Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

 

[WBT 20,561]

Someone's Risk board is all fucked up

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

Poland is pissed that the coup didn't produce any fireworks so they're trying their best to restart it.

 

 

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

 

[Armybrat 40,829]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Poland is pissed that the coup didn't produce any fireworks so they're trying their best to restart it.

 

 

How many Poles does it take to change a Belarus? 

[G650 14,248]

14 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Recap for non-plugged in person… rebellion is over correct? My 4-hour prediction was only off by a handful of hours. 

 

So you can't tell time either?

[nbmishoid 949]

7 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Poland is pissed that the coup didn't produce any fireworks so they're trying their best to restart it.

 

 Bristling forces on the East could negate any threat from Belarus to Ukraine.

Edited June 24, 2023 by nbmishoid

[Biff Tannen 45,672]

1 hour ago, G650 said:

So he is going to Belarus. Wat

Simulation

[Gatorubet 30,191]

25 minutes ago, statsman said:

So, number 4?

[G650 14,248]

I'm sure we will eventually have more clarity on this, but my current speculation is that via Lukashenko, Putin sent Prigozhin a message that cruise missles or some such were aimed at him. It's not in Putin's interest to have mass bloodshed in Russia, so I think he was really looking for anyway to get Prigozhin out of the country. Offer asylum in Belarus, give his fighters immunity.

 

Probably going to assassinate Prigozhin in about a month or so

Edited June 24, 2023 by G650
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[Neonmoon 38,129]

Pringles withdrew because Putin gave in to his demands. Shogun will be fired and Pringles gets to keep Wagner PMC. No Wagners are required to sign MOD contract anymore. Putin gets to keep power for now but he’s weak AF

[Rimbo 25,917]

God fucking dammit.

[G650 14,248]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

Pringles gets to keep Wagner PMC

That's not what is being reported. The Wagners that didn't participate get brought into MOD as planned. The ones that did get discharged and pardoned.

 

 

[YGIFS 19,450]

Do they have tall windows in Belarus?  Asking for a friend.  

[statsman 5,457]

8 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Akhmat…if you’re not armed, they are the last people you want to encounter. If you are armed, you probably have nothing to worry about. 

[Gengs1 2,583]

So he is getting the whole country of Belarus as punishment? Like the current dude will die and he will take over. 
start some shot against nato to distract Russia etc?

[MissingInAction 25,029]

2 hours ago, Chooky said:

Russia fucking sucks. 

[Neonmoon 38,129]

11 minutes ago, G650 said:

That's not what is being reported. The Wagners that didn't participate get brought into MOD as planned. The ones that did get discharged and pardoned.

Lol. You think there’s a Wagnerite that will admit it, even if they didn’t?

If you participated, you get to continue being a Wagnerite in Africa. 

If you didn’t, you have to join the meat grinder shitshow in Ukraine 

Soooo, did you participate?

[Rimbo 25,917]

I feel like Leland Gaunt in Needful Things.

SHOOT THEM ALL! ... OH, YOU WUSSY!

[YGIFS 19,450]

Yeah, I thought that choice flow-chart seemed kinda weird.  Unless they just want more people to admit to it so they can be executed?  But that just enrages Prighazon.  

It reminds me of that Eddie Izzard bit about "cake or death"?  Everybody keeps saying cake.  "Well bloody hell then, we're gonna run out of cake!"  

[Rimbo 25,917]

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I feel like Leland Gaunt in Needful Things.

SHOOT THEM ALL! ... OH, YOU WUSSY!

Me right now. OH, YOU WUSSY!

[South Austin 52,462]

I want a coup, and I WANT IT NOW!!!

[Eastwood 4,394]

[NAVY 6,740]

Prigozhin today, “Who run bartertown?” 
 

 

[YGIFS 19,450]

13 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I want a coup, and I WANT IT NOW!!!

She dances like this moron I know to the Village People.  

[G650 14,248]

20 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Lol. You think there’s a Wagnerite that will admit it, even if they didn’t?

If you participated, you get to continue being a Wagnerite in Africa. 

If you didn’t, you have to join the meat grinder shitshow in Ukraine 

Soooo, did you participate?

Well that wasn't what I was responding too, but ok.

 

Anyhoo, I am not vouching for the veracity of any reporting but what's being said is he lost Wagner. Make of it what you will

[South Austin 52,462]

So Wagner’s in the transfer portal?

[SL Xpress 7,513]

32 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

 

 

We're not going to escape our hardwiring. The remarkable thing is that we're able to overcome it as often as we do, not that we lapse into following it so often. 

Tribes. The competition for hierarchy. People best suited genetically for various roles. The yearning for freedom and independence, which to many means power over the people around them so they can experience relative freedom compared to others. 

Our oldest tales are all about this. Our newest tales are about it. Every religion and lifestyle approach. High school can be such a good petri dish because we're often rawer, but those dynamics never go away. Why should they? It's in our DNA. It's the story of human history and prehistory. 

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

So Wagner’s in the transfer portal?

College Station jumbo shrimp are abuzz

[Celery Man 20,934]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

Some of yall don't know how comedy works. 

immamac is starting to get better at comedy and it’s making surlies nervous

[dcbc 14,470]

26 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I want a coup, and I WANT IT NOW!!!

A bean feast!

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

[MillerEP 30,451]

 

[SL Xpress 7,513]

I want to give a shoutout to @atomheartbevo. One of the things I love about this thread are the people giving their perspectives of what they're seeing, and one of the people whose perspectives I enjoy reading even when (sometimes ESPECIALLY when) I don't agree with him is atomheartbevo.

It's not like he was the only one pointing out the craziness between Prigozhin and the MOD, but he is the one who emphasized it the most. The rest of the news sources I read were like me, "well, Russia." I mean, sure it's fucked, but everything about Russia is fucked. But atomheartbevo kept insisting that yes, it's Russia, and yes, it's fucked, but this is especially fucked even for Russia. I feel like he helped emphasize to me how this wasn't going to end well. I kept figuring Putin would step in one way or another, but he didn't. Even here he turned to Lukashenko to mediate. And I'm convinced there's no way this is over. I don't know where it goes from here, but there's still plenty of drama left in this whole episode. 

Anyway, just a bit of a tip of the cap to atomheartbevo. Thanks for your contributions, and in particular, thank you for emphasizing just how crazy everything always was between Prigozhin and the MOD. Not that you were the only one, but you were the one who emphasized it the most from the very beginning. 

[SL Xpress 7,513]

2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

I don't know how Prigozhin dies, but I would personally like for it to involve a sledgehammer.

[South Austin 52,462]

1 minute ago, SL Xpress said:

I don't know how Prigozhin dies, but I would personally like for it to involve a sledgehammer.

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

[SL Xpress 7,513]

This is really big news if true on the air defense front. Everything feels a little anticlimactic right now after the past 24 hours.

I'm also following reports (already posted here) of Ukraine crossing the Dnipro River at the Antonivka bridge. Don't know how true they are, either. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45,672]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, I thought that choice flow-chart seemed kinda weird.  Unless they just want more people to admit to it so they can be executed?  But that just enrages Prighazon.  

It reminds me of that Eddie Izzard bit about "cake or death"?  Everybody keeps saying cake.  "Well bloody hell then, we're gonna run out of cake!"  

We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush!

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

Poland is pissed that the coup didn't produce any fireworks so they're trying their best to restart it.

Poland/Surly:

[Nicole44 22,059]

 

[The Dog 44,020]

 

[G650 14,248]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

I concur with this take

[Parliament 14,253]

So what am I supposed to do with this erection?

[Gatorubet 30,191]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

Some of yall don't know how comedy works. 

I read that in your Mennonite voice. 

[South Austin 52,462]

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So what am I supposed to do with this erection?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

Think about the implications of that for Putin. His army DID NOTHING while 20K mercenaries marched into and through Russia.

I don’t think anyone has much confidence on how this plays out moving forward.

Super, super volatile situation.

[GabrielsHorn 2,183]

So does the CIA get a refund on their deposit? 

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

There’s a vital piece of information missing from this whole story. I don’t know what, but things do not make sense. 

It was like that with the sub story. We all knew the Navy could keep tabs on anything anywhere in any ocean. And yet this sub disappears? Nope. They just didn’t tell the public. 

There is a vital piece to this story missing. 

2 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Are all of those private jets headed back to Russia, and Lukachenko back to Belarus?  If not, this isn't finished.

2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

They said they were going back to their "military camps" but that doesn't necessarily mean inside Ukraine.

I'm not saying they'll turn around and go right back in, but if they read the tea leaves and question why these mercs were willing to march on Moscow and had police, the population, and military join them, they'll see there really isn't a big appetite on the ground to keep dying in Ukraine.

19 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

But atomheartbevo kept insisting that yes, it's Russia, and yes, it's fucked, but this is especially fucked even for Russia.

Thank you SL Express, but several others pointed it out as well

And yeah, something is missing in a big way.  A few weeks ago, Wagner kidnaps, tortures, and releases a Lt. Colonel in the Russian Army.  Nothing happens to them (I consider Russia bringing Wagner into the fold to be more about Prigozhin's rants about Shoigu/Gerasimov than the Russian Lt. Col. thing).  On this would-be march to Moscow, they shoot down quite a few irreplaceable aircraft (Russia produces around 20-25 tanks a month, but they damn sure aren't producing half-a-dozen aircraft) and they embarrass the hell out of Putin and they show cracks in Russian society (people in Rostov welcoming them).

This morning, Putin says Prigozhin will be brought to justice (the wording was such that it was justice by execution, not a trial by court), and that Wagner would be dismantled. Wagner made it within a few hours of Moscow mostly unopposed outside of some aircraft that Putin probably had direct control over.  Russians were digging up roads and destroying fuel depots to stop them. Then something happens with Lukashenko, and we get opposing stories, but Prigozhin is headed to Belarus and his men are pardoned (the ones following him).

What stands out to me, is during the march,  Wagner had tanks on transporters and were even using random civilian vehicles - they clearly knew they weren't going to be opposed and weren't going to have to fight it out town by town.  That's fucking insane that they got so far down the highway the way they did.  Prigozhin knew somebody had his back. Even when they were deployed in Rostov on Don yesterday, they didn't look like they were truly worried, they looked like they were posing for cameras, like somebody told them "pretend that the Russian MOD is resisting you taking over their HQ". At the very least, Russian air should have turned that column into smoking craters.

Oh, and Prigozhin was walking around Rostov on Don without a helmet, quite relaxed.  He knew there were no Russian soldiers or FSB or police sharpshooters that were going to take a potshot at him.

If I'm Belarus, I'd be ready for The Anschluss II.

[The Dog 44,020]

Another possibility