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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

I've refrained over the past week or so from posting a lot of stuff, because it seems like the amount of gruesome stuff/kills has really gone up - they are putting the meat in  meat grinder into it, and the Russian officers killed in Ukraine account is ticking right along.

Quite a few lieutenant colonels going down in a short time.

 

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5 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

it is entirely possible that this information is true, but equally as possible that Russia lies about the number it has in service or the number it has in storage. Or, more likely, that the number it has in storage is correct - but very few of them work because parts have been stolen and sold, while the vehicles engines and tires have not been kept up and so they can’t get the damn thing to the front.  
Still, this slightly modern version of Katuska is pretty damn deadly when all 40 missiles filled with cluster warheads land in a defined area. 

If they were in working condition they's already be at the front.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit, @Schulz2.0 those three aircraft in the open were biplanes.  Wonder what was in the hangar though.  Whatever it was, it’s gone.

Those are AN-2 Colts.  They are very versatile, fuel efficient, maneuverable at low speed, and easy to fly.  They are used for liaison flights, light transport, and flying officers around.  The type has been in service since the late '40s.

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Holy shit, [mention=273]Schulz2.0[/mention] those three aircraft in the open were biplanes.  Wonder what was in the hangar though.  Whatever it was, it’s gone.

An-2. They made many thousands of them and they are a very capable aircraft. Almost like the DC-3 of the Soviets as far as a simple, rugged, long lived design. Every airfield from Dresden to Saigon probably has one sitting around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2?wprov=sfti1
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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit, @Schulz2.0 those three aircraft in the open were biplanes.  Wonder what was in the hangar though.  Whatever it was, it’s gone.

Those are Antonov An-2s. They remained in production for a long, long time.  Pretty robust aircraft and the Russians use them for paratrooper training and in early 2022 there was speculation that some had been converted to drones and might be used as decoys. 

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44532/russia-appears-to-be-preparing-its-ancient-an-2-biplanes-for-war-in-ukraine

 

 

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11 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


An-2. They made many thousands of them and they are a very capable aircraft. Almost like the DC-3 of the Soviets as far as a simple, rugged, long lived design. Every airfield from Dresden to Saigon probably has one sitting around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2?wprov=sfti1

Of course you and @Scheiss Meister got this identified first! 

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11 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


An-2. They made many thousands of them and they are a very capable aircraft. Almost like the DC-3 of the Soviets as far as a simple, rugged, long lived design. Every airfield from Dresden to Saigon probably has one sitting around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2?wprov=sfti1

Are you talking about the Douglas Aircraft, DC3?

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18 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Are you talking about the Douglas Aircraft, DC3?

Yes, but only abstractly in the idea of a good design that does what it does well for a long time.

If you really want to talk literally about a Soviet DC-3, well then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisunov_Li-2

Or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-14

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On 11/14/2023 at 7:44 PM, YGIFS said:

I would strongly encourage all of you to download the current talk of Sec Gates here at UT later tonight.  The Russia-China-Iran connectivity is far deeper than I feared.  And this is just what he’s allowed to say.  

I've been trying to find a video of this and have no luck.  Does anyone know if a link exists?

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A story with a happy ending that just warms the heart
Latvia, 1992. After half a century of brutal occupation, Latvia annulled the nazi-soviet pact and ordered its occupiers out. Yet these were russia’s “elite” occupier units still prowling Latvia’s streets. They were drunk and aggressive, abusing ordinary people, and expecting them to pick up their trash. Instead, Latvians called upon their newly established National Guard to teach them that Latvia is an independent nation. In this video, Latvians are speaking in blue and the russian occupiers are speaking in red. At first, the National Guard is polite and reasonable, but the occupiers continue to act with impunity when they think there are no consequences. That suddenly changes. This is just one of many incidents around the time, but fortunately it happened to be filmed - providing us with a snapshot of history …and a lesson for us all now. Russian aggressors always become more aggressive when they feel the absence of consequences. But they are just ordinary humans, not “mysterious souls”. And they are scared of other ordinary people standing up to them and bringing them to justice. The same is true for russian occupiers today. We can support Ukraine and bring them to justice.
 

In other words, they’re just bullies who need their nose bloodied.
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19 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


An-2. They made many thousands of them and they are a very capable aircraft. Almost like the DC-3 of the Soviets as far as a simple, rugged, long lived design. Every airfield from Dresden to Saigon probably has one sitting around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2?wprov=sfti1

Probably more like Lake Geneva to the Finland Station.

In that conscript photo, can the little guy levitate through walls like Radical Larry?

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Crossing the Dnipro

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/ukraine-crossing-dnipro-russia-attack-situation-perilous-war/103125374?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Crossing the Dnipro has been a huge success for Ukraine. But the situation remains perilous — and Russia knows it

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In October, the Ukrainians executed river crossings at three different locations in Kherson.(AP: Mstyslav Chernov)
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Military river crossing operations are notoriously difficult to plan and execute. They are one of the most difficult forms of combined arms manoeuvre because of the challenges posed by river currents, the availability of bridging, and enemy action designed to interfere with crossing activities.

Since their liberation of western Kherson in November 2022, Ukrainian forces have conducted periodic crossings of the Dnipro River to conduct raids, harass Russian forces and capture prisoners for intelligence. In the past month, however, the nature of these raids has evolved.

In October, the Ukrainians executed river crossings at three different locations in Kherson. They were able to gain a small foothold at each location. Since then, Ukrainian forces have been working towards linking up these three bridgeheads in Russian-occupied Kherson, while also advancing east to clear Russian artillery so that it cannot fire on the Ukrainian river crossing sites.

A view from over of the long bridge, with a section completely destroyed and falling into the water.
 
The Antonivsky Bridge, the main crossing point over the Dnipro river in Kherson, was destroyed by Russian troops in November 2022.(AP Photo: Bernat Armangue)

This week, the Ukrainian government provided the first official confirmation that Ukraine has successfully conducted a cross-Dnipro operation. The aim of this operation remains unclear.

It might be designed to draw Russian units away from further east and provide an opportunity for Ukraine to continue chewing their way through the Surovikin Line. On the other hand, this could be a significant new operation designed to exploit the weakest section of the Russian front line.

What does this mean for the Ukrainian war effort, and the overall trajectory of the war? There are political, strategic and tactical implications.

'We are coming for you, Crimea'

Politically, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has not had a good second half of 2023. The Ukrainian southern offensive has not achieved its objectives to advance south to places such as Melitopol.

While Ukraine has made progress in advancing around Bakhmut, in pushing the Russians out of large parts of the Black Sea and conducting strategic strikes in Russia, many are focused only in the south. The antics of the US Congress, which is yet to approve a new funding deal for Ukraine, will also have caused Zelenskyy some sleepless nights.

This operation shows that Zelenskyy's government and military are still trying to find ways to hit the Russians and push them back in the south.

The timing is right. Having had a major offensive in the south achieve only minimal territorial gains over the last four months, the Ukrainians want to finish 2023 with a significant operational success — to bolster domestic political support and the morale of Ukrainian citizens going into a winter where a Russian air and missile offensive against power stations is expected. The Ukrainian president will also have one eye on waning foreign support.

The Ukrainian attack across the Dnipro may also generate important strategic opportunities. Every gain made on the eastern bank of the Dnipro will compromise Russian narratives that project a lack of progress for Ukraine in 2024.

Success in this Kherson operation would also result in significant Ukrainian territory being liberated. This, in turn, may allow the Ukrainians to place more of Crimea at risk and would force a drastic realignment of the Russian scheme of defence. Part of the message of this Ukrainian cross-Dnipro offensive is: "We are coming for you, Crimea."

A man in army fatigues stands in front of the Ukrainian flag
 
Politically, Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has not had a good second half of 2023.(Reuters: Ukrainian Presidential Press Service)

The final throw of the dice for the year?

There are also tactical opportunities for the Ukrainians. They have landed away from the main Surovikin Lines defences in southern Ukraine — this location on the Dnipro may offer the best chances of tactical success before the end of the year.

It should be borne in mind that river crossings are only undertaken if absolutely necessary. The resources needed — engineers, bridges, artillery — are extensive. Such operations normally only occur on a military axis of advance that is a main effort (or about to become the main effort).

There remain many challenges for the Ukrainians in this operation. First, Ukrainian forces on the eastern bank, even with the developments this week, still have only limited artillery and protected mobility. This will limit their rate of advance.

A second challenge is that all logistic support must be transported on boats and rafts across the river. While a floating bridge may eventually be built, until then the Ukrainians have limited ammunition and other supplies that can be provided to their troops in eastern Kherson.

This Ukrainian operation may also be the final throw of the dice for 2023. In his interview with The Economist, Ukrainian Commander in Chief Valery Zaluzhny notes that: "There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough."

As the war's most informed observer, Zaluzhny's views are crucial. Not only does it mean that the Dnipro operation is perhaps the only location where there is any possibility of a breakthrough but that even there, a return to a war of manoeuvre with deep penetrations into the Russian-occupied south is a low probability. There is no certainty of success. And a Ukrainian failure would have consequences, such as the loss of its east-bank forces and political support for Ukraine.

Achieving this crossing successfully has been a significant Ukrainian feat. Given the masses of UAVs and other sensors on the battlefield, crossing the river and then beginning an advance is a major tactical achievement.

Despite this, there remains much at risk for the Ukrainians in Kherson. The situation on the eastern bank of the Dnipro remains tactically perilous. The Russians are now well aware of the danger it poses. There is considerable hard fighting ahead if they are to realise the full potential of this operation.

Mick Ryan is a strategist and retired Australian Army major general. He served in East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan, and as a strategist on the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff. He is also a non-resident fellow of the Lowy Institute and at the Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies.

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On 11/19/2023 at 1:12 PM, Gatorubet said:

it is entirely possible that this information is true, but equally as possible that Russia lies about the number it has in service or the number it has in storage. Or, more likely, that the number it has in storage is correct - but very few of them work because parts have been stolen and sold, while the vehicles engines and tires have not been kept up and so they can’t get the damn thing to the front.  

On 11/19/2023 at 7:09 PM, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

If they were in working condition they's already be at the front.

Yeah, that's what all of this comes to - if the Russians had it, we'd have seen it.  

Putin knows that the nuclear stick will keep China or NATO from invading Russia, so there's no point in keeping working stuff in storage, especially since, like Gatorubet said, much of the good stuff has been stolen and sold years ago (and some of it even legally by the state, to foreign countries to maintain their gear).  Getting replacement parts will not be easy for those vehicles whose production lines shut down years or decades ago since, again, there's a thriving international black market for the stuff, and/or sanctions have hurt (maybe Iran or North Korea can help).

And then there is the report above that Russia will "fully" mobilize after Putin's "election" next March.  I'm guessing that means the "election" will be a mandate to start sweeping Moscow/St. Petersburg/etc., but it seems like the only men they could round up that wouldn't impact the economy....would have already been rounded up under the "stealth" mobilization.  That four months between now and the election is plenty of time for the Ukrainians to do even more.  

And what heavy equipment do they equip those freshly mobilized in April or May (assuming they get a 2-3 weeks of training)?

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2 hours ago, Nivek said:

No, they are rapists, thieves, murderers, child killers, pedophiles, kidnappers and terrorists.    They need to be isolated and forced to live in their own filth.  

I think the phrase "happier than pigs in shit" was originally used to describe Russians.  

Their pigpen is their god awful shit hole of a country, and vast majority of them appear to be thrilled to death with it.  I fully agree with this sentiment, isolate them and let them wallow in their own self created misery.  

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6 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I think the phrase "happier than pigs in shit" was originally used to describe Russians.  

Their pigpen is their god awful shit hole of a country, and vast majority of them appear to be thrilled to death with it.  I fully agree with this sentiment, isolate them and let them wallow in their own self created misery.  

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Today is the day that protests on the Maidan began to kick off the Revolution of Dignity in Ukraine.  Below is the tweet that started it, along with an identical Facebook post. 
 

“RT. We are meeting at 10:30 under the Independence Monument. Dress warm, bring umbrellas, tea, coffee, and friends.” 
 

Ukraine’s “Nazi” protests were kicked off by a man named Mustafa Nayeem writing in Russian. Incidentally, in 2018 I had the pleasure to meet him and get a tour and personal history of the Maidan sites.  One of those people who was where they needed to be in history. 

 

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