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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Giant game of whack-a-mole?  Advance in the opposite direction as troops approach, then have other units do the same elsewhere?

I'd have to imagine that they've sown plenty of confusion on the field, time to exploit that.  

 

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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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16 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I'd have to imagine that they've sown plenty of confusion on the field, time to exploit that.  

9 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

That's how it strikes me.  

With as many drones as there are, I’m still amazed they are pulling this off.

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

With as many drones as there are, I’m still amazed they are pulling this off.

Yeah but we don't really know how many drones there are in that part of the front, nor how they're being utilized.  

It seems like the Russians either (a) don't have enough to cover or (b) weren't using them.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

And there’s no way any of them are going to want to be released back to Russia - any border guards released back to Russia will be blamed and sent to the front lines…..which now appears to be behind the Russian border,

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1 hour ago, Harrison Stafford said:

Now, Russia can do something with which they’re familiar.  Retreating and burning their cities and villages on the way 

And don’t forget the villagers.  They have to burn the villagers as well.

Is this the first large-scales invasion of Russia since WWII?  It has to be.

This is from 11am our time

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Mentioned earlier, but holy shit he really got fucked up  also telling that Ukraine is operating drones inside of Russia at scale on the battlefield.  He was probably vlogging and they saw where he was at.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prominent-russian-tv-reporter-survives-ukraine-strike-embattled-kursk-region-2024-08-07/

Prominent Russian TV war reporter Yevgeny Poddubny survived a Ukrainian drone strike in southern Russia's Kursk region on Wednesday and was in intensive care in a local hospital, his television channel and officials said. Rossiya-24, in a post on the Telegram messaging app, said Poddubny came under fire from a Ukrainian drone while reporting in Kursk region, where Russia's military said it has been battling to contain an incursion by up to 1,000 soldiers.

 

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🇺🇦 air assets are now in the area.
 

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🇺🇦⚡️🇷🇺 Here’s how the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ operation to capture Russia's Kursk region began.
FPV kamikaze drones attacked the checkpoint "Sudja" located on the state border.
🏳️ Following this, 50 Russian border guards voluntarily raised white flags and surrendered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

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⚡Russia 'should feel what it has done' to Ukraine, Zelensky says.

"Russia brought war to our land, and it should feel what it has done," President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his evening address on Aug 8, which avoided a direct mention of the ongoing fighting in Russia's Kursk Oblast.

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41 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Mentioned earlier, but holy shit he really got fucked up  also telling that Ukraine is operating drones inside of Russia at scale on the battlefield.  He was probably vlogging and they saw where he was at.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prominent-russian-tv-reporter-survives-ukraine-strike-embattled-kursk-region-2024-08-07/

Prominent Russian TV war reporter Yevgeny Poddubny survived a Ukrainian drone strike in southern Russia's Kursk region on Wednesday and was in intensive care in a local hospital, his television channel and officials said. Rossiya-24, in a post on the Telegram messaging app, said Poddubny came under fire from a Ukrainian drone while reporting in Kursk region, where Russia's military said it has been battling to contain an incursion by up to 1,000 soldiers.

 

those Russian grunts gotta love that a rando non-soldier is getting primo care, helicopter airlifted to an actual hospital... while 99% of them get wounded and have to care for themselves or just die on the battlefield

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56 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

I don't fully understand the swing northwards. It seems like it would've been better to get to Kursk and then swing back down behind them southwards along the border.

Korenevo is the main logistics and rail hub for the Kharkiv sector, cutting that off means the attacks on Kharkiv will fail

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58 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Mentioned earlier, but holy shit he really got fucked up  also telling that Ukraine is operating drones inside of Russia at scale on the battlefield.  He was probably vlogging and they saw where he was at.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prominent-russian-tv-reporter-survives-ukraine-strike-embattled-kursk-region-2024-08-07/

Prominent Russian TV war reporter Yevgeny Poddubny survived a Ukrainian drone strike in southern Russia's Kursk region on Wednesday and was in intensive care in a local hospital, his television channel and officials said. Rossiya-24, in a post on the Telegram messaging app, said Poddubny came under fire from a Ukrainian drone while reporting in Kursk region, where Russia's military said it has been battling to contain an incursion by up to 1,000 soldiers.

 

is he . . . does he still blog?

Oh, no, no. He has health problems

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🇺🇲🇺🇦🇷🇺 An advisor to President Zelensky tells WaPo that they are formally requesting that the Biden Admin allow them to use ATACMS to hit the Russian air bases being used to launch sorties against the Kursk operation. 

 

Ukraine has obviously been asking both publicly and privately for restrictions to be lifted for a very long time, but formal requests are submitted more strategically, based on the informal response from the Admin. 

 

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1 hour ago, MillerEP said:

I don't fully understand the swing northwards. It seems like it would've been better to get to Kursk and then swing back down behind them southwards along the border.

I don't know the objective.  But if the objective is Kursk, then it is probably to bypass defenses set up along the P200 highway and connect with Highway 38.

Kursk is a good objective today for the same reason it was in 1943.  It is an important crossroads city.  Virtually all roads of any significance in Russia go to Moscow.  And there is a highway through Kursk that does that (Highway 105, which goes down to Belgorod and eventually to Kharkiv).  But uniquely, there is also a highway (Highway 38) that goes perpendicular.  It goes broadly east-west from the Ukrainian border to Voronezh to Saratov on the Volga.  There's a major rail line that does the same thing. 

So Kursk is pretty critical as a logistics hub for any offensive action in Ukraine.  If you sever that, then it becomes pretty difficult to mount any offensive action toward Kharkiv.

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3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I don't know the objective.  But if the objective is Kursk, then it is probably to bypass defenses set up along the P200 highway and connect with Highway 38.

Kursk is a good objective today for the same reason it was in 1943.  It is an important crossroads city.  Virtually all roads of any significance in Russia go to Moscow.  And there is a highway through Kursk that does that (Highway 105, which goes down to Belgorod and eventually to Kharkiv).  But uniquely, there is also a highway (Highway 38) that goes perpendicular.  It goes broadly east-west from the Ukrainian border to Voronezh to Saratov on the Volga.  There's a major rail line that does the same thing. 

So Kursk is pretty critical as a logistics hub for any offensive action in Ukraine.  If you sever that, then it becomes pretty difficult to mount any offensive action toward Kharkiv.

Kursk.   May it fall as quickly as its namesake submarine.  

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50 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Kursk.   May it fall as quickly as its namesake submarine.  

It's difficult to tell because some of the different spellings, (Ukrainian vs Russian) but if below is correct, if I'm reading the map correctly, they are only about 10 miles from Kursk as of several hours ago.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

It's difficult to tell because some of the different spellings, (Ukrainian vs Russian) but if below is correct, if I'm reading the map correctly, they are only about 10 miles from Kursk as of several hours ago.

 

 

No. Those towns are 70+ miles from Kursk. 

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3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No. Those towns are 70+ miles from Kursk. 

Lyubimovka is right near the Sumy border so absolutely correct.  Interestingly, Novio, not gonna work here anymore, pops up for me on Google maps about 10 miles south, southwest of Kursk.  

Interestingly, the ISW had Miliutino mentioned about 10 miles southwest of there.  

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Lyubimovka is right near the Sumy border so absolutely correct.  Interestingly, Novio, not gonna work here anymore, pops up for me on Google maps about 10 miles south, southwest of Kursk.  

Interestingly, the ISW had Miliutino mentioned about 10 miles southwest of there.  

novo-ivan-ovka is next door to lyubimovka. 

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Everyone has been providing some interesting theories but I still don't know the long term objectives in Kursk. What I do know is that any use of maneuverability is going to favor the Ukrainians. They have consistently shown the ability to target the tail of the enemy, taking out logistics, etc. If this is just a temporary push to force Russian troops to redeploy then that is just extra opportunities for the Ukes to use their better coordination, better tech, better intel, to pick apart the enemy reinforcements. Plus this has been proven to be a golden opportunity to nab a good number of prisoners and some headlines just over a couple of days.

Still I do have my concerns about being able to hold ground long-term. Especially if Russia can do some damage with their glide bombs from a distance. I know that may force them to target their own buildings and infrastructure but they really don't give a shit about their own citizens. I am just worried about losing too many Ukrainian men and equipment if the area does not have any good defensive features. Ultimately this is still an attritional war and the primary strategic objective has not changed: dislodging the Russians from Ukrainian territory. Will this offensive help in that regard? Still not sure but god bless these guys for taking a chance to kick Putin in the nads for all the world to see.

 

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6 minutes ago, dimyh said:

Everyone has been providing some interesting theories but I still don't know the long term objectives in Kursk. What I do know is that any use of maneuverability is going to favor the Ukrainians. They have consistently shown the ability to target the tail of the enemy, taking out logistics, etc. If this is just a temporary push to force Russian troops to redeploy then that is just extra opportunities for the Ukes to use their better coordination, better tech, better intel, to pick apart the enemy reinforcements. Plus this has been proven to be a golden opportunity to nab a good number of prisoners and some headlines just over a couple of days.

Still I do have my concerns about being able to hold ground long-term. Especially if Russia can do some damage with their glide bombs from a distance. I know that may force them to target their own buildings and infrastructure but they really don't give a shit about their own citizens. I am just worried about losing too many Ukrainian men and equipment if the area does not have any good defensive features. Ultimately this is still an attritional war and the primary strategic objective has not changed: dislodging the Russians from Ukrainian territory. Will this offensive help in that regard? Still not sure but god bless these guys for taking a chance to kick Putin in the nads for all the world to see.

 

I don't know if this is sustainable at all, but an interesting thing I did see was heavy equipment rolling in.  (i.e. equipment for digging entrenchments).  As to whether or not this was accurate to the time and location, I have no idea.  However, if that was indeed accurate, it at least gives the appearance that the Ukrainians have every intention of digging in at some point.  If anything has been proven thus far, it's that taking territory is incredible difficult, for either side in this.  To that line of thought, if you've managed to take territory, it serves you well to defend it and attempt to keep it.  

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9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Also, this is going on.  Lipetsk appears to be roughly 250 km north and to east of Kursk.  Seems too far for ATACMS, so it's something else. 

 

 

Yeah, that's either their drones or maybe something like Storm Shadow. Most likely the drones again. 

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1 hour ago, dimyh said:

Everyone has been providing some interesting theories but I still don't know the long term objectives in Kursk. What I do know is that any use of maneuverability is going to favor the Ukrainians. They have consistently shown the ability to target the tail of the enemy, taking out logistics, etc. If this is just a temporary push to force Russian troops to redeploy then that is just extra opportunities for the Ukes to use their better coordination, better tech, better intel, to pick apart the enemy reinforcements. Plus this has been proven to be a golden opportunity to nab a good number of prisoners and some headlines just over a couple of days.

Still I do have my concerns about being able to hold ground long-term. Especially if Russia can do some damage with their glide bombs from a distance. I know that may force them to target their own buildings and infrastructure but they really don't give a shit about their own citizens. I am just worried about losing too many Ukrainian men and equipment if the area does not have any good defensive features. Ultimately this is still an attritional war and the primary strategic objective has not changed: dislodging the Russians from Ukrainian territory. Will this offensive help in that regard? Still not sure but god bless these guys for taking a chance to kick Putin in the nads for all the world to see.

 

 

I don't think Kursk is the objective, they're forcing Russia to reassign resources from other area. Those other areas might be the objective or take out resources as they're moved around. Everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face. 

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