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6 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

This is a case of a leader being unwilling to recognize and disengage from a mistake. In many cases, he does not have a ton of positive viable off-ramps that would allow him to save face now. He caught the tiger by the tail and doesn't have a way to let go without getting mauled. All he can hope for is that the tiger starves to death before he does.

Putin learned the hard way, the old saying that our grandfathers and fathers passed down to us, and from which there is usually no recovery:

You can’t unfuck the babysitter.

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44 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Putin learned the hard way, the old saying that our grandfathers and fathers passed down to us, and from which there is usually no recovery:

You can’t unfuck the babysitter.

Now that right there is some honest-to-gawd backwoods poetry.

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7 hours ago, PTINS said:

Great to see you guys again!!!  Going days without new info has been an unpleasant withdrawal

My Twitter algo was a fine-tuned machine but since it doesn't embed anymore, I'm slowly working on my Bluesky algo, which thought this was the most relevant post to show me this morning. 

... And now it's worse since I shared the post

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

dumb question amnesty - I'm having the same issues with bluesky video that I had with xitter - clicking play opens another window and I have to watch the video on that site. Is that a setting in my browser or just the way it is?

Apparently just the way it is right now.  Not sure if it's on BlueSky's end or Invision's end, but most likely BlueSky's API right now is forcing you to the site.

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6 hours ago, KYHorn said:

My Twitter algo was a fine-tuned machine but since it doesn't embed anymore, I'm slowly working on my Bluesky algo, which thought this was the most relevant post to show me this morning. 

Bluesky has curated lists and feeds that Twitter doesn't. So one of the good things about that is you can just add an existing list, and click on that and it'll only show you news related to that topic (i.e. Ukraine war, Texas Longhorns, etc.) and when you're done reading through that feed, you can click back to your Following or Discover (the main) threads.

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thank you for finding that. I used the first one I found.

Again, "useful but untrue" is the belief that the US is carrying Europe here.  The entire free world has a vested interest here, contributing .5% of your GDP to the effort to stop Russia is a GOOD thing for everyone. It will properly send the message to all despots including China vis a vie Taiwan that the world will not abide.

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57 minutes ago, troph said:

this is a really useful graph showing contributions as of last summer. by sheer dollar amounts the US is by far the biggest supporter of Ukraine but by GDP which is a much more appropriate metric in my view, it's a lot closer:

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Of course, time periods may not line up with the entirety of the war (I did not check) and there certainly can be an argument Europe should bear a larger portion but do note that the UK not an EU country contributed the most by GDP of any area or country (measuring the EU as one entity) during this time and combined with the rest of Europe the number is higher. Note the sizable support based on GDP from Denmark and the Netherlands when you break out the EU nations.

Ultimately, I believe the narrative that Europe isn't carrying its weight is just blatantly false.  But hey, that's a "useful not true" statement.  That's what we do these days.

I think it's an extreme mistake for the US to stop supporting Ukraine financially as the US has a strategic interest in both a secure Europe and a weakened Russia, but if the position is set in stone - no more aid from the US - then Europe is doing the next best strategic move by offering to pay.

Say what you will about Trump and personally you know what I think, he often times wins without taking the winning course. Europe will pay more, the US will pay less, it will be claimed a victory and our relationships with NATO and our allies will be weakened. But for Ukraine, what matters is the arms and money continues to flow.

I'm glad Europe has taken on the role of being an adult here. kudos to them.

It is also going to vary quite a bit based upon how you count the value of aid. For instance, if the US sends 30 modern MBT tanks and Poland sends 30 modern MBT tanks, Ukraine got 30 tanks each, but the US donation will appear 5x bigger in dollar amount. And then there is the whole thing where the vast majority of "aid" approved by Congress is really aid to US manufacturers, not really money or items going to Ukraine. And, to be clear, I'm not critical of this approach at all. I'm just pointing out the accounting difficulties that arise as a result. 

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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Reading this page tells me that some of y'all haven't seen this.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-suggests-ukraine-not-fought-back-russia-rcna189071

 

"I could have made that deal so easily, and Zelenskyy decided that 'I want to fight,'" Trump said.

Trump went on to compare the number of tanks each country had, emphasizing that Russia had more.

"You don't fight those," Trump said.

A White House spokesperson did not immediately respond when asked how Trump thinks Ukraine should have replied when Russia launched its invasion. The Ukrainian Embassy in Washington also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Previous posters are right in the sense that changing administrations does give us an opportunity to explore new, more aggressive approaches. There were certainly elements of the prior administration that were overly cautious (in my view) in their approach to Russia. I don't think the current administration is so constrained and if it believes taking a hardline against Russia is in its personal best interests, it will do so. And I think that is something that could happen. But, we shouldn't delude ourselves into believing that prior actions suggest that is what this administration will do. If we take a more aggressive stance, it'll take a shift of both US policy and a shift of this administrations prior views. I'm hopeful that someone makes the right argument to make that change to happen. 

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6 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

https://www.threads.net/@tsua_23/post/DFOECWmIdM1?xmt=AQGzzzt1M66lJw-SKGw5-ldfgpxGfL7ZZX3-no53l9BnzQ

A Ukrainian soldier survived after two bullets struck his helmet. Remarkably, the helmet withstood the impact, and saved the soldier's life.

 

^wild

 

https://www.threads.net/@kyivpost.official/post/DFNjd20I3xJ?xmt=AQGzzzt1M66lJw-SKGw5-ldfgpxGfL7ZZX3-no53l9BnzQ

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Friedrich Merz, favorite to become Germany’s next chancellor in the upcoming elections, does not want peace in Ukraine at the cost of surrendering Ukrainian sovereignty to Putin.

We have to look to Europe for leadership?  I'll take it.  They owe us one free get out of fascism card.  

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There is more that can be done. Some of it is simple, might seem trivial, but would impact the countries openly flaunting the sanctions, Gulf States, China, India primarily.

If your airlines are flying over Russia, thus paying them over flight fees, you cannot land in my country. Done. Fly around like everyone else. This does not stop flights to and from Russia. It just means the Air India Cargo, (insert chinese airline), Emriates for example cannot take off from the US or Home and transit over Russia.

If they continue, hit them with sanctions.

 

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7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

There is more that can be done. Some of it is simple, might seem trivial, but would impact the countries openly flaunting the sanctions, Gulf States, China, India primarily.

If your airlines are flying over Russia, thus paying them over flight fees, you cannot land in my country. Done. Fly around like everyone else. This does not stop flights to and from Russia. It just means the Air India Cargo, (insert chinese airline), Emriates for example cannot take off from the US or Home and transit over Russia.

If they continue, hit them with sanctions.

 

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We’ll work up an old number six on ‘em!

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This thread is inherently political or at least poli-tangent. Shut up about it and just minimize the vitriol. 

Best Jake Broe update vid in weeks. Trump is going to do the right things for the wrong reasons… but who cares, Slava Ukraini!!

 

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20 minutes ago, B00M said:

This thread is inherently political or at least poli-tangent. Shut up about it and just minimize the vitriol. 

Best Jake Broe update vid in weeks. Trump is going to do the right things for the wrong reasons… but who cares, Slava Ukraini!!

 

Particularly because of the transition of power. Reasonable adults should be able to keep the partisanship out of it. Facts are facts, things are going to change. It’s worthy of discussion. I have every reason to hate the new admin, but that’s not for this thread, which frankly is better when Eastern European dumbshits like me just lurk.

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11 hours ago, troph said:

Particularly because of the transition of power. Reasonable adults should be able to keep the partisanship out of it. Facts are facts, things are going to change. It’s worthy of discussion. I have every reason to hate the new admin, but that’s not for this thread, which frankly is better when Eastern European dumbshits like me just lurk.

Fully agree. 2 posts above is an example of what to avoid.

I hope this progresses further. The demographic crisis may be one of the most significant challenges Ukraine faces

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, bolverk said:

Protests in Slovakia against Fico cozying up with Putin.

 

 

The dissatisfaction with Fico runs deeper than just Russia.  He was already forced out once due to protests in 2018, but came back with a vengeance. He will be much more pugnacious this time. He does have a tricky spot in that coalition MPs are unhappy.

 

I am not confident that there is enough momentum to maintain the protests.  The 2018 ones went on for weeks and were much less politicized than these. 

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20 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I guess you didn't get the memo. Immamac has disabled Xitter and has requested screenshots be posted instead.

The absence of X embeds, or possibly embeds in general, increases the responsiveness of this page. Clicking on links or screenshots seems like a better method. 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I guess you didn't get the memo. Immamac has disabled Xitter and has requested screenshots be posted instead.

 

Why?

 

41 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

The absence of X embeds, or possibly embeds in general, increases the responsiveness of this page. Clicking on links or screenshots seems like a better method. 

 

Bluesky is still embedded tho

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3 hours ago, Telegraph_it said:

The absence of X embeds, or possibly embeds in general, increases the responsiveness of this page. Clicking on links or screenshots seems like a better method. 

Yep.  

2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Bluesky is still embedded tho

It does perform better than Twitter on the embed side.

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