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[KYHorn 17014]

Seems like Russia is counter attacking in Kursk 

 Video of an armored column with at least 8 tanks and armored vehicles from the Russian VDV's 51st Airborne Regiment assaulting Snagost in Kursk oblast. It appears Russia was able to get the armored force across the Seym River, despite Ukrainian strikes on the bridges. @Deepstate_UA says the situation has worsened on Ukraine's left flank in Kursk oblast. 

[InkaUtexas 25862]

6 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Seems like Russia is counter attacking in Kursk 

 Video of an armored column with at least 8 tanks and armored vehicles from the Russian VDV's 51st Airborne Regiment assaulting Snagost in Kursk oblast. It appears Russia was able to get the armored force across the Seym River, despite Ukrainian strikes on the bridges. @Deepstate_UA says the situation has worsened on Ukraine's left flank in Kursk oblast. 

Well it sure as hell is not what they brought in 1943.

[KYHorn 17014]

The White House has submitted a secret report to Congress outlining the strategy for the war in Ukraine. This follows a requirement set in a $61 billion aid package passed in April, with a deadline for June. The report was sent to lawmakers on September 9, but they have not yet had the opportunity to review it.
 

 

Edited September 11 by KYHorn

[InkaUtexas 25862]

14 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

The White House has submitted a secret report to Congress outlining the strategy for the war in Ukraine. This follows a requirement set in a $61 billion aid package passed in April, with a deadline for June. The report was sent to lawmakers on September 9, but they have not yet had the opportunity to review it.
 

 

Might be something they want to read. How soon until it is leaked to the media?

[atomheartbevo 89628]

edit: beaten

 

Edited September 11 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89628]

I met with @U24_gov_ua Ambassador and historian @TimothyDSnyder, where we had an important conversation about Ukraine.

We appreciate Timothy Snyder’s work on the UNITED24 platform, his fundraising efforts for Ukraine, and his support for our struggle.

This is a record-breaking fundraiser and a very important help in the defense of our state and people. I am grateful for his educational work and for spreading knowledge about Ukraine’s history.

 

[Deej 76755]

7 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Might be something they want to read. How soon until it is leaked to the media?

C'mon, Congress isn't paid to read. 

[InkaUtexas 25862]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

C'mon, Congress isn't paid to read. 

CRS is and they summarize quite well.

And I don't think all Congress = ex-NCAA football coaches.

[BamaATL 16593]

 

Apparently, these same guys destroyed a cell tower earlier in the week for 30k of rubles.  Honestly, with Russia employing a predominantly mercenary army, this may be one of the most cost effective ways to put this to an end, start covertly paying them to destroy any and all equipment.  

[Chopper 17230]

Planes dropping out of the sky

[Bevo 13566]

11 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Might be something they want to read. How soon until it is leaked to the media?

 

In fairness, it is probably bullshit. If the strategy is to bleed Russia, that isn't what the report will say. It will be the most politically expedient response.

[PTINS 3463]

On 9/6/2024 at 9:47 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Maybe @PTINS gets to see more stuff burn.

This doesn't make much sense for a railroad depot unless it had a helluva lot of fuel right at the depot (it seemed like they kept the tanks away), or there was ammo being loaded.

Or they hit the oil depot near the railroad.

 

According to Google maps, it's either a "Bicycle repair shop" with a 5* rating, or a "Packaging supply store."  Must be some high-end bicycles, surrounded by a concrete wall topped with concertina razor wire.

The tanks are behind the building, look to be fuel for the facility. No facilities for truck loading/unloading and no rail directly to the facility.

Definitely flammable.

 

Been offline for a while, more pressing things to deal with ...

 

[atomheartbevo 89628]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Planes dropping out of the sky

 

 

[KYHorn 17014]

Sounds like the counterattacks were successful. Some are saying Ukraine had not set up sufficient defensive positions. 

 

 

 Worth noting:

 

 

 

Edited September 11 by KYHorn

[KYHorn 17014]

 

 

 

Edited September 11 by KYHorn

[Parliament 14243]

Fuck

ETA

Regards the Russian counterattack.

Edited September 11 by Parliament

[atomheartbevo 89628]

UAVs are attacking Murmansk?

You know what's in Murmansk?

[InkaUtexas 25862]

Secretary Antony J. Blinken at 4th Crimea Platform

Remarks

 

 

September 11, 2024

 

In Kyiv today.  Bold is mine. This is what worries Eastern Europe. They have seen this shit before.

 

SECRETARY BLINKEN:  Thank you very much.  Mr. President, it’s so good to see you; colleagues, leaders, fellow ministers. 

Crimea teaches us a lot.  Crimea shows the future Putin seeks for all of Ukraine.  Crimea shows Ukrainian resilience, and what drives it.  And Crimea shows what we partners of Ukraine – and nations committed to defending international rules and rights – what we must do to respond to Russia’s relentless war of aggression. 

Crimea is a reminder that Putin didn’t launch his invasion in February 2022 – but over a decade ago, in February 2014.  At the time, some argued that if only Ukraine were to hand over Crimea, Putin would be satisfied, and the threat of Russian aggression would subside.

Putin’s aggression since that time have punctured that myth – demonstrating that he will never be sated with just part of Ukraine.  He wants all of it.  He’s said so openly; he’s said he wants to reconstitute Russia’s empire, end Ukraine’s very existence.  And here, we should take Mr. Putin at his word.  Like autocrats before him who believed they had the right to withdraw borders by force, Putin’s appetite grows as he eats.

Crimea is also an alarming illustration of how Russia governs the territory that it seizes.  In Crimea, Russian occupiers have eradicated the free and independent press.  They have arbitrarily detained, tortured, disappeared human rights defenders, journalists, and other civil society activists who dare to document Russia’s abuses or criticize its purported annexation.

They have repressed non-Russian culture, language, religion – including that of Crimean Tatars – and destroyed non-Russian cultural heritage sites.  They have repeatedly held sham elections at gunpoint.  They forcibly transferred children and compelled them to participate in Russian re-education programs.

Crimea is not an isolated case – it’s a blueprint.  This is how Russia governs every part of Ukraine that it occupies.  And it’s what we can expect Putin would do whenever and wherever he seizes Ukrainian territory.

This in turn is a big part of the reason why Ukrainians fight.  They know the world that awaits them if Putin were to succeed in absorbing Ukraine into Russia.

But the story of Crimea is not just the story of what Russia has done.  Crimea is also the story of Ukrainian tenacity, ingenuity, perseverance.  Since Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukraine has sunk or damaged nearly a third of Russia’s fleet, pushing Russia back from the Black Sea – feats that Ukraine achieved without a fleet of their own.  Ukraine has reopened a maritime corridor, once again allowing its grain to feed the world.  And now, with long-range missiles supplied by its partners, Ukraine is effectively targeting Russian military assets in Crimea.

Finally, Crimea is about much more than what Ukrainians are fighting against.  Crimea is about what Ukrainians are fighting for.

In Crimea – and in all of Ukraine – Ukrainians fight for the inalienable right of people to choose their own future, and to have their human rights respected.  They fight for the right of nations to have their sovereignty, their territorial integrity, their independence respected – principles at the very heart of the United Nations Charter.

And when the United States and so many other partners stand with Ukraine, we not only help affirm those rights for Ukrainians, we help affirm them for all nations – and for all people.

That’s why we are proud to join Ukraine in reaffirming, today and every day:  Crimea is Ukraine.

Thank you.

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

UAVs are attacking Murmansk?

You know what's in Murmansk?

Meh, don't waste drones on it. Let it go to sea and it will sink on its own.

[atomheartbevo 89628]

The media has decided to introduce Margarita Simonyan, Surly's favorite RILF, to the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/meet-margarita-simonyan-queen-of-russia-s-covert-information-wars/ar-AA1qonSo

TLDR; She's proud of being sanctioned, proud of spreading propaganda.

[atomheartbevo 89628]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Meh, don't waste drones on it. Let it go to sea and it will sink on its own.

Admit it, it would be fucking hilarious if they managed to hit it.

[InkaUtexas 25862]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Admit it, it would be fucking hilarious if they managed to hit it.

Cooler if it just sunk at its mooring. Sits there for years reminding Russians their navy has always sucked. 

And with Putin on board.

[Parliament 14243]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

Meh, don't waste drones on it. Let it sit in dry dock and it will sink on its own.

1234

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Admit it, it would be fucking hilarious if they managed to hit it.

Like just one.  Leave one charred spot on the deck and make them move the thing.

[InkaUtexas 25862]

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

1234

Like just one.  Leave one charred spot on the deck and make them move the thing.

If they are going to do that then go after the creme de la creme of the soviet (yeah I said it) fleet. Drones fly up the SSBN tunnels and do their thing. Putin does not have the convict labor the Soviets did to fix them.

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

7 minutes ago, Parliament said:

1234

Like just one.  Leave one charred spot on the deck and make them move the thing.

Russian Narrator: We can’t move the thing because it is not capable of moving.  It does retain its awesome tactical strategic role as a small, stationary airport for fighter jets, however.

[InkaUtexas 25862]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

The media has decided to introduce Margarita Simonyan, Surly's favorite RILF, to the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/meet-margarita-simonyan-queen-of-russia-s-covert-information-wars/ar-AA1qonSo

TLDR; She's proud of being sanctioned, proud of spreading propaganda.

She will look great in the next Nuremberg.

[KYHorn 17014]

 

 Russian Telegram channels posted a video showing a long traffic jam of fuel vans on the Moscow Ring Road. Reportedly, the video was taken at 6 a.m. today near the turn to the Moscow oil refinery in the Kapotnya district. On September 1, there was a fire there after a drone attack. In the comments, it was assumed that fuel is being removed from the refinery after the drone attack.

 

EDIT: Correction to earlier tweet:

 

Today in Kyiv, @SecBlinken said he'll take back what #Ukraine's told them they need (including long-range missile use) to president Biden - adding UK PM Kier Starmer (not president Zelensky as some have reported) will meet with Biden in 2 days time to discuss this issue further. Blinken also announced $325 million in aid for Ukraine's energy & electric grid. $290 million for humanitarian aid & $102 million for demining. Made it clear the U.S. "wants Ukraine to win and is fully committed to Ukraine's victory." 

Edited September 11 by KYHorn

[Armybrat 40822]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The media has decided to introduce Margarita Simonyan, Surly's favorite RILF, to the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/meet-margarita-simonyan-queen-of-russia-s-covert-information-wars/ar-AA1qonSo

TLDR; She's proud of being sanctioned, proud of spreading propaganda.

Tucker fucker?

[KYHorn 17014]

 

 

[B00M 6414]

1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

 

 

That seems interesting given their recent romance with BRICS. 

[Chopper 17230]

Shocking this didn't already happen. 

[Bevo Num1 1011]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The media has decided to introduce Margarita Simonyan, Surly's favorite RILF, to the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/meet-margarita-simonyan-queen-of-russia-s-covert-information-wars/ar-AA1qonSo

TLDR; She's proud of being sanctioned, proud of spreading propaganda.

She always looks greasy to me and lol @ "beaver eater". Totally expected something else with that nickname. 

[Sawbonz 27538]

9 hours ago, BamaATL said:

 

Apparently, these same guys destroyed a cell tower earlier in the week for 30k of rubles.  Honestly, with Russia employing a predominantly mercenary army, this may be one of the most cost effective ways to put this to an end, start covertly paying them to destroy any and all equipment.  

[Chopper 17230]

I dunno why but this song just came to mind.

Dearly beloved
We are gathered here today
To get through this thing called "life"
Electric word, life
It means forever, and that's a mighty long time
But I'm here to tell you there's something else:
The afterworld
A world of never ending happiness
You can always see the sun, day or night
So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills
You know the one, Dr. Everything'll-Be-All-Right
Instead of asking him how much of your time is left
Ask him how much of your mind, babe
'Cause in this life
Things are much harder than in the afterworld
In this life
You're on your own
And if de-elevator tries to bring you down
Go crazy (Punch a higher floor)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/11/blinken-hints-us-will-lift-restrictions-on-ukraine-using-long-range-arms-in-russia

other bits from the article as confirmation

 

 

Edited September 11 by Chopper

[B00M 6414]

Are our journalists just running articles claiming we’re agreeing to let Ukraine fire nato supplied arms deep into RUSSIA in order to influence policy or do we really need like a thousand headlines on it before we’re convinced we’re not getting nuked? I mean, on the one hand, I appreciate the Biden admin handling this situation with kid gloves. On the other hand, that small dicked tater isn’t using nukes so… I don’t get it 

Edited September 12 by B00M
Biden moment

[0xdeadbeef 1645]

17 minutes ago, B00M said:

Are our journalists just running articles claiming we’re agreeing to let Ukraine fire nato supplied arms deep into Ukraine in order to influence policy or do we really need like a thousand headlines on it before we’re convinced we’re not getting nuked? I mean, on the one hand, I appreciate the Biden admin handling this situation with kid gloves. On the other hand, that small dicked tater isn’t using nukes so… I don’t get it 

That's just it, he's not going to use nukes right up untill he does. I have no idea what goes on in the mind of a dictator, but at some point if he's losing, does he just say fuck it, you're all going down with me? 

It's easy to say I would be far more aggressive in giving Ukraine arms and the go ahead to use them, but on the other hand I don't get Intel reports and assessments on the likelihood of a nuclear strike.   

The US approach seems to be to boil the frog slowly.

[Bevo 13566]

10 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

That's just it, he's not going to use nukes right up untill he does. I have no idea what goes on in the mind of a dictator, but at some point if he's losing, does he just say fuck it, you're all going down with me? 

It's easy to say I would be far more aggressive in giving Ukraine arms and the go ahead to use them, but on the other hand I don't get Intel reports and assessments on the likelihood of a nuclear strike.   

The US approach seems to be to boil the frog slowly.

 

Micromanaged by US political advisors whose goal is to de-escalate tensions, end Russian aggression, maintain oil and gas prices, and keep Russia from descending into civil war.

[Steel Shank 9421]

On 9/10/2024 at 9:38 AM, Nivek said:

 I do not derive my morality from external sources and I need no fear of eternal punishment to act as guardrails.

This is excellent. Will use, thank you very much.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

re; Telegram

 

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

On 9/10/2024 at 6:42 PM, InkaUtexas said:

Well it sure as hell is not what they brought in 1943.

How many rifles and tanks do you suppose will have seen both fights by the time this one is done?

[InkaUtexas 25862]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many rifles and tanks do you suppose will have seen both fights by the time this one is done?

350.

[TeeDubya 3362]

13 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How many rifles and tanks do you suppose will have seen both fights by the time this one is done?

scores of artillery pieces apparently.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

re; Telegram

 

Quote

Today we're looking at the importance of Telegram. No, we're not talking about the thing a telegraph sends. We're talking about the messaging platform created by Pavel Durov that's causing quite the stir as of late.

 

Telegram has become the platform of choice for many of the world's most unsavory characters - think the Russian military and ISIS. Telegram and its founder opted to not cooperate with Western governments and resisted any form of data sharing with authorities. This was the case, until founder Pavel Durov was recently arrested and promptly released in France.

 

Now, if I was someone who knew I was wanted in a number of countries, I would probably avoid visiting said countries. I would imagine Durov would do the same. So, I suspect that this was all part of some elaborate deal that Durov and the French authorities cut. If that's the case, there could be some major implications.

 

Remember how I mentioned that Telegram was the choice platform for unsavory characters. Well, if Western governments can get their hands on these messages, logs and information, that would be a huge intelligence breakthrough that the Russians would love to avoid...

 

[atomheartbevo 89628]

13 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

That's just it, he's not going to use nukes right up untill he does. I have no idea what goes on in the mind of a dictator, but at some point if he's losing, does he just say fuck it, you're all going down with me? 

It's easy to say I would be far more aggressive in giving Ukraine arms and the go ahead to use them, but on the other hand I don't get Intel reports and assessments on the likelihood of a nuclear strike.   

I don't think he would, for a lot of reasons, including that he's afraid of being killed (witness his 20 foot-long tables to prevent COVID/assassination attempts, using his security detail as pretend factory workers for photo ops, having a tight inner-circle, his KGB background, his use of doubles etc.).

But most of all, he's somewhat of a control freak, and using a nuke kicks off a lot of variables that are out of his control. He counted on the West being passive, and he was quite wrong and it's cost him dearly, to the point where Ukraine is not only still kicking 30 months into the main invasion with plenty of Western weapons, but is now hitting places inside of Moscow proper.

Putin was in the KGB in East Germany when Chernobyl happened, and he knows full well how pissed off the West was over the would-be cover-up. He maybe in a bubble of sorts, but he has seen what sanctions are doing to his economy, he knows Kursk was invaded, knows Moscow was hit (and has publicly admitted to both). He knows China isn't willing to send him serious military hardware because of the sanctions. And China has already warned not to use nukes.

Throwing a nuke into the mix - on a tactical level, if it's on the battlefield, it'll kill just as many Russian soldiers, and probably more given the Ukrainians have access to better equipment (and while he may not give a shit about his soldiers, he doesn't have as many as he needs), and it's liable to cause the Ukrainians to move their troops up close to the Russians, daring him to kill a shitload of his own folks. He obviously can't use it in Kursk.  He can't use it in Crimea because it'll kill/poison a fuckload of Russian civilians, and because he claims Crimea = Russia, and nuking Russia is not a good look for him.

A battlefield nuke will most likely cause China and India to completely cut ties, and Iran probably won't want to be tied to that albatross, because even a battlefield nuke means the West (and its allies in Asia) are going to come down even harder on anybody still doing business with Russia, to the point of applying the same sanctions to them as are being applied to Russia. China has already been scaling back its financial/trade transactions over fears the US will sanction Chinese banks. China's economy would implode if they got hit with similar sanctions to Russia, and the Chinese government probably can't survive hundreds of millions of Chinese out of work and in the streets (history says governments don't survive that kind of stuff). Even a battlefield nuke is probably going to send some fallout to places that Putin doesn't control, and it's hard to say what would be worse - fallout heading into Russia (which would flip the Russian population out) or out into the Black Sea or Western Europe. 

Hitting a city full of civilians would be even worse. Everybody even doing a few bucks in trade with Russia will be sanctioned and cut off from the rest of the world (complete with blockades/embargos), and shit will probably happen in the UN which Russia won't like - even with its veto power, it can't stop a large group of nations independently working together against it.

The fallout is going to go somewhere. If it drifts over Western Europe, hello Article 5 and at bare minimum NATO taking over the airspace over Ukraine. If that shit drifts over Turkey, you can bet that they'll consider it an attack (as will NATO) and will open up the Straits to any and all Western ships and subs. 

Most of all, and the TLDR: If he drops a nuke, he becomes a dead man walking, because it would do the opposite of what he wants - rather than making everybody back down, everybody will assume he will do it again, and operation KILL VLADIMIR PUTIN will be in full effect.

TLDR #2: If he was going to do it, he would have done it long before things got to this point. If he thought he could get away with it, he would have already done it - maybe Odessa, or maybe around Kharkiv.

[C-Man 27187]

On 9/11/2024 at 10:03 AM, atomheartbevo said:

The media has decided to introduce Margarita Simonyan, Surly's favorite RILF, to the world.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/meet-margarita-simonyan-queen-of-russia-s-covert-information-wars/ar-AA1qonSo

TLDR; She's proud of being sanctioned, proud of spreading propaganda.

Woof.

[Armybrat 40822]

Wearing a cross too. 
She won’t get her allotment of 72 virgins.

[Trey3216 15345]

29 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Woof.

 

[atomheartbevo 89628]

[Apep 645]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

He obviously can't use it in Kursk.  He can't use it in Crimea because it'll kill/poison a fuckload of Russian civilians, and because he claims Crimea = Russia, and nuking Russia is not a good look for him.

You sure? The Russkies would love him nuking Kursk. That’s in the grandest scorched-earth Russian tradition. 

[InkaUtexas 25862]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

All you man. Those fuckers are toxic.

[Trey3216 15345]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

All you man. Those fuckers are toxic.

I bet she has Oscar Mayer bologna nipples.  Hard Pass