 76830]

Ukraine should target Russian vodka tanks.

[InkaUtexas 25983]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Ukraine should target Russian vodka tanks.

That would stretch Ukraine's ammo limitations for sure.

Reading a book now about the Russian Revolution and subsequent Civil War. Kennan ID'd from official sources that in Siberia had 30 taverns for every school. Now imagine what those taverns and schools were like in the 1880's. A small distillery in the same area made 3M gallons of vodka a year. In one city. In an underpopulated area. Russia gonna Russia.

It is interesting to read these books about that time and then you realize watching video outside of the major urban areas little has changed. Yeah, they have knock off European track suits and cell phones their sister brought back from her 90 day hooker stint in Dubai, but they still grow potatoes and live in squalor.

[BamaATL 16593]

Bare in mind, Russia's Defense budget is approximately 84 billion, so this morning cost them near 2% of that.  

Edited August 27 by BamaATL

[Upgrayedd 5814]

46 minutes ago, PTINS said:

1 of the 4 things you need to know to be an engineer; you can't pull water.

And you can’t push on a rope.

[RDCanecutter 26452]

4 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

Aerial drones are terrifying but the robot dogs take the horror level to 11. There you are trying to snap one off during watch and of those little bastards creeps up and blows your dick right off.

So I take it you weren't wearing your robot decoy dick.

[MissingInAction 25106]

6 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

So I take it you weren't wearing your robot decoy dick.

Not exactly.

[PTINS 3472]

10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Came across this, for those curious about the GMLRS video that @MillerEP posted earlier

 

 

Thanks for posting.

We were at Eglin AFB from '62-'66. My dad was able to take us out to the test ranges where we could see live fire exercises (Vulcan 20 mm rotary cannon), strafing runs, napalm, touch and go's.

We used to fish off the "target docks."  The Navy would coat them with napalm, and tow them out to the Gulf for target practice. Sometimes we would see the docks coated with the napalm. Good thing we weren't a bunch of fire bugs.

The "Climatic Hangar", or McKinley Climatic Laboratory, was literally the coolest thing I ever saw. They could make temperatures between -65 degrees Fahrenheit to 165 degrees Fahrenheit with a simulation of all climatic conditions including heat, snow, rain, wind, sand and dust. They made instant popsicles on Armed Force Day.