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5 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

I have been saying that since the git go. No matter how strong the Russian's attack was, this was not going to end quickly. AFU needs to take their time and hammer them when the opportunity presents.

 

 

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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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14 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

What they are doing in the North isn't defensive, they intend on and are in fact attacking.  Time to hammer them.  

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16 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

 

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I have been saying that since the git go. No matter how strong the Russian's attack was, this was not going to end quickly. AFU needs to take their time and hammer them when the opportunity presents.

Yep to both of these.  While we long for a rapid breakthrough and collapse (and it's still in the cards, just not anytime soon), we're firmly in the "let's WALK down there, and fuck ALL of 'em" stage.  Russia's defeat, if it is to come, will look like most defeats: very slowly, and then all at once.  We are still in the "very slowly" phase, and will be for some time, because Russia's military resources are large in number, and as noted repeatedly, "quantity has a quality all its own."  A million men armed with sharpened sticks is still a million men.

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What they are doing in the North isn't defensive, they intend on and are in fact attacking.  Time to hammer them.  

i agree.  it's the overall tone of 'these guys are a joke' that bugs me.  we might have half a million more deaths in front of us.  pickett / battle of the bulge etc analogies that imply a larger context of 'last gasp' are off base.

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1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

I mean, the Ukrainians are correct that we're asking them to fight in ways that we never would. The article saying how we're disappointed that Ukraine isn't thundergunning their way through the Russians while lacking air superiority and artillery ammo kinda shows the disconnect between expectations and the tools we've given them to succeed.

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

I am not an IT guy, but maybe block outgoing emails to certain addresses/countries or rather limit them to only verified ones?

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This isn't the problem. This control is already in place. The issue is all of the inbound emails from non-military email systems.

 

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Neither the Battle of the Bulge nor Pickett's Charge ended their respective wars.  WW II went on for six more months in Europe, and involved hard fighting the whole time.  The Civil War lasted almost two more years after Pickett's Charge/Gettysburg, and involved many more horrific battles.

I don't think that anyone is saying that crushing the Russian offensive in the north will end the war, although things could happen where it could.  It's more likely that it will further deplete Russian resources and give Ukraine a better chance to win the war and end it earlier than they otherwise might.  We'll have to be patient and see.

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The key thing to understand about Russia’s maybe offensive is that it represents a desperation move from a nation that no longer has a clear path to victory as it defined victory for itself. Even if it is “successful” there is no end game here that gives Putin the win he envisioned in February 2022. This desperate scrabbling over square kilometers is deeply stupid from the Russian side, while tragically necessary from the Ukrainian side since it is their land and their people. 

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Well I didn't see SA entering the discussion that way. Good on them.

SA isn't doing a damned thing that isn't good for SA.  I have serious doubt about the intentions and the possibility of results based on who's involved. 

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3 hours ago, F250 said:

This isn't the problem. This control is already in place. The issue is all of the inbound emails from non-military email systems.

 

Is there not a bandpass type filter to weed out everything that doesn't fit certain criteria?

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3 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Neither the Battle of the Bulge nor Pickett's Charge ended their respective wars.  WW II went on for six more months in Europe, and involved hard fighting the whole time.  The Civil War lasted almost two more years after Pickett's Charge/Gettysburg, and involved many more horrific battles.

I don't think that anyone is saying that crushing the Russian offensive in the north will end the war, although things could happen where it could.  It's more likely that it will further deplete Russian resources and give Ukraine a better chance to win the war and end it earlier than they otherwise might.  We'll have to be patient and see.

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The key thing to understand about Russia’s maybe offensive is that it represents a desperation move from a nation that no longer has a clear path to victory as it defined victory for itself. Even if it is “successful” there is no end game here that gives Putin the win he envisioned in February 2022. This desperate scrabbling over square kilometers is deeply stupid from the Russian side, while tragically necessary from the Ukrainian side since it is their land and their people. 

It's complete desperation - probably thinking if they can open up something, they can try and sue for peace and/or freeze the lines.  Russia could gamble on a big counter-counter-offensive in the north, but if the lines through Melitopol are cut off and Crimea is opened up to Ukraine, I think Putin just shoots a bunch of missiles and drones at Ukrainian cities while ordering all of those troops up north to get down to Crimea/Melitopol.

And hell, Russian planners are probably not even thinking about the Kerch Bridge - they are so rooted in the mindset of "this is what we would do, so of course it's what Ukraine would do" that they don't have the creativity of Ukrainians cutting supply lines in the south, forcing the Russians to divide their massed forces.

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57 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^lol, I think that S Africa is making it up looking for a loophole, however If this is true and Russia did tell S Africa that it'll be an act of war if they arrest Putin, then that's hilarious they'll threaten their "ally"

Lest we all forget, it was Russians that joined with the Nazis to invade Poland, and the only Warsaw Pact countries that were invaded (Czechoslovakia and Hungary), were invaded by the Russians, and it was Russians who were killing Latvians when the Soviet Union started breaking up in the early 90s.

If you can count on one thing, it's that the Russians will turn on their allies in a heartbeat.

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14 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Sadly enough, this was actually accurate.  I think the last guy didn't emerge from the jungle in either Indonesia or the Philippines until 1972.  Imagine hiding out for 27 years after the war was over, yikes.  

I totally get it, I'm married too.

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Lest we all forget, it was Russians that joined with the Nazis to invade Poland, and the only Warsaw Pact countries that were invaded (Czechoslovakia and Hungary), were invaded by the Russians, and it was Russians who were killing Latvians when the Soviet Union started breaking up in the early 90s.
If you can count on one thing, it's that the Russians will turn on their allies in a heartbeat.

They don’t have allies. They have subjugated client states. Or if they can’t subjugate, they tolerate as long as necessary. For example, the West during WWII. That good will lasted all of five seconds after Hitler was dead.
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Never forget

Invariably, there are going to be innocent casualties in a war.  However, this is the result of indiscriminate warfare perpetuated by the Russians.  Child deaths are particularly horrid to me because they never got the chance to make choices in life.  I also feel sense of sorrow for any Russian children that might have been killed in this fucking mess, because they too never got a chance to make choices.  In the end, it reinforces my hatred of Putin and his gang that caused this to happen.  We all have choices to make, and leadership of anything that seems to value nothing of innocent lives deserves death.  May he burn in hell.  

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5 hours ago, Nivek said:

Are they really excellent on defense or are they just built to stall the limited warfare capabilities of Ukraine?    

 

4 hours ago, Kdub said:

I'm gonna with the latter on that one.

 

4 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the latter, but since that's the reality we are in, there isn't much difference. 

Y'all should go reread Phillips O'Brien's piece I linked above. He addresses this.

tldr: Your expectations are not in touch with reality; things are going very well right now

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^lol, I think that S Africa is making it up looking for a loophole, however If this is true and Russia did tell S Africa that it'll be an act of war if they arrest Putin, then that's hilarious they'll threaten their "ally"

 

With friends like these...

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5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

 

 

When we visited Armenia, our diplomat friend pointed to all of the high-end cars on the road -- lots of Mercedes SUVs, BMWs, etc.  Which seems unusual for a pretty poor country.  He explained that vehicles are THE status symbol in Armenia, and status symbols are important.  So...all of the totaled Mercedes, Audis, etc. from Europe that are salvage-title POS's after being wrecked?  They get fixed up and sent to Armenia.  Because a half price salvage title BMW is still a BMW to all of your neighbors.  Thus, Armenia already had established an apparatus for getting a shitload of used/wrecked western vehicles there.  Not surprising that they'd be flipping some for profit.

Would be much cooler if they put some 90 day delayed fuse bombs under the hood of them, though.

We should help them do that.

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2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Is there not a bandpass type filter to weed out everything that doesn't fit certain criteria?

It's pretty common for the military to require encryption when dealing with non-military organizations but something like that usually doesn't get put in place unless it's going to be a regular exchange of emails because it's a pain in the ass.

If something as basic as PGP is used those mistyped emails sent to Mali wouldn't be an issue. The challenge is all of this requires work on the other side at every organization and it's damn near impossible to enforce outside of sending a best practice notice. Even then that wouldn't address all of the one-off type emails from civilian organizations.

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50 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

When we visited Armenia, our diplomat friend pointed to all of the high-end cars on the road -- lots of Mercedes SUVs, BMWs, etc.  Which seems unusual for a pretty poor country.  He explained that vehicles are THE status symbol in Armenia, and status symbols are important.  So...all of the totaled Mercedes, Audis, etc. from Europe that are salvage-title POS's after being wrecked?  They get fixed up and sent to Armenia.  Because a half price salvage title BMW is still a BMW to all of your neighbors.  Thus, Armenia already had established an apparatus for getting a shitload of used/wrecked western vehicles there.  Not surprising that they'd be flipping some for profit.

Would be much cooler if they put some 90 day delayed fuse bombs under the hood of them, though.

We should help them do that.

Did he also point out to you the roaring market in paying off local petty bureaucrats at the DMV for desirable license plate prefixes and suffixes? So you pay crazy for 777 A777 and somewhat less but still cash for 543 B215.

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