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[Deej 77729]

Shutting down all the Russian OnlyFans models will be the death blow. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:59 AM by Deej

[Gatorubet 30676]

43 minutes ago, Deej said:

Shutting down all the Russian OnlyFans models with be the death blow. 

I’m sure you know by now that I’m extremely supportive of Ukraine.   But let’s be very careful lest we wind up supporting something that is very likely an international war crime.

[InkaUtexas 26845]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I’m sure you know by now that I’m extremely supportive of Ukraine.   But let’s be very careful lest we wind up supporting something that is very likely an international war crime.

Fuck that, plenty of hot chicks from countries that are not trying to exterminate their neighbor. If I have to not look at russian snatch for the greater good, so be it. Probably smells like shitty vodka anyways.

[Gatorubet 30676]

10 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Fuck that, plenty of hot chicks from countries that are not trying to exterminate their neighbor. If I have to not look at russian snatch for the greater good, so be it.

[Captainant 28463]

Zelensky to Orban and Trump: fuck off 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/12/18/7489634/

"I insist that no leader in the world has the right to negotiate with Putin on behalf of Ukraine. We have never delegated this mandate to anyone. We are the victims. It would be unfair if everyone started saying how the country should live. The French people in France, Italians in Italy or Americans in the United States know what they want for themselves. So do Ukrainians." - President Zelensky 

[dimyh 1890]

Russian police work superior to USA police work. It takes us a good week to nab a Luigi while the Russians already found their killer with a full confession in 24 hours. Amazing! 

 

 

[InkaUtexas 26845]

So they invading Uzbekistan next?

[Parliament 14583]

Yep.  A 3 day special operation and it’ll all be took care of.

[Pato del Muerto 53409]

If the “slowly at first then all at once” theory is still to apply to the Russian economy collapse, do we need the all at once to happen in the next 3 weeks, or is it past the point of rescue by changes in American foreign policy?

it’d piss me off if the collapse happens and the new admin gets/takes credit for it but that’s still better than the new admin rescuing them with policy change. 
 

eta: this is a post that belongs on the cr Ukraine thread probably, and I don’t like to read that one. Ignore the bulk- is the Russian economy over the precipice of the falls?

Edited Wednesday at 04:20 PM by Pato del Muerto

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

[Parliament 14583]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If the “slowly at first then all at once” theory is still to apply to the Russian economy collapse, do we need the all at once to happen in the next 3 weeks, or is it past the point of rescue by changes in American foreign policy?

it’d piss me off if the collapse happens and the new admin gets/takes credit for it but that’s still better than the new admin rescuing them with policy change. 
 

eta: this is a post that belongs on the cr Ukraine thread probably, and I don’t like to read that one. Ignore the bulk- is the Russian economy over the precipice of the falls?

Without going CR I’ll say the average Russian is an order of magnitude tougher and more tolerant than humans.  What would drive America to collapse would be a…Tuesday in Russia.

What I’m saying is rock bottom is way lower than what it looks like to us here.  Russia will get MUCH worse before it collapses.  I don’t think we’re close to that.

[Chad Fuck 18124]

6 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Without going CR I’ll say the average Russian is an order of magnitude tougher and more tolerant than humans.  What would drive America to collapse would be a…Tuesday in Russia.

What I’m saying is rock bottom is way lower than what it looks like to us here.  Russia will get MUCH worse before it collapses.  I don’t think we’re close to that.

Also, what does "collapse" mean?  When people are in breadlines or pushing thier cars to the gas station?  Or when Putin gets Mussolinied?

[Pato del Muerto 53409]

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

when Putin gets Mussolinied?

My definition is this, when the Russian population says that’s enough and does something about it.  I don’t know if their history shows popular revolutions, military/political coups, or some of each. 

[Brisketexan 106798]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My definition is this, when the Russian population says that’s enough and does something about it.  I don’t know if their history shows popular revolutions, military/political coups, or some of each. 

The Russian people are entirely insignificant and always have been, save in one respect: as a source of meat to be used by their masters.  Even in their brief moment of purportedly "popular" revolt 100+ years ago....they were already cultivating their next iteration of oligarchical masters.

All that matters is what the oligarchy does.  That has always been the case in Russia, and always will be.  

[MillerEP 30866]

https://www.threads.net/@24hoursofukraine/post/DDuF0RwtnX8?xmt=AQGzbrY6QukLN1i1jpQbtZbH9wW6q7gVS3dysKIKStjChw

This is how Russian military personnel learn to evade FPV drones.

https://www.threads.net/@kyivpost.official/post/DDuATOcIVov?xmt=AQGzCzkuhaflcxoQDJC8B-Sn7fTzpX3TjiZsgElfejElTg

Russians are now burning the faces off North Korean combat casualties in effort to hide origin.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44096


^what?

[Pato del Muerto 53409]

38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

that matters is what the oligarchy does.  That has always been the case in Russia, and always will be

Ok. Do we have an idea of their pain level?

[InkaUtexas 26845]

There are a few levels of Pain levels in Russia I have looked at. Yeah, you got the poor fucks out in the Urals, Siberia who suck ass and can take a lot of shit. Then you have the "urban" pop in those areas. Yeah, they can take a lot compared to the west, but in some areas, like Siberia, they are dependent on a functioning some sort of government for basic needs, like heat. These can quick, but they are fucked either way. Gov falls, no services. Gov does not fall, well doesn't care, and never really did.

Then you have the old timers in the Urban areas. Moscow, etc. I think they can handle the breadlines since they did before. But the newer generations? I think they break quick. Grew up being told Russia is great, but now they might have to eat shit.

 

[Brisketexan 106798]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Ok. Do we have an idea of their pain level?

The oligarchs?  Not really.  And, Putin did a masterful job of owning/undermining every single one of them.  They really aren't much of a threat.  It remains to be seen how well Putin plays geopolitics, but he OWNS internal Russian politics.  He has no rivals, and no prospects for rivals or threats.

[Pato del Muerto 53409]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The oligarchs?  Not really.  And, Putin did a masterful job of owning/undermining every single one of them.  They really aren't much of a threat.  It remains to be seen how well Putin plays geopolitics, but he OWNS internal Russian politics.  He has no rivals, and no prospects for rivals or threats.

[pops 7127]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The Russian people are entirely insignificant and always have been, save in one respect: as a source of meat to be used by their masters.  Even in their brief moment of purportedly "popular" revolt 100+ years ago....they were already cultivating their next iteration of oligarchical masters.

All that matters is what the oligarchy does.  That has always been the case in Russia, and always will be.  

There is no fix. It's ingrained. Patton was right. We should have let him do his thing. 

[atomheartbevo 90597]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Ok. Do we have an idea of their pain level?

They are drafting men in their 50s to go fight.  The uneducated rurals/factory workers can tolerate a lot.

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The oligarchs?  Not really.  And, Putin did a masterful job of owning/undermining every single one of them.  They really aren't much of a threat.  It remains to be seen how well Putin plays geopolitics, but he OWNS internal Russian politics.  He has no rivals, and no prospects for rivals or threats.

Yep, it's almost like clockwork that an official or oligarch or executive kills themselves every few months. Usually falling out of a window.

[Brisketexan 106798]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

They are drafting men in their 50s to go fight.  The uneducated rurals/factory workers can tolerate a lot.

Yep, it's almost like clockwork that an official or oligarch or executive kills themselves every few months. Usually falling out of a window.

I gotta tell ya, that really makes me question Russian construction safety standards.  After the war, we probably oughta send some experts over there, to see if we can help 'em tighten those up for safety's sake.

[Ted Lange 16388]

2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

https://www.threads.net/@kyivpost.official/post/DDuATOcIVov?xmt=AQGzCzkuhaflcxoQDJC8B-Sn7fTzpX3TjiZsgElfejElTg

Russians are now burning the faces off North Korean combat casualties in effort to hide origin.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44096


^what?

[Chad Fuck 18124]

There is no fix. It's ingrained. Patton was right. We should have let him do his thing. 

And then occupy Russia? Did you hear Brisket upthread? So the Russians have ever been, so they will ever be. Patton wouldn’t have done anything Napoleon or Hitler didn’t do.

[atomheartbevo 90597]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

And then occupy Russia? Did you hear Brisket upthread? So the Russians have ever been, so they will ever be. Patton wouldn’t have done anything Napoleon or Hitler didn’t do.

It would have gotten a lot of Americans killed, but would have stopped the Warsaw Pact from happening in the long run.  But we had no idea the Warsaw Pact would happen.  

[InkaUtexas 26845]

11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It would have gotten a lot of Americans killed, but would have stopped the Warsaw Pact from happening in the long run.  But we had no idea the Warsaw Pact would happen.  

yes we did. That is Eastern European History. Sucks for the smaller nations, but they always have had to decide to be on a side. Even the Hapsburg.

Basically if you were not French or Russian you were sucking someones dick since 1400. The Poles were able to make a few runs of it, but they did so by kicking the shit out of smaller nations.

[InkaUtexas 26845]

OMG. OK, Ukes have style that is for sure.

According to the latest official estimate from Andriy Kovalenko, head of the Center for Countering Disinformation in Kyiv, the North Korean 11th Army Corps lost around 200 troops killed and wounded in a series of assaults targeting Ukrainian positions in western Russia’s Kursk Oblast last weekend.

At least a few of those casualties were inflicted by explosive first-person-view drones wearing Christmas ornaments. A reindeer. A Santa. An elf. A bird.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/12/18/drones-wearing-christmas-ornaments-helped-kill-or-wound-200-north-korean-troops-in-kursk/

[atomheartbevo 90597]

[AnTiM 1689]

46 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

yes we did. That is Eastern European History. Sucks for the smaller nations, but they always have had to decide to be on a side. Even the Hapsburg.

Basically if you were not French or Russian you were sucking someones dick since 1400. The Poles were able to make a few runs of it, but they did so by kicking the shit out of smaller nations.

This discussion is making me very thankful that my grandfather emigrated here from what is now the Czech Republic in the early 1900s.  I have seen a picture of him in a Prussian army hat with the spike on top circa 1880s.

[Macanudo 13278]

The right way for Putin to meet his end is up against a basement wall in Yekaterinburg getting a bullet in his brain.   

[TexasEd 8261]

23 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

You forgot the Chinese.

China's 1 child policy left them with a shortage of girls.  Millennials are incel because there are too few women and the ones that are there don't want to have kids. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57154574

 

 

6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My definition is this, when the Russian population says that’s enough and does something about it.  I don’t know if their history shows popular revolutions, military/political coups, or some of each. 

 

6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The Russian people are entirely insignificant and always have been, save in one respect: as a source of meat to be used by their masters.  Even in their brief moment of purportedly "popular" revolt 100+ years ago....they were already cultivating their next iteration of oligarchical masters.

All that matters is what the oligarchy does.  That has always been the case in Russia, and always will be.  

Russia has always been a transfer of ruling class.  What is the ruling class that is going to replace Putin?  Are they brave/united enough to pull it off?  He's thrown so many out windows and created a lack of trust it will be like Germans trying to knock off Hitler.

[atomheartbevo 90597]

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

The right way for Putin to meet his end is up against a basement wall in Yekaterinburg getting a bullet in his brain.   

Or in a public square in Kyiv, but either one is okay.

[statsman 5689]

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

The right way for Putin to meet his end is up against a basement wall in Yekaterinburg getting a bullet in his brain.   

I don’t know that Nicholas was lucky enough to get shot in the head or heart. The shooters were all drunk and shot wildly. I feel sorry for the children and servants. 

[Jameslaw121 4491]

From what I understand. The thing to know about Russia. Moscow (and St. Petersburg) = Real Russians. All the rest of the aren't "Real Russians." They are second class (or worse). Kinda like how we treat migrant farm workers here. Or maybe like Hunger Games.

Until the middle and upper class in Moscow really feel scared or financially ruined, they wont care what's happening. Its too far away

[atomheartbevo 90597]

5 minutes ago, Jameslaw121 said:

Until the middle and upper class in Moscow really feel scared or financially ruined, they wont care what's happening. Its too far away

Yeah, those 50-somethings that were being told how to load a Kalashnikov were probably not bankers or analysts or computer programmers from Moscow.

[Jameslaw121 4491]

22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or in a public square in Kyiv, but either one is okay.

I don't believe in the death penalty. 

Find every case of torture & rape. Spend one hour explaining to him what was done to the innocent civilian. Then explain that we are going to do the same thing to him until he's almost dead. Then were will have doctors complete cure you. And then we will go on to the next case of torture and rape. rinse and repeat. 

And make it public for the next tyrant to see

[Ted Lange 16388]

[KYHorn 17584]

The Ukrainian General Staff has confirmed a strike on the Novoshakhtinsk oil refinery in the Rostov region last night.

The attack involved a combination of UAVs and Neptune missile systems. The refinery was the only refinery operating in Rostov region and it was used to support military activities.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:00 PM by KYHorn

[Chad Fuck 18124]

Russia has always been a transfer of ruling class.  What is the ruling class that is going to replace Putin?  Are they brave/united enough to pull it off?  He's thrown so many out windows and created a lack of trust it will be like Germans trying to knock off Hitler.

There was a pretty good Frontline on just this issue a while back. Russia has killed or run off any in the current generation who might oppose Putin, and they haven’t developed new leadership in the next generation because Putin of course doesn’t want any rivals. The upshot is there are only like 250-500 people in the whole country who might be able to step in, but they’re all part of the current apparatus so are only incentivized to keep it going, not change it.

Contrast this to the US where we develop the world’s talents and have thousands of people who could maintain leadership roles (even though we actually pick the absolute worst among us but that’s another discussion that’s been done to death in CR).

[InkaUtexas 26845]

Anyone watch Putin's speech? Only real statement is he should have invaded Ukraine earlier

Highlights from BBC are here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cpw2yw0nr7qt

Putin says he believes he has, saying Moscow has having "moved away from the brink of the abyss". He adds that the country was about to lose its sovereignty when he assumed power.

Putin says the Russian economy has left the UK behind, and says Russia is ready to work with Britain if they are willing to.

Away from the Abyss? More like falling into it like some Ruskie CEO going out a window.

 

 

[Parliament 14583]

13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, those 50-somethings that were being told how to load a Kalashnikov were probably not bankers or analysts or computer programmers from Moscow.

Or OF cam girls.

[MillerEP 30866]

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/DDxOMXStgEo?xmt=AQGzvKjlUkGprJCVKpvB9nbHdo8Kfx5dr7-p9CQvP29tMA

A Russian BTR-D delivered assault troops to a landing zone, only to run over two of its own soldiers with its tracks during the drop-off. Later, the rest ran off.

 

^Insane, they literally just step over them like "oh well"

 

https://www.threads.net/@24hoursofukraine/post/DDxMiHXNboj?xmt=AQGzvKjlUkGprJCVKpvB9nbHdo8Kfx5dr7-p9CQvP29tMA

Boom 💥 Two explosions reported in Murmansk,russia near the main naval base of the Northern Fleet

[MillerEP 30866]

https://www.threads.net/@natalkakyiv/post/DDxYWscPWOF?xmt=AQGzerCqoZ4hpAIbYS5TeoBz50SIexVAvAGvhFiNI9aF7A

President Zelenskyy called Putin a ‘dumb*ss’.
I second that!

[dimyh 1890]

8 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Anyone watch Putin's speech? Only real statement is he should have invaded Ukraine earlier

 

One thing that will be interesting to look back once this is all done is the wildcard event of Covid and how it may have greatly influenced these major historical events. Putin was planning this invasion for quite a while but even dictators are subservient to worldwide health epidemics. Whatever timetable he had in mind the pandemic had to be a big hindrance. Plus the disruption to American lives contributed directly to public sentiment souring on Trump and ultimately his bid for reelection. If Covid didn't hit then Trump may have pulled off the reelection and been in the driver's seat whenever Putin finally decided to pull the trigger. The whole sequence of events could have played out quite drastically different. So many what ifs but the timing of a single event may have had longterm consequences similar to maybe when the Divine Winds saved Japan from the Mongol invasions in the 13th century.

[statsman 5689]

32 minutes ago, dimyh said:

Nevermind

Edited 17 hours ago by statsman

[DDD Dad 14633]

2 minutes ago, statsman said:

No CR, but do you not think the disastrous pullout from Afghanistan and the Biden statement that the U.S. probably wouldn’t respond to a “minor incursion” had something to do with Putin’s decision to go?

You know, if you say, "No CR," it doesn't mean your post isn't "CR."  "Disastrous pullout" reflects a pretty clear political perspective.

However, to answer your question, No, I don't.  

 

Edited 17 hours ago by DDD Dad

[statsman 5689]

4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

You know, if you say, No CR, it doesn't mean your post isn't "cr."

 

Yeah, but I was looking at the thread on the guy who killed Brian Thompson, and thought that the “CR standards” have been widened by a bunch. 
 
On my post above, I note a couple of documented facts, and ask if they are a factor. Is that CR-ing a DT thread?

Nevermind. It’s not worth it. I deleted my post. 

Edited 17 hours ago by statsman

[DDD Dad 14633]

2 minutes ago, statsman said:

Yeah, but I was looking at the thread on the guy who killed Brian Thompson, and thought that the “CR standards” have been widened by a bunch. 
 
On my post above, I note a couple of documented facts, and ask if they are a factor. Is that CR-ing a DT thread?

Stating that the pullout of Afghanistan was "disastrous" is an opinion, not a fact.  I won't go into why because it would require CR discussion.

Edited 17 hours ago by DDD Dad

[atomheartbevo 90597]

39 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Stating that the pullout of Afghanistan was "disastrous" is an opinion, not a fact.  I won't go into why because it would require CR discussion.

It doesn’t have to go there - the fact is that historically, pullouts usually don’t go very well, whether it be Vietnam (for us or the French), Afghanistan for the Russians (or Brits or us), various conflicts in Africa (US, Brits, French, the Belgians, although the French seemed to have done it the best in Africa), or some places in South America, or Susan Hofstetter in Galveston in 1994 when her husband came home from work early. Had I studied French military history in Africa, I might have affected a better withdrawal in that last incident, and not left such a lasting memory on her husband, her kids, or the Galveston County Sheriff’s Department.  

[Macanudo 13278]

1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

You know, if you say, "No CR," it doesn't mean your post isn't "CR."  "Disastrous pullout" reflects a pretty clear political perspective.

However, to answer your question, No, I don't.  

 

Disastrous Pullout is the name of my death metal band.   (RIP YGIFS....)