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[TeeDubya 3,362]

Just now, Parliament said:

Or a warm, Ukrainian stray dog.  (First you make a roux.)

Roux-ver?

Fi-dough?

 

[atomheartbevo 89,625]

15 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

So much for worrying about the Fulda Gap…..

I can tell you that in the early 90s, even after we saw how shitty their stuff was in the Gulf War, we were still training for the Fulda Gap. Some of it was just sheer momentum - turning the US military’s training and priorities around were not easy back then (slightly better these days) but plenty still didn’t trust them.

15 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

so, were any western military analysts knowledgeable about how truly awful Russia’s armed forces are?

56 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I think some did, but also didn't wanna risk it.  They could get the $$$ to upgrade systems we may not have needed, so why not add to our margin of error.  Also, Military-Industrial Complex.

They maybe a paper tiger now, but lest we forget, quantity still does have a quality all its own. Until the Soviet Union fell apart, we were always training and buying hardware with the mindset that we’d be outnumbered, and the Ukrainians are having to put that idea into actual practice here in 2024.

It does seem like the Ukrainians have been slowly brining that number gap down.

[Scheiss Meister 8,407]

It's easier to lose a war by underestimating your enemy than by overestimating them.  I remember talking to Gulf War veterans who told me that it was tough and real, but it was easier than training exercises that they had done.  It's always better to be prepared for the worst case.

[Deej 76,752]

11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

building architecture / design for sure 

Don't forget military prowess. 

[MissingInAction 25,005]

18 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Or a gift card from Panda Express.

They would explode.

[Bevo 13,563]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I can tell you that in the early 90s, even after we saw how shitty their stuff was in the Gulf War, we were still training for the Fulda Gap. Some of it was just sheer momentum - turning the US military’s training and priorities around were not easy back then (slightly better these days) but plenty still didn’t trust them.

They maybe a paper tiger now, but lest we forget, quantity still does have a quality all its own. Until the Soviet Union fell apart, we were always training and buying hardware with the mindset that we’d be outnumbered, and the Ukrainians are having to put that idea into actual practice here in 2024.

It does seem like the Ukrainians have been slowly brining that number gap down.

We had numbers even before Ukraine. Their guys are just more expendable.

[MillerEP 30,447]

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/DBbfyJTtv6e?xmt=AQGz4C5AM5n-MRCObJkqip7D2c0mZ7-Ks9mXfMj9y6nPHA

Reports suggest North Korea has sent fighter pilots to Russia to potentially assist in the Ukraine war, amid shortages of Russian pilots according to Newsweek. South Korean media indicated that North Korean pilots were dispatched to Vladivostok ahead of ground troop deployment.
 

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/DBbudvNtAud?xmt=AQGz4C5AM5n-MRCObJkqip7D2c0mZ7-Ks9mXfMj9y6nPHA

❗️North Korea is preparing to send 2 brigades of 6,000 soldiers to fight against Ukraine, with their training currently underway in Russia, according to President Zelensky. He called it a "challenge" but reassured that Ukraine is ready and knows how to respond to this threat.

[MillerEP 30,447]

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The Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs criticized UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres for attending the BRICS summit in Russia while declining Ukraine's invitation to the Global Peace Summit in Switzerland. The statement reads, "Accepting Putin's invitation is the wrong choice, which does not contribute to peace but damages the UN's reputation."

 

https://www.threads.net/@24hoursofukraine/post/DBbUy6mNyT3?xmt=AQGz4C5AM5n-MRCObJkqip7D2c0mZ7-Ks9mXfMj9y6nPHA

UN: 97% of Ukrainian prisoners provided consistent and detailed accounts of torture in Russian captivity. 68% reported sexual violence.

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

we need to start understanding that Feb 22 was the beginning of a non-nuclear WW3. 

I really dont understand why Biden doesnt say something to the effect of:

North Korea is an affront to all humanity. if 1 of their soldiers is found to be operating in Ukraine, every single one of Putin's residences in Russia will disappear that night in a simultaneous flash of light by an unknown detonation origin.  

and the only way to prevent a full on WW3 is to not do idle threats but literally call Putin and while talking to him let him know that every building hes ever called home just disappeared. and if they make a single movement seen as being retaliatory in nature, a 2nd wave will eliminate every fucking base within 1,000km of the West.

 

Russians understand strength and power projection. thats it.

[Parliament 14,239]

1 hour ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

https://www.threads.net/@24hoursofukraine/post/DBbUy6mNyT3?xmt=AQGz4C5AM5n-MRCObJkqip7D2c0mZ7-Ks9mXfMj9y6nPHA

UN: 97% of Ukrainian prisoners provided consistent and detailed accounts of torture in Russian captivity. 68% reported sexual violence.

Anyone who hasn’t read the book, “One Soldier’s War,” should.  It makes the actions of the Russian army in Ukraine SO much easily understood.  
The Russian army is run by, manned by, demented, depraved, soulless, Godless, heartless, heathens.  And everything is they do to Ukrainians, they do to each other as well.

[InkaUtexas 25,858]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Anyone who hasn’t read the book, “One Soldier’s War,” should.  It makes the actions of the Russian army in Ukraine SO much easily understood.  
The Russian  Russia army is run by, manned by, demented, depraved, soulless, Godless, heartless, heathens.  And everything is they do to Ukrainians, they do to each other as well.

FIFY

[KYHorn 17,013]

 

Well that's a new one. Pilots of a Russian bomber left an appeal to the Ministry of Defence written on a glide bomb complaining about lack of bonus pay for bombing their own country: "Dear Ministry of Defence, I’m FAB with UMPK. Soon I will fly to destroy occupiers in Kursk Obl. I’m upset for my crew, they have not received bonus pay for counter-terrorist operation since August. Sort it out! P.S. You can make mistakes, but you can’t lie."

 

Soon everyone will see the results of the use of Ukrainian ballistic missiles - the head of the permanent Ukrainian delegation to the NATO Parliamentary Assembly Cherniv The official commented on two Ukrainian-made missiles. Regarding "Vilkha", he stated that there are components for missiles, which, unfortunately, we cannot get quickly now. Regarding the Operational Tactical Missile Complex "Hrim", the comment is more positive: "The president has already said that our ballistic missiles have passed tests. Believe me, there will soon be concrete results that will be seen not only by Ukraine, but also by the Russian Federation," he said.

Dunno what most of this means, but it sounds catastrophic

 BREAKING Ukrainian hackers hacked Dr. WEB, a Russian IT security company 'We hacked the infrastructure of Dr.Web , a company that has long been considered one of the top cybersecurity companies. Ironic? More than that. We penetrated the local network, having planned everything from the start. After that, systematic work began - step by step we moved deeper, hacking server after server, resource after resource. In just a few days, we penetrated the most protected parts of the infrastructure. We managed to hack and unload the corporate GitLab server, where internal developments and projects were stored, the corporate mail server, Confluence, Redmine, Jenkins, Mantis, RocketChat — systems where development was carried out and tasks were discussed. All security improvement projects now seem to need protection in themselves. Software management resources were not left without attention either. Client databases. Yes, we also downloaded the data of users who trusted Dr.Web with their security. The cherry on the cake is the domain controller. Having taken possession of it, all we had to do was fill our storage devices by downloading more and more data. The total volume of data obtained was about 10 terabytes. However, the most remarkable thing is that we remained unnoticed for a whole month. While the "IS giant" continued to sell its products and talk about the importance of data protection, telling tales about an attempt to harm the infrastructure that was " timely stopped ". Expect some interesting news. We have a lot of Russian data, we continue to work on larger goals.'

Edited October 22 by KYHorn

[MillerEP 30,447]

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/DBb6HXSuZOz?xmt=AQGzNjsBdS9-_BU0hVfJKgA2HoifIOx2y92dl1kQ25-6EQ

🇹🇷 Turkey has stopped supplying Russia with U.S.-made military-related goods after Washington warned of potential consequences. The ban affects over 40 items, including electronics, machine tools, and other equipment used for weapons production.

 

https://www.threads.net/@24hoursofukraine/post/DBcQOWstkod?xmt=AQGzS3gwDrCnvrKkRdH2dxwY6MCYSqG1RJ32b3gmELDRfA

🇺🇦🇫🇷France announces it will send 12 more CAESAR self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine, funded by €300 million in interest from frozen Russian assets.

[B00M 6,413]

Why did we wait so long to tell turkey to get on board or get fucked? Why are they so interested in maintaining trade with Russia? 

[KYHorn 17,013]

4 minutes ago, B00M said:

Why did we wait so long to tell turkey to get on board or get fucked? Why are they so interested in maintaining trade with Russia? 

I'd guess for the same reasons Hungary is: partially ideological (strongmen leaders who identify with Putin and refuse to be influenced by the democratic West) and partially economic (they can get resources and goods at bargain basement prices from Russia because no one else will buy from them and they can charge Russia high prices when selling them goods because no one else will sell to them, plus hedging with Russia gives them bargaining leverage to squeeze more in diplomatic and economic ways from the West).

[InkaUtexas 25,858]

And a big ass base in Incirlik.

[KYHorn 17,013]

 

 Superpower News: Russia's major butter producers are either halting production or suspending deliveries to retail chains, while warning of impending price hikes. Since the start of the year, the cost of butter has surged by at least 25%.

"Producers are grappling with steep inflation in raw cream materials, which rose by 39% in the first half of the year. Cumulative inflation has reached 46% for the first eight months of 2024 compared to the same period last year," reported HN, the former Danone subsidiary.

Butter thefts have also been on the rise. Since late 2023, RFID tags have been appearing on butter packages in St. Petersburg, designed to alert store security in case of attempted theft.

[Chopper 17,230]

[Parliament 14,239]

Pretty sure it was Parliament (me) who proposed this.  Likely a war crime.  All in the game, yo.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2024/10/22/telegram-users-confirm-russias-alcohol-empire-targeted-by-drones/

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89,625]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

Pretty sure it was Parliament (me) who proposed this.  Likely a war crime.  All in the game, yo.

Either going to piss the Russkies off.

Or they’ll start drinking radiator fluid and end up in the hospital.

Just kidding, pretty sure their livers and kidneys can handle radiator fluid at this point.

Edited October 23 by atomheartbevo

[NorthLoop 14,181]

Going after the distilleries may be the turning point of this whole thing. 

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

2 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Going after the distilleries may be the turning point of this whole thing. 

the US and the British thought similarly when they thought that by taking out all the German  industrial base needed product manufacturers' buildings via "precision" bombing in WW2.

turned out that what the Germans did after a factory got taken out, was to take the salvagable equipment, put it in a basement,  and instead of 200 machines all being in 1 building it was now 150 machines in 150 basements scattered around a city, and the net result was ze Germans were even more efficient at making ball bearings, gears, hydraulic punch press parts, etc.

post-war analysis showed the Germans were at peak production in the war as late as March.... reminding everyone that they fucking gave up officially on May 7.

 

point of my post is... never underestimate the Russians absolute need for the wodka.  and instead of large distilleries,  10,000 babushka led stills are just going to be put into production instead.

 

[Trey3216 15,343]

26 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the US and the British thought similarly when they thought that by taking out all the German  industrial base needed product manufacturers' buildings via "precision" bombing in WW2.

turned out that what the Germans did after a factory got taken out, was to take the salvagable equipment, put it in a basement,  and instead of 200 machines all being in 1 building it was now 150 machines in 150 basements scattered around a city, and the net result was ze Germans were even more efficient at making ball bearings, gears, hydraulic punch press parts, etc.

post-war analysis showed the Germans were at peak production in the war as late as March.... reminding everyone that they fucking gave up officially on May 7.

 

point of my post is... never underestimate the Russians absolute need for the wodka.  and instead of large distilleries,  10,000 babushka led stills are just going to be put into production instead.

 

I'm sure they'll all have their technique down and not catch half the town on fire.  I appreciate/respect German engineering infinitely more than babushka distilling.  

Edited October 23 by Trey3216

[Brisketexan 105,057]

27 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

babushka distilling

Dibs on the name.  Our promoters will be super hot chicks dressed in skimpy versions of babushka outfits.

[KYHorn 17,013]

 

 

 Russia transfers technology for nuclear weapons to North Korea in exchange for people and missiles. According to the head of the Defense Intelligence Service of Ukraine, Russia is helping the DPRK circumvent sanctions and "strengthen" its nuclear capabilities. Thus, Russia is transferring some technologies for low-yield tactical nuclear weapons and underwater missile launch systems. https://censor.net/en/n3516301  

Edited October 23 by KYHorn

[KYHorn 17,013]

 

 

 Zelenskyy recorded a daily address to Ukrainians wearing a “make russia small again” T-shirt It shows a map of the Principality of Moscow from 1462, when it included Moscow, Suzdal and Vologda. On the back of the t-shirt, the size of the principality is compared to the size of the current Russian Federation. 

Edited October 23 by KYHorn

[Trey3216 15,343]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Dibs on the name.  Our promoters will be super hot chicks dressed in skimpy versions of babushka outfits.

I get 15% royalties,  counselor.  

Edited October 23 by Trey3216

[TeeDubya 3,362]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Dibs on the name.  Our promoters will be super hot chicks dressed in skimpy versions of babushka outfits.

Gonna need to see some concept proofs quick….

[Jameslaw121 4,448]

4 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the US and the British thought similarly when they thought that by taking out all the German  industrial base needed product manufacturers' buildings via "precision" bombing in WW2.

turned out that what the Germans did after a factory got taken out, was to take the salvagable equipment, put it in a basement,  and instead of 200 machines all being in 1 building it was now 150 machines in 150 basements scattered around a city, and the net result was ze Germans were even more efficient at making ball bearings, gears, hydraulic punch press parts, etc.

post-war analysis showed the Germans were at peak production in the war as late as March.... reminding everyone that they fucking gave up officially on May 7.

 

point of my post is... never underestimate the Russians absolute need for the wodka.  and instead of large distilleries,  10,000 babushka led stills are just going to be put into production instead.

 

Production is one thing. Distributing to the front lines as another. 

[Chopper 17,230]

WaPo has an article out this afternoon about the guy who's been creating deepfakes for Putin's Brain.

Discharged from the Marines at the lowest rank possible after serving only 2 years, and let go from 2 different police forces after being implicated in IA investigations, he moved to Russia, lured by an online relationship. Since then he's created fake biolabs reports, and fake reports about Ukraine, plus a bunch of "CR" stuff.

https://archive.ph/dqk3H

[BamaATL 16,593]

37 minutes ago, Jameslaw121 said:

Production is one thing. Distributing to the front lines as another. 

Honestly, I'm just hoping that they start making bath tub vodka full of impurities and they start killing themselves with it.  I get the point about cottage manufacturing earlier mentioned, and it's benefit to the Germans in WW2, but these aren't the Germans.

[BamaATL 16,593]

No clue as to veracity, but it's the first time I've seen a number of pilots

 

[General Specific 3,253]

Grain alcohol, in a bathtub, in the middle of a war zone? What could go wrong?

[bolverk 29,652]

25 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Honestly, I'm just hoping that they start making bath tub vodka full of impurities and they start killing themselves with it.  I get the point about cottage manufacturing earlier mentioned, and it's benefit to the Germans in WW2, but these aren't the Germans.

What happened to that krokodil fad in Russia from a decade or so ago that we all chatted about on the old site?

[KYHorn 17,013]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

WaPo has an article out this afternoon about the guy who's been creating deepfakes for Putin's Brain.

Discharged from the Marines at the lowest rank possible after serving only 2 years, and let go from 2 different police forces after being implicated in IA investigations, he moved to Russia, lured by an online relationship. Since then he's created fake biolabs reports, and fake reports about Ukraine, plus a bunch of "CR" stuff.

https://archive.ph/dqk3H

How did they ever figure out the GRU officer's real identity?

[KYHorn 17,013]

^disregard that. Meant to post this

 

Edited October 24 by KYHorn

[Brisketexan 105,057]

15 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

Gonna need to see some concept proofs quick….

Yeah, so.....don't google "sexy babushka"....you are NOT going to find what you want.

[Gatorubet 30,185]

12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, so.....don't google "sexy babushka"....you are NOT going to find what you want.

<mental note> put that next to the refrigerator sticky that says “don’t Google hot naked septuagenarian”

[Brisketexan 105,057]

Just now, Gatorubet said:

<mental note> put that next to the refrigerator sticky that says “don’t Google hot naked septuagenarian”

Whoa whoa whoa, slow your roll there, hombre.

[Gatorubet 30,185]

14 hours ago, BamaATL said:

 

 

I see that number includes a bunch of Night Witches

[Deej 76,752]

14 hours ago, General Specific said:

Grain alcohol, in a bathtub, in the middle of a war zone? What could go wrong?

 

[Tuco 5,076]

On 10/22/2024 at 7:59 AM, Scheiss Meister said:

It's easier to lose a war by underestimating your enemy than by overestimating them.  I remember talking to Gulf War veterans who told me that it was tough and real, but it was easier than training exercises that they had done.  It's always better to be prepared for the worst case.

My cousin served in the first Gulf War as a tank commander.  The quote I remember him saying shortly after: "the two biggest surprises were how well our stuff worked and poorly the Russian shit did.

19 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the US and the British thought similarly when they thought that by taking out all the German  industrial base needed product manufacturers' buildings via "precision" bombing in WW2.

turned out that what the Germans did after a factory got taken out, was to take the salvagable equipment, put it in a basement,  and instead of 200 machines all being in 1 building it was now 150 machines in 150 basements scattered around a city, and the net result was ze Germans were even more efficient at making ball bearings, gears, hydraulic punch press parts, etc.

post-war analysis showed the Germans were at peak production in the war as late as March.... reminding everyone that they fucking gave up officially on May 7.

 

point of my post is... never underestimate the Russians absolute need for the wodka.  and instead of large distilleries,  10,000 babushka led stills are just going to be put into production instead.

 

With all due respect, that sounds like complete bullshit.  Do you have a source on that?  It's not like there is one "machine" making ball bearings from ore to final product.  The heat treat on those little fuckers would be going through a furnace, and I doubt there were 150 smoke stacks coming up from 150 basements.  And if German production was at its max two months before their surrender, where was it all going?  It certainly wasn't into planes or ships.  And why does literally no one follow this blueprint for making product now if it is more efficient?  It sounds like one of the History Channel shows that takes some isolated metric that implies Germany was doing great, but it obviously was not. 

 

Edited October 24 by Tuco

[KYHorn 17,013]

 

Edited October 24 by KYHorn

[MissingInAction 25,005]

19 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

the US and the British thought similarly when they thought that by taking out all the German  industrial base needed product manufacturers' buildings via "precision" bombing in WW2.

turned out that what the Germans did after a factory got taken out, was to take the salvagable equipment, put it in a basement,  and instead of 200 machines all being in 1 building it was now 150 machines in 150 basements scattered around a city, and the net result was ze Germans were even more efficient at making ball bearings, gears, hydraulic punch press parts, etc.

post-war analysis showed the Germans were at peak production in the war as late as March.... reminding everyone that they fucking gave up officially on May 7.

 

point of my post is... never underestimate the Russians absolute need for the wodka.  and instead of large distilleries,  10,000 babushka led stills are just going to be put into production instead.

 

Sounds like Kentucky during prohibition.

Edited October 24 by MissingInAction
Probe

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

39 minutes ago, Tuco said:

My cousin served in the first Gulf War as a tank commander.  The quote I remember him saying shortly after: "the two biggest surprises were how well our stuff worked and poorly the Russian shit did.

With all due respect, that sounds like complete bullshit.  Do you have a source on that?  It's not like there is one "machine" making ball bearings from ore to final product.  The heat treat on those little fuckers would be going through a furnace, and I doubt there were 150 smoke stacks coming up from 150 basements.  And if German production was at its max two months before their surrender, where was it all going?  It certainly wasn't into planes or ships.  And why does literally no one follow this blueprint for making product now if it is more efficient?  It sounds like one of the History Channel shows that takes some isolated metric that implies Germany was doing great, but it obviously was not. 

 

I am taking the Ricky Bobby approach

 

with all due respect, you are completely misunderstanding the point.  you are clearly associating mfg of parts with mfg of COMPLETED war machines, like armored vehicles, planes, etc.  

I never said the Germans were building entire war machines up through March 45 I said they were able to overcome their primary mfg sites destructions by spreading out the fucking  parts to smaller shops spread all over. the basement part was a euphemism.

Reddit link showing Mfg only dropped by 5% as late as Nov of 44.

 

and there have been a lot of TV shows pointing out that it wasnt the lack of German Mfg that ended the war, it was their lack of a supply of real or synthetic oil that eventually doomed them.    Prime example when the ME-262 plants were captured, there were a literal fuckton of completed, partially completed, and new parts for the planes all over the damn place.   The Germans basically only stopped making the parts for the planes when they couldnt transfer them to the assembly plants anymore. and you can google that yourself, its well known. 

Same goes for rifles, handguns and the like. The allies captured a shitton of new-in-box rifles that had production dates in '45 stamped into the barrels,  a lot were melted down, but American soldiers were allowed to collect war trophies and a LOT of those guns- especially the brand new ones, ended up being captured and brought back to the US, which is why with a simple google search right now, you can find FFL dealers selling legit K98 Mauser's and Luger's for less than 2k

 

My point was simple- just because the main plant was destroyed didnt mean the mfg stopped.  and since we are fucking talking about vodka here, the only fucking thing holding Babuska Distilling Co. back and making more is a lack of bottles to put the completed product into for easy distribution.

 

 

 

Edited October 24 by AUS-97HORN

[Parliament 14,239]

41 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

UN gonna UN.

[Gatorubet 30,185]

Albert Speer was a fucking genius.  It was truly incredible how he kept German war production at the levels they stayed despite day and night bombing of factories and rail lines.

Asshole. 

Edited October 24 by Gatorubet

[InkaUtexas 25,858]

3 minutes ago, Parliament said:

UN gonna UN.

Plus what military does he have? People expect that pudge to arrest Putin? In russia?

[Tuco 5,076]

1 minute ago, AUS-97HORN said:

I am taking the Ricky Bobby approach

with all due respect, you are completely misunderstanding the point.  you are clearly associating mfg of parts with mfg of COMPLETED war machines, like armored vehicles, planes, etc.  

I never said the Germans were building entire war machines up through March 45 I said they were able to overcome their primary mfg sites destructions by spreading out the fucking  parts to smaller shops spread all over. the basement part was a euphemism.

 

 

 

 

No, I caught your point - the Germans were making more ball bearings than ever, and just stacking them up in boxes.  Because apparently it was a big priority to have boxes of ball bearings. Maybe they were going roll them out in front of the Russians to make them fall.  

As an experienced mechanical engineer, I just think it's nonsense.  Like I said, there is probably some metric to imply they were doing great.  They weren't. Factories have choke points, and you can't just divide a factory up into 100 smaller shops and it will work as well.  You are believing something that doesn't make sense. 

[Trey3216 15,343]

27 minutes ago, Tuco said:

No, I caught your point - the Germans were making more ball bearings than ever, and just stacking them up in boxes.  Because apparently it was a big priority to have boxes of ball bearings. Maybe they were going roll them out in front of the Russians to make them fall.  

As an experienced mechanical engineer, I just think it's nonsense.  Like I said, there is probably some metric to imply they were doing great.  They weren't. Factories have choke points, and you can't just divide a factory up into 100 smaller shops and it will work as well.  You are believing something that doesn't make sense.