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[InkaUtexas 26948]

4 hours ago, Macanudo said:

What a strange town.   Lots of multi-story apartments in such a small area.

Eastern Europe. Saw that shit across the balkans. Farmers and factory workers have to live somewhere. Centralize it and keep infrastructure costs down. 

[956 Worldwide 35601]

4 hours ago, Macanudo said:

What a strange town.   Lots of multi-story apartments in such a small area.

This was the Soviet model of development. Remember that even farms in the Soviet Union were collectivized, there was no need to stay on “your” plot of land. Soviet city planning preferred space for leisure and activity to be public, not private, allegedly to foster a sense of solidarity and community. They had to allow a small nod to individual space in the form of the dacha— a small cottage with no electricity or water and a plot for a garden. This was mostly to relieve pressure on a planned economy that could not provide enough food via the kolkhoz system. These buildings are khrushchevki or brezhnevki, pre-fab concrete panel blocks of apartments built to respond to union wide housing shortages and a drive to remake cities and villages along a more modern “Soviet” model of big grid avenues, neighbourhood parks, all connected by rail and highway. Eastern European towns occupy a much smaller footprint than American towns of a similar size. But they feel more inhuman than similar size Central or Western European towns with private homes ringing public squares with churches and few lower-rise apartments for town dwellers. The Commies erected similar eyesores outside town centers around the former Pact in a drive to create “new” towns allegedly superior to the old ones. 
 

And, this method of village and town planning is indicative of the ways Russian imperialism imposed itself on Ukrainian’s physical space. Russia, pre-Revolution, had a real tradition of non-state collective farming among free peasants, a reaction to the tougher growing conditions and more hostile environment.  This was foreign to Ukraine, where free peasants almost always had their own land to work. 

[InkaUtexas 26948]

@956 Worldwide  Ever read Imperium by Kapuchinski? I think you would like it. @atomheartbevo you as well. 

Spoke with a Bosnian buddy who now works for DOS. Fucker hates the Russians more than he hates the Serbs. Same doctrine, all that shit. Predicts Ukraine wins. He line that had me laughing was we beat Serbian Armor with Uzi's. And NATO was not with us. We only had the UN. 

Anyways, a good read by a polish author. 

 

[InkaUtexas 26948]

Worth checking out. Damn fine speech. Don't have Telegram so best I can do. Should work. 

 

 

 

[956 Worldwide 35601]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

@956 Worldwide  Ever read Imperium by Kapuchinski? I think you would like it. @atomheartbevo you as well. 

Spoke with a Bosnian buddy who now works for DOS. Fucker hates the Russians more than he hates the Serbs. Same doctrine, all that shit. Predicts Ukraine wins. He line that had me laughing was we beat Serbian Armor with Uzi's. And NATO was not with us. We only had the UN. 

Anyways, a good read by a polish author. 

 

I haven’t, have read some of his other stuff though. It sucks to be at a place where I realize I’ll never catch up on my reading. 

[956 Worldwide 35601]

16 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Worth checking out. Damn fine speech. Don't have Telegram so best I can do. Should work. 

 

 

 

He’s distancing himself and Ukraine more from Russia and the USSR/Russian WWII narrative. The second surrender ceremony in Berlin took place on the 8th, but it was already the 9th in Moscow. So the Soviets made 9 May Victory Day and made all the Pact nations celebrate 9 May, too.

Very healthy to put the Russian 9 May cult in the past and mark VE Day instead. 

[InkaUtexas 26948]

3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I haven’t, have read some of his other stuff though. It sucks to be at a place where I realize I’ll never catch up on my reading. 

Shah of Shahs.... Nuff said. Book shelf if full of all his stuff. Read that one. Do it while watching sports! You will like it. Both of you. 

[InkaUtexas 26948]

Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

He’s distancing himself and Ukraine more from Russia and the USSR/Russian WWII narrative. The second surrender ceremony in Berlin took place on the 8th, but it was already the 9th in Moscow. So the Soviets made 9 May Victory Day and made all the Pact nations celebrate 9 May, too.

Very healthy to put the Russian 9 May cult in the past and mark VE Day instead. 

Yeah, I picked up on that. Move towards EU/Allies and meanwhile remembers the Ukraine provided a lot of first line forces for the USSR. Well done. 

 

I think he is speaking more to Eastern Europe than the west. Notice the use of the We clause. 

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

[956 Worldwide 35601]

28 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

I can’t see how placing hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants who face deep discrimination and hostility in Russian society in arms might possibly backfire. 

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

[atomheartbevo 90673]

11 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I can’t see how placing hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants who face deep discrimination and hostility in Russian society in arms might possibly backfire. 

I'm sure they will get the best equipment and plenty of ammo.

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Schulz2.0

[Macanudo 13339]

6 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This was the Soviet model of development. Remember that even farms in the Soviet Union were collectivized, there was no need to stay on “your” plot of land. Soviet city planning preferred space for leisure and activity to be public, not private, allegedly to foster a sense of solidarity and community. They had to allow a small nod to individual space in the form of the dacha— a small cottage with no electricity or water and a plot for a garden. This was mostly to relieve pressure on a planned economy that could not provide enough food via the kolkhoz system. These buildings are khrushchevki or brezhnevki, pre-fab concrete panel blocks of apartments built to respond to union wide housing shortages and a drive to remake cities and villages along a more modern “Soviet” model of big grid avenues, neighbourhood parks, all connected by rail and highway. Eastern European towns occupy a much smaller footprint than American towns of a similar size. But they feel more inhuman than similar size Central or Western European towns with private homes ringing public squares with churches and few lower-rise apartments for town dwellers. The Commies erected similar eyesores outside town centers around the former Pact in a drive to create “new” towns allegedly superior to the old ones. 
 

And, this method of village and town planning is indicative of the ways Russian imperialism imposed itself on Ukrainian’s physical space. Russia, pre-Revolution, had a real tradition of non-state collective farming among free peasants, a reaction to the tougher growing conditions and more hostile environment.  This was foreign to Ukraine, where free peasants almost always had their own land to work. 

Thanks for the reply.   I was used to seeing this in larger cities in eastern Europe, especially those who suffered significant damage in WWII.   Didn't occur to me that the Soviets did it EVERYWHERE.   

[MissingInAction 25592]

Ever been to college Station? 

[956 Worldwide 35601]

40 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Thanks for the reply.   I was used to seeing this in larger cities in eastern Europe, especially those who suffered significant damage in WWII.   Didn't occur to me that the Soviets did it EVERYWHERE.   

Yep, including Central Asia where they REALLY are out of place. It’s a defining feature of the post-Soviet space. 
 

And although it’s shorthand to call these blocks “Stalinist,” they came later. Stalinist architecture gave much more of a nod to a (type of) aesthetic and Stalinky are better built and more comfortable to boot. Stalinist apartments are in great demand. Krushschev slammed them as “excessive”.

[RDCanecutter 26921]

19 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yep, including Central Asia where they REALLY are out of place. It’s a defining feature of the post-Soviet space. 
 

And although it’s shorthand to call these blocks “Stalinist,” they came later. Stalinist architecture gave much more of a nod to a (type of) aesthetic and Stalinky are better built and more comfortable to boot. Stalinist apartments are in great demand. Krushschev slammed them as “excessive”.

Man, if I could get one with the big corner windows pouring in light, no telling how much Socialist Realism art I could crank out. Would just have to get the damn ballerinas to quit jumping around.

[Viper 12221]

I guess this can go here, watch until the end. 

explanation in one of the first few comments 

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The reporter was talking about the celbrations, a drunk VDV (airborne forces) stepped into the frame and started yelling “MY COUNTRY CYKA BLYAT (doesn’t need translation) WE WILL CONQUER UKRAINE BLYAT…”, the reporter asked him not to interrupt and got punched in the face because “HOW DARE YOU TALK TO ME LIKE THAT?” Funnily enough, even on propagandist Russian state TV the report was titled “The spill of the blue” where “blue” is a common term to refer to alcohol/alcoholism. Important context: it’s very common in Russia for VDV veterans to get absolutely shitfaced and swim in a public fountain on the VDV day (you can even see it in the clip). Here’s a longer [clip](https://youtu.be/IHYiy7B71H4).

 

[MissingInAction 25592]

Hmmmm, Russians are cunts. Who knew?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Re: 25m troops. 

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Up to 34 million soldiers served in the Red Army during World War II, 8 million of which were non-Slavic minorities. Officially, the Red Army lost 6,329,600 killed in action (KIA), 555,400 deaths by disease and 4,559,000 missing in action (MIA) (mostly captured).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army#:~:text=Up to 34 million soldiers,MIA) (mostly captured).

 

Three Day Special Military Operation only needs to be the size of WWII for them to meet their goals.  

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

[Bevo 13924]

55 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yep, including Central Asia where they REALLY are out of place. It’s a defining feature of the post-Soviet space. 
 

And although it’s shorthand to call these blocks “Stalinist,” they came later. Stalinist architecture gave much more of a nod to a (type of) aesthetic and Stalinky are better built and more comfortable to boot. Stalinist apartments are in great demand. Krushschev slammed them as “excessive”.

I lived in one in Ostrava, CZ. It was part of Nova hut which was a large steel factory that employed roughly 60,000. I was in a penthouse of an all white cement hug apartment complex near the factory. The complex served meals in a cafeteria. They had management that wouldn't allow people to stay over. I had a girlfriend who would get me in trouble but I think they were a little more lenient because I was American and it was too hard for them to argue with me.  The penthouse was nice enough but I have a feeling that the other apartments weren't too great. The management seemed to be unfriendly towards me because I was in the nice section.

[Brisketexan 107011]

17 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Probably the fact that they get to do this in Germany, not Russia.  Because irony is dead.

[Rimbo 27090]

 

[Rimbo 27090]

 

[Rimbo 27090]

philips p O'Brien spams twatter more than milllerep spams this thread

[956 Worldwide 35601]

This goes back to even (at least) Roman times. One big reason that the Legions rolled over not just barbarians, but more sophisticated foes, was that every night they bedded down in a familiar, orderly, temporarily fortified camp where they ate and went to sleep while their opponents shivered in the cold.  Roman generals factored in the time and supplies to build a camp when campaigning. 

[texastough 1144]

12 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

philips p O'Brien spams twatter more than milllerep spams this thread

MillerEP has been the main guy here doing work, wtf are you talking about? You think we'd rather read your useless comments?

[Bevo 13924]

 

 

 

 

Housing I was talking about upthread. I think they have been converted from worker housing to a hotel but my Czech is special needs.

[956 Worldwide 35601]

7 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

 

 

 

Housing I was talking about upthread. I think they have been converted from worker housing to a hotel but my Czech is special needs.

These are called panelaki (panel buildings) in Czech and Slovak. Same principle, a bit better made. Same idea of the housing estate. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

21 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This goes back to even (at least) Roman times. One big reason that the Legions rolled over not just barbarians, but more sophisticated foes, was that every night they bedded down in a familiar, orderly, temporarily fortified camp where they ate and went to sleep while their opponents shivered in the cold.  Roman generals factored in the time and supplies to build a camp when campaigning. 

what in god's name is this.  real?  not real?  actual chinese propaganda where they picked a photo of us looking like our army is made entirely of the predator cast?

[Rimbo 27090]

23 minutes ago, texastough said:

MillerEP has been the main guy here doing work, wtf are you talking about? You think we'd rather read your useless comments?

So I shouldn't share more curated Philips P O'Brien posts and retweets?

[MillerEP 30907]

 

[Stilicho 1422]

Oligarchy in Action!

[Agent 13 319]

33 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

what in god's name is this.  real?  not real?  actual chinese propaganda where they picked a photo of us looking like our army is made entirely of the predator cast?

And did they really have to show the black dude be the one eating the fried chicken? 

[RDCanecutter 26921]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This goes back to even (at least) Roman times. One big reason that the Legions rolled over not just barbarians, but more sophisticated foes, was that every night they bedded down in a familiar, orderly, temporarily fortified camp where they ate and went to sleep while their opponents shivered in the cold.  Roman generals factored in the time and supplies to build a camp when campaigning. 

Plus, when the Romans fucked up, as even Caesar sometimes did, they usually managed to jump back into the fortified camp to sort things out for another day, instead of getting chased through the fields for 20 miles getting pig-stuck by the opposing cavalry, which was the fate of those who broke.

[RDCanecutter 26921]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

 

 

 

 

Housing I was talking about upthread. I think they have been converted from worker housing to a hotel but my Czech is special needs.

Nekkid girlfriend pics not loading.

[Scheiss Meister 8475]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This goes back to even (at least) Roman times. One big reason that the Legions rolled over not just barbarians, but more sophisticated foes, was that every night they bedded down in a familiar, orderly, temporarily fortified camp where they ate and went to sleep while their opponents shivered in the cold.  Roman generals factored in the time and supplies to build a camp when campaigning. 

Silly fuckers must not remember Chosin.  A Marine regiment, an Army combat team, and a battalion of Brits wiped something like three entire Chinese divisions off the map.  Not depleted them enough that they had to pull back and reconstitute for a year, they ceased to exist.  And the UN forces also mauled two or three more divisions enough that they had to be pulled out of the line.  Silly fuckers. 

[Gravy Train 976]

From my Estonian buddy on another forum, it seems Russia is quite dedicated to their propaganda game.  They cleared out trees, leveled the ground, built a stage, and will blast their Victory Day concert across the river.

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A square has been built on the Russian side of the Narva River for the purpose of organizing a concert tomorrow, May 9. The Russian-language Delfi has already reported that the Ivangorod city government plans to organize a concert and show it on a big screen so that Narva residents can see it.

Left side of river is EU & NATO (Estonia), right side is Russia.

https://www.delfi.ee/artikkel/120184052/foto-venemaa-korraldab-narvalastele-ule-joe-9-mai-kontserdi

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A square has been built on the Russian side of the Narva River for the purpose of organizing a concert tomorrow, May 9. The Russian-language Delfi has already reported that the Ivangorod city government plans to organize a concert and show it on a big screen so that Narva residents can see it.
Kalmer Janno, a representative of the Narva police, answered a few days ago the question whether the police are going to do something if there is a concert like this with a big screen and loud sound, because nothing is being built on the river bank near the Ivangorod fortress. But now the trees have been taken down and the square leveled, and the metal structure for the big stage has also been erected. The police have not yet responded.

In Ivangorod, patriotic concerts have also been organized on the river bank on May 9. For example, last year, people stood on Narva promenade with flowers and listened to war songs. Such interest was probably caused by the fact that public events are prohibited in Estonia on May 9.

This year, the people of Narva are actively commenting on the news about the concert in various groups on social media and on their pages, who post photos from the Ivangorod side of the river. Some joke that all Narva residents who go to Ivangorod will be recorded with a camera and they will lose their residence permit, some express regret that Ivangorod wastes money on such a play, instead of improving the lives of the townspeople, some recall Russia's previous propaganda achievements, some claim that the promenade will be closed , that there would be no audience at the concert. It is generally seen as trolling by the neighboring country, while others are waiting with interest to see what will actually happen at the Friendship Bridge on May 9. There are also those who support Russia's idea of celebrating the holiday on such a large scale.

In any case, the police act within the framework of the law. If concert-goers create a chaotic gathering with speeches supporting an aggressive regime, they will be detained. Unless something illegal is being done, the police are not going to get involved.

[Bevo 13924]

26 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Nekkid girlfriend pics not loading.

Unfortunately this was before cellphone cameras so not digital.

[Schulz2.0 29289]

 

[Rimbo 27090]

Can't link the original thread because Twitter is owned by a vatnik. You'll have to click through.

Apologies to @texastough for adding another one of my "useless comments"

Edited May 8, 2023 by Rimbo

[Pato del Muerto 53589]

Pretty pissy for someone who just called out another poster himself. 

[Rimbo 27090]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Pretty pissy for someone who just called out another poster himself. 

I wasn't calling out MillerEP, and I'm sorry if anyone got that idea.

[Rimbo 27090]

On the bright side, the punchline of that thread is able to be embedded. 🤷

[Pato del Muerto 53589]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

I wasn't calling out MillerEP, and I'm sorry if anyone got that idea.

I accept this as sincere, but now am just confused at what I thought I read. 

[Incredulity 11880]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I accept this as sincere, but now am just confused at what I thought I read. 

Forget it Pato, it's Surly.

[RDCanecutter 26921]

32 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Unfortunately this was before cellphone cameras so not digital.

Damn, at least do a quick sketch on a napkin.

[The Dog 44865]