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[Chad Fuck 17658]

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Bridge collapsed under overweight truck in Dzhankoi district of occupied Crimea

https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/13-november-19-bridge-collapsed-under-overweight-truck-in

[Schulz2.0 28951]

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/zelensky-nuclear-weapons-bomb-0ddjrs5hw

[AUS-97HORN 11756]

yep...

 

we all gonna die in 5 years or less.

[Bevo 13559]

3 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

yep...

 

we all gonna die in 5 years or less.

 

Maybe, or perhaps a few of us will mate with reptiles and have little Sleestak babies.

[Captainant 27620]

Our incoming director of national intelligence is staunchly anti-Ukraine, which I'm sure makes Putin very happy. 

I hate that our government will soon be calling ruzzia's invasion of Ukraine a "legitimate security concern" for ruzzia 

[AUS-97HORN 11756]

hey Tulsi

 

that is ALREADY the case and has been for more than 20 years.

 

Estonia and Latvia literally border Russia.... and have been in NATO for 20 years

Norway has a very small section of land that borders Russian and has been in NATO since 1949.

 

also, Finland and now joined NATO --- OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL because of the actions of Russia, which now means Russia's entire northern border is up against a NATO country.

[InkaUtexas 25854]

14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Our incoming director of national intelligence is staunchly anti-Ukraine, which I'm sure makes Putin very happy. 

I hate that our government will soon be calling ruzzia's invasion of Ukraine a "legitimate security concern" for ruzzia 

Yeah, about NATO on the Russian border excuse from these folks. Shall we count borders between NATO and Russia? I will start with POLAND. Yep, Kaliningrad is Russia right? And it borders who? Um, well the Poles and Lithuania. Then we can add Latvia and Estonia direct on the Russian Border. Oh, yeah, and Finland, but Russia is scared of them. And then of course we have things like this.

Georgia and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) enjoy cordial relations. Georgia is not currently a member of NATO, but has been promised by NATO to be admitted in the future. Cooperation officially began in 1994 when Georgia joined the NATO-run Partnership for Peace.

Guess time to open up this discussion in the CR.

 

AUS beat me to it.

Edited November 13 by InkaUtexas

[Viper 12097]

19 hours ago, orange dream said:

 

A little more from Hegseth on the Ukrainian war...

 

Not sure how qualified he is but if he has Michael Tracey mad, then it has to be somewhat good for Ukraine

Hoping he has more say than Tulsi Gabbard. 

Edited November 14 by Viper

[atomheartbevo 89618]

31 minutes ago, Viper said:

Hoping he has more day than Tulsi Gabbard. 

Based on 2016-2020, he'll be gone within 6 months.

One good thing is that Europe is stepping up (even if slowly), and I don't think some people like the idea of Europe one-upping them and looking stronger.

[Sawbonz 27526]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:48 AM, InkaUtexas said:

What armored vehicle carries 30 troops? Are they up armoring trucks?

[KYHorn 17003]

 

 

[KYHorn 17003]

This is an extraordinary report. 

The ‘Deathonomics’ Powering Russia’s War Machine

Payments for soldiers killed on the front lines are transforming local economies in some of Russia’s poorest regions

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia-ukraine-war-military-death-pay-6cfe936e 

Bypass pay wall: https://archive.is/6hPdu 

Some highlights: 

Spoiler

Facing heavy losses in Ukraine, Russia is offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits. In some of the country’s poorest regions, a military wage is as much as five times the average. The families of those who die on the front lines receive large compensation payments from the government.

These are life-changing sums for those left behind. Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev calculates that the family of a 35-year-old man who fights for a year and is then killed on the battlefield would receive around 14.5 million rubles, equivalent to $150,000, from his soldier’s salary and death compensation. That is more than he would have earned cumulatively working as a civilian until the age of 60 in some regions. Families are eligible for other bonuses and insurance payouts, too.

“Going to the front and being killed a year later is economically more profitable than a man’s further life,” Inozemtsev said, a phenomenon he calls “deathonomics.”

Spoiler

Now the mounting death payments are providing an injection of wealth into some of Russia’s poorest areas in return for a steady stream of soldiers for the war effort. Poverty levels are now at their lowest since data collection began in 1995, according to official statistics. Perceptions of what it means to join the military have been transformed.

Spoiler

For the Kremlin, generous payments help avoid a general mobilization of fighting-age men after a previous round in 2022 rattled the country and led many young men to flee.
“This is money that most people in these backward areas have never seen in their lifetime, so it’s little wonder that many of them accept,” said Vasily Astrov, economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. “And for the Kremlin, offering good pay for soldiers is the only way to maintain their war effort with high levels of domestic support.”

Spoiler

There is little effort to conceal the grim calculus at work.
Putin has publicly promoted the notion that dying on the front is more worthwhile than living a dire existence in Russia’s hardscrabble towns.
“Losing a loved one is a great tragedy, an unfillable void,” Putin said in a November 2022 meeting with Russian women who had lost sons in the war.
“But some people barely live, and when they die, from vodka or something else, it’s unclear how,” he said to one of the mothers. “Your son lived, you understand? He accomplished his goal.”
And some Russian officials actively promote the idea of economic gain from death in war.
“A child should understand: Yes, your father carried out a heroic act, and died, but thanks to his heroic act I have an apartment,” the governor of a region in Russia’s Far East said at a meeting to promote support for children affected by the war. “That makes children more patriotic.”

Spoiler

The money flowing to military families can also carry economic risks.
The payouts cost around 8% of state expenditures in the year to June 2024, expanding the budget deficit, according to an analysis by Re: Russia, a research group. The payouts have contributed to a high inflation rate plaguing Russia, leading the central bank to raise interest rates to near-record 21%. And more men going to the front is stoking a labor crunch, leaving employers short of welders, drivers and builders.

 

Edited November 14 by KYHorn

[Born to Run 6569]

Ah; the draft white trash first round here anyway.

 

That strategy actually works; and if Russia had doubts they only needed to look at us under Vietnam.  Same same. Start drafting kids in Manhattan or at Ivy Leauges and nam would have proceeded differently

Just now, Born to Run said:

Ah; they draft white trash first round here anyway.

 

That strategy actually works; and if Russia had doubts they only needed to look at us under Vietnam.  Same same. Start drafting kids in Manhattan or at Ivy Leauges and nam would have proceeded differently.

 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

Ah; the draft white trash first round here anyway.

Holy shit, I just looked, and he turns 70 in two months.

Edited November 14 by atomheartbevo

[KYHorn 17003]

 

 

[KYHorn 17003]

Today, starting at 14:30, the 🇷🇺Russian occupiers attempted to break through our defenses in the Kupyansk direction. Part of the Russian infantry was disguised in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - General Staff of 🇺🇦Ukraine 

The enemy assault groups attacked the positions of the Ukrainian defenders in four waves. During the attack, the enemy used about 15 units of equipment: tanks, armored combat vehicles and UR-77 "Zmey Gorynych".

All enemy equipment was destroyed, the enemy infantry was partially eliminated and dispersed.

 

Edited November 14 by KYHorn

[Parliament 14227]

11 hours ago, KYHorn said:

This is an extraordinary report. 

The ‘Deathonomics’ Powering Russia’s War Machine

Payments for soldiers killed on the front lines are transforming local economies in some of Russia’s poorest regions

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia-ukraine-war-military-death-pay-6cfe936e 

Bypass pay wall: https://archive.is/6hPdu 

Some highlights: 

  Hide contents

Facing heavy losses in Ukraine, Russia is offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits. In some of the country’s poorest regions, a military wage is as much as five times the average. The families of those who die on the front lines receive large compensation payments from the government.

These are life-changing sums for those left behind. Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev calculates that the family of a 35-year-old man who fights for a year and is then killed on the battlefield would receive around 14.5 million rubles, equivalent to $150,000, from his soldier’s salary and death compensation. That is more than he would have earned cumulatively working as a civilian until the age of 60 in some regions. Families are eligible for other bonuses and insurance payouts, too.

“Going to the front and being killed a year later is economically more profitable than a man’s further life,” Inozemtsev said, a phenomenon he calls “deathonomics.”

  Hide contents

Now the mounting death payments are providing an injection of wealth into some of Russia’s poorest areas in return for a steady stream of soldiers for the war effort. Poverty levels are now at their lowest since data collection began in 1995, according to official statistics. Perceptions of what it means to join the military have been transformed.

  Reveal hidden contents

For the Kremlin, generous payments help avoid a general mobilization of fighting-age men after a previous round in 2022 rattled the country and led many young men to flee.
“This is money that most people in these backward areas have never seen in their lifetime, so it’s little wonder that many of them accept,” said Vasily Astrov, economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. “And for the Kremlin, offering good pay for soldiers is the only way to maintain their war effort with high levels of domestic support.”

  Reveal hidden contents

There is little effort to conceal the grim calculus at work.
Putin has publicly promoted the notion that dying on the front is more worthwhile than living a dire existence in Russia’s hardscrabble towns.
“Losing a loved one is a great tragedy, an unfillable void,” Putin said in a November 2022 meeting with Russian women who had lost sons in the war.
“But some people barely live, and when they die, from vodka or something else, it’s unclear how,” he said to one of the mothers. “Your son lived, you understand? He accomplished his goal.”
And some Russian officials actively promote the idea of economic gain from death in war.
“A child should understand: Yes, your father carried out a heroic act, and died, but thanks to his heroic act I have an apartment,” the governor of a region in Russia’s Far East said at a meeting to promote support for children affected by the war. “That makes children more patriotic.”

  Reveal hidden contents

The money flowing to military families can also carry economic risks.
The payouts cost around 8% of state expenditures in the year to June 2024, expanding the budget deficit, according to an analysis by Re: Russia, a research group. The payouts have contributed to a high inflation rate plaguing Russia, leading the central bank to raise interest rates to near-record 21%. And more men going to the front is stoking a labor crunch, leaving employers short of welders, drivers and builders.

 

 But so far it’s working.  White trash Russian mothers are glad to trade their sons for $1500.

[Chad Fuck 17658]

This is an extraordinary report. 

The ‘Deathonomics’ Powering Russia’s War Machine

Payments for soldiers killed on the front lines are transforming local economies in some of Russia’s poorest regions

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia-ukraine-war-military-death-pay-6cfe936e 
Bypass pay wall: https://archive.is/6hPdu 
Some highlights: 
Spoiler

Facing heavy losses in Ukraine, Russia is offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits. In some of the country’s poorest regions, a military wage is as much as five times the average. The families of those who die on the front lines receive large compensation payments from the government.
These are life-changing sums for those left behind. Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev calculates that the family of a 35-year-old man who fights for a year and is then killed on the battlefield would receive around 14.5 million rubles, equivalent to $150,000, from his soldier’s salary and death compensation. That is more than he would have earned cumulatively working as a civilian until the age of 60 in some regions. Families are eligible for other bonuses and insurance payouts, too.
“Going to the front and being killed a year later is economically more profitable than a man’s further life,” Inozemtsev said, a phenomenon he calls “deathonomics.”

Spoiler

Now the mounting death payments are providing an injection of wealth into some of Russia’s poorest areas in return for a steady stream of soldiers for the war effort. Poverty levels are now at their lowest since data collection began in 1995, according to official statistics. Perceptions of what it means to join the military have been transformed.

Spoiler

For the Kremlin, generous payments help avoid a general mobilization of fighting-age men after a previous round in 2022 rattled the country and led many young men to flee.
“This is money that most people in these backward areas have never seen in their lifetime, so it’s little wonder that many of them accept,” said Vasily Astrov, economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. “And for the Kremlin, offering good pay for soldiers is the only way to maintain their war effort with high levels of domestic support.”

Spoiler

There is little effort to conceal the grim calculus at work.
Putin has publicly promoted the notion that dying on the front is more worthwhile than living a dire existence in Russia’s hardscrabble towns.
“Losing a loved one is a great tragedy, an unfillable void,” Putin said in a November 2022 meeting with Russian women who had lost sons in the war.
“But some people barely live, and when they die, from vodka or something else, it’s unclear how,” he said to one of the mothers. “Your son lived, you understand? He accomplished his goal.”
And some Russian officials actively promote the idea of economic gain from death in war.
“A child should understand: Yes, your father carried out a heroic act, and died, but thanks to his heroic act I have an apartment,” the governor of a region in Russia’s Far East said at a meeting to promote support for children affected by the war. “That makes children more patriotic.”

Spoiler

The money flowing to military families can also carry economic risks.
The payouts cost around 8% of state expenditures in the year to June 2024, expanding the budget deficit, according to an analysis by Re: Russia, a research group. The payouts have contributed to a high inflation rate plaguing Russia, leading the central bank to raise interest rates to near-record 21%. And more men going to the front is stoking a labor crunch, leaving employers short of welders, drivers and builders.

 

This is pretty fucking grim on a purely humanistic level. Real 1984 shit. And I’ve read some grim stuff lately.

Ah; the draft white trash first round here anyway.
 
That strategy actually works; and if Russia had doubts they only needed to look at us under Vietnam.  Same same. Start drafting kids in Manhattan or at Ivy Leauges and nam would have proceeded differently
 

Maybe they’ll come back from Ukraine with a whole new plan?

[Jameslaw121 4448]

12 hours ago, KYHorn said:

This is an extraordinary report. 

The ‘Deathonomics’ Powering Russia’s War Machine

Payments for soldiers killed on the front lines are transforming local economies in some of Russia’s poorest regions

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia-ukraine-war-military-death-pay-6cfe936e 

Bypass pay wall: https://archive.is/6hPdu 

Some highlights: 

  Reveal hidden contents

Facing heavy losses in Ukraine, Russia is offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits. In some of the country’s poorest regions, a military wage is as much as five times the average. The families of those who die on the front lines receive large compensation payments from the government.

These are life-changing sums for those left behind. Russian economist Vladislav Inozemtsev calculates that the family of a 35-year-old man who fights for a year and is then killed on the battlefield would receive around 14.5 million rubles, equivalent to $150,000, from his soldier’s salary and death compensation. That is more than he would have earned cumulatively working as a civilian until the age of 60 in some regions. Families are eligible for other bonuses and insurance payouts, too.

“Going to the front and being killed a year later is economically more profitable than a man’s further life,” Inozemtsev said, a phenomenon he calls “deathonomics.”

  Reveal hidden contents

Now the mounting death payments are providing an injection of wealth into some of Russia’s poorest areas in return for a steady stream of soldiers for the war effort. Poverty levels are now at their lowest since data collection began in 1995, according to official statistics. Perceptions of what it means to join the military have been transformed.

  Reveal hidden contents

For the Kremlin, generous payments help avoid a general mobilization of fighting-age men after a previous round in 2022 rattled the country and led many young men to flee.
“This is money that most people in these backward areas have never seen in their lifetime, so it’s little wonder that many of them accept,” said Vasily Astrov, economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. “And for the Kremlin, offering good pay for soldiers is the only way to maintain their war effort with high levels of domestic support.”

  Reveal hidden contents

There is little effort to conceal the grim calculus at work.
Putin has publicly promoted the notion that dying on the front is more worthwhile than living a dire existence in Russia’s hardscrabble towns.
“Losing a loved one is a great tragedy, an unfillable void,” Putin said in a November 2022 meeting with Russian women who had lost sons in the war.
“But some people barely live, and when they die, from vodka or something else, it’s unclear how,” he said to one of the mothers. “Your son lived, you understand? He accomplished his goal.”
And some Russian officials actively promote the idea of economic gain from death in war.
“A child should understand: Yes, your father carried out a heroic act, and died, but thanks to his heroic act I have an apartment,” the governor of a region in Russia’s Far East said at a meeting to promote support for children affected by the war. “That makes children more patriotic.”

  Reveal hidden contents

The money flowing to military families can also carry economic risks.
The payouts cost around 8% of state expenditures in the year to June 2024, expanding the budget deficit, according to an analysis by Re: Russia, a research group. The payouts have contributed to a high inflation rate plaguing Russia, leading the central bank to raise interest rates to near-record 21%. And more men going to the front is stoking a labor crunch, leaving employers short of welders, drivers and builders.

 

So, kinda like the GI Bill. Only death instead of college. Got it

[atomheartbevo 89618]

23 minutes ago, Jameslaw121 said:

So, kinda like the GI Bill. Only death instead of college. Got it

New Ladas for the whole family.  And they can now afford washing machines and toilets that weren't looted from Ukraine.

That's still one of the most stunning images of the war that doesn't involve bloodshed - Russians looting washing machines and toilets and strapping them to vehicles to take back to Mother Russia.

[Captainant 27620]

It does warm my heart to see Ukraine still taking it to the orks

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/11/13/a-ukrainian-leopard-2-tank-met-a-russian-armored-column-head-on-and-wrecked-it/

Quote

 

To surround the eastern fortress city of Pokrovsk from the south, Russian forces first have to roll back Ukrainian defenses in Kurakhove, a village on the bank of the Vovcha River 18 miles south of Pokrovsk in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk Oblast.

The Ukrainian army’s 33rd Mechanized Brigade and its German-made Leopard 2A4 tanks stand in their way. On Monday, a powerful Russian force rolled toward Dalnje, just south of Kurakhove, clearly aiming to fight its way through the former in order to bypass and cut off the latter.

Well-aimed cannon fire from the 61-ton, four-person Leopard 2A4s—31 of which equip the 33rd Mechanized Brigade’s tank battalion—put a quick stop to the Russian assault. As a Ukrainian drone observed from overhead, at least one Leopard 2A4 firing armor-piercing rounds shot holes through two Russian tanks, an armored personnel carrier and several other vehicles. Ukrainian drones chased after the survivors.

“Effective work just blows the heads off the enemies,” the 33rd Mechanized Brigade crowed.

...

The 33rd Mechanized Brigade’s up-armored Leopard 2A4s were anything but cautious on Monday. They fought close—and won. It helped the Ukrainian tankers that the Russian column was led by two “turtle tanks” fitted with bulky anti-drone armor that obscures the crews’ visibility and also prevents the tanks’ turrets from rotating.

“Limited visibility and engagement options once you ‘turtled’ your tank—and suddenly you find yourself in an engagement with a Leo 2,” quipped open-source intelligence analyst Moklasen.

 

[Sawbonz 27526]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

 But so far it’s working.  White trash Russian mothers are glad to trade their sons for $1500.

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17658]

3 hours ago, Parliament said:

 But so far it’s working.  White trash Russian mothers are glad to trade their sons for $1500.

[BurntEyes 5955]

20 hours ago, Bevo said:

 

Maybe, or perhaps a few of us will mate with reptiles and have little Sleestak babies.

Is there Sleestak and/or Land of the Lost porn hiding out there on the internet.

Asking for a friend

Edited November 14 by BurntEyes

[Brisketexan 105043]

Just now, BurntEyes said:

Is there Sleestak and/or Land of the Lost porn hiding out there on the internet.

Asking for a friend

Dude.

You aren't asking.

You're TELLING.

And from you, that comes as no surprise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links?

[Deej 76750]

2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Is there Sleestak and/or Land of the Lost porn hiding out there on the internet.

Asking for a friend

That's her butt plug, isn't it?

[Trey3216 15343]

1 minute ago, Deej said:

That's her butt plug, isn't it?

Go check the 'butts that grip' subreddit  

[SquishMitten 10403]

1 hour ago, Trey3216 said:

Go check the 'butts that grip' subreddit  

[mchookem 16318]

22 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

yep...

 

we all gonna die in 5 years or less.

 

[Schulz2.0 28951]

Russia cutting payments to those injured in Ukraine.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-troops-losses-1985722

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

On 11/13/2024 at 1:18 PM, Chad Fuck said:

https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/13-november-19-bridge-collapsed-under-overweight-truck-in

[Chopper 17228]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

New Ladas for the whole family.  And they can now afford washing machines and toilets that weren't looted from Ukraine.

That's still one of the most stunning images of the war that doesn't involve bloodshed - Russians looting washing machines and toilets and strapping them to vehicles to take back to Mother Russia.

Reminds me of a story I heard about Putin not too long ago. I think it may have been told by a former head of British SIS - in any event it was a spy who had been in Germany at the time. Putin, as is public record, was a KGB agent in East Germany in 1989 when the wall came down. He hurriedly evacuated back to the USSR with a washing machine that had been gifted to him loaded on top of his station wagon. Maybe he started the trend.

Edited November 14 by Chopper

[RDCanecutter 26377]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Russia cutting payments to those injured in Ukraine.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-troops-losses-1985722

This is gonna play hell with the Shoot Yourself In The Toe industry.

[Schulz2.0 28951]

[Orange&White 5521]

Should we be buying up rubles right now?

[Schulz2.0 28951]

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1027597.html

About a week ago, a group of Ukrainian SOF were killed doing operations in Bryansk. One was reportedly a former Army Ranger. The speculation is that the arrest is related to that.

[InkaUtexas 25854]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Only when musk backs it. Then invest.

[MillerEP 30446]

https://www.threads.net/@osinttechnical/post/DCU9G5zJYxa?xmt=AQGzJAddwzVCP06AbMwlwDmrepNGEYSUwJjsenG5gab6tQ

This morning, a Russian Black Sea Fleet staff car exploded in Sevastopol, killing the 41st Missile Boat Brigade's commander, Captain 1st Rank Valery Trankovsky.
Russian outlets report that Ukrainian operatives planted an IED under the vehicle.

 

https://bsky.app/profile/vatniksoup.bsky.social/post/3laykrdbtc222

I think the Kremlin is preparing to conduct massive sabotage operations on underwater Internet cables.

First of all, Russian authorities is planning to do a series of exercises to disconnect the RuNet from the global Internet.

Second, Patrushev recently claimed that the US and the UK are planning to blow up these cables.

As soon as RuNet is fully separated from the global network, Russia is ready to launch these sabotage operations.

Third, they got an underwater sabotage capable ship between Wales and Ireland at this moment, couple days ago it took the Norway route and has been following cables and LNG pipes ever since then.

 

[Schulz2.0 28951]

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-refineries-cut-oil-runs-due-losses-closures-loom-2024-11-15/

[Kennythetiger 9374]

On 11/13/2024 at 9:33 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit, I just looked, and he turns 70 in two months.

From earlier this summer. Reckless Kelly backed him. 

[Laxtonto 12078]

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

When they say brigade and battalion commanders in November of 2024, I’m imagining guys who in February of 2022 were captains and lieutenants..

[KYHorn 17003]

 

[MillerEP 30446]

https://www.threads.net/@tsua_23/post/DCbHuy2I24l?xmt=AQGzButR2PfutZ5OqNMI_8SxFtB0Hob9lX8JCxwPeR8HEA

Horror at the Rostov military morgue of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Here, hundreds of corpse are sorted, packed on a conveyor belt and transported around Russia. Russian merchants arrive for their goods. A new batch from Ukraine has just arrived. The work here is in full swing day and night, without stopping for a minute, batches of bodies are brought in on wheelbarrows, put into coffins, sealed for transportation and sent to all corners of Russia.

https://www.threads.net/@osinttechnical/post/DCb-avWq5Xn?xmt=AQGzqunCcLjgYCLZNN2Uo3xLKbgUH4i09ATHMPylidwAtA

Ukraine's new French trained and equipped brigade, the 155th Mechanized, is wrapping up activities in Champagne and will be headed back into Ukraine in the coming weeks.

Their equipment, including over 100 French-supplied armored vehicles, is already on its way.

[Schulz2.0 28951]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/17/russia-targets-ukraines-power-grid-in-biggest-missile-strike-in-months-officials-say

 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-ship-escorted-away-from-internet-cables-in-irish-sea?CMP=share_btn_url

[KYHorn 17003]

Imagine your country is exposed to this level of terror. You wouldn’t negotiate with the terrorists from this neighboring country. You would fight back. 

Freedom is not negotiable. Freedom is not for free. And you are just curtailing your own freedom if you expect any other country should accept this.

Edited Sunday at 01:52 PM by KYHorn

[Scheiss Meister 8407]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/17/russia-targets-ukraines-power-grid-in-biggest-missile-strike-in-months-officials-say

 

Looks like Ukraine will go back to burning Russian oil depots.  Not that anyone really expected Russia to keep their end of a deal.

[MissingInAction 25002]

15 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

When they say brigade and battalion commanders in November of 2024, I’m imagining guys who in February of 2022 were captains and lieutenants..

More like loudest dude at the bar. Hey,Yuri! You want army?

[Viper 12097]

Would rather this leak out after the first strikes...

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-lifts-ban-ukraine-using-us-arms-strike-inside-russia-2024-11-17/

Biden lifts ban on Ukraine using US arms to strike inside Russia

WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's administration has lifted restrictions that had blocked Ukraine from using U.S.-provided weapons to strike deep into Russian territory, said three sources familiar with the matter, in a significant change to U.S. policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns

.

Edited Sunday at 06:26 PM by Viper