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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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It's unfortunately worth noting that a number of normally positive accounts aren't too happy today. The fog of war and the difficult realities of an offensive directed into well-prepared defenses are obviously major considerations as well.

 

 

 

While minefields and insufficient supplies from the West undoubtedly contribute to drawbacks, it is essential to recognize that failures in planning and coordination at the commanding stage above the brigade level lead to far more significant drawbacks. In any war or military operation, there are both competent and ineffective commanders. 

 

However, the main question is whether we will draw conclusions based on the performance of certain generals or simply lay blame on the West and minefields. Whether the assault concludes in Crimea or elsewhere in the South, it's vital to acknowledge both victories and failures and hold individuals accountable for seriuos shortcomings.

 

No amount of NATO training for NCOs and privates can compensate for the absence of similar training and the right mindset among certain senior officers. 

 

To conclude, I would like to share a brief radio interception between Russian servicemembers that I heard almost a month ago:

 

- How is it going for you guys? Are you holding?

- Yeah.

- What about Ukrainians? What do you think?

- I have a feeling that their assault was planned by Gerasimov and executed by Muradov. 

 

this is directed at no one... and at the same time all the arm chair generals..
some of the recent attacks by the ukr forces (company sized) have not looked great..
and many have sat back and stated things about the command and judgements...

the simple facts are......
1. this is war and losses will be taken..
2. ukr is on the offensive and the losses will go up now..
3. we are not on the ground, we dont know the intel, we dont know the prep, and we dont know the overall real ground truth.
4. as bad as some assults look we are finding out that most of them do gain ground and ukr is moving forward... 
5. this is a HARD fight without traditional air support, with a peer that MOST people thought would crush them in 3 days. 
6. war is hard, its dirty, it never goes as expected, and there are always losses, even in the best operations.
7. some people are fixating on losses and not looking at the big picture.. few of the forces have been used so far, and more are coming. 
8. im not going to pile on a company commander right now that may have had a bad mission.  many times that commander is the first to die.  constructive feedback is good and needed, and if a higher commander is needed to be replaced it will happen.  have faith in the guys on the ground im confident that in the end ukr will have a breakthrough... till then the fight will be hard, and there will be losses.. but ukr will win the war.

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"...Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said."

 

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Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki says that more than 100 "Wagnerians" has gone towards the Suwałki Gap connecting Poland with the Baltic States.

 

According to him, they will be disguised as Belarusian border guards and will help illegal immigrants to enter the country and destabilize the situation in Poland.

 

Morawiecki called it an "unconditional step" towards a further hybrid attack on Poland.

Thanks, Kim. 

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49 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So what's the idea behind a Wagner incursion? Bait Poland into doing something stupid?  Send Pregozian into another meat grinder?  Aggy stupidity?

Would bet $3.50 that Wagner massing in western Belarus is in preparation to attack Ukraine’s western border, cutting them off from Poland and Romania. 

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2 hours ago, Superhero said:

Would bet $3.50 that Wagner massing in western Belarus is in preparation to attack Ukraine’s western border, cutting them off from Poland and Romania. 

I don’t think they could do much. That border area is heavily mined and fortified, it’s under constant surveillance, and Ukraine has reserve forces in that area. Ukraine has been preparing that region since last year.  They wouldn’t get far even if they did.

But I do see them hanging around in that area just to try and divert some troops from other areas of Ukraine, or to try and tie up NATO forces in some way.

And I still think Anschluss is on the table.

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5 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Song in the second…uh…tweet?…slaps if I’m honest. 

Artillery/Arta.

It's even better with the lyrics translated.

 

A Muscovite was walking near the forest,

Looking for an adventure,

The sun shone in the sky

Wonderful weather! (in Russian)

Suddenly he's fucked

The earth begins to tremble

A shell had hit

A young Muscovite. 

 

Chorus

And the Muscovite is gone,

There's no more Muscovite,

There is nothing fucking left,

There's only earth,

Artillery is working,

The boys are fucking them up

One less katzap left,

And the other shit his himself

 

The Muscovite is hiding in a trench,

And holding a Kalishnikov

His body is full of tattoos,

And weed is in his pocket,

Suddenly it banged

And land was blown into the air

The earth has swallowed up

A young Muscovite.

 

Chorus

 

A column of vehicles is coming,

Paratroopers from Pskov,

And in the bushes,

GRU agents are hiding,

Suddenly it banged,

And the engines halted

Paratroopers got fucked so hard,

Their under  pants were burning.

 

Chorus

 

A katzap mortar unit

Was lined up

The fuckers are happy

Their deployment almost done

Suddenly it banged,

And their lives were cut short,

And with it all their health,

For this combat moskal.

 

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Let's say it's Ukrainian drones.  Does it help Putin?  I am not sure that it does.

  • We're 500+ days into the war that Russian officials had told the Russian public would be over back in March or April of last year.
  • Putin told the Russian people it was about making Russia secure, but here we are in almost August of 2023 and Ukrainian drones and missiles seem to be hitting Moscow, something that wasn't happening in January of 2022.
  • The last major remaining "victory" Russia has had since February of 2022 was Bakhmut, and the Russian people watching state TV saw it take 7-8 months before Russia finally took it, only now it's under heavy Ukrainian pressure.  Not fucking Kyiv, not Odessa.  Fucking Bakhmut, which most Russians would not have heard of, and which is the size of San Marcos as far as Americans are concerned, and around 140 miles to the Russian border.
  • So far, the war really hasn't touched Moscow - most of the mobilized/conscripted have been from rural/outlying areas, as well as the various minority communities.
  • When it was announced last fall that there were going to be increased call-ups/mobilizations, anywhere from 700,000 - 1 million got the fuck out of Dodge. Those weren't poors from the rural areas either - it was mostly those who had decent jobs and had money stashed away, with many being from Moscow/St. Petes/the next 10 or so populated cities/metros.
  • We (and the Russian people) just watched the biggest/main Russian PMC very nearly try and take Moscow, and not a bunch of dudes in pickups, but fucking hauling tanks and artillery on flatbeds down Russian highways and shooting down over half-a-dozen Russian aircraft. They were declared traitors by Putin, but they turned around because a deal was made with their leader, who is still very publicly in Russia and in Moscow and hanging around the Defense Ministry, and the dudes on the highways are now hanging in Belarus.
  • The Russian people know a fuckload of Russian soldiers have died or been wounded because when they announced they are calling up 350,000 people last fall, most people would have been curious about why they needed so many for a war that was supposed to be over 6 months ago, and they've been increasing the ages of conscription which is telling people that A) they need more meat and B) a lot of the normal military-aged crowd is either in another country, or is in uniform or is dead or wounded.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, it was slow (arguably during the arms race with the US, and with Afghanistan bleeding it dry) until it was fast.

The Soviets woke a whole lot of third-world countries up with the invasion of Afghanistan - it was not what countries expected out of the Soviet Union, a nation that claimed it was the friend of third-world countries.  It altered relationships between nations.  We see the same thing here - we see third-world countries (and a few 2nd-world) who are not seeing what Putin's talking heads on TV are saying, but instead seeing what the rest of us are seeing. More importantly, it's fucking with their food supplies or at the very least, their supplies of food and other commodities. Some of them are even calling out Putin, and he's basically telling them "shut the fuck up and don't question me, you'll get what we say you get and you should be happy, it's not your place to judge or decide".  And some of these countries have a lot more people than Russia, or aren't too much smaller population-wise.  And it's not like it's 1993 and these countries are dealing with Ukraine tentatively coming out from under Russia's shadow through a hard-fought rebellion - it's 2023, and they've had Ukrainian embassies, etc. for decades.

And then there's the impact Afghanistan had on the Soviet Union in terms of economics, and bleeding the military and their coffers dry. Ukraine has to be far worse.

If it's Ukrainian drones, I don't see how Putin can use this to rally the Russian population, because it's another sign that the war that Putin claims isn't impacting Russia very much is in fact impacting Russia, literally.  And he can't say he invaded to make Russia safe again, because there were no Ukrainian drones hitting Moscow 18 months ago.

Obviously Gorbachev's moves towards elections was the last straw that sped everything up, meanwhile Putin is trying to keep himself in office for many more years to come and has in fact been using the Duma to enact even stricter controls over the population.  Gorbachev gave the Soviet people a chance to release steam/pressure from the pressure cooker through the elections and eventual dissolution. Putin is ramping up the pressure in the cooker.

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3 hours ago, BamaATL said:

No context of yet, looks like a car bomb, but I could be wrong

 

in a prior time in my life (pre Feb 2022), hearing the fear in the voice of a young girl witnessing an attack on their city would have moved me greatly. 

but having seen 10/15 similar videos in the last 18 months of UKRAINIAN young women crying at the sounds of war attacking their city, not only does this video not move me...  

I'm actually saying, good for her.  good for her, because she and maybe 1k/2k Russians in the immediate vicinity are now feeling the consequences of their actions. 

 

and I know thats fucking cruel and completely against civilized morals.

But civilized morals only apply to a civilzed sociey, so I am drinking a shot of bourbon and now cheering her cries of fear....

and that fucking terrifies me long term about how fucked my conscience has turned in the last 18 months. 

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5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

 

It’s insane that 1) the military has to come up with a solution to work around the possibility that the billionaire man child could just turn off the satellites and 2) that solution involves paying shit loads more money to that same erratic/compromised billionaire 

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Some important points made in this thread, and I imagine the Polish citizens are much more aware of this context than we are. 

 

 

 

 

 The rest of the thread is good too, but these are the significant points. He's right though: stationing nuclear weapons in Belarus prior to giving Wagner a home base gives them the protection of the threat of nuclear Armageddon and allows for the continued escalation of rhetoric that does seem to echo the justifications for the attack on Ukraine

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13 hours ago, Pods said:

Putin's mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash again. 

 

I guess he's having memory issues, because this is the last time the Russians fucked around and found out. 

 

 

That video should be required watching. 

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It’s insane that 1) the military has to come up with a solution to work around the possibility that the billionaire man child could just turn off the satellites and 2) that solution involves paying shit loads more money to that same erratic/compromised billionaire 

Explain this line of reasoning to me. No one expects any other military contractor or private company to donate equipment or services for the war. The Pentagon pays for it. Why should StarLink be different? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the point you're making.

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