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27 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

I’ve done some work on our large Red River ammo depot (which most are decommissioned or extremely old ordnance) and knowing how those facilities are designed, I am at a loss on how the facility can keep having secondary detonations that are leapfrogging the entire facility.

If they use any form of compartmentalization approach then storage of ordnance should be contained and this wide spread multiple explosions should not really be happening.

The most obvious point here is this level of destruction is not possible due to just a shot down UAV.

Next, either this is a complete design flaw (which is unlikely) of the facility or the Russians got caught with multiple storage doors open at once. This either implies that the Ukraine UAVs hit them when they knew large transfers of munitions would be happening, the Russians violated the most basic sets of ordnance storage mantras by essentially having multiple blast doors for several ordnance bunkers open at once, or the storage plan for these cruise missiles are as such that they are trading safety and secondary blast protection for convenience of access.

This is more than likely an act of hubris by the Russians thinking them being so far into the interior nothing could reach them. 

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Also, the fact that this is the storage for much of their cruise missile production is a huge deal. Without those limited stocks of their more modern munitions any attack on the Ukrainian interior will require using much less sophisticated armaments and there mean the launch point will have to be much closer to the front. Needless to say, that is a huge problem for Russia from both a tactical and logistical standpoint.

 

Russia has also been transfering loads of troops into the area in advance of a counter-offensive. I wonder if the ammo dump was over-filled in anticipation of their operations

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58 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or a combination of everything - also toss in corruption at some point had to mean some shortcuts were taken, even if they weren't obvious.  Maybe things were too close together or walls were thinner than they should have been.

I would bet that the Ukrainians know when transfers out to air bases are happening, or shipments from factories or other countries are coming in.

That was one helluva hit though, and doesn't seem like their normal UAVs.

Could it be their domestically produced large ballistic missiles?  Ukraine confirmed that they had tested them just under a month ago:

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/28/nx-s1-5090919/ukraine-has-successfully-tested-ballistic-missiles-that-were-made-in-ukraine

Seems likely

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Looks pretty light out for 4:43 AM. 

That's just when the biggest explosions occurred. From the top right picture below, there seems to be daylight during some of the cooking off. Could also be multiple rounds of drones?

8 hours ago, KYHorn said:

There are reports that Grad, S-300 and S-400 missiles, ballistic Iskander missiles and a small stash of North Korean missiles were stored at the ammunitions warehouse in Toropets, Tver region of Russia.

NASA FIRMS shows fires on almost the whole territory of the 107th Russian arsenal.

Video above for those without Twitter

Big big booms

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Russia has also been transfering loads of troops into the area in advance of a counter-offensive. I wonder if the ammo dump was over-filled in anticipation of their operations

Not sure if I agree with your police work there, Lou

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2 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

I’ve done some work on our large Red River ammo depot (which most are decommissioned or extremely old ordnance) and knowing how those facilities are designed, I am at a loss on how the facility can keep having secondary detonations that are leapfrogging the entire facility.

If they use any form of compartmentalization approach then storage of ordnance should be contained and this wide spread multiple explosions should not really be happening.

The most obvious point here is this level of destruction is not possible due to just a shot down UAV.

Next, either this is a complete design flaw (which is unlikely) of the facility or the Russians got caught with multiple storage doors open at once. This either implies that the Ukraine UAVs hit them when they knew large transfers of munitions would be happening, the Russians violated the most basic sets of ordnance storage mantras by essentially having multiple blast doors for several ordnance bunkers open at once, or the storage plan for these cruise missiles are as such that they are trading safety and secondary blast protection for convenience of access.

This is more than likely an act of hubris by the Russians thinking them being so far into the interior nothing could reach them. 

shame.gif.dbc3f2cf9fcc3799c4cbbbbcbea0f3aa.gif

Also, the fact that this is the storage for much of their cruise missile production is a huge deal. Without those limited stocks of their more modern munitions any attack on the Ukrainian interior will require using much less sophisticated armaments and there mean the launch point will have to be much closer to the front. Needless to say, that is a huge problem for Russia from both a tactical and logistical standpoint.

 

It's also possible that they were not using the facility as designed - storing more kilotons in each compartment than what the isolation was rated for, storing ammo outside of the hardened areas, etc..  I assume when Russia designed their logistics, it wasn't with the idea that facilities within 50 miles of the Ukrainian border would be high risk, or significantly higher risk than storage north of Moscow.  So, they may not have as many "safe" locations for the amount of ammo/weapons they are currently moving.  Now their calculation has to change again.     

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6 hours ago, KYHorn said:

 AZOV FIGHTERS WALK RIGHT UP TO THE RUSSIAN TRENCHES AND TAKE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS PRISONERS >>

Azov fighters walked right up to the russian trenches, pretending to be russian intelligence officers.

After abusing the russian soldiers for some time for how messy their trench was, and engaging in other small talk...
      ...the Azov soldiers fired a few shots into the air and informed the russians that they were now prisoners of Ukraine.

 

 "We almost shot you. We thought you were ukrops [Ukrainians]." A brilliant operation recorded by the camera of one of the soldiers of the 12th Azov Brigade, during which the our Warriors pretended to be Airborne Forces reconnaissance and went to the Russian positions. The finale is worthy of an Oscar!

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1 hour ago, Gravy Train said:

 

Somebody on the X thread pointed out that there are approximately 20 airfields within the same proximity to the ammo dump that was hit.

If that is true, Russia will not only have to launch missiles closer to Ukraine, but they will have to use aircraft they moved further east, requiring it to fly farther, putting more hours on the wonderfully maintained Jets - and sucking up more jet fuel.  

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

It's also possible that they were not using the facility as designed - storing more kilotons in each compartment than what the isolation was rated for, storing ammo outside of the hardened areas, etc..  I assume when Russia designed their logistics, it wasn't with the idea that facilities within 50 miles of the Ukrainian border would be high risk, or significantly higher risk than storage north of Moscow.  So, they may not have as many "safe" locations for the amount of ammo/weapons they are currently moving.  Now their calculation has to change again.     

Or Russians continue to at like the inbred, drunk, dumbfucks they are born to be.

40 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

The fly strips really hold the room together.

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https://www.threads.net/@meidas_lauren/post/DACF9nTTxys?xmt=AQGzJbrYKm4EyTl_eNchFxm75Kz1CLhH00Z1z8h6sPYLXg

Elon is spreading Russian propaganda again!
Billionaire Elon Musk Shared Memes Made by FSB Propaganda Machine

 

^No surprise, makes me wonder how he got them though.

 

https://www.threads.net/@noelreports/post/DADjz4EtZRy?xmt=AQGzJbrYKm4EyTl_eNchFxm75Kz1CLhH00Z1z8h6sPYLXg

The 225th Assault Battalion released footage showing their breach of the border with Russia toward Glushkovo several days ago.
 

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https://apnews.com/article/russia-disinformation-foreign-influence-election-microsoft-7f802f9f4a0efe206fdaad29516b1f7f

Politics
Russia goes all-out with covert disinformation aimed at Harris, Microsoft report says

 

^No Cloakroom, so I won't post the whole thing, but you can check the link. 

 

https://www.threads.net/@kyivindependent_official/post/DAEWEIfoXaj?xmt=AQGzve7X1A9Rv0y_sPI_M6UtlAgrr55oaXXKVT4uNOdkgA

️ Ukraine's French Mirage jets will be able to hit ground targets, media reports.
French President Emmanuel Macron announced on June 6 that an unspecified number would be transferred to Ukraine, but did not provide a timeline.

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56 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

There's a lot to notice in that picture. Some kind of reflective covering on the ceiling... Sacha Baron Cohen Thumbs Up GIF by Amazon Prime Video

Also, decorative bird between fly tape streamers. 

I'm particularly fond of the front yard walkway light as a wall lamp.  

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23 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

In Russia, kitchen is also bedroom...

Mirrors on the ceiling, and just slightly out of the picture is the "pink champagne on ice." The strike is just a "visitor here, of its own devise."

CHIEF

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5 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

You think it's not also a Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?

I assume he believes Brisket is likely deeply committed to Taco Tuesday ...but you're not wrong.

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 It may not have made major headlines, but it has certainly rattled Russian troops. The commander of the assault unit of the 110th Brigade, known by his nickname "Beliy," was arrested. The terrorist is regarded as a highly competent and successful commander, with notable participation in the battle for Avdiivka. A native "Donetsk miner", Beliy has been fighting against Ukraine since 2014. The case stems from Bely reportedly cracking down on drug dealers who were distributing narcotics to the fighters. The conflict was allegedly provoked by the "bearded dealers" [Akhmat], but despite his reputation, the high command has not come to Bely’s defense. Several prominent war correspondents now claim the unit was unjustly beheaded, leading them to scale back their own operations in protest. They're now begging Belousov to help him out.

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The Russian town, Toropets, that is now the scene of an munitions depot explosion that could be seen from space this morning just had it’s Municipal District’s website changed to feature a photo of Ukraine’s Intel Chief, Kyrylo Budanov.
LMAO

 

https://www.threads.net/@stop_the_prop/post/DAB4s6Uue-9?xmt=AQGzmqpf-91xuaCzGBG1vaupqs_X_nMNiQcFjQHv4V3KGw

Excellent article from VSquare Project. A must read for all those concerned about russian interference in global elections.
LEAKED FILES FROM PUTIN’S TROLL FACTORY: HOW RUSSIA MANIPULATED EUROPEAN ELECTIONS: vsquare.org/leake…

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also cause I'm like, bored and shit...

 

this googlez:

Toropets, Tver region sunrise Sept 18, 2024

 

tells me 6:31am.   even with the early morning light before sunrise, thats not more than 40 mins before then.   so either that video is of another strike...  or they struck more than once... which would maybe allow why we are seeing so much light out?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

also cause I'm like, bored and shit...

 

this googlez:

Toropets, Tver region sunrise Sept 18, 2024

 

tells me 6:31am.   even with the early morning light before sunrise, thats not more than 40 mins before then.   so either that video is of another strike...  or they struck more than once... which would maybe allow why we are seeing so much light out?

 

 

Yes, or if that video is actually the first strike, it would presumably be close to sunset, and these are ongoing detonations that we're seeing from the initial strike.

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or a combination of everything - also toss in corruption at some point had to mean some shortcuts were taken, even if they weren't obvious.  Maybe things were too close together or walls were thinner than they should have been.

Someone else pointed out this RT blurb back in 2018:

oropets /Tver region/, June 2. /TASS/. The arsenal of complex storage of missiles, ammunition and explosives constructed in the city of Toropets of the Tver region meets the highest international standards. This was stated on Saturday to journalists by Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Dmitry Bulgakov, who is on a working trip to the troops of the Western Military District to check the progress of construction of military infrastructure.


“Arsenal allows to hide stockpiles of missiles and ammunition from external influence and ensure their safety and fire safety. The full load of each storage of the arsenal is up to 240 tons, ”said the deputy head of the military department.

 

That is the same General Dmitry Bulgakov who was arrested and imprisoned in 2022 due to corruption charges...

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49 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Comrade, that’s the kind of questioning gets you thrown out of a window. But nice to see that question on Russian TV for the masses to think that question too.

Given that a lot (or most) of the stuff we see on those evening Russian TV shows was scripted by Margarita in some fashion and that she reports to Putin, if he's asking that openly, and that train of thought starts popping up in more and more of the shows, it maybe Putin trying to back out. Edit: or at least prepping the Russian people for some kind of cease fire that sees them giving up most/all of what they had taken going back to 2014.  Given the missile strike we just saw on the ammo dump, how long before the Kerch bridge goes offline for good?

Just in the last week, we've already seen the show hosts positing that Russia was never going to get in a nuclear war with NATO over NATO weapons, as if they are trying to reassure the people (or the West).

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