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[Deej 76898]

3 hours ago, KYHorn said:

 

 lol can't make this up

I thought they said male model?

[statsman 5476]

We have an advantage in communication intercepts. You get the word to the key individuals in the nuclear weapons (tactical and strategic) delivery chain-

“When the order comes, if the order comes, it will be because defeat is certain. Life will be harder in Russia for a long time. Anyone who delivered nukes will be punished as a war criminal. Anyone that disobeys such an order will be seen as a hero, and rewarded “. 

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1 hour ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

You need a lot more men than that to beat a couple modern machine guns. 

Or one Audie Murphy.  Do they have an Audie Murphy?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

12 minutes ago, statsman said:

We have an advantage in communication intercepts. You get the word to the key individuals in the nuclear weapons (tactical and strategic) delivery chain-

“When the order comes, if the order comes, it will be because defeat is certain. Life will be harder in Russia for a long time. Anyone who delivered nukes will be punished as a war criminal. Anyone that disobeys such an order will be seen as a hero, and rewarded “. 

“You contribute to stopping the launch from happening, we’ll give you 100 acres in Ohio and you can pick a new washing machine and toilet every year.”  

[Pods 7586]

1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

“You contribute to stopping the launch from happening, we’ll give you 100 acres in Ohio and you can pick a new washing machine and toilet every year.”  

"We'll even teach you how to flush the toilet. Hell, take Putin out and we'll throw in a bidet."

Edited February 12, 2023 by Pods

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Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

“You contribute to stopping the launch from happening, we’ll give you 100 acres in Ohio and you can pick a new washing machine and toilet every year.”  

Have you ever been to Ohio?  Are you trying to get us killed?

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4 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

What do you think happens when it becomes clear that Russia will be defeated?  Putin just says “bummer, ok fall back” and everybody just accepts peace?  Unless you think Putin will be taken out by rational, western-friendly Russians before then, how do you suppose Putin reacts to his ultimate defeat?

Putin controls the messaging. He can spin ANY outcome as victory at home.

[Gatorubet 30294]

3 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

You need a lot more men than that to beat a couple modern machine guns. 

Nonsense! Gallipoli would’ve worked if the troops had enough Elan Vital. 

[Gatorubet 30294]

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

“You contribute to stopping the launch from happening, we’ll give you 100 acres in Ohio and you can pick a new washing machine and toilet every year.”  

That is a hard sell in Ohio.   A nuclear warhead would burn a lot of couches.

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2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

I saw an old German MG-42 in one video. American GIs called them buzzsaws in WW2 because of the sound and absolute murder they wrought on the open field. 

Most likely a MG 3 which is a direct iteration of the MG-42

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_3_machine_gun

[Schulz2.0 29008]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Have you ever been to Ohio?  Are you trying to get us killed?

Counterpoint, they're from Russia. You could put them in Iowa.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Schulz2.0

[statsman 5476]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Have you ever been to Ohio?  Are you trying to get us killed?

He’s betting they don’t know anything about Ohio other than it is in America

[Gatorubet 30294]

18 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Counterpoint, they're from Russia. You could put them in Iowa.

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I would like to have seen...Ohio. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Pods
Gatorbet beat me to it.

[Gatorubet 30294]

21 minutes ago, Pods said:

I would like to have seen...Ohio. 

Yours was better.   Russians probably like chili on their spaghetti.

[Royalfan5 2355]

56 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Counterpoint, they're from Russia. You could put them in Iowa.

Fun fact they stuck the Germans from Russian(Volga Deutsch) in Kansas and Western Nebraska because the figured they were already immune to depressing landscapes. 

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Nonsense! Gallipoli would’ve worked if the troops had enough Elan Vital. 

Sounds like a type of cologne that a male model would sell.

[Brisketexan 105276]

 
 lol can't make this up

Ukrainians should kidnap him. Then torture him, slowly, on video. Release the videos to his dad. Every day. As his son dies, on camera, over 30 days.
This is the war you wanted, dad. We brought it to your son, because we know that how your Russian patriot heart would want it.

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[TwiceHorn 31530]

17 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Crimea is more important to the national security of Russia.  Without a warm water port, they are in trouble part of the year, especially given how much their ships break down.  And while they will eventually get a warm water port in the north, it'll take more warming/ice melting before that happens.

Just a point of order.  Sevastopol, in Crimea, is a warm-water port.  So is Novorossiysk, at approximately the same latitude but further east on the Black Sea.  And Novo is much larger.  St. Petersburg is also a warm-water port.  So is Murmansk, somewhat unbelievably.  But those ports are disadvantageously located. 

But then so are Sevastopol and Novo, being isolated from the Med and open ocean by the Dardanelles and Straits of Bosporous.

The necessity of a warm-water port is a smokescreen for Russia's Black Sea ambitions.  Russia wants to control the Black Sea region, for a variety of reasons.

[Gatorubet 30294]

Just now, MillerEP said:

 

“ Prigozhin sent enough Ukrainian gold teeth to Switzerland to cover it…”

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5 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Oh yeah?

Yeah. Read the post below.  Putin is scared of his own people (last year, the few times he went out in public, he did it in that bulky coat with a bunch of body armor), COVID, assassination attempts, foreign leaders, etc..  Seriously scared.  There’s a reason why he has his security personnel dress up in different uniforms and costumes for photo ops, rather than mingling with the unvarnished masses.  Those long-ass tables were all about the fear.

3 hours ago, Pods said:

Y'all seriously think this fucking coward would drop a nuke? He is clearly terrified of death. He won't let anyone else get within 15 feet of him. 

He drops a nuke, his allies are all gone and he's a dead man walking. He will not risk that escalation, which results in him personally being targeted. 

If he was going to drop a nuke, he would have done it on any one of his myriad of bluffs and it would have been when such a decision could have delivered a tactical win. Those days are long gone.

When the stupid motherfucker finally realizes he has no chance to hold his gains, he'll do what gives him the best chance of survival. He'll declare victory and retreat to his bunker. 

 

 

[Royalfan5 2355]

19 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just a point of order.  Sevastopol, in Crimea, is a warm-water port.  So is Novorossiysk, at approximately the same latitude but further east on the Black Sea.  And Novo is much larger.  St. Petersburg is also a warm-water port.  So is Murmansk, somewhat unbelievably.  But those ports are disadvantageously located. 

But then so are Sevastopol and Novo, being isolated from the Med and open ocean by the Dardanelles and Straits of Bosporous.

The necessity of a warm-water port is a smokescreen for Russia's Black Sea ambitions.  Russia wants to control the Black Sea region, for a variety of reasons.

If a ship were to sink in the Bosphorus it would be magnitudes more disruptive than any of the pipeline sabotage  

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5 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

You’ve been beating the “chill, this is almost over” drum for awhile now.

I think you’re incredibly naive.

It’s not even close to being over, but it can be close to culminating - those are two different things.   Unless Russia produces some tanks and APCs or IFVs to cover its troops, we are about to spend months watching drone footage of even more Russians dying in the open, in trenches, etc.

Right now, this is the Russian playbook:

 

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5 hours ago, Bevo said:

Yes, but I don't know how that happens. If Russia uses tactical nukes, what's our response? If we stop helping Ukraine, it means dumbass countries like Iran and North Korea become emboldened. So that isn't an option. If we, NATO, go in directly, we are directly threatening Russia's existence and Russia will use nukes on the West. So that is a no go as well. So about the only option is a tactical strike directly on Putin and immediate negotiations on a cease fire/de-escalation.

If Russia drops a nuke, I don’t feel like we commit troops, but I do think we completely isolate Russia, as in putting the screws to India, China, anybody else that wants to do business with Russia in any fashion.  We tell them they get the same sanctions as Russia - there is a reason why even China told Putin to his face not to use nukes.  It’s such a horrific idea, that even the Indians and Pakistanis haven’t used them against one another over the decades,

Russia keeps tossing around the idea of nukes, which means they aren’t serious - when Putin said he wasn’t bluffing, that automatically meant he was bluffing - the man is a gambler, not a risk taker.  He’s letting chance take control of the situation, rather than a risk taker who would have calculated the consequences of what could go wrong and then plan accordingly.  A risk taker would not have had multiple fuckups like the convoy north of Kyiv - he would have calculated for it.

While the war games and the tiger teams and their various iterations are a small part of our budget in general, they are probably the most cost-effective thing we do militarily - constantly having people in the military dedicated to playing out worst-case scenarios and then working up how to avoid them.  That stuff doesn’t fly in Russia, because that runs the risk of embarrassing senior leadership.  In the West, most of our senior military leadership has at some point participated in those war games, have been on Tiger teams (or their equivalent) where they play devil’s advocate.  

That’s why we can undertake some risky stuff and then succeed - what we did in the first Gulf War was basically the culmination of all of our war gaming, tiger teams, etc., and so we were able to move a massive amount of materials around the world without much of a hitch.   Meanwhile, Putin’s army runs out of fucking gas not too far from the Belarus border.

[MillerEP 30494]

[atomheartbevo 89779]

Just to make the above a TLDR:  after the 2014 invasion, Putin had 8 fucking years to plan things out, but he had a 40-mile long convoy run out of fuel and food 60 miles from the Belarusian border.  That speaks volumes about the mindset, training, and competence of his military.  You know there were officers and NCOs who knew they wouldn’t get far inside of Ukraine, but they did it anyways.

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Holy shit Pakistan.  Do you hate the Russians much?

[Gatorubet 30294]

10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit Pakistan.  Do you hate the Russians much?

They do business with India, so…..

[Gatorubet 30294]

27 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

 

 

 

Holy fuck! 10k of those things?  they launch 40 of those fuckers at a time, and while not a precision weapon, it literally blankets in the area with destruction.   A battalion of 18 launchers deliver 720 rockets.   

it has a 20 KM range, so if you have enough launchers, you will definitely stop Russian human waves.

[Gengs1 2583]

43 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Just to make the above a TLDR:  after the 2014 invasion, Putin had 8 fucking years to plan things out, but he had a 40-mile long convoy run out of fuel and food 60 miles from the Belarusian border.  That speaks volumes about the mindset, training, and competence of his military.  You know there were officers and NCOs who knew they wouldn’t get far inside of Ukraine, but they did it anyways.

I mean want options they had? Question leadership and test Newtons laws of gravity? They said let’s make some money and hope he changed his mind or gtfo

[KYHorn 17134]

Pretty detailed look at how drones are being used in various ways. Kamikazes take out 2-3 Russians.

 

[Bevo 13596]

16 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Pretty detailed look at how drones are being used in various ways. Kamikazes take out 2-3 Russians.

 

Seems like a nice truck for army personnel.

[Gatorubet 30294]

[Gengs1 2583]

13 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Soon?

[RDCanecutter 26466]

Pretty sure Prigozhin has been dead for years. I mean, just look at his photos.

[Gatorubet 30294]

7 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Pretty sure Prigozhin has been dead for years. I mean, just look at his photos.

Putin must need Wagner’s African gold  and Prigozhin did not “yes boss” fast enough. 

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[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

 

Tanks and APCs and aircraft actually are not very useful in war.  Also, I am a very very good general.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Goddam.   Incredible to read. 
 

 

 

[KYHorn 17134]

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by KYHorn

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https://news.yahoo.com/russian-general-poisoned-letter-laced-115952476.html

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A Russian general was poisoned by a letter laced with an unknown toxin, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov said in a Telegram post on Monday.

Kadyrov, who is also a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said his top general in Ukraine has been poisoned after handling a letter that was sent to him on February 8.

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Apti Alaudinov, who commands the Akhmat special forces, picked up a letter that was "saturated with a poisonous substance," Kadyrov said. The general "sensed this by the bitter, specific smell and took action in time: he treated his hands and washed his nasal cavity," Kadyrov added.

The Chechen leader said that Alaudinov and other personnel who came into contact with the envelope sought immediate medical assistance in a Moscow clinic and are now "on the mend." "Serious consequences were avoided," Kadyrov added.

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It is unclear who sent the letter or what exactly the substance was, but Kadyrov said an investigation was underway and that there are " already results."

They don’t know who sent it, but they already have results .

The article describes him as a close Putin ally, but he’s also gotten a little big for his britches and criticized some of Putin’s inner circle.  And Putin has a history of poisoning people.   Sounds like somebody is sending a message.

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21215]

31 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

 

Tanks and APCs and aircraft actually are not very useful in war.  Also, I am a very very good general.  

[KYHorn 17134]

 

 

 

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