Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[BamaATL 16593]

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17682]

38 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

 

 

Those Ruskies sured reaped the Whirlwind there.  

[NorthLoop 14205]

Michael Bay was proud of that display

[InkaUtexas 25942]

Classic move. Hope he wears it! 

 

[HOOKEM4 5037]

I know I said it before but it is amazing to watch the minting of a future national hero that a country will reference for hundreds if not thousands of years as a mountain of a man and hero. Ala what were were taught in grade school about George Washington. 

It is fascinating.

[HOOKEM4 5037]

I should have said national hero. He already jumped that hurdle. There is nothing future about it. That dude is a badass.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I should have said national hero. He already jumped that hurdle. There is nothing future about it. That dude is a badass.

also, 'international'.

 

[Schulz2.0 28951]

 

 

[Bevo 13577]

53 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I know I said it before but it is amazing to watch the minting of a future national hero that a country will reference for hundreds if not thousands of years as a mountain of a man and hero. Ala what were were taught in grade school about George Washington. 

It is fascinating.

Only if he leaves office immediately after the war. Politics will sink his reputation.

[Brisketexan 105142]

Just now, Bevo said:

Only if he leaves office immediately after the war. Politics will sink his reputation.

The Churchill lesson.

[Parliament 14260]

Agreed.  Signed,

Abraham Lincoln

[statsman 5470]

This war will end, and there is an 80% chance the FSB will have a lifetime hit out on Zelensky. I bet he knows it, too. 

[MissingInAction 25077]

No matter the outcome I expect a never-ending detente between Russia and Ukraine if Ukraine doesnt become a NATO member. Not much unlike India and Pakistan.

Edited September 6, 2023 by MissingInAction

[Bevo 13577]

13 minutes ago, statsman said:

This war will end, and there is an 80% chance the FSB will have a lifetime hit out on Zelensky. I bet he knows it, too. 

I don’t know if that is true. Russia may not be Russia and Ukraine will be in NATO. So a hit on Zelenskyy would be an act of war and that would mean war with NATO unless NATO becomes too tied to Russian oil to act responsibly.

[ABSR 5312]

44 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Agreed.  Signed,

Abraham Lincoln

That’s just a shot in the dark.  He should come out ahead. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

I don’t think a perfect meme exis…

[BamaATL 16593]

Can't get it to embed, but apparently explosions in Rostov on Don at or near military headquarters are being reported. 

 

WHAT GERASIMOV DOING?

[PTINS 3468]

7 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Can someone who knows mines better than me explain why/how the mine is rigged this way?

 

I'll try; Perhaps it is a "pressure switch" of sorts.

Drone flies at ~ 2,000 ft?, atmospheric pressure is ~ 1 PSI less than at ground level.

Water jug is ~ 12" diameter, 113 square inches.

Jug nozzle is restricted down to ~ 1 square inch, pressure exceeds 100 PSI at ground level.

Drone flies from ground to 2,000 ft, higher pressure "heavy" air in jug is displaced w/ lower pressure "light" air,

As mine is dropped from 2000 ft,  the pressure in the jug increases at it gets closer to the ground, activating the pressure switch > 100 PSI, boom. 

[KYHorn 17060]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Can't get it to embed, but apparently explosions in Rostov on Don at or near military headquarters are being reported. 

 

WHAT GERASIMOV DOING?

 

Edited September 7, 2023 by KYHorn

[KYHorn 17060]

A bit more firm than I expected.

Edited September 7, 2023 by KYHorn

[BamaATL 16593]

23 minutes ago, PTINS said:

I'll try; Perhaps it is a "pressure switch" of sorts.

Drone flies at ~ 2,000 ft?, atmospheric pressure is ~ 1 PSI less than at ground level.

Water jug is ~ 12" diameter, 113 square inches.

Jug nozzle is restricted down to ~ 1 square inch, pressure exceeds 100 PSI at ground level.

Drone flies from ground to 2,000 ft, higher pressure "heavy" air in jug is displaced w/ lower pressure "light" air,

As mine is dropped from 2000 ft,  the pressure in the jug increases at it gets closer to the ground, activating the pressure switch > 100 PSI, boom. 

I like the science of this, but I think it's much more simple than that.  The water is just a counter-balance, a la a drogue shoot for stable flight/falling.  That's my guess anyway.  Obviously these mines were never intended to be used as an aerial bomb, so a bit of field innovation is at work.  Can't say it isn't ingenuitive.  

[atomheartbevo 89670]

5 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

A bit more firm than I expected.

Hopefully they are helping Moldova to reach a point where they can deal with Transnistria.

And they might be doing a missile defense system out a little ways into the Black Sea and along the river area. That would be relatively easy to do and a warning to Russia.

[atomheartbevo 89670]

1 minute ago, BamaATL said:

so a bit of field innovation is at work.  Can't say it isn't ingenuitive. 

Go back to 2021 and tell us that Russia would stage a 3-day full-on invasion of Ukraine that has lasted for 550+ days, and that Ukraine is using off-the-shelf drones to drop hand grenades and *checks notes* landmines onto Russian soldiers and vehicles, and filming it for all the world to see.  And that Ukrainian farmers would have stolen dozens of Russian armored vehicles.

We'd all think you were crazy.

[SKJ 1311]

30 minutes ago, PTINS said:

I'll try; Perhaps it is a "pressure switch" of sorts.

Drone flies at ~ 2,000 ft?, atmospheric pressure is ~ 1 PSI less than at ground level.

Water jug is ~ 12" diameter, 113 square inches.

Jug nozzle is restricted down to ~ 1 square inch, pressure exceeds 100 PSI at ground level.

Drone flies from ground to 2,000 ft, higher pressure "heavy" air in jug is displaced w/ lower pressure "light" air,

As mine is dropped from 2000 ft,  the pressure in the jug increases at it gets closer to the ground, activating the pressure switch > 100 PSI, boom. 

So how sy they set it on the ground at the atmospheric pressure it will be dropped at?

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Go back to 2021 and tell us that Russia would stage a 3-day full-on invasion of Ukraine that has lasted for 550+ days, and that Ukraine is using off-the-shelf drones to drop hand grenades and *checks notes* landmines onto Russian soldiers and vehicles, and filming it for all the world to see.  And that Ukrainian farmers would have stolen dozens of Russian armored vehicles.

We'd all think you were crazy.

Yeah, but I know most of you assholes do a good bit of drugs, so maybe you'd buy it.  

[KYHorn 17060]

 

"Two grenades at the window, two grenades at the door, and then you go in and finish off" - ex-mercenaries of Wagner PMC about Prigozhin’s criminal orders.

Maksim Zelenov and Aleksey Chernyavsky are former prisoners who were recruited into the Wagner PMC last November.  Together with other mercenaries, they were sent to clean up a village near Soledar in Donetsk region.

Their command and Prigozhin himself gave criminal orders to the "Wagnerites" - to throw grenades at residential buildings and kill civilian women and children.  After that, Maksim and Aleksey fled the PMC camp and hid for more than 8 months.

Only after the death of Prigozhin they dared to tell the founder of  Gulagu net resource,  @Vlad_Osechkin, about these war crimes.

 

UN 🇺🇳 IS NOT SURE IF THERE IS GENOCIDE IN 🇺🇦 

Translation from Ukrainian:

“IRPIN 🇺🇦: A Family: a man, a woman, three daughters 5, 8, 17 years old. 

🇷🇺 settled in their house.

The man was shot dead on the same day.

They raped the woman, & then raped the children in front of her.

Girls aged 5 and 8 died of rape & injuries.

The woman and her daughter, 17 years old, survived, but are in serious condition in the hospital. 
—-
GOSTOMEL 🇺🇦: A Family: a woman and a son of 16 years old.

The son was shot dead.

The woman was raped & beaten for more than three weeks.

She died from her injuries.

There is no family.”

The list goes on & on…

The UN 🇺🇳 is useless.

[Stilicho 1397]

21 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Yeah, but I know most of you assholes do a good bit of drugs, so maybe you'd buy it.  

I feel targeted. 

[atomheartbevo 89670]

1 hour ago, SKJ said:

So how sy they set it on the ground at the atmospheric pressure it will be dropped at?

Very carefully.

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

I like the science of this, but I think it's much more simple than that.  The water is just a counter-balance, a la a drogue shoot for stable flight/falling.  That's my guess anyway.  Obviously these mines were never intended to be used as an aerial bomb, so a bit of field innovation is at work.  Can't say it isn't ingenuitive.  

I’m a page behind so this may have been answered but yeah it looks like a guidance and position stabilizer. 
 

a dropped mine will want to either flip to edge down, or start tumbling. Either situation could lead to the mine being destroyed by the ground without detonating. 
 

the bottle is in the position to draft in the slip stream of the mine, is light enough not to flip it upside down, and is wide enough that as the air tries to turn the mine, the bottle will stick out into the airflow and get pushed back to the center. 
 

the bottle being roughy the size of the mine means it won’t tip far before a counter force acts upon it, which also means it will fall straight down and not drift.  Allowing for more accurate aim. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[Gatorubet 30239]

Drone-mine-water jug talk not going away….

[Schulz2.0 28951]

 

 

 

[Schulz2.0 28951]

 

[statsman 5470]

Russian occupation authorities in Crimea regularly parade “traitors” on camera, aiming to cow pro-Kyiv residents into submission. But many Crimeans still openly yearn for a return to Ukrainian rule
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/in-crimea-pro-ukraine-feelings-prompt-a-russian-crackdown-123494b0?st=hxrtkx3zocdssvm&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

About the UN- the UN is a democracy, but an illiberal democracy (liberal democracy has protections for minority groups and positions). It serves as a good example of why illiberal democracy can be bad. 
 
 

[956 Worldwide 34715]

X-posting from the Elon thread. Musk intervened personally to ensure the failure of an AFU naval drone attack.

Quote

CNN — 

Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacson’s new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled “Elon Musk.” 

As Ukrainian submarine drones strapped with explosives approached the Russian fleet, they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly,” Isaacson writes.

I’m not gonna feel bad if Vlad goes out and takes Elon with him via Novichok in the boxers.  Preferably on a visit to Saudi or some shit. 
 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

[956 Worldwide 34715]

9 minutes ago, statsman said:

Russian occupation authorities in Crimea regularly parade “traitors” on camera, aiming to cow pro-Kyiv residents into submission. But many Crimeans still openly yearn for a return to Ukrainian rule
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/in-crimea-pro-ukraine-feelings-prompt-a-russian-crackdown-123494b0?st=hxrtkx3zocdssvm&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

About the UN- the UN is a democracy, but an illiberal democracy (liberal democracy has protections for minority groups and positions). It serves as a good example of why illiberal democracy can be bad. 
 
 

I don’t think you can draw parallels between multilateral international organization rules and constitutional systems for individual states. In any case, UN measure with teeth require UNSC consensus which basically means that those permanent members have a Polish-Lithuanian style liberum veto and the attendant dysfunction. 

[troph 24798]

21 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Polish-Lithuanian style liberum veto and the attendant dysfunction

[Johnny Chimpo 478]

34 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

X-posting from the Elon thread. Musk intervened personally to ensure the failure of an AFU naval drone attack.

I’m not gonna feel bad if Vlad goes out and takes Elon with him via Novichok in the boxers.  Preferably on a visit to Saudi or some shit. 
 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

Holy shit, that’s nuts. He needs to be wrangled in. 

[Nivek 16930]

I’m a page behind so this may have been answered but yeah it looks like a guidance and position stabilizer. 
 
a dropped mine will want to either flip to edge down, or start tumbling. Either situation could lead to the mine being destroyed by the ground without detonating. 
 
the bottle is in the position to draft in the slip stream of the mine, is light enough not to flip it upside down, and is wide enough that as the air tries to turn the mine, the bottle will stick out into the airflow and get pushed back to the center. 
 
the bottle being roughy the size of the mine means it won’t tip far before a counter force acts upon it, which also means it will fall straight down and not drift.  Allowing for more accurate aim. 

So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?

I’m a page behind so this may have been answered but yeah it looks like a guidance and position stabilizer. 
 
a dropped mine will want to either flip to edge down, or start tumbling. Either situation could lead to the mine being destroyed by the ground without detonating. 
 
the bottle is in the position to draft in the slip stream of the mine, is light enough not to flip it upside down, and is wide enough that as the air tries to turn the mine, the bottle will stick out into the airflow and get pushed back to the center. 
 
the bottle being roughy the size of the mine means it won’t tip far before a counter force acts upon it, which also means it will fall straight down and not drift.  Allowing for more accurate aim. 

So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?

[BamaATL 16593]

3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?
So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?

Worth saying twice, but I think Smirnoff Ice would be more effective.  

[Nivek 16930]

37 minutes ago, Nivek said:

So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?
So what you are saying is that we should drop Schlitz beer bottles into the minefields and let the Russians detonate the mines trying to get them?

Tapa shit is borked.

[Trey3216 15346]

11 hours ago, KYHorn said:

 

Carrie Mathison approves

[Trey3216 15346]

11 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I like the science of this, but I think it's much more simple than that.  The water is just a counter-balance, a la a drogue shoot for stable flight/falling.  That's my guess anyway.  Obviously these mines were never intended to be used as an aerial bomb, so a bit of field innovation is at work.  Can't say it isn't ingenuitive.  

Yep.  The water likely counterbalances the weight of the mine and keeps it from flipping over on the drop. 

[Chad Fuck 17682]

8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Drone-mine-water jug talk not going away….

I gotta say, I'm just fascinated by the ingenuity of the Ukrainians on all levels.  It reminds me of all my farmer relatives who are the living example of "improvise, adapt, overcome," but this is on a life or death level.

Plus, I just think that shit is cool and I want to know how it works.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Chad Fuck

[MissingInAction 25077]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Worth saying twice, but I think Smirnoff Ice would be more effective.  

[KYHorn 17060]

 

 Another general has been jailed in #Russia Major General Konstantin Ogienko has been sent to a pre-trial detention center on corruption charges. Until recently, he commanded the air defense army defending #Moscow. The general was jailed for a bribe of 30 million rubles and land fraud. According to the investigation, Ogienko could sell land plots belonging to the air defense army for development. 

 

 Glad this guy was reappointed.

 "The Russian army was the second strongest in the world. Now the Russian army is the second strongest in Ukraine," NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg said. He also harshly responded to the 'experts' that are criticizing the speed of the counter-offensive. "You can't sit in Brussels and tell the Ukrainians how to fight. They risk their lives, and we only support and praise them for their bravery."

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

If the Russian elites are going to start getting prison sentences for stealing from the state, that pretty much destroys the social contract Putin has established amongst his cadre of thieves.

[27-25 2047]

You'll need the sound on for full effect.

 

[Brisketexan 105142]

6 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

If the Russian elites are going to start getting prison sentences for stealing from the state, that pretty much destroys the social contract Putin has established amongst his cadre of thieves.

The rules are the same when dealing with tyrannical narcissists: the only question is WHEN he will turn on you and betray you, not IF. 

This rule is immutable, and has never been violated.  It applies in Russia.  It applies here (as we've seen plenty of times in recent years, no CR).  It applies to all of humanity.  Bow at the altar of a narcissist, and you may prosper for some time...but eventually, the dagger ends up in your back as well.  Always.

[KYHorn 17060]

 

 A bit of a shift in tone...

US intelligence believes that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will break through Russia's defenses by the end of the year.

 

Trent Mol, director of analysis at the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, said that the AFU will be able to break through all Russian defense lines in southern Ukraine by the end of the year.

 

"If we were talking about this two weeks ago, I would have been a little more pessimistic. Their breakthrough through the second defense belt is actually quite significant," a U.S. intelligence officer told The Economist. According to Mol, two factors are critical to the success of the Defense Force:

- The supply of ammunition needed for the artillery, which powers the advance;

- the weather in the fall.

Edited September 7, 2023 by KYHorn

[Viper 12109]

thoughts and prayers