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[troph 25241]

26 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Yeah I can't get on board with that just yet.  America fighters directly engaging Russians over non-NATO soil.  Big risk Putin goes straight after NATO.

And why the pivot?  They've been predicting Russia's invasion for over a month.  Why now are we talking about direct military action?  Because Putin is a lot weaker than we thought, and we think we can win?

What’s interesting about your post and btw I’m with you on this more than not - is you said not yet. Some said Ukraine wouldn’t fight in united fashion but that’s been proven untrue. And they’ve given russia all they can handle. What’s next though? Brutal brutal atrocities are likely.  I don’t see how the world can let that happen.  I’ll go back to my off the cuff rant - it really may be time for an inside job assassination or one by the CIA with tacit oligarch approval. The strategic nuke concern not battlefield nukes is just gonna fuck with everyone until it’s proven he won’t use them. Meanwhile if we let him continue he’s going to rape and murder women and children. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by troph

[Doc Reeves 6434]

28 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And, to do his part, last night, the boy and some buddies got drunk, wandered down to the Russian embassy in Berlin, and yelled "FUCK RUSSIA" at it a few times around 3:00 a.m.  True heroes, each and every one of them.

 

I wouldn’t take that too seriously, that’s pretty much a standard 3am for their Embassy 

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59 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

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2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

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3 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

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27 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Also Belorussia, Kazahkstan, Armenia (which surprises me), probably couple more Central Asia "stans", Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba.  And then any other country that thinks they can make a few extra bucks sucking at Putin's tit.  It's not the A Team, but then, the old USSR wasn't exactly pulling in grade A talent country-wise either.  They were able to run out the clock for decades anyway.

This roster sounds like TAMU, Mizzou, and Texas going up against the SEC

[Parliament 14605]

17 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3407537/ukrainian-commander-gives-bone-chilling-speech-directed-to-the-russians-you-will-not-get-out-of-here-alive.-you-will-all-die.-and-our-land-will-be-free.
 

Ukrain commander giving speech to troops, you will all die and our land will be free.

Me, a lieutenant in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, company commander. Here are my warriors. We are not afraid, we are not panicking. We do not lay down our arms and we will not succumb to any tyrants. We will not allow any murderers to impose their will on us. We will not give you a millimeter of our own land. Maybe this is our last recording. I don't know if I was a good or bad person, or what God will say. But I know that I am a good citizen and a good soldier. I am the protector of my homeland. The guarantor of her peace. Her shield and sword in time of war. You who come here whoever you are, whatever you are, who invade our house - get out of our land. We'll fight you until the last bullet. And when they're over, we'll fight you with our bare fists. We will fight you on land, in water, underground and in the air. Neither of you will get out of here alive. You will all die. And our land will be free. Glory to Ukraine. Glory heroes.”

 

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10 minutes ago, troph said:

What’s interesting about your post and btw I’m with you on this more than not - is you said not yet. Some said Ukraine wouldn’t fight in united fashion but that’s been proven untrue. And they’ve given russia all they can handle. What’s next though? Brutal brutal atrocities are likely.  I don’t see how the world can let that happen.  I’ll go back to my off the cuff rant - it really may be time for an inside job assassination or one by the CIA with tacit oligarch approval. The strategic nuke concern not battlefield nukes is just gonna fuck with everyone until it’s proven he won’t use them. Meanwhile if we let him continue he’s going to rape and murder women and children. 

You're right.  I'm keeping an open mind.

[Bateshorn 9991]

12 minutes ago, BillyGoatHill said:

 

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. 
 

The Bard could spit some fire.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Bateshorn

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[Errestaurants 2570]

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

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3 hours ago, PTINS said:

There are no world class LNG terminals on the East Coast.  Mostly NIMBY, but LNG terminals & population centers are not a good mix.

Our country is facing some issues with infrastructure that could threaten our energy security. We won’t be Germany, but unless we change our stance on gas pipelines, we’ll have a problem. 

We also have an abundance of natural gas - much more so than oil in terms of meeting our needs and being able to export a fuckton to countries in need. I understand the terminals near population centers, but we’ve got to build more, and more North to South (Houston) interstate pipelines, and West to East intrastate Texas pipelines. 

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Just now, Errestaurants said:

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

Way superior.  Now I must tell you that is only based on my watching of Top Gun over a thousand times.  

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3 minutes ago, Parliament said:

You're right.  I'm keeping an open mind.

Me too but I was fuck no a week ago.

[Pescado_Rojo 19592]

Just now, Errestaurants said:

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

I'd imagine with networked F22s and F35s, they'd be dead before they knew we were there. 

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If this is indeed the temperature of the RU military might, the US and NATO might not need to get involved…russians will defenestrate Putin themselves. 
 

Hes wrekt the country financially, and any muscle they used to flex will have turned out to be a mirage. 

[Eastwood 4394]

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

As close to immediately as militarily possible. A handful of F35s with F22 escorts would wipe out mobile AA pretty quick and then it's Brrrrrt time. But that's just my halfway educated armchair take. I'd gladly listen to someone in the Air Force correct me.

[Auto Driller 2568]

Considering that the Russian Air Force seems to be struggling to contain Ukraine’s fliers, I’m pretty sure we’d establish air superiority in 24 hours or less.

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1 minute ago, Errestaurants said:

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

The retired military on CNN I saw advocating for it said quickly. Russia is that inept compared to us. 

[HOOKEM4 5177]

37 minutes ago, troph said:

Can someone post the porn hub tweet again please? We need to drive that to at least 20 so everyone is super aware Russian men can’t get free porn.

It was also debunked in the comments of that tweet. Everyone is still cranking it on schedule.

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

It was also debunked in the comments of that tweet. Everyone is still cranking it on schedule.

But titties? 

[F250 29203]

49 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

You want to fuck a Russian soldier?

 

Well, back in the 80's there was that one Russkie.

 

[Gravy Train 976]

2 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Considering that the Russian Air Force seems to be struggling to contain Ukraine’s fliers, I’m pretty sure we’d establish air superiority in 24 hours or less.

Unfortunately a few viral videos were mere fabrications from a 2008-era video game
https://twitter.com/i/events/1497346553605808137

[SimonBolivar 11066]

3 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Considering that the Russian Air Force seems to be struggling to contain Ukraine’s fliers

Never would've guessed it.

[Dahobbs 18345]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

It was also debunked in the comments of that tweet. Everyone is still cranking it on schedule.

Wait, do y'all have assigned schedules? I missed the memo. 

[BillyGoatHill 4421]

As close to immediately as militarily possible. A handful of F35s with F22 escorts would wipe out mobile AA pretty quick and then it's Brrrrrt time. But that's just my halfway educated armchair take. I'd gladly listen to someone in the Air Force correct me.

Nope. You got it right.
And the A-10s would have a field day.


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[Pescado_Rojo 19592]

Just now, Dahobbs said:

Wait, do y'all have assigned schedules? I missed the memo. 

The house is empty by 8:30 AM, so........

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2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

It took the United States more than 2 weeks to capture Basara and 3 weeks to capture Baghdad. The US military was (and is) light-years ahead in leadership, training and weaponry. Anyone IMO thinking this is over for Russia is incorrect. War takes time. 

They will eventually take Kyiv, but they are not in a position to do much else - at this point, the US/allies in '91 had dropped a shitload more ordinance on Iraq. This whole thing feels so much like the Russians are trying to skip necessary steps and just rush to Kyiv and a few other areas.   It's like they wanted to emulate our "Shock and Awe" but are skipping the "Shock" part.

I still think I'm being generous, but assuming they are running roughly 3:1 for support-to-infantry, that's around 50,000 infantry (and I'm including the marine infantry the Russians were trying to land).  They've already lost several hundred dead (if it's 1,500 that would be amazing) and they've lost plenty of transports/vehicles.  

But even if they have all 50,000 or so infantry still alive and functioning and able to move around (logistics do seem to be slowing them down), that's split up all over the country, so at most they might have 30,000 foot soldiers to deal with Kyiv, a city of 3 million people.  Even if only 50,000 Ukrainians were defending it, I don't see 30,000 Russian foot soldiers being enough to actually take and hold the city.  And if they can't clear out large parts of the city, they can't have sustained armor support (tanks or APCs) in there, when St. Javelin can be hiding in a building, waiting to bless them.

This whole thing is really bugging the shit out of me.  

I'm still leaning towards Putin trying to capture Kyiv and capture the east side of the river and trying to run the clock out and get Ukraine to a table to talk.

But I'm also really leaning towards Putin's Yes Men fucking him over and giving him all kinds of false assurances about this being a large enough force.

[Dahobbs 18345]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Never would've guessed it.

I have to think this is a threat evaluation and deployment problem. I just refuse to believe that Russian airpower has fallen this far. 

[TwiceHorn 32092]

12 minutes ago, Eastwood said:

14 minutes ago, Errestaurants said:

If we brought in planes how quickly would we control the air above Ukraine? How much superior is the F22 versus what Russia has?

As close to immediately as militarily possible. A handful of F35s with F22 escorts would wipe out mobile AA pretty quick and then it's Brrrrrt time. But that's just my halfway educated armchair take. I'd gladly listen to someone in the Air Force correct me.

I suspect that between the hardware and the pilots (training), we'd blow them out of the sky with quickness.

Russia is literally about a generation behind our aircraft.  Their "fleet" is mostly F-15 F-18 generation craft.  Tiny numbers of anything more advanced.

They haven't had the money to keep up.

Edited February 26, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[FartingMonk 3625]

Russians don't fly without AWACS.  There will be a lot of high tech jamming going on both sides.  It would be gnarly.  

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

How close are the Ukrainian and Russian languages? Is it late Spanish and Portuguese? Seems like a lot of dual speakers. 

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25 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Worth noting that the Javelin was mostly designed in Dallas, Texas USA.

They also made a version to fit Lamar’s limp-wristed throwing style.

 

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Just now, Immaculate Vibes said:

How close are the Ukrainian and Russian languages? Is it late Spanish and Portuguese? Seems like a lot of dual speakers. 

Very close. I'd say the Portuguese/Spanish difference is about right. 

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7 minutes ago, F250 said:

 

Well, back in the 80's there was that one Russkie.

 

 

 

Buddy, she was a Soviet.

Fair game.

[Brisketexan 106970]

Just as a comforting thought….the only thing more dangerous than Putin winning may en a cornered Putin losing. Desperate madmen do bad shit.

We may end up in this one whether we want it or not.

[Bevo 13904]

1 hour ago, phdhorn said:

csb time:  about 15 years ago I was in Prague with a group.  We were having fun downtown and one guy with us, about 75 at the time, stopped into a novelty shop and bought a Russian Ushanka hat (the kind with the furry side flipped up on all sides) with a big red star pin in the front.  Granted at that time it was almost a chic novelty to wear old Soviet stuff, but this guy's age and everything I cringed when he bought it.  He looked like he could pass for an old, serious Politburo hack.  He wore it out to the sidewalk and I noticed some dirty looks, and I didn't feel too good about him wearing it.  I asked him to take off the red star and once he did he got no looks.

I experienced for the first time there real-life feeling a lot of Europeans had for that regime.  And that was back in the "harmless" days when wearing campy Russian stuff was okay.  I'd imagine it's not so cool now, even moreso.

/csb

I bought some Lenin candles - red candles in the shape of Lenin's face. They lasted a number of years but melted when they were in a garage in Tucson.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Just as a comforting thought….the only thing more dangerous than Putin winning may en a cornered Putin losing. Desperate madmen do bad shit.

We may end up in this one whether we want it or not.

yeah, I don't know the guy personally, but Putin doesn't strike me as a particularly gracious loser.

[Dahobbs 18345]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Very close. I'd say the Portuguese/Spanish difference is about right. 

Thinking about it, it is probably even closer. Portuguese has different letters and sounds. Written, you'd be hard pressed to distinguish Russian and Ukrainian other than the use of some different words. I haven't had much issue reading most of the Ukrainian stuff. 

I only know Brazilian Portuguese, so my comments only apply to that.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Dahobbs

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[Pescado_Rojo 19592]

Assuming Russia has eyes on all our air bases all over the world, how badly would Putin shit his pants if we put all our stealth aircraft in the air. Lightnings, Raptors, B2s...just scramble everything and have refueling assets up at the same time. 

[Message Board User 12409]

LOL at Marge blending into the Ukraine flag.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Message Board User

[Hefeweizen 5445]

 

Here's how you know it's going badly for Russia.

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8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I have to think this is a threat evaluation and deployment problem. I just refuse to believe that Russian airpower has fallen this far. 

It’s a measured response problem.  You can’t just go in and try to tip the scales without the other side threatening to nuke someone.  We aren’t dealing with sane actors.  

[FartingMonk 3625]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Just as a comforting thought….the only thing more dangerous than Putin winning may en a cornered Putin losing. Desperate madmen do bad shit.

We may end up in this one whether we want it or not.

Yeah.  But his demands are way too much.  He's going to have to kill everyone.  He's not going home without Ukraine.

[HOOKEM4 5177]

13 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Wait, do y'all have assigned schedules? I missed the memo. 

[Hefeweizen 5445]

And this is a long thread but worth the read:

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

yeah, I don't know the guy personally, but Putin doesn't strike me as a particularly gracious loser.

I played poker with him once. When I beat him, he stared at me for a minute then told his henchman "Pay this man his money". I was scared shitless for a minute but it worked out. Overall I'd say 5/7. I'd do it again. 

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Zelenskyy still tweeting...