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[Parliament 14017]

20 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

I think that’s a Space X launch.

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18 hours ago, B00M said:

what’s the difference between these missiles? 
 

hopefully this works better than the launchers they’ve put on the USVs that so far seem ineffective against the helicopters that are gunning them down 

The R73s are air defense missiles that are normally only shot from aircraft. I'm guessing this just gives them another platform to fire some air defense missiles they have in their stocks that they currently can't use much of because of a lack of aircraft.

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Edited May 19 by Parliament

[KYHorn 16720]

On 5/15/2024 at 2:58 PM, KYHorn said:

Contrary to the text of the tweet below, this is a pretty unclear answer here by Blinken regarding Ukraine striking in Russia with American weapons

 

 

 

On 5/15/2024 at 3:07 PM, Dahobbs said:

That's probably the point. "I can't give you permission" *wink wink*

Here's some unfortunate clarity. 

 

 

 

Edited May 19 by KYHorn

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Is it, “Don’t attack Russia proper,” or, “Don’t attack Russia proper (wink)”?

[Braff Zacklin 13299]

Yeah, Tommy, before ze Germans get there.

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[flatdawgs 1241]

7 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Viipuri? Somewhere, Simo Häyhä is smiling.

[Brisketexan 103650]

24 minutes ago, flatdawgs said:

Viipuri? Somewhere, Simo Häyhä is smiling.

Yep.  The Karelian diaspora population in Finland is as well.  They....remain pissed off.

[Gatorubet 29765]

[Gatorubet 29765]

37 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I am not sure how they are going to hold Crimea when all of their transport ships will be at the bottom of the sea before they can do their mini D-Day.  

I look forward to seeing Abrams tanks cross the border in the west and start driving toward what is left of the bridge

[F250 28529]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

 

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[PTINS 3422]

On 5/18/2024 at 9:34 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

From the Newsweek article in the thread; Newsweek.com/russia-gazprom

Putin's Crown Jewel Forced Into Fire Sale Amid Record Losses
Published May 09, 2024 at 7:38 AM EDT

By Brendan Cole
Senior News Reporter

Gazprom, the energy giant at the heart of Russia's economy, has announced it is selling property in Moscow, one week after posting record losses linked to restricted supplies to Europe linked to Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The company said on Wednesday that the properties include office and non-residential buildings, a car parking lot in the capital, and the Imperial Park Hotel and spa sanatorium and resort complex in Rogozino village, just outside of Moscow.

"Gazprom is engaged in a fire sale. They had their worst year in decades, and their production has fallen precipitously, down to what it was in the 1970s," said Tom O'Donnell, an energy and geopolitical analyst based in Berlin.

"This is a result of a miscalculation by Putin," he told Newsweek.

In announcing the real estate sale, Gazprom posted a statement on Telegram next to phone numbers for prospective purchasers. "Taking into account the completion of the relocation of the Gazprom Group companies to St. Petersburg, PJSC Gazprom is announcing its intention to sell real estate in Moscow," the statement said.

Until 2023, the majority state-owned multinational energy corporation headquartered in Putin's home city, St. Petersburg, was the world's largest publicly listed natural gas company and Russia's biggest company by revenue.

However, last week, Gazprom Group, which also includes oil and power businesses, posted a net loss of 629 billion rubles ($6.9 billion) for 2023, according to Bloomberg, its first loss since 1999.

Core profit, or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), slumped to $7.2 billion in 2023 compared with $25.1 billion in 2022, the agency said.

Gazprom has restricted gas flows to Europe amid the Kremlin's retaliation for Western support of Ukraine. Decreasing gas prices due to mild weather, sluggish demand, full inventories, and Western sanctions have also hurt Russia's revenues.

O'Donnell, a fellow at the Wilson Center think tank, said that before the full-scale invasion, Russia had supplied Europe with 40 percent of its gas, and Putin had been planning to make the continent more dependent on its energy export.

He said that before the war, Putin had cut off gas, mostly through the Nord Stream pipelines and conduits through Belarus and Poland in what was "part of his war strategy."

"It was intended to shock Europe and force them into submission with an energy war to prevent their acting in solidarity with Ukraine. To his surprise, this did not happen," O'Donnell said.

Gazprom has not published its export statistics since the start of 2023 but Reuters said its calculations showed that the energy giant's natural gas supplies to Europe had slumped 55.6 percent to 28.3 billion cubic meters (bcm) in 2023.

Last October, Gazprom said in the first half of 2023 that gas production in the first half of 2023 had decreased by nearly a quarter (24.7 percent) which independent Russian-language news outlet Agentstvo reported was the lowest since Soviet times.

From the comments in the article:

Russia is going to start having massive problems with power generation. The natural gas fired steam turbines have a very short life expectancy if "minor" and "major" refits are not completed on a 3 and 5 year basis... precision bearings are replaced and drive shafts are checked at theses times as well as numerous other components. I imagine or hope these all are under sanction. If they are, "home building" replacements isn't something that's going to work on these incredibly massive and precise machines. Once these start failing and electrical grid load is transfer to an increasingly small number of them their attrition rate will go up.... and the lights will start to go out. Dozens and dozens of these rebuilds would normally happen on an annual basis in a rotating / staggered fashion. When this next winter hits and the demand is at peak I expect Russia's energy grid to be in worse shape than Ukraines.

In the mid 80's, the Exxon operated Blue Water Gas Plant in Louisiana was running at 110% capacity due to record offshore production volumes. Plant owners opted to forego scheduled maintenance (48,000 hrs/5 years) on the GE Frame 5 Gas Turbines (DC 10 engines, ~ 45,000 HP), which would have reduced plant capacity by 33% for ~ 2 months, and cost of ~ $1-2 million.  Later, the turbines had a major failure, that lasted 6+ months, at a cost ~ $5+ million.

The turbines rotate at 4,670 RPM, driving a gas compressor that moves 350 million ft3/day. The millwrights who do this work, "known as the most highly trained workforce in every industry they serve", are not the same yahoo's Russia has building tank engines by hand.

I expect Russia will run the existing equipment flat out until they don't run anymore. 

[Gatorubet 29765]

I expect Russia will run the existing equipment flat out until they don't run anymore. 

You can get shot now for not producing electricity - or get shot later for not producing electricity.   I’m pretty sure I know which one they will pick.

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[PTINS 3422]

3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

4 hours ago, PTINS said:

I expect Russia will run the existing equipment flat out until they don't run anymore. 

You can get shot now for not producing electricity - or get shot later for not producing electricity.   I’m pretty sure I know which one they will pick.

Other comments referenced the 6 Gazprom execs who "suicided" themselves in 2022, probably for recognizing how bad the Special Operation was going to impact selling gas to Europe.

Fucked around, Found out.

[Gatorubet 29765]

3 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Other comments referenced the 6 Gazprom execs who "suicided" themselves in 2022, probably for recognizing how bad the Special Operation was going to impact selling gas to Europe.

Fucked around, Found out.

Or, really no need to audit the books when things are going great and everyone’s sucking on the European gas teat, but when shit goes south and they look at the books and they see how much has been embezzled, Putin finds religion and

kills them for hindsight graft, and seizes their assets for the war. 

You can’t get rich in Russia unless you are a part of the organized approved grift.  But because you are rich due to the approved grift, you are always subject to extortion and manipulation in good times, and arrest and execution in bad times. 

[Brisketexan 103650]

33 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

But because you are rich due to the approved grift, you are always subject to extortion and manipulation in good times, and arrest and execution in bad times. 

Leopards, faces, and all that.  And we have a parade of idiots right here at home who think they are Leopards.  Nope.  Y'all are just future faces to be eaten.

[Chad Fuck 17309]

46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Leopards, faces, and all that.  And we have a parade of idiots right here at home who think they are Leopards.  Nope.  Y'all are just future faces to be eaten.

 

[KYHorn 16720]

On 5/19/2024 at 8:22 AM, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

 

 

 

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[bolverk 29097]

Several photos of damage in Vovchansk along the border with Russia near Kharkiv. Some dead bodies but no gore. 

 

 

[bolverk 29097]

"Son, you got a cooking pot on your head."

Wait for it.

 

 

 

[B00M 6033]

On 5/20/2024 at 8:28 AM, PTINS said:

From the Newsweek article in the thread; Newsweek.com/russia-gazprom

Putin's Crown Jewel Forced Into Fire Sale Amid Record Losses
Published May 09, 2024 at 7:38 AM EDT

By Brendan Cole
Senior News Reporter

Gazprom, the energy giant at the heart of Russia's economy, has announced it is selling property in Moscow, one week after posting record losses linked to restricted supplies to Europe linked to Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

The company said on Wednesday that the properties include office and non-residential buildings, a car parking lot in the capital, and the Imperial Park Hotel and spa sanatorium and resort complex in Rogozino village, just outside of Moscow.

"Gazprom is engaged in a fire sale. They had their worst year in decades, and their production has fallen precipitously, down to what it was in the 1970s," said Tom O'Donnell, an energy and geopolitical analyst based in Berlin.

"This is a result of a miscalculation by Putin," he told Newsweek.

In announcing the real estate sale, Gazprom posted a statement on Telegram next to phone numbers for prospective purchasers. "Taking into account the completion of the relocation of the Gazprom Group companies to St. Petersburg, PJSC Gazprom is announcing its intention to sell real estate in Moscow," the statement said.

Until 2023, the majority state-owned multinational energy corporation headquartered in Putin's home city, St. Petersburg, was the world's largest publicly listed natural gas company and Russia's biggest company by revenue.

However, last week, Gazprom Group, which also includes oil and power businesses, posted a net loss of 629 billion rubles ($6.9 billion) for 2023, according to Bloomberg, its first loss since 1999.

Core profit, or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), slumped to $7.2 billion in 2023 compared with $25.1 billion in 2022, the agency said.

Gazprom has restricted gas flows to Europe amid the Kremlin's retaliation for Western support of Ukraine. Decreasing gas prices due to mild weather, sluggish demand, full inventories, and Western sanctions have also hurt Russia's revenues.

O'Donnell, a fellow at the Wilson Center think tank, said that before the full-scale invasion, Russia had supplied Europe with 40 percent of its gas, and Putin had been planning to make the continent more dependent on its energy export.

He said that before the war, Putin had cut off gas, mostly through the Nord Stream pipelines and conduits through Belarus and Poland in what was "part of his war strategy."

"It was intended to shock Europe and force them into submission with an energy war to prevent their acting in solidarity with Ukraine. To his surprise, this did not happen," O'Donnell said.

Gazprom has not published its export statistics since the start of 2023 but Reuters said its calculations showed that the energy giant's natural gas supplies to Europe had slumped 55.6 percent to 28.3 billion cubic meters (bcm) in 2023.

Last October, Gazprom said in the first half of 2023 that gas production in the first half of 2023 had decreased by nearly a quarter (24.7 percent) which independent Russian-language news outlet Agentstvo reported was the lowest since Soviet times.

From the comments in the article:

Russia is going to start having massive problems with power generation. The natural gas fired steam turbines have a very short life expectancy if "minor" and "major" refits are not completed on a 3 and 5 year basis... precision bearings are replaced and drive shafts are checked at theses times as well as numerous other components. I imagine or hope these all are under sanction. If they are, "home building" replacements isn't something that's going to work on these incredibly massive and precise machines. Once these start failing and electrical grid load is transfer to an increasingly small number of them their attrition rate will go up.... and the lights will start to go out. Dozens and dozens of these rebuilds would normally happen on an annual basis in a rotating / staggered fashion. When this next winter hits and the demand is at peak I expect Russia's energy grid to be in worse shape than Ukraines.

In the mid 80's, the Exxon operated Blue Water Gas Plant in Louisiana was running at 110% capacity due to record offshore production volumes. Plant owners opted to forego scheduled maintenance (48,000 hrs/5 years) on the GE Frame 5 Gas Turbines (DC 10 engines, ~ 45,000 HP), which would have reduced plant capacity by 33% for ~ 2 months, and cost of ~ $1-2 million.  Later, the turbines had a major failure, that lasted 6+ months, at a cost ~ $5+ million.

The turbines rotate at 4,670 RPM, driving a gas compressor that moves 350 million ft3/day. The millwrights who do this work, "known as the most highly trained workforce in every industry they serve", are not the same yahoo's Russia has building tank engines by hand.

I expect Russia will run the existing equipment flat out until they don't run anymore. 

NSIAP, perhaps the most appropriate use of this gif ever

[KYHorn 16720]

 

Incoming from just across the Russian border...but Ukraine shouldn't shoot back because that will escalate things.

Edited May 21 by KYHorn

[Schulz2.0 28652]

12 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

Incoming from just across the Russian border...but Ukraine shouldn't shoot back because that will escalate things.

The Ukrainians should just say "fuck it" and do it anyway. 

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[SquishMitten 10373]

Overall, seems it would be better for them to use our stuff in Russian territory. Not that I actually give a shit about their civilian casualties, but it matters in theory. Our shit is more accurate and would be much more likely to hit the military targets they’re aiming at

[b_p 467]

7 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

The Ukrainians should just say "fuck it" and do it anyway. 

Unfortunately, due to current politics (not trying to CR), that could lead to fewer shipments of our good tools. It’s bullshit, but that’s what’s going on. 

[atomheartbevo 89044]

Didn’t realize it was that small

 

[KYHorn 16720]

Here's a real escalation

Russia starts ‘tactical nuclear drills’ near Ukraine border

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/22/russia-starts-tactical-nuclear-drills-near-ukraine-border 

Spoiler

nuclear drills’ near Ukraine border
‘First stage’ of exercises involves Iskander and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles and is seen as a warning to Ukraine’s Western allies.

Russian soldiers on top of an an Iskander missile launching system capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. A weapon appears o be lifted by a crane system into the air
Russian soldiers on an Iskander missile launching system during the exercises [Russian Defence Ministry via Reuters]
Published On 22 May 2024
22 May 2024
Russia has begun the first stage of tactical nuclear weapons drills, involving Iskander and Kinzhal missiles, in areas bordering Ukraine.

The Russian Ministry of Defence said on Tuesday that the drills were taking place in its Southern Military District, which borders and includes parts of Ukraine that Moscow has occupied and illegally annexed since its full-scale invasion began in February 2022.

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The ministry did not give the exact location of the exercises.

Belarus, where Russia said last year it was deploying tactical nuclear weapons, is also expected to take part.

Since launching its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Moscow has repeatedly talked up its arsenal of nuclear weapons and its readiness to deploy them in the face of a security threat.

Nuclear analysts say the exercises are designed as a warning signal by Russia’s President Vladimir Putin to deter Ukraine’s Western allies, which have provided weapons and intelligence to Kyiv, from wading more deeply into the war.

The exercises are to ensure that units and equipment are ready for “the combat use of non-strategic nuclear weapons to respond and unconditionally ensure the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Russian state in response to provocative statements and threats of individual Western officials against the Russian Federation”, the ministry said.

Putin ordered the drills after Western politicians suggested they might be willing to go further in their support of Ukraine.

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Earlier this month, French President Emmanuel Macron said he had not ruled out deploying troops to Ukraine under certain conditions, while the United Kingdom’s foreign minister, David Cameron, said Kyiv had the right to fire Western missiles at Russian territory.

Russia’s Southern Military District is the command centre for its offensive on Ukraine, with its headquarters in Rostov-on-Don, 60km (40 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

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The Defence Ministry published footage showing trucks carrying missiles to a field where launch systems were prepared and troops at an airfield readying a bomber to carry a nuclear warhead.

It said the drills involved practising the loading of launch vehicles, driving to designated launch sites and loading planes with Kinzhal missiles, which are hypersonic weapons.

It did not indicate whether any test firings had taken place.

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“The exercises are, obviously, a signal in response to discussion of NATO countries’ troops in Ukraine,” Nikolai Sokov, a former Soviet and Russian arms control official, told the Reuters news agency. “The most important features are advance announcement and visibility.”

Western militaries will be watching the exercises closely and seeking to draw conclusions about how much warning time they would have if Russia deployed such weapons for real, he said.

Tactical nuclear weapons, also known as non-strategic nuclear weapons, are designed for use on the battlefield and have vast destructive potential.

Russia has about 1,558 non-strategic nuclear warheads, according to the Federation of American Scientists, although there is uncertainty about the exact figures.

 

[Parliament 14017]

Secretary Yellen gives German banks the what-for.

In an unusually direct warning, she told the executives to police sanctions compliance among their banks' foreign branches and subsidiaries and reach out to foreign correspondent banking customers to do the same, especially in high-risk jurisdictions.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/yellen-urges-german-banks-boost-071602247.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGzkvGT73xBDFYWVSzfwweuUCgB4vJxP5EMMlhdyDx6JnwdT9MpVwV0TATEjojvugYWV-hmHlBsF0oM07PV6NIpAyirAqTDjiQvFx06_0_z9Fjb2slcfISD02xPWRhAdtcABx8g8ufqzotFzo40liva94MpnfL_cLh9tWJvNvkrf

[bolverk 29097]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Didn’t realize it was that small

 

 

That was surprising to me, too. It's good to have a reminder of geographic perspective. The "True Size of..." website makes it easy to compare, but Massachussets is a little funny because they include so much water around Cape Cod. Even so, the western half of MA is bigger than I'd imagined in my head.

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[Chad Fuck 17309]

This makes me angry. I can only imagine how ragey the Ukrainians are about it.

We need to ditch the limited political war playbook. Didn’t work in Korea or Vietnam and won’t work here. The only thing the Russians understand is brute force. Way past time to show them shock and awe via proxy. They picked this fight, time to bloody the bullies nose.

And before the apologists show up saying “what about nukes?” I remind you all that bullies are essentially cowards. Putin wants to live. If we show him we’re the baddest on the block he will back down. But it’s way way past time to hit him where it hurts. No more half measures. All targets within Russia should be fair game with our weapons.

[B00M 6033]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Chain link fencing cope cages? They’re certainly more aesthetically pleasing that the sheet metal 

 

[Hermanator 6693]

Checking back in for my 2 to 3 times a year check in...

Who's winning now?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11561]

at least 200,000 russians aren't, i know that much.

[RPM 26097]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

 

I applaud the effort, but it seems wasted using unguided rockets with the exception of shore barrage. They need some type of guided munition. Have they tried using baling wire and a TOW launcher?

[InkaUtexas 24933]

For hitting ports, etc, I think these will be good to go. That amount hitting a small area packs a punch.

[locodos 5256]

16 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Checking back in for my 2 to 3 times a year check in...

Who's winning now?

China

[atomheartbevo 89044]

6 minutes ago, locodos said:

China

[lucious leftfoot 126]

43 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Checking back in for my 2 to 3 times a year check in...

Who's winning now?

China + USA are the winners

Europe to some extent a loser

Russia big loser

Ukraine rekt