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Edited October 19, 2023 by Zonahorn

[Zonahorn 8079]

6 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I do makes posts questioning things. Each time, I'm shouted down as a chicken little pussy.

It's ok, I'm a big boy and can handle it.

Russia is a much larger nation than Ukraine and is counting on the West to give up on supporting Ukraine. The end result is the complete genocide of Ukraine

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4 hours ago, Orange&White said:

In my mind, the US Navy Subs have already started sinking any russian sub/ship that even looks like it might lay mines, but it is so secret that we don't hear about.

Don't try to use logic or facts to change my mind. It's my dream so it is as big as I want it to be.

I'm with you,  homie. The planes and misses and artillery are awesome. But I think underwater is where we really shine. And we never hear a word. Silent fucking assassins. 

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3 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

hey Putin: 

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Today in Pyongyang Lavrov recommended North Korea as a tourist destination for Russians. For once, I agree.

https://tass.com/politics/1693373

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What ATACMS looks like coming out of the launcher

We sent the Block I's for now.

https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/atacms/

950 bomblets.  Perfect for a rotary wing airfield.  I don't know if we'll send the longer range ones (190 miles) but those are GPS-guided.

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[KYHorn 16808]

When you push your friend into the pool but they pull you in with them. 

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by KYHorn

[BamaATL 16592]

1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

When you push your friend into the pool but they pull you in with them. 

 

The second one looks worse than Pickett's Charge.  Just miles of open field with no cover at all, pure target practice, all while being shot at with highly lethal weaponry that requires almost no skill to aim.  It's a bold move.  

[B00M 6278]

Avdiivka has been a blood bath. The aerial footage is insane. 
 

ukraine has established a bridge head across the dnieper river. They must have local air superiority to do that? I assume that drones and artillery would make quick work of temporary bridges if Russia had them in the area … I guess the alternative is Ukraine is constantly deploying and retrieving armored vehicle launched bridges? Either way this is an impressive operation. 

[BamaATL 16592]

2 minutes ago, B00M said:

Avdiivka has been a blood bath. The aerial footage is insane. 
 

ukraine has established a bridge head across the dnieper river. They must have local air superiority to do that? I assume that drones and artillery would make quick work of temporary bridges if Russia had them in the area … I guess the alternative is Ukraine is constantly deploying and retrieving armored vehicle launched bridges? Either way this is an impressive operation. 

What I've read on the bridgehead is that these are marines that were trained in the UK, and that they used hundreds of civilian boats to make the crossing.  There isn't much concrete out there on this operation, but I don't get the sense that they have any viable means at current to move heavy equipment across the river, at least not yet.  I do wonder if they feel the Russian's have had to move their reserves to the east and there is real opportunity here.  Perhaps because of the geographic barrier, the Russians didn't heavily mine the area.  There is also a big natural sand pit area not far behind the Russians, which to me means the Russians may only be able to squeeze so many people in the area.  If the Ukrainians can defeat the personnel there, perhaps a real bridgehead with the ability to move heavy stuff in behind them is real.  We haven't seen the Abrams in play yet anywhere, and I've gotten the sense the Ukrainians were going to deploy them on almost a surprise level.  This would obviously be very risky, but the reward of being behind the Russian defensive lines with that kind of fire power would be huge.   Fingers crossed.  

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8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Good Lord.  55+ tanks in a fucking day?  That's beyond absurd.  

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27 minutes ago, B00M said:

Avdiivka has been a blood bath. The aerial footage is insane. 

2 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Good Lord.  55+ tanks in a fucking day?  That's beyond absurd.  

The Russians fascination with taking something at such a great cost is weird as fuck.

""Judging by the enemy’s video recordings, we have ALREADY lost no less equipment than they did during the entire summer campaign near Rabotino. And if they initially did not intend to hit with all their might, but only imposed local activity all summer, then the plan is quite workable."

 

[Laxtonto 11926]

1 minute ago, Trey3216 said:

Good Lord.  55+ tanks in a fucking day?  That's beyond absurd.  

That is the issue with the Zerg rush concept in todays battlefield. If you don’t have air superiority then you are going to be going headlong into the teeth of a established defensive position.

 

Drones make achieving the element of surprise incredibly difficult and much importantly allow of for a vastly quicker response time to advances under the fog of war that is generated whenever some form of surprise is achieved. 
 

Say you do surprise a position by being able to cloak a buildup of troops/armor and then attack in mass. Prior to drone recon you are relying on eyes on capabilities and reports from units to show contact points and potential enemy unit strength. So as the attacking force you have the element of surprise to target a weak point and still feint to confuse on the ground reports. This puts the early momentum on the side of the attacking force and you hope to ride that momentum to a breakthrough.

The US approach is to own the air plus real time satellite imagery plus on the ground reports. If you don’t have the air or satellite capabilities then you had to rely on what is being reported from the front, which tends to be much less reliable. Now the UKA  can still get real-time intelligence via drones.  So they can pivot fire support into the advancing troops faster (before they are engaged at their positions) and isolate the point of contact much faster and therefore reinforce that much quicker.

[B00M 6278]

It’s wild how effective expendable drones are. It doesn’t appear either side has much jamming equipment? The best I’ve seen in videos are extremely short range, sitting on top of armored vehicles, really only good for defense against kamikazi drones. I assume they’re just blasting a shit load of RF into the air all around them. Does either side have more directed/focused/higher-gain jammers?

UT demonstrated jamming+GPS spoofing in 2012:
https://radionavlab.ae.utexas.edu/images/stories/files/papers/drone_hack_shepard.pdf

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by B00M

[Chad Fuck 17503]

50 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Russians fascination with taking something at such a great cost is weird as fuck.

""Judging by the enemy’s video recordings, we have ALREADY lost no less equipment than they did during the entire summer campaign near Rabotino. And if they initially did not intend to hit with all their might, but only imposed local activity all summer, then the plan is quite workable."

 

This kind of thinking may be the greatest asset for Ukraine.  

[The Dog 43771]

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[Chad Fuck 17503]

12 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

I wasn't expecting China to be doing Russia's dirty work here.  It's a clear escalation.  

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21 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I wasn't expecting China to be doing Russia's dirty work here.  It's a clear escalation.  

Time to start talking very publicly about selling Taiwan F35s

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We already haven't?

[BamaATL 16592]

6 minutes ago, Parliament said:

We already haven't?

Not publicly yet.  I'd also like to see us announcing that we have sold them the Hammerhead mining system and are providing technical assistance with its installation.  

Edited October 20, 2023 by BamaATL

[BamaATL 16592]

Print text from intercepted Russian soldier, presumably in the east.  Highlights include them having no food or water, 100s being killed, wounded left to die, and him making the point that wearing protective gear was pointless.  

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/22970

 

Link to Russian Equipment loss database

 

[Schulz2.0 28752]

^In regards to Russia losing so many BTRs:

 

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[Chopper 17126]

A helluva photo from the Kyiv Post

 

Spoiler

The worst single day for the Russian Air Force, not just for last week but for the entire war so far, took place last Tuesday, on Oct. 17, following the (for the Kremlin) surprise Ukrainian deployment of US-made ATACMS ballistic missiles tipped with warheads specifically designed to saturate an airfield with cluster munitions.

ATACMS missiles struck an airfield near the Russia-occupied city of Berdyansk destroying at least nine attack and transport helicopters. Another ATACMS salvo hit an airbase near the Russia-occupied city of Luhansk ruining another five helicopters. Ukrainian military bloggers and open-source satellite imagery widely confirmed the Russian losses.

Russian military bloggers have called the ATACMS strikes “a black day for the Russian Air Force” and “the worst aircraft losses of the war.”

According to some Ukrainian estimates, the actual Russian losses might be as much as double the independently confirmed losses because the cluster munitions carried by the American ATACMS are so numerous, that any aircraft parked on an airfield under an ATACMS strike would almost certainly be hit by multiple bomblets and put out of action.

The authoritative Defence Express analytical platform reported, most likely, in that day of Ukrainian missile strikes, at least 20 military helicopters, or about six percent of the rotary wing aircraft in the entire Russian Air Force, were rendered long-term unflyable or damaged too badly to be worth trying to repair.

 

[MillerEP 30339]

^Hyperbole to say it'll be taught in war colleges, but it's an alright breakdown of the slaughter

[Chopper 17126]

The Kremlin "Do Something!" cheerleaders not getting the results they want from vulnerable, low flying aircraft. Oops.

 

[Schulz2.0 28752]

11 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^Hyperbole to say it'll be taught in war colleges, but it's an alright breakdown of the slaughter

I appreciate the song choice.

[locodos 5329]

if the internet can be believed...

KA-52 after ATACMS

[Chad Fuck 17503]

Just now, locodos said:

if the internet can be believed...

KA-52 after ATACMS

Swiss cheese that mother fucker.

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[MillerEP 30339]

^2 of the odder videos to come out of Avdiivka

[BamaATL 16592]

5 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^2 of the odder videos to come out of Avdiivka

So I guess in the second video the plan was to look so stupid and appalling inept the enemy would just take pity on them?  

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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

The Kremlin "Do Something!" cheerleaders not getting the results they want from vulnerable, low flying aircraft. Oops.

that dude shot a fucking stinger missle in an enclosed fucking space??   holy fuck his ears must still be ringing.

 

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2 hours ago, locodos said:

if the internet can be believed...

KA-52 after ATACMS

Do the ATACMS bomblets have the same tungsten BBs as the M30A1 HIMARS rounds? 
 

Because Jesus fucking Christ if so. 

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24 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

that dude shot a fucking stinger missle in an enclosed fucking space??   holy fuck his ears must still be ringing.

I'm guessing he didn't call out "back blast area clear?"

[B00M 6278]

3 hours ago, locodos said:

if the internet can be believed...

KA-52 after ATACMS

Obligatory: that’ll buff out

 

great week for Ukraine 

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3 hours ago, locodos said:

if the internet can be believed...

KA-52 after ATACMS

It's now either a hangar queen in Ukraine, or will have to be shipped back to Russia somehow, because there's no way the mechanics in the field can check everything (wiring, etc.) on the other side of the holes.

[Chad Fuck 17503]

That thing is done for.

[InkaUtexas 25423]

in on 1500. Great thread! Fuck Russia. 

[BamaATL 16592]

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Do the ATACMS bomblets have the same tungsten BBs as the M30A1 HIMARS rounds? 
 

Because Jesus fucking Christ if so. 

They are M74 bomblets, which are the size of baseballs, and they each have fragmentation and incendiary materials in them.  What the frag is I don't know.  

Here's a fun clip, unless you are Russian, in which case its shit your pants nightmare sort of stuff.  You can see the baseballs, or bomblets release.  

 

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[MissingInAction 24765]

It takes me 2 months to get a Dr appointment, ATACMS in 12 isn't so bad.

[BamaATL 16592]

7 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

It takes me 2 months to get a Dr appointment, ATACMS in 12 isn't so bad.

Found out this week the VA is restructuring their mental health program (the wife is in the program, mental health is important, but no worries for us), but apparently they now don't want to do regular stuff for folks, but would rather people call in as needed.