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[MissingInAction 24,690]

1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

One. One. One. One...

DS Teal, is that you?

[The Dog 43,653]

[Gatorubet 29,915]

dammit! nm

Edited August 22 by Gatorubet

[BamaATL 16,592]

17 minutes ago, The Dog said:

At this point, might as well, the Ukrainians have called the Russian's nuclear bluff.  Russian nuclear doctrine is that if the sovereignty of Russia is in any way threatened they will respond with nuclear weapons.  I can't think of a bigger threat, than, you know, being invaded and partly occupied, no matter how small.  This is still a dangerous period because Putin may well use a tactical nuke on the field, but in Russia, and justify it by his claims to sovereignty.  

I don't think he will do it, because we've told him if does, we are in it.  However, nuking his own country was probably actually never clearly communicated (who'd have thunk it?)

[Parliament 14,062]

On 5/30/2024 at 9:21 AM, Reagan1k said:

2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

That book alone has done more to help me understand what’s going on over there than any other thing I’ve read.  

it also supports when we need to nuke the entirety of Russia from orbit

 

2 hours ago, jdhorn92 said:

No doubt, when all of this started, I did the same based on a rec on this thread.  Very telling piece. I had read some on Stalin while reading Patton's book and the ethos of the Russian soldier always intrigued me.

For those that have not read it, as @Gatorubet noted, it is a first hand account of what it is like to be in the Russian army, it will blow you away.  Louis Gossett Jr making Richard Gere do pullups and pushups in the rain is romper room as a comparison.

1234

What I thought were glitches in the Russian culture are actually features.  They’re all savages.  Always have been.

I also learned you should cut all the fat off a dog before you cook it.  Dog fat is very bitter.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

7 minutes ago, Parliament said:

 

1234

What I thought were glitches in the Russian culture are actually features.  They’re all savages.  Always have been.

I also learned you should cut all the fat off a dog before you cook it.  Dog fat is very bitter.

A few years ago I did a deep dive on a friends recommendation into the Russian Revolution and DAMN they really have not changed. From the gallows to the gulags to their response to Chernobyl, their governments have given zero fucks and it has spread to the people. They are more Mongolian than European. Khan's troops fucked more than vikings I guess.

The chip they have on their shoulder is bigger than aggy's ego.

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

At this point, might as well, the Ukrainians have called the Russian's nuclear bluff.  Russian nuclear doctrine is that if the sovereignty of Russia is in any way threatened they will respond with nuclear weapons.  I can't think of a bigger threat, than, you know, being invaded and partly occupied, no matter how small.  This is still a dangerous period because Putin may well use a tactical nuke on the field, but in Russia, and justify it by his claims to sovereignty.  

I don't think he will do it, because we've told him if does, we are in it.  However, nuking his own country was probably actually never clearly communicated (who'd have thunk it?)

 He’s already abandoned Russian civilians in the Kursk region, and the concrete bunkers are being built for Russian soldiers, not civilians.  Nuking Russian territory for a war he proudly started would not go over well, because all of the border regions would start shitting themselves over the thought of Ukraine invading and them getting nuked. If Ukraine starts sending troops into other Russian oblasts, those oblasts are liable to declare themselves independent in hopes of the international community preventing them from getting nuked.

I also think the US/EU/Japan and others would sanction anybody doing business with Russia just as hard as we are Russia, which would turbofuck China and/or India. As it stands, China is easing back on Russian imports because something has them spooked about further sanctions.

No guesses as to how the current situation plays out, but the fact that we are two weeks in and Russia hasn’t been able to gain any real victories in Kursk speaks more about the Russian manpower situation than any daily body counts we see.

And yeah all of those drones sent at Moscow may have been shot down, but they are still using up precious Russian AD and forcing the Russians to being more AD out of Ukraine and the border areas.  

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-protests-us-over-american-journalists-kursk-2024-08-20/

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MOSCOW, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Russia said it summoned a senior U.S. diplomat on Tuesday to protest over what it called the "provocative actions" of American journalists reporting from Russia's Kursk region.

The Foreign Ministry said it had told U.S. Charge d'Affaires Stephanie Holmes that the reporters had crossed illegally into the region, where Ukrainian forces mounted an incursion two weeks ago, and that Russia intended to prosecute them.

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Moscow appeared to be referring to reporting by the Washington Post and CNN from Sudzha, a Russian border town currently under Kyiv's control. In the CNN broadcast, journalists travelled with a Ukrainian military convoy from Ukraine to Sudzha, where they encountered a nearly deserted town with a few dozen elderly residents remaining.

For the Washington Post, a text reporter, a videographer and a photographer travelled to Sudzha on Saturday escorted by Ukrainian troops, and interviewed dozens of Russian civilians and Ukrainian soldiers.

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The journalists' actions "clearly prove the involvement of the United States as a direct participant in the conflict", the Foreign Ministry said.

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Contacted by Reuters, a Washington Post spokesperson said: "We are proud of our reporting on the Ukraine-Russia war and remain committed to covering all aspects of this important, evolving conflict."

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In its statement on Tuesday, Moscow added that there was "evidence of the participation of Americans PMCs (private military companies) on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during their invasion of the territory of the Russian Federation."

 

[TeeDubya 3,358]

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

At this point, might as well, the Ukrainians have called the Russian's nuclear bluff.  Russian nuclear doctrine is that if the sovereignty of Russia is in any way threatened they will respond with nuclear weapons.  I can't think of a bigger threat, than, you know, being invaded and partly occupied, no matter how small.  This is still a dangerous period because Putin may well use a tactical nuke on the field, but in Russia, and justify it by his claims to sovereignty.  

I don't think he will do it, because we've told him if does, we are in it.  However, nuking his own country was probably actually never clearly communicated (who'd have thunk it?)

well, not sure about prevailing winds, but even a low-radiation bomb in parts of Ukraine or Kursk is really close to a spread to Moscow.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

17 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-protests-us-over-american-journalists-kursk-2024-08-20/

 

Fuck it, lets send over Geraldo. Just add some trees and rivers. I will make his diorama.

 

 

[BamaATL 16,592]

15 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

well, not sure about prevailing winds, but even a low-radiation bomb in parts of Ukraine or Kursk is really close to a spread to Moscow.

That wouldn't be a huge concern (certainly not for Putin, like he fucking cares), but a low yield tactical weapon wouldn't create enough fallout to be of a concern that far away.  The danger would be in the immediate area, and serious fallout would last only a matter of days (beyond ground zero).  A decent rainfall would knock most of it down, what's left by half life cycles dissipates pretty quickly.  

We tend to think of nuclear weapons release like Chernobyl, but that was entirely different, it was an open core just spewing radioactive isotopes for days on end (and really months).  This would be a completely different ball game (of course still not good).  

[Parliament 14,062]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-protests-us-over-american-journalists-kursk-2024-08-20/

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26,159]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

And yeah all of those drones sent at Moscow may have been shot down, but they are still using up precious Russian AD and forcing the Russians to being more AD out of Ukraine and the border areas.  

I wonder if the purpose of the drones on Moscow was to make the Russians blow up expensive air defense missiles and scare everybody? And if a drone hits a ground target, gravy.

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

6 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I wonder if the purpose of the drones on Moscow was to make the Russians blow up expensive air defense missiles and scare everybody? And if a drone hits a ground target, gravy.

I thought they were mostly using them to probe the defenses and see if there’s a breaking point for the air defenses near Moscow, and to check response times (which would help them determine where the AD is at or controlled from), but I’ve seen some pretty good theories about them using those attacks to force Moscow to move more and more AD away from Ukraine, in preparation for more close air support.

[AUS-97HORN 11,576]

21 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I thought they were mostly using them to probe the defenses and see if there’s a breaking point for the air defenses near Moscow, and to check response times (which would help them determine where the AD is at or controlled from), but I’ve seen some pretty good theories about them using those attacks to force Moscow to move more and more AD away from Ukraine, in preparation for more close air support.

what air defense doing?

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

4 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

what air defense doing?

Drinking vodka, checking out their new lada, thanking god they are in AD in Mosow and not in a trench or AD at the front.You know, normal Russian things.

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

2 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

well, not sure about prevailing winds, but even a low-radiation bomb in parts of Ukraine or Kursk is really close to a spread to Moscow.

We know that Russian troops are definitely not prepared for such a thing, and he wouldn’t use one outside of Russia, so it’s not much use to Putin.

[Steel Shank 9,363]

1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

I wonder if the purpose of the drones on Moscow was to make the Russians blow up expensive air defense missiles and scare everybody? And if a drone hits a ground target, gravy.

fuckin a

[Parliament 14,062]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Drinking vodka, checking out their new lada, thanking god they are in AD in Mosow and not in a trench or AD at the front.You know, normal Russian things.

And humping goats.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

3 minutes ago, Parliament said:

And humping goats.

Chechens are not russians. Haji Murad out front should have told ya.

[BamaATL 16,592]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

We know that Russian troops are definitely not prepared for such a thing, and he wouldn’t use one outside of Russia, so it’s not much use to Putin.

He's more apt to use chemical weapons than anything (I've seen the Ukrainians allege this multiple times, never seen anything verified).  Mistaking that Putin gives a shit about his own guys is a mistake though, if he did, he wouldn't have already gotten over 600k killed or seriously wounded.  The same could be said for his civilian population as well, he doesn't give a shit about anyone in some backwoods village in Kursk.  Hell, killing any of them potentially saves him $110.  

[KYHorn 16,751]

I'm sure the giant stacks of hay won't contribute to the problem. Let's hide behind there 

 

Edited August 23 by KYHorn

[KYHorn 16,751]

Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region took three more villages backed by visual evidence. 

Russkaya Konopel'ka, the village of Korenevo (not to be confused with the town Korenevo) and Krasnooktyabr'skoe are now under AFU control. With the last village it is now confirmed that Russians south of the Seym river can only withdraw crossing this river.

 

Everythings going well in Russia. Warning: graphic

 

 Aleksandr Khodakovsky of the Russian Vostok Battalion highlights the growing challenge of convincing Russian soldiers to participate in assaults. He points out that the high financial incentives used for recruitment have created a situation where soldiers are primarily focused on survival to enjoy the money they've earned. Unlike in Wagner, where the threat of a bullet loomed both ahead and behind, there are now almost no effective means of motivating soldiers.

Edited August 23 by KYHorn

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1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

I'm sure the giant stacks of hay won't contribute to the problem. Let's hide behind there 

 

I'm impressed they have the technical know-how to bale hay at all.

[KYHorn 16,751]

 

 

 

[KYHorn 16,751]

C'mon just send it across the bridge again. It'll be fine.

The Crimean Wind explains the situation with fuel delivery to Crimea after yesterday's strike on the Conro Trader ferry. According to their information, all three existing tankers are no longer operational, while fuel transportation across the bridge has not been carried out since previous strikes on the bridge.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

I have been expecting ISIS to do something. I expect more. That will scare Putin quite a bit. What does he have that he can respond with? Are the territories starting to collapse?

[Laxtonto 11,883]

1. Air Defenses in Crimea destroyed ✅

2. Fuel deliveries to Crimea stopped ✅

3. Water supplies limited due to blowing the dam over the Deniper ✅

4. ?

 

It is almost like they are checking all the boxes for the precursor for an invasion of Crimea.

My guess is that the next step is going to be all bridges from the Kherson Oblast to Crimea and then command and control centers up and down the banks of the Deniper. Then a blocking force out of Nikopol to keep the Melitpol forces occupied and a push from Kherson proper.

Control the skies to limit movement and allow better reconnaissance. Cut supplies to make it difficult to move and limit portable power generation, cut the basic necessities for the troops to degrade in effectiveness. That leaves, cutting off all possibility of resupply and limiting the avenues for reinforcement and retreat and then disrupt operational control in the theater and day to day decisions...

 

[BamaATL 16,592]

 

[JMFP 1,117]

At this point I would be tempted to not blow up the Kerch Bridge and march on to Georgia to claim the whole coast line and southern part of Russia all the way to the Caspian.

 

 

[Laxtonto 11,883]

15 minutes ago, JMFP said:

At this point I would be tempted to not blow up the Kerch Bridge and march on to Georgia to claim the whole coast line and southern part of Russia all the way to the Caspian.

 

 

If they can't transport oil or fuel across the Kerch bridge anymore, there is no point in blowing it up (by the way, this is a huge admission tactically by the Russian side). In truth, it might be more useful to force Russia to blow it up on the way out as one last humiliation.

It is always better to give the opponent a chance to pull out their troops knowing that the territory in Crimea is the real value in this war. Without fuel or ferries, most of the equipment cannot be pulled out. The troops would be a bonus, but in this day and age, large masses of men are pointless on a battlefield.

[Trey3216 15,314]

31 minutes ago, JMFP said:

At this point I would be tempted to not blow up the Kerch Bridge and march on to Georgia to claim the whole coast line and southern part of Russia all the way to the Caspian.

 

 

[AnTiM 1,645]

Seems I have heard Patton said he wanted to kick Russia's ass out of Germany while he had the men and equipment there to do it... and could make it look like their fault.  Those who do not study history...

[Chad Fuck 17,431]

3 hours ago, KYHorn said:

I'm sure the giant stacks of hay won't contribute to the problem. Let's hide behind there 

 

Those dudes are hiding from a tank farm fire by hiding under a railroad tanker car?  Mm kay.

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

1 hour ago, JMFP said:

At this point I would be tempted to not blow up the Kerch Bridge and march on to Georgia to claim the whole coast line and southern part of Russia all the way to the Caspian.

1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

If they can't transport oil or fuel across the Kerch bridge anymore, there is no point in blowing it up (by the way, this is a huge admission tactically by the Russian side). In truth, it might be more useful to force Russia to blow it up on the way out as one last humiliation.

It is always better to give the opponent a chance to pull out their troops knowing that the territory in Crimea is the real value in this war. Without fuel or ferries, most of the equipment cannot be pulled out. The troops would be a bonus, but in this day and age, large masses of men are pointless on a battlefield.

If they leave the main bridge but take out everything else, including ferries, the fleeing civilians and Russian military will jam up the Kerch bridge just fine and take it out of action.  And plenty of the civilians in Crimea are Russian military dependents as well.

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

 

[jdhorn92 1,535]

46 minutes ago, AnTiM said:

Seems I have heard Patton said he wanted to kick Russia's ass out of Germany while he had the men and equipment there to do it... and could make it look like their fault.  Those who do not study history...

Yes that is correct.  A war weary US populous and Patton's own hubris prevented that, on whole.  There were other factors, but the most notably Patton, as popular as he was with his own men, was equally disdained by the Brittish and basically forced into retirement.  That is one reason why his death was so eery.  Some believe it was a hit, I do not.  But he was not well liked and the command and control of that theatre was ready for him to go back to the states.

[Born to Run 6,417]

13 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

fuckin a

Kick some ass

[Born to Run 6,417]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

I'm impressed they have the technical know-how to bale hay at all.

They do have a fast train to Georgia.

[Chad Fuck 17,431]

8 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

They do have a fast train to Georgia.

They weren't born no yesterday. 

[Trey3216 15,314]

15 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

They do have a fast train to Georgia.

was it a midnight train?  

[MissingInAction 24,690]

17 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

A few years ago I did a deep dive on a friends recommendation into the Russian Revolution and DAMN they really have not changed. From the gallows to the gulags to their response to Chernobyl, their governments have given zero fucks and it has spread to the people. They are more Mongolian than European. Khan's troops fucked more than vikings I guess.

The chip they have on their shoulder is bigger than aggy's ego.

Were aggy a country it would be Russia.

Imagine collie station spanning across half of asia.

[B00M 6,233]

3 hours ago, KYHorn said:

 

 

 

With Modi trying to play both sides, making him think about the innocent Ukrainian children killed by the Russian Terrorist state he continues to fund is a great strategy. We’re either going to discover Modi is just as inhumane as Putin, or he’ll suddenly oppose buying cheap resources from Russia. I realize it’s not that simple, as Modi ultimately has to act in the best interest of India and they’re competing with China, but sometimes doing the right thing ends up being in your country’s best interest

[MissingInAction 24,690]

14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

We know that Russian troops are definitely not prepared for such a thing, and he wouldn’t use one outside of Russia, so it’s not much use to Putin.

Id love to see the Russian version of MOPPS gear.

EL oh fucking el.

Edited August 23 by MissingInAction
Mop my ass

[atomheartbevo 89,287]

6 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Id love to see the Russian version of MOPPS gear.

EL oh fucking el.

I hated what we had in the early 90s, but I can only imagine that it’s light years ahead of anything the Russians have in 2024.

And you know that some Russian grifters have had their way with Russian stockpiles so the filters are probably all missing or something.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I hated what we had in the early 90s, but I can only imagine that it’s light years ahead of anything the Russians have in 2024.

And you know that some Russian grifters have had their way with Russian stockpiles so the filters are probably all missing or something.

Yep, those sucked.

Russian gear? Nah, all being sold on the internet. In case anyone still thinking about Halloween. Looking at you @MissingInAction

 

https://www.amazon.com/Amoreshop-russian-Military-Clothing-Costume/dp/B094MWCGQ7/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1B0QVQHLTGCYM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CD0dPJVAmIs_O1WzqvvePCyFqNtGpGskHNDKceANLX1_IlDd6YuftwLQEhgHViu1hojSYXXcoGSqMk0A6M09XLaw46MrOQ-N2lbVVKVAdK4cA6ldcEKYjNlQL9SesHrgXfTKtrTCz20xH8yNNyDHXgfkMqddImHIhQ-HY7GkBEF-bay4yKJicHiZ48mUQ-aO4L6bSa38BDL3KYjJ0YMFFiEm1Wea5lKq03SOozXN9bIPHKnMHK5jQG97PfJUg1JkqrOx0vA32ERAHg3yoKsV-_UaNRpvcnJYGpfK8aNVMKM.lH1DmVbxwkrc62LIfH373yGehjLxlAhseD5pHDoQ8NU&dib_tag=se&keywords=russian+gas+mask&qid=1724428367&sprefix=Russian+gas+ma%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-5

[MissingInAction 24,690]

That some WWI shit right there.

At least my bullshit had a drinking tube.

[InkaUtexas 25,170]

Just now, MissingInAction said:

That some WWI shit right there.

At least my bullshit had a drinking tube.

Yeah, but russians do not use those. See, the vodka (or engine lubricant) they are drinking fucks up the seals.

[Pato del Muerto 52,184]

 

I don’t think this is the first time I’ve thought of Putin as longshanks. 

Edited August 23 by Pato del Muerto

[RPM 26,147]

10 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Those dudes are hiding from a tank farm fire by hiding under a railroad tanker car?  Mm kay.

To be fair, the train was the fire engine.

Edited August 24 by RPM