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[MillerEP 30,907]

 

[Tuco 5,094]

14 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Here's some nightmare fuel for those who fear the evil Nazi dead:

I don't know what's creepier: the skull still wearing his Stahlhelm, or the fact that people have been drinking water from the reservoir for 70 years.

That's got to be a weird dynamic.  Do you celebrate when your dead Nazi great-grandfather is returned?  What's the protocol here? 

[SL Xpress 7,609]

7 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

were those dead russians at the end or ukrainians?

Yeah, those were Russians. 

In the video you can see they're equipped with bolt action rifles from the camera shots inside the trench. They don't really stand a chance against AKs. Doesn't make it less dangerous for the guys on the assault squad, though. As you can see from the video, they can still get hit. And these positions have to be neutralized one by one. No shortcuts. 

[The Dog 44,869]

 

[The Dog 44,869]

 

[Chad Fuck 18,167]

29 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Here's some nightmare fuel for those who fear the evil Nazi dead:

I don't know what's creepier: the skull still wearing his Stahlhelm, or the fact that people have been drinking water from the reservoir for 70 years.

I couldn't see the pic for some reason.  

[The Dog 44,869]

 

[SL Xpress 7,609]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

There is zero chance this is going to go well for the Russians. Looks like a case of use 'em or lose 'em based on this map. But who knows. There's so much horseshit on the Russian side it's hard to wade through it all. But I have no confidence in Russian leadership to have any kind of tactical awareness beyond meat into the meat grinder. It's not like they're sending in specially trained assault troops. It's just whoever is handy. It's some kind of delaying action - if it's even real. 

As an aside, I am very impressed with Ukraine's ability to maintain the offensive along so many vectors. I hope they're able to keep some momentum going. 

[Ghost of LL 15,705]

5 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I couldn't see the pic for some reason.  

https://twitter.com/PatriotGor/status/1667977179433508865

[RDCanecutter 26,927]

35 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Here's some nightmare fuel for those who fear the evil Nazi dead:

I don't know what's creepier: the skull still wearing his Stahlhelm, or the fact that people have been drinking water from the reservoir for 70 years.

You gonna eat those clams? Eye-socket clams are part of my next restaurant tasting menu.

[Brisketexan 107,042]

1 minute ago, RDCanecutter said:

You gonna eat those clams? Eye-socket clams are part of my next restaurant tasting menu.

Sorry, I'm a pelvic bone oysters man myself.

[RDCanecutter 26,927]

17 minutes ago, Tuco said:

That's got to be a weird dynamic.  Do you celebrate when your dead Nazi great-grandfather is returned?  What's the protocol here? 

The proper German thing is to tell stories about how he secretly didn't like Hitler ("Nobody liked Hitler!") and then talk about other things, forever.

[SL Xpress 7,609]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

When she says "we'll do nothing," what does that actually mean? What exactly is Germany/NATO supposed to do to stop Russia from mining a titanium dioxide manufacturing plant? 

Doing nothing was 2014. What we're seeing now is most definitely doing something. It could be more, but it sure could be a whole lot less, too. 

[Bevo 13,930]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sorry, I'm a pelvic bone oysters man myself.

Rocky mountain oysters?

[MissingInAction 25,604]

20 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I couldn't see the pic for some reason.  

So you're saying you did nazi the pic?

Edited June 12, 2023 by MissingInAction

[Rimbo 27,092]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

For @Rimbo

 

 

[SL Xpress 7,609]

Ukraine-Germany soccer match breaks out into chants of solidarity:

 

[Ten Bears 2,500]

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

Here's a really good video of an assault in the direction of Bakhmut. I only know this because it's the 3rd Separate Assault brigade and that's where they're operating. These are generally very experienced fighters working with older kit. 

 

It looked like the Ukes took a grenade at the 1:20 mark.  Our hero appears to self apply a tourniquet to his arm afterward. I don't think his buddies in the trench with fared as well.

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[Doc Sam Beckett 5,911]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If that's true, and I'm having a hard time believing it, but if the Russian Army is going into "shoot-to-kill" mode when encountering Wagner, well they know Wagner is armed, right?

This is fucking insane.

I'll believe it when Prigozhin is dead.

I can't wrap my head around that.

 

[Chad Fuck 18,167]

14 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

"...if we don't die tonight because they have night vision goggles and we don't."

[HOOKEM4 5,200]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Sorry, I'm a pelvic bone oysters man myself.

Ffs. It was sitting there on a tee for you. You swung and missed my man. 

Clam...

[Bevo 13,930]

Meet Ukraine's Witch, the lawyer who became a mortar commander fighting Russians in Bakhmut

Story by By Europe bureau chief Steve Cannane and West Matteeussen in eastern Ukraine • 29 May

 

 

Olha Bihar is a 31-year-old commander of a mortar unit and a veteran of the Battle of Bakhmut.  (ABC News: West Matteeussen) © Provided by ABC News (AU)

 

 

Before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Olha Bihar was a lawyer working for a firm in Kyiv while completing her PhD in tax law.

Fifteen months later, the 31-year-old is a commander of a mortar unit, an artillery officer and a veteran of the Battle of Bakhmut with the call sign, Witch. 

The origins of that name remain almost as secretive as the start date of Ukraine's long awaited counteroffensive.

"My call sign is from 2014. I'll tell the story about my call sign. But after the war," she told the ABC during a break from weapons training at a secret location in eastern Ukraine.

Olha's unit spent five months on the front lines of the Battle of Bakhmut, fighting Russian forces in one of the bloodiest battles of the 21st century.

"In Bakhmut you understand that your life and all things that you thought before were important are not important," she said.

"You see buildings and houses blowing up and people dying, and you understand at that moment that we have something more important than money, than real estate, than cars.

"We have a very important thing: Our freedom, democracy and law."

As well as launching artillery at Russian forces, Olha has been publishing videos on TikTok about life on the front lines. 

How a young mum became a warrior 

On February 24 last year, Olha woke to the sound of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine's capital.

She went to her 18-year-old brother's room and asked him if he wanted to leave the city.

"He said, 'No, I want to defend my country'," she said.

The next day, Olha, her brother and mother joined a long queue and enlisted with Ukraine's armed forces.

Her mother and brother are now serving as combat medics.

As she prepares for the much-anticipated counteroffensive, the junior lieutenant has an extra sense of motivation.

She is fighting for a better future for her seven-year-old son.

He has spent the past 15 months living with his aunt in another country.

"One week before the invasion, I got information that Russia was ready for war," she said. 

"So I just bought the tickets, and I told my son that it's better to be in a safe place. For him, it's a little bit difficult because he likes his school, his friends, and he is asking me every time, 'Mum, when I can go back home?'

"I say to him 'a little bit later, please'. I'm happy that he never heard the sounds of explosions, and never heard the sound of sirens. It's important for his psychological health."

To explain why she made the sacrifice of being separated from her son, Olha quoted her younger brother who had just won a law scholarship to study at Kyiv University.

"My brother said, 'I don't want to study law because we don't need to study law if Russia comes to our country. There is no law in Russia and people have no rules'," she said.

"So we have to defend our country. And then we can think about the future."

Olha's family are originally from Kramatorsk in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

She was there when Russian-backed separatists seized government buildings in 2014 at the beginning of the war.

For her, this is another motivation to stay and fight.

"I was a witness to Russian crimes, military crimes in 2014 when they entered our territories and took control," she said. 

 

"People got killed and tortured, and I cannot live with these things. I have to defend my country."

Inside the Battle of Bakhmut

In the long days and nights on the front lines in Bakhmut, Olha said she got to know her enemy.

"In Bakhmut we've seen the real face of Russia. The face of murder. We've seen cruelties and medieval things," she said. 

Her unit, which serves inside the 241st Brigade, fought against the notorious Wagner mercenary group and other battalions from the Russian armed forces.

Wagner famously recruited murderers, rapists and drug dealers from inside the Russian prison system.

Their founder Yevgeny Prigozhin has estimated that 20,000 of their troops died in the city. 

Previously Wagner mercenaries have been accused of filming the execution of two of their recruits with sledgehammers after they allegedly deserted their units.

Olha described Wagner units as "the most cruel and mad" she came up against and said they forced their own troops at gunpoint to de-mine her unit's defensive positions.

"They were using people for de-mining territories. That's medieval. They were doing it to make a hole in our defence and then to attack our positions," she says.

"Behind them were guys with machine guns in case they decided to go back, their commanders would kill them."

By contrast, Olha said her unit always looks out for each other.

"Morale is very important for every unit. We are friends. Your team is your shelter. If there is bad morale, all of us could die," she said. 

Of 42 members of her unit, only three were professional soldiers prior to the invasion.

Their ranks include lawyers, an economist, a surgeon and businessmen.

"But after a year of war and three times in Bakhmut, probably all of us are professionals now," she laughed. 

"All of them have decided that the freedom is very important for them, and they can die for freedom."

While some questioned Ukraine's strategy of trying to hold Bakhmut for as long as it could, Olha is adamant it made tactical sense.

"It was the right strategy. Because if you put a finger in the mouths of Russians, they will bite off an arm," she said. 

"I think that we performed our combat task perfectly … their assault potential is now lower than before."

Dispatches from the front

While fighting in Bakhmut, Olha became a hit on TikTok, gaining over 130,000 followers thanks to her daily dispatches from the front lines.

"That was not my idea," she said laughing.

"I have a friend, and he said, 'You know, people in Ukraine don't have the right information about Bakhmut. They think that everything is very bad. So can you make a small video?'

"Then I tried to make a video every day in Bakhmut and people started to be more confident in our success."

With her growing online following, the woman known as Witch has become one of the faces of Ukraine's resistance against Russian invaders. 

Soon, she expects to be involved in Ukraine's counteroffensive, which could begin at any moment. 

Like all units that have been rotated from out of the front lines, Olha's platoon has been busy familiarising themselves with new equipment and tactics.

"We have been studying and training so much for the counteroffensive," she said. 

"We've trained every day and have had very difficult, very exhausting trainings."

Olha said her unit is confident they and the rest of Ukraine's armed forces can do the job when the time comes.

"We have the support of our allies. We have good weapons. We have high motivation. We have really good people who knows how to fight, with good battle experience," she said. 

"So I'm sure that the counteroffensive will be successful."

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That major general that @MillerEP mentioned being killed....was kind of a major...general

 

[RDCanecutter 26,927]

7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That major general that @MillerEP mentioned being killed....was kind of a major...general

 

VDV? As in those striped-shirt paratrooper goons who went nuts in Bucha?

One less trial.

[Gatorubet 30,792]

2 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

VDV? As in those striped-shirt paratrooper goons who went nuts in Bucha?

One less trial.

Next year’s Paratrooper Day celebration guys can all fit on the one T-34 tank. 

[UpperWestside 6,285]

3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

What?  No way.  The Russian Army is now at war with Wagner AND the Ukraine?  

 

Welcome to what the Russian army has been since, well, forever. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed and I willl go so far as to call them a 3rd World army that, unfortunately, has nukes.

[KYHorn 17,644]

Oh now that's interesting.

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904?t=VZbSc_aMJjb99nD9eXHlJA&s=19 

If Ukraine manages to liberate Staromlynivka and surrounding areas, which I think it is the short term goal in this phase, the possible HIMARS range complicates the Russian logistics very much

[Chad Fuck 18,167]

45 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Next year’s Paratrooper Day celebration guys can all fit on the one T-34 tank. 

I have found driver, yes?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

2 hours ago, Tuco said:

That's got to be a weird dynamic.  Do you celebrate when your dead Nazi great-grandfather is returned?  What's the protocol here? 

so it sounds like russia is in fact denazifying ukraine.

 

vlad, you fucking did it.

[Ten Bears 2,500]

The only thing better than Ukrainians killing Russians is Russians killing Russians.

 

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,593]

43 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Oh now that's interesting.

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1668184236317179904?t=VZbSc_aMJjb99nD9eXHlJA&s=19 

If Ukraine manages to liberate Staromlynivka and surrounding areas, which I think it is the short term goal in this phase, the possible HIMARS range complicates the Russian logistics very much

[Parliament 14,620]

3 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

Ukraine-Germany soccer match breaks out into chants of solidarity:

 

What are they gonna do when the Abrams's show up? Go to an Eagles game?

[Gatorubet 30,792]

51 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

The only thing better than Ukrainians killing Russians is Russians killing Russians.

 

I really have no way to figure out whether this thing is real or propaganda.   I’m pretty damn sure Ukraine has no reason to fake this. They want the orcs to surrender and quit. But this is totally in keeping with Russia’s military history. 

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[KYHorn 17,644]

 

 

The leader of the Wagner group Evgenii Prigozhin disclosed, in a recently published letter to MoD, the amount of money spent on Wagner by the Russian government, about $2.5 billion over 2014-2022: agents.media/prigozhin-rask…. The financing goes through the civilian food procurement.

@WSJ has recently estimated that Wagner/Prigozhin received food procurement contracts for about $5 billion over the same period: wsj.com/video/series/s….

[Zonahorn 8,079]

4 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

You lost another general

[SL Xpress 7,609]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

Meet Ukraine's Witch, the lawyer who became a mortar commander fighting Russians in Bakhmut

Story by By Europe bureau chief Steve Cannane and West Matteeussen in eastern Ukraine • 29 May

 

 

Olha Bihar is a 31-year-old commander of a mortar unit and a veteran of the Battle of Bakhmut.  (ABC News: West Matteeussen) © Provided by ABC News (AU)

 

 

Before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Olha Bihar was a lawyer working for a firm in Kyiv while completing her PhD in tax law.

Fifteen months later, the 31-year-old is a commander of a mortar unit, an artillery officer and a veteran of the Battle of Bakhmut with the call sign, Witch. 

The origins of that name remain almost as secretive as the start date of Ukraine's long awaited counteroffensive.

"My call sign is from 2014. I'll tell the story about my call sign. But after the war," she told the ABC during a break from weapons training at a secret location in eastern Ukraine.

Olha's unit spent five months on the front lines of the Battle of Bakhmut, fighting Russian forces in one of the bloodiest battles of the 21st century.

"In Bakhmut you understand that your life and all things that you thought before were important are not important," she said.

"You see buildings and houses blowing up and people dying, and you understand at that moment that we have something more important than money, than real estate, than cars.

"We have a very important thing: Our freedom, democracy and law."

As well as launching artillery at Russian forces, Olha has been publishing videos on TikTok about life on the front lines. 

How a young mum became a warrior 

On February 24 last year, Olha woke to the sound of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine's capital.

She went to her 18-year-old brother's room and asked him if he wanted to leave the city.

"He said, 'No, I want to defend my country'," she said.

The next day, Olha, her brother and mother joined a long queue and enlisted with Ukraine's armed forces.

Her mother and brother are now serving as combat medics.

As she prepares for the much-anticipated counteroffensive, the junior lieutenant has an extra sense of motivation.

She is fighting for a better future for her seven-year-old son.

He has spent the past 15 months living with his aunt in another country.

"One week before the invasion, I got information that Russia was ready for war," she said. 

"So I just bought the tickets, and I told my son that it's better to be in a safe place. For him, it's a little bit difficult because he likes his school, his friends, and he is asking me every time, 'Mum, when I can go back home?'

"I say to him 'a little bit later, please'. I'm happy that he never heard the sounds of explosions, and never heard the sound of sirens. It's important for his psychological health."

To explain why she made the sacrifice of being separated from her son, Olha quoted her younger brother who had just won a law scholarship to study at Kyiv University.

"My brother said, 'I don't want to study law because we don't need to study law if Russia comes to our country. There is no law in Russia and people have no rules'," she said.

"So we have to defend our country. And then we can think about the future."

Olha's family are originally from Kramatorsk in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

She was there when Russian-backed separatists seized government buildings in 2014 at the beginning of the war.

For her, this is another motivation to stay and fight.

"I was a witness to Russian crimes, military crimes in 2014 when they entered our territories and took control," she said. 

 

"People got killed and tortured, and I cannot live with these things. I have to defend my country."

Inside the Battle of Bakhmut

In the long days and nights on the front lines in Bakhmut, Olha said she got to know her enemy.

"In Bakhmut we've seen the real face of Russia. The face of murder. We've seen cruelties and medieval things," she said. 

Her unit, which serves inside the 241st Brigade, fought against the notorious Wagner mercenary group and other battalions from the Russian armed forces.

Wagner famously recruited murderers, rapists and drug dealers from inside the Russian prison system.

Their founder Yevgeny Prigozhin has estimated that 20,000 of their troops died in the city. 

Previously Wagner mercenaries have been accused of filming the execution of two of their recruits with sledgehammers after they allegedly deserted their units.

Olha described Wagner units as "the most cruel and mad" she came up against and said they forced their own troops at gunpoint to de-mine her unit's defensive positions.

"They were using people for de-mining territories. That's medieval. They were doing it to make a hole in our defence and then to attack our positions," she says.

"Behind them were guys with machine guns in case they decided to go back, their commanders would kill them."

By contrast, Olha said her unit always looks out for each other.

"Morale is very important for every unit. We are friends. Your team is your shelter. If there is bad morale, all of us could die," she said. 

Of 42 members of her unit, only three were professional soldiers prior to the invasion.

Their ranks include lawyers, an economist, a surgeon and businessmen.

"But after a year of war and three times in Bakhmut, probably all of us are professionals now," she laughed. 

"All of them have decided that the freedom is very important for them, and they can die for freedom."

While some questioned Ukraine's strategy of trying to hold Bakhmut for as long as it could, Olha is adamant it made tactical sense.

"It was the right strategy. Because if you put a finger in the mouths of Russians, they will bite off an arm," she said. 

"I think that we performed our combat task perfectly … their assault potential is now lower than before."

Dispatches from the front

While fighting in Bakhmut, Olha became a hit on TikTok, gaining over 130,000 followers thanks to her daily dispatches from the front lines.

"That was not my idea," she said laughing.

"I have a friend, and he said, 'You know, people in Ukraine don't have the right information about Bakhmut. They think that everything is very bad. So can you make a small video?'

"Then I tried to make a video every day in Bakhmut and people started to be more confident in our success."

With her growing online following, the woman known as Witch has become one of the faces of Ukraine's resistance against Russian invaders. 

Soon, she expects to be involved in Ukraine's counteroffensive, which could begin at any moment. 

Like all units that have been rotated from out of the front lines, Olha's platoon has been busy familiarising themselves with new equipment and tactics.

"We have been studying and training so much for the counteroffensive," she said. 

"We've trained every day and have had very difficult, very exhausting trainings."

Olha said her unit is confident they and the rest of Ukraine's armed forces can do the job when the time comes.

"We have the support of our allies. We have good weapons. We have high motivation. We have really good people who knows how to fight, with good battle experience," she said. 

"So I'm sure that the counteroffensive will be successful."

She’s a future president of Ukraine. No doubt about it.

And she doesn’t know how much she wants @Brisketexan yet. She’ll learn, though. They all do. 

Edited June 13, 2023 by SL Xpress

[KYHorn 17,644]

https://twitter.com/UkrainianCrew/status/1668433302947262465?t=fPDxPTqLKTqi1hzCJ7jrDQ&s=19 

Russian terrorists destroyed a residential high-rise building in Ukraine's Kryvyi Rih. Multiple victims. Russia must be levelled to the ground. 

[atomheartbevo 90,683]

[Scheiss Meister 8,477]

I love seeing the Quaker tanks and guns wasting Russian ammo and time.  Keep it up, guys!

[Parliament 14,620]

It also preseves the vaunted Ukrainian "John Deere" battalion. 

[MissingInAction 25,604]

 

 

[MillerEP 30,907]

^

Press release

June 11, 2023

Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Address

Statement of treason by the Wagner group

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation issues the following press release

Defense Department. The Russian Federation has received information that the Wagner Group, a private water company operating in various regions, has repeatedly engaged in activities aimed at discrediting the Ministry of Defense and undermining the security and integrity of the Russian Federation. Such actions are recognized as a clear act of treason against the state and its institutions.

The Department of Defense views this behavior with great concern, as it not only undermines our national security, but also endangers stability and peace in the regions where the Wagner Group operates. We have carefully observed and closely followed the activities of the "Wagner Group" over a long period of time and have found strong evidence to support these claims.

The actions of the "Wagner Group" included spreading false information, disinformation and

conducting authorized military operations that directly contradict the interests of the Russian Federation. These actions were carried out independently and without the approval or approval of the Ministry of Defense or other relevant Russian authorities.

Considering the seriousness of these crimes and the continued disregard for the laws and principles governing the security of our country. The Ministry of Defense officially declares members of the "Wagner Group" as traitors to the Russian Federation. This designation means that he deliberately betrayed the trust placed in them, acting contrary to the best interests of the state and its citizens.

Consequently, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is issuing a warning to all parties associated with the "Wagner Group, directly or indirectly, to immediately cease any form of support, cooperation or affiliation with this organization. Failure to comply with this instruction may entail serious legal consequences, including, but not limited, criminal charges and prosecution under Russian law

property. The Ministry of Defense remains committed to ensuring the security and sovereignty of the Russian Federation, and we will continue to take decisive action against any threats, both external and internal, that threaten the interests of our country.

[atomheartbevo 90,683]

Prigozhin publicly talked about how Shoigu should be eliminated.

edit: Even if it were misinformation, you don't need many Russian soldiers and Wagner mercenaries to believe it in order for it to come true.

edit #2: The fact that Prigozhin publicly wanted Shoigu/Gerasimov dead probably means it's true. No way they could allow that talk to continue.

Edited June 13, 2023 by atomheartbevo

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[BamaATL 16,593]

28 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^

Press release

June 11, 2023

Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Address

Statement of treason by the Wagner group

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation issues the following press release

Defense Department. The Russian Federation has received information that the Wagner Group, a private water company operating in various regions, has repeatedly engaged in activities aimed at discrediting the Ministry of Defense and undermining the security and integrity of the Russian Federation. Such actions are recognized as a clear act of treason against the state and its institutions.

The Department of Defense views this behavior with great concern, as it not only undermines our national security, but also endangers stability and peace in the regions where the Wagner Group operates. We have carefully observed and closely followed the activities of the "Wagner Group" over a long period of time and have found strong evidence to support these claims.

The actions of the "Wagner Group" included spreading false information, disinformation and

conducting authorized military operations that directly contradict the interests of the Russian Federation. These actions were carried out independently and without the approval or approval of the Ministry of Defense or other relevant Russian authorities.

Considering the seriousness of these crimes and the continued disregard for the laws and principles governing the security of our country. The Ministry of Defense officially declares members of the "Wagner Group" as traitors to the Russian Federation. This designation means that he deliberately betrayed the trust placed in them, acting contrary to the best interests of the state and its citizens.

Consequently, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is issuing a warning to all parties associated with the "Wagner Group, directly or indirectly, to immediately cease any form of support, cooperation or affiliation with this organization. Failure to comply with this instruction may entail serious legal consequences, including, but not limited, criminal charges and prosecution under Russian law

property. The Ministry of Defense remains committed to ensuring the security and sovereignty of the Russian Federation, and we will continue to take decisive action against any threats, both external and internal, that threaten the interests of our country.

That's a bold strategy, let's see how it plays out for them.  

 

So basically, either Putin now sees Wagner as a rabid dog he has to put down or Shoigu has essentially started a coup.  

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People are saying the Shoigu orders are bullshit, but at the same time, Prigozhin was running his mouth over the past few months trashing the shit out of Shoigu (and calling for him to be put on trial), and apparently the orders that Wagner is to come under Russian military control by the end of the month are true.

Some of the analysts are saying Shoigu is putting Wagner under his control because of the video that Prigozhin put out last month that showed the bodies of Wagner mercs that were killed, and putting the blame on Shoigu and bitching about his and Gerasimov's kids out at the night clubs, etc.

Edited June 13, 2023 by atomheartbevo

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