Русский корабль - иди нахуй

Chad Fuck · May 22

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

For hitting ports, etc, I think these will be good to go. That amount hitting a small area packs a punch.

Aimed at a dockside tank farm, I can see how it could be useful.

elfenix · May 22

4 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Aimed at a dockside tank farm, I can see how it could be useful.

MissingInAction · May 22

They'd make a great diversion for an invasion force.

atomheartbevo · May 22

6 hours ago, lucious leftfoot said:

China + USA are the winners

Europe to some extent a loser

Russia big loser

Ukraine rekt

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

Chad Fuck · May 22

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

Poles tired of getting run through every century or so by their neighbors. They’ve had enough of everyone’s shit.

bolverk · May 22

32 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

Just realize you're talking to GRHorn, and his bashing our allies will make sense.

InkaUtexas · May 23

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

Watch the Serbs.

Armybrat · May 23

13 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Watch the Serbs.

Those sumbitches are overtaking the Dutch, aren’t they?

lucious leftfoot · May 23

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

I agree that increased cohesion is a positive, but I think that the continent’s industrial and economic workhorse taking a permanent hit cannot be discounted. One of Germany’s bigger economic advantages was easy access cheap Russian gas. You can definitely argue that it needed to happen and/or it was inevitable, but switching to higher priced energy inputs is consequential and the data is bearing that out. I worry about the consequences of any sort of Western deindustrialization over the medium to long term. Hello, Rust Belt.

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Poles tired of getting run through every century or so by their neighbors. They’ve had enough of everyone’s shit.

Historical powers are powers for multiple reasons as are historical doormats. Geography, access to natural resources, human capital.

I wouldn't expect Poland to suddenly to be some juggernaut. Germany, France and UK need to figure the shit out. Especially France. They're probably #2 right now as far as projecting power globally.

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Just realize you're talking to GRHorn, and his bashing our allies will make sense.

Nonsense.

InkaUtexas · May 23

20 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Those sumbitches are overtaking the Dutch, aren’t they?

Yep, ask the Turks.

Schulz2.0 · May 23

PTINS · May 23

8 hours ago, locodos said:

China

China was always gonna win; Russia has no other real geographical choice than to put their teeny 'nads into China's hands.

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Europe is mostly off of Russian oil and gas and its defense industries are picking up orders and new customers, and they are much more unified than five years ago, including Finland and Sweden going all in with NATO. Eastern Europe is finding its footing in the EU and Poland is moving towards being top dog or very close to it - Germany abdicated its role and Poland easily filled that vacuum.

Europe found a reasonable alternative to Russian oil & gas , which is huge. Europe is by far the chosen market for Russian O&G, due to geography, simply supply and demand.

That connectivity has been temporarily benched the past 2+ years, but simple economics dictates that it will, and must work. The location of 1 of the 3 worlds largest energy producers proximate to a large population and demand center has to happen. Too much money involved. North America and the Middle East have resources, but no people or demand within their shadows. Russian and Europe is different.

China is a demand center, but building a pipeline network from $iberia to coa$tal China is problematic for many reason$, most notably that Ru$$ian ha$ to depend on China and China ha$ to depend on Ru$$ia. There are reasons why Alaska North Slope gas has never been connected by pipeline to the lower 48.

For the benefit of everyone, Russian resources must find a way into the market that it is already connected too. That is everyone, except the large LNG producers, the US, Australia & Qatar.

Now that Europe has emphatically demonstrated that it doesn't need Russian energy, they will be able to secure that same energy, cheaper than before, under a unified umbrella in a post sanction world. The long term Take-or-Pay contracts of the past will be replaced with interruptible, best efforts contracts, at a fraction of the cost.

This will wear the mask of war reparations, must it will smell like a deal that can't be refused.

22 minutes ago, lucious leftfoot said:

I agree that increased cohesion is a positive, but I think that the continent’s industrial and economic workhorse taking a permanent hit cannot be discounted. One of Germany’s bigger economic advantages was easy access cheap Russian gas. You can definitely argue that it needed to happen and/or it was inevitable, but switching to higher priced energy inputs is consequential ...

Historical powers are powers for multiple reasons ... Geography, access to natural resources, human capital.

Germany, France and UK need to figure the shit out. Especially France. They're probably #2 right now as far as projecting power globally.

Germany still has that same access to cheap Russian gas, but now it has the EU & NATO as advisors and influencers to future energy agreements with Russia. They are the still the same industrial base, and still the landing point for the Nord Stream Pipelines, but they are not alone anymore in dealing with Russia.

At its core, Germany and Germans are efficient. And resourceful.

They co-existed with the Comanche's in Texas when nobody else could.

And, I like Annalena, their Federal Minister for Foreign Affairs; Brisket? Down Boy!!!

Judge Roybeanbag · May 23

14 minutes ago, PTINS said:

China was always gonna win; Russia has no other real geographical choice than to put their teeny 'nads into China's hands.

Europe found a reasonable alternative to Russian oil & gas , which is huge. Europe is by far the chosen market for Russian O&G, due to geography, simply supply and demand.

That connectivity has been temporarily benched the past 2+ years, but simple economics dictates that it will, and must work. The location of 1 of the 3 worlds largest energy producers proximate to a large population and demand center has to happen. Too much money involved. North America and the Middle East have resources, but no people or demand within their shadows. Russian and Europe is different.

China is a demand center, but building a pipeline network from $iberia to coa$tal China is problematic for many reason$, most notably that Ru$$ian ha$ to depend on China and China ha$ to depend on Ru$$ia. There are reasons why Alaska North Slope gas has never been connected by pipeline to the lower 48.

For the benefit of everyone, Russian resources must find a way into the market that it is already connected too. That is everyone, except the large LNG producers, the US, Australia & Qatar.

Now that Europe has emphatically demonstrated that it doesn't need Russian energy, they will be able to secure that same energy, cheaper than before, under a unified umbrella in a post sanction world. The long term Take-or-Pay contracts of the past will be replaced with interruptible, best efforts contracts, at a fraction of the cost.

This will wear the mask of war reparations, must it will smell like a deal that can't be refused.

Germany still has that same access to cheap Russian gas, but now it has the EU & NATO as advisors and influencers to future energy agreements with Russia. They are the still the same industrial base, and still the landing point for the Nord Stream Pipelines, but they are not alone anymore in dealing with Russia.

At its core, Germany and Germans are efficient. And resourceful.

They co-existed with the Comanche's in Texas when nobody else could.

And, I like Annalena, their Federal Minister for Foreign Affairs; Brisket? Down Boy!!!

Woof! I like mustard on my biscuits!

Parliament · May 23

2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Poles tired of getting run through every century or so by their neighbors. They’ve had enough of everyone’s shit.

Latvia, Estonia and that other one too. NATO membership finally gives them the change to not get raped by Russia and/or Germany. They aren't gonna ever go back.

Brisketexan · May 23

Woof! I like mustard on my biscuits!

Back off, the frau is mine.

Judge Roybeanbag · May 23

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Back off, the frau is mine.

The frau haus holds many sausages, my friend! Just not all at once.

Gatorubet · May 23

Apropos to nothing - I just got back from the House of Blues in the French Quarter, watching Chris Isaak and his band with my son. Lots of boomers, naturally, but a surprising number of young people, including two smoking hot lipstick lesbians right in front of me, who were making out to Wicked Game.

Turn off the TV people, and you non-Austin types go find some live music in your town.

F250 · May 23

2 hours ago, lucious leftfoot said:

I agree that increased cohesion is a positive, but I think that the continent’s industrial and economic workhorse taking a permanent hit cannot be discounted. One of Germany’s bigger economic advantages was easy access cheap Russian gas. You can definitely argue that it needed to happen and/or it was inevitable, but switching to higher priced energy inputs is consequential and the data is bearing that out. I worry about the consequences of any sort of Western deindustrialization over the medium to long term. Hello, Rust Belt.

Historical powers are powers for multiple reasons as are historical doormats. Geography, access to natural resources, human capital.

I wouldn't expect Poland to suddenly to be some juggernaut. Germany, France and UK need to figure the shit out. Especially France. They're probably #2 right now as far as projecting power globally.

Nonsense.

atomheartbevo · May 23

If you want a start-to-finish primer on Ukrainian drone operations, complete with hunting down an individual soldier, and how the first-person drones work, and what the drones look like, this is it. Ukraine have taken drone operations up to a massive scale.

Edited May 23 by atomheartbevo

Pato del Muerto · May 23

2 hours ago, PTINS said:

China was always gonna win; Russia has no other real geographical choice than to put their teeny 'nads into China's hands.

Europe found a reasonable alternative to Russian oil & gas , which is huge. Europe is by far the chosen market for Russian O&G, due to geography, simply supply and demand.

That connectivity has been temporarily benched the past 2+ years, but simple economics dictates that it will, and must work. The location of 1 of the 3 worlds largest energy producers proximate to a large population and demand center has to happen. Too much money involved. North America and the Middle East have resources, but no people or demand within their shadows. Russian and Europe is different.

China is a demand center, but building a pipeline network from $iberia to coa$tal China is problematic for many reason$, most notably that Ru$$ian ha$ to depend on China and China ha$ to depend on Ru$$ia. There are reasons why Alaska North Slope gas has never been connected by pipeline to the lower 48.

For the benefit of everyone, Russian resources must find a way into the market that it is already connected too. That is everyone, except the large LNG producers, the US, Australia & Qatar.

Now that Europe has emphatically demonstrated that it doesn't need Russian energy, they will be able to secure that same energy, cheaper than before, under a unified umbrella in a post sanction world. The long term Take-or-Pay contracts of the past will be replaced with interruptible, best efforts contracts, at a fraction of the cost.

This will wear the mask of war reparations, must it will smell like a deal that can't be refused.

Germany still has that same access to cheap Russian gas, but now it has the EU & NATO as advisors and influencers to future energy agreements with Russia. They are the still the same industrial base, and still the landing point for the Nord Stream Pipelines, but they are not alone anymore in dealing with Russia.

At its core, Germany and Germans are efficient. And resourceful.

They co-existed with the Comanche's in Texas when nobody else could.

And, I like Annalena, their Federal Minister for Foreign Affairs; Brisket? Down Boy!!!

Juliette Lewis thing going on there. Also some Jennifer Lawrence.

Gatorubet · May 23

37 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Juliette Lewis thing going on there. Also some Jennifer Lawrence.

Also - some 1975 Hustler magazine, but I can’t say I remember the name

Schulz2.0 · May 23

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/23/china-russia-lethal-aid-ukraine-war-uk-defence-secretary-us

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elfenix · May 23

6 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Apropos to nothing - I just got back from the House of Blues in the French Quarter, watching Chris Isaak and his band with my son. Lots of boomers, naturally, but a surprising number of young people, including two smoking hot lipstick lesbians right in front of me, who were making out to Wicked Game.

Turn off the TV people, and you non-Austin types go find some live music in your town.

This is not the picture I was hoping for as it was loading.

NotActuallyALonghorn · May 23

10 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Not to detract from her skills, but there is a big difference in field stripping a rifle and trying to remove a stuck sight from a rail. Why it is so stuck is probably the better question. And why are the sights on a rail mounted on the dust cover. That's like the least stable part of one of those rifles.

JMFP · May 23

10 hours ago, PTINS said:

China was always gonna win; Russia has no other real geographical choice than to put their teeny 'nads into China's hands.

Europe found a reasonable alternative to Russian oil & gas , which is huge. Europe is by far the chosen market for Russian O&G, due to geography, simply supply and demand.

That connectivity has been temporarily benched the past 2+ years, but simple economics dictates that it will, and must work. The location of 1 of the 3 worlds largest energy producers proximate to a large population and demand center has to happen. Too much money involved. North America and the Middle East have resources, but no people or demand within their shadows. Russian and Europe is different.

China is a demand center, but building a pipeline network from $iberia to coa$tal China is problematic for many reason$, most notably that Ru$$ian ha$ to depend on China and China ha$ to depend on Ru$$ia. There are reasons why Alaska North Slope gas has never been connected by pipeline to the lower 48.

For the benefit of everyone, Russian resources must find a way into the market that it is already connected too. That is everyone, except the large LNG producers, the US, Australia & Qatar.

Now that Europe has emphatically demonstrated that it doesn't need Russian energy, they will be able to secure that same energy, cheaper than before, under a unified umbrella in a post sanction world. The long term Take-or-Pay contracts of the past will be replaced with interruptible, best efforts contracts, at a fraction of the cost.

This will wear the mask of war reparations, must it will smell like a deal that can't be refused.

Germany still has that same access to cheap Russian gas, but now it has the EU & NATO as advisors and influencers to future energy agreements with Russia. They are the still the same industrial base, and still the landing point for the Nord Stream Pipelines, but they are not alone anymore in dealing with Russia.

At its core, Germany and Germans are efficient. And resourceful.

They co-existed with the Comanche's in Texas when nobody else could.

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It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life.

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atomheartbevo · May 23

When they make these small announcements, feels like that's stuff that's not he plane to Poland as we speak.

Gatorubet · May 24

On 5/22/2024 at 11:10 AM, Hermanator said:

Checking back in for my 2 to 3 times a year check in...

Who's winning now?

Lockheed Martin.

Schulz2.0 · May 24

Gatorubet · May 24

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-will-strike-british-targets-if-uk-weapons-are-used-hit-its-2024-05-23/

Russia has a taste of NATO’s old kit. I do not think they want to see a whole lot of the new stuff.

InkaUtexas · May 24

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-will-strike-british-targets-if-uk-weapons-are-used-hit-its-2024-05-23/

Russia has a taste of NATO’s old kit. I do not think they want to see a whole lot of the new stuff.

Only thing they could hit, unless they use Subs would be the RAF base in Cyprus.

Gatorubet · May 24

7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Only thing they could hit, unless they use Subs would be the RAF base in Cyprus.

if it happened, then Great Britain would be all like

atomheartbevo · May 24

From that tweet Schultz posted:

Major-General Ivan Popov
Lieutenant-General Yuri Kuznetsov
Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov
Lieutenant-General Vadim Shamarin

Four high profile arrests of the Russian military respectively defense ministry, all charged with corruption and bribery.

Forget about the charges, all Russian generals and officials are guilty of that, even in large quantities. This is not the reason that those men have been detained.

This is a purge and the reasons can be all attributed that those men have been a severe problem for the Putin regime. Something is cooking (again) in Moscow. It is obvious that there is a huge powerplay ongoing. Shoigu's transfer to the security council is just another sign that there is a "modification" of the power structures in Russia ongoing.

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Cue the Tom Clancy plots.

dimyh · May 24

Also there is a procurement minister that has also been detained. Interesting that Putin is making this change when their armies should be going full bore while Ukraine is trying to get their manpower and munition shortages worked out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c900qz4wll4o

When one top defence official is arrested in Russia, that’s interesting.

When five senior defence figures are handcuffed in less than a month, that’s a purge.

The latest senior military man to be locked up is Lt Gen Vadim Shamarin, deputy chief of the army’s general staff and head of the Main Communications Directorate of the Russian Armed Forces.

Accused of large-scale bribe-taking, he’s been placed in pre-trial detention for two months.

Hours later came the news that a senior defence ministry procurement official, Vladimir Verteletsky, has also been detained. According to Russia’s Investigative Committee, he’s been charged with abuse of authority in the execution of a state defence order.

The roll-call of Russian defence figures who, within a month, have fallen from grace on corruption charges includes Deputy Defence Minister Timur Ivanov and Lt-Gen Yuri Kuznetsov, head of the defence ministry’s personnel directorate.

There’s also been change at the very top of the ministry. In a recent reshuffle, President Vladimir Putin replaced his defence minister of 12 years, Sergei Shoigu, with technocrat economist Andrei Belousov. The move was widely interpreted as an attempt by the Kremlin to boost efficiency in the Russian military and tackle corruption.

Mr Shoigu was given a new job, that of secretary of the Russian Security Council. As for Vadim Shamarin’s boss, Valery Gerasimov, for now he remains chief of the general staff of the Russian armed forces.

But high-profile arrests in the ministry and the general staff reflect badly on the military leadership that has been directing Russia’s war in Ukraine.

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Mr Putin's long-standing Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu was replaced earlier this month