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[The Ace of Aces 5378]

3 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

They’ll help pay.  Some of them at the least. They will always have plausible deniability.  It’s like you don’t know how the mob and strong men work…

I know how Russia works. It’ll be generals or more likely security services. 

[Wally Pryor 5413]

Forest for the trees...Why is Russia struggling? Poor planning? Overrated military? Ukranians dug in beyond expectations? All of the above?

[BabaYaga 15632]

Just now, Skipper said:

JFC @ Rubio's latest tweet.   Not sure I understand the strategy but that's the kind of shit that might start a panic here.  And considering these tweets are presumably all authorized it's fucking concerning.

No fucking shit.  

What is his purpose? To scare Americans?  

He has succeeded as far as I am concerned.  A repeat of 1962?

I don't understand what he is trying to accomplish by continuing to say that Putin may well launch nukes on us.

[ChiTownDoc 21356]

1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

36 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

 

Neat

No.  Just a couple cubes of ice.  

Edited February 28, 2022 by ChiTownDoc

[Telegraph_it 3386]

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

JFC @ Rubio's latest tweet.   Not sure I understand the strategy but that's the kind of shit that might start a panic here.  And considering these tweets are presumably all authorized it's fucking concerning.

[staboner 5098]

20 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

We may need some of your feel good ‘thankfully no nukes’ posts.  

i can promise you i am always on it my man

[rpspeed 1495]

nm4321

Edited February 28, 2022 by rpspeed

[pops 7160]

Putin might be 100 percent at going for nukes. But he isn't right in the head. He can't launch them himself. As fucking horrible as social media is,  it's allowing the truth to sneak into Russia. 

I dont see anyone pushing the button knowing he just killed himself and all his loved ones. Not for that deranged fuck. 

Now a tactical nuke in Ukraine?  Maybe. Which is horrible and ensures the end of Russia as it presently exists. But the icbms and hypersonics are not getting their fuse lit. 

[Wulaw Horn 19599]

14 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yep.  You’re always the Boss, until…you aren’t.  

This is what I was saying yesterday and the consensus was I was wrong. 
just like we severely overestimated Russias ability to fight, I think many are overestimating Putins grip on power. 

[staboner 5098]

i am not liking these rubio tweets at fucking all

[ChiTownDoc 21356]

1 minute ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I know how Russia works. It’ll be generals or more likely security services. 

For sure.  I don’t see Roman A. picking up a gun.  Just saying whoever does it will definitely have a head nod from at least a few oligarchs.  

[Keef 892]

For what its worth, I don't read Rubio's tweets as suggesting he thinks Putin will nuke the US.  I think he's saying (based on earlier tweets) that Russia may use tactical nukes in Ukraine, which would obviously be a crazy escalation.

[ChiTownDoc 21356]

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

This is what I was saying yesterday and the consensus was I was wrong. 
just like we severely overestimated Russias ability to fight, I think many are overestimating Putins grip on power. 

Remember only a few people need to see him as toast.  Not everyone.  The masses tend to fall in line much later.  

[troph 25259]

2 minutes ago, pops said:

Putin might be 100 percent at going for nukes. But he isn't right in the head. He can't launch them himself. As fucking horrible as social media is,  it's allowing the truth to sneak into Russia. 

I dont see anyone pushing the button knowing he just killed himself and all his loved ones. Not for that deranged fuck. 

Now a tactical nuke in Ukraine?  Maybe. Which is horrible and ensures the end of Russia as it presently exists. But the icbms and hypersonics are not getting their fuse lit. 

I agree with this. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5569]

1 minute ago, pops said:

Putin might be 100 percent at going for nukes. But he isn't right in the head. He can't launch them himself. As fucking horrible as social media is,  it's allowing the truth to sneak into Russia. 

I dont see anyone pushing the button knowing he just killed himself and all his loved ones. Not for that deranged fuck. 

Now a tactical nuke in Ukraine?  Maybe. Which is horrible and ensures the end of Russia as it presently exists. But the icbms and hypersonics are not getting their fuse lit. 

You just have to hope that his military gives up on him. They already are but if the people of Russia sees him launching nukes (tactical or not), I've got to think they full on revolt. 

[JerrysJheriCurl 977]

Hyperbolic Surly is the best Surly.

Some of y’all need to sip on some 1942 while checking out some of the IPIHB threads. Take a break.  
You ain’t got no problem Jules. 
Go back and chill those Surlers out… and wait for The Wolf who should be coming directly. 

 

[BachelorTrek 3326]

ruskies' T-90 tank, their most advanced tank, fall down and go Boom from a handheld anti-tank missile.
 

[SizzleChest 8314]

4 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

No fucking shit.  

What is his purpose? To scare Americans?  

He has succeeded as far as I am concerned.  A repeat of 1962?

I don't understand what he is trying to accomplish by continuing to say that Putin may well launch nukes on us.

I'd rather know than not.

But, he needs to also state that the back channels are bustling and there is hope, even if there is little hope.

[F250 29208]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

no one is coming within striking distance of him. anyone in the same room has probably been stripped searched. once in the room, no one is getting close to him 

Maybe someone can do that glasses assassination like in Godfather III.

[troph 25259]

1 minute ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Hyperbolic Surly is the best Surly.

Some of y’all need to sip on some 1942 while checking out some of the IPIHB threads. Take a break.  
You ain’t got no problem Jules. 
Go back and chill those Surlers out… and wait for The Wolf who should be coming directly. 

 

The mother fucking wolf better be in the room with Putin. 

[Captain Obvious 531]

15 minutes ago, troph said:

Brisket and I agree, 50/50 on nukes a fucking coin flip now, 40 years after I had kiddo nightmares about it. Ho-lee fuck.

"Take it down, I don't care.  Hit something hard, I don't wanna limp away from this wreck."

[MillerEP 30908]

There was one or two times where we avoided complete nuclear disaster during the cold war all because one or two level-headed officers decided to let cooler heads prevail and not annihilate everyone. Hopefully this ends the same way.

 

[TwiceHorn 32111]

4 minutes ago, Keef said:

For what its worth, I don't read Rubio's tweets as suggesting he thinks Putin will nuke the US.  I think he's saying (based on earlier tweets) that Russia may use tactical nukes in Ukraine, which would obviously be a crazy escalation.

Yeah, I read that as catastrophic for UA.

[USNALonghorn 5198]

Facebook is two faced garbage.

Full article:

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/
 

 

[InkaUtexas 26980]

2 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Hyperbolic Surly is the best Surly.

Some of y’all need to sip on some 1942 while checking out some of the IPIHB threads. Take a break.  
You ain’t got no problem Jules. 
Go back and chill those Surlers out… and wait for The Wolf who should be coming directly. 

 

Maybe some of us have friends or family in Ukraine. in my case I have a really good friend working there on evacuation programs. Fucker is running around the country getting people out. 

I am not on the Nuke ledge, but Putin is not going to say, damn, I tried, bring the boys back home. 

[BachelorTrek 3326]

Bystanders laugh as a farmer with a tractor makes off with an abandoned tracked vehicle.  Lulz.

[SizzleChest 8314]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, I read that as catastrophic for UA.

Same.  It would be a disaster, but a EU/regional disaster and the end of RUS as we know it.

[ChiTownDoc 21356]

1 minute ago, USNALonghorn said:

Facebook is two faced garbage.

Full article:

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/
 

 

How tactical are those Russian nukes?

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes…I think it was worth it. I still do. Because when the other option is “give evil complete free reign,” that’s not an option at all.
Putin INSISTED on this war. Crimea sure as shit proved that appeasement is not just not the answer, it makes it even worse, and makes further violence inevitable.
Eventually, civilization has to draw the line. This event was the “eventually.” I wish Putin was sane. My wish will not come true.

This is one of the dumber posts in the history of this site.  Congrats  

You’re either a fucking idiot or are so easily conditioned that it’s embarrassing. You should almost never take a 50/50 risk of nuclear weapons being deployed by an adversary as a potential outcome of your actions. Much less over a nation with which we share minimal cultural attachments and has minimal financial entanglements (for most Americans). 
 

Evil didn’t have free reign. We’ve provided assistance and had provided for years before this.  
 

The way our media and political establishment is marching together makes me uncomfortable. 

[Wulaw Horn 19599]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Remember only a few people need to see him as toast.  Not everyone.  The masses tend to fall in line much later.  

Occasionally it’s a mass uprising. I’ve always posited that on some level people deserve the government they have because nobody can govern without the (at least tacit) consent of the governed, but yeah, more likely than not a couple of power brokers in the right spot could decide they have had enough I suspect and put an end to it. No man is an island. Putin has needs of servants. He needs to eat. He needs to sleep. He can be gotten to. Just need the right people to find the right leverage. 

[troph 25259]

Yeah the only convo has been about tacticals not strategic at the US or NATO. Even this whackadoo hasn’t been thinking “want to play a game” is on the table.  Still that’s serious death for Ukrainians. 

[InkaUtexas 26980]

 

[The Ace of Aces 5378]

10 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

This is what I was saying yesterday and the consensus was I was wrong. 
just like we severely overestimated Russias ability to fight, I think many are overestimating Putins grip on power. 

The USSR went from the world’s most stable government to collapse in 72 hours.  

[miguelito 11519]

14 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Remember our film,

Amigos, Amigos, Amigos?



   

                   

- Yes.

- Remember what we did in that movie?





                   

- Gee, do you think it could work?

- It's got to work.



   

                   

It's our only hope.

[SizzleChest 8314]

1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

This is one of the dumber posts in the history of this site.  Congrats  

You’re either a fucking idiot or are so easily conditioned that it’s embarrassing. You should almost never take a 50/50 risk of nuclear weapons being deployed by an adversary as a potential outcome of your actions. Much less over a nation with which we share minimal cultural attachments and has minimal financial entanglements (for most Americans). 
 

Evil didn’t have free reign. We’ve provided assistance and had provided for years before this.  
 

The way our media and political establishment is marching together makes me uncomfortable. 

RE: Brisket

[pops 7160]

8 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

You just have to hope that his military gives up on him. They already are but if the people of Russia sees him launching nukes (tactical or not), I've got to think they full on revolt. 

Relatively apeaking.... most have never had it better in Russia over the past 20 years. Obviously some more than most... but they aren't going back to 1975 for this crazy fuck. 

[TwiceHorn 32111]

2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

There was one or two times where we avoided complete nuclear disaster during the cold war all because one or two level-headed officers decided to let cooler heads prevail and not annihilate everyone. Hopefully this ends the same way.

 

While there are probably certain benefits to being a high-ranking official in Putin's Russia, I rather seriously doubt many of them share his worldview, twisted as it is.  That is to say, in Soviet Russia, they were all "brought up" the same way, with the same beliefs and an ingrained loyalty to the USSR and unquestioning obedience of its leaders.  I suspect there are more level-headed people over there than there were during other crises.

A good example.  We saw Putin browbeating his spy chief (I think it was).  The spy chief had the temerity not to completely have fallen in line ahead of time, and he was pretty clearly wtf.  That would never have happened "in public" in Soviet Russia.

[Aqua Buddha 14810]

12 minutes ago, pops said:

Putin might be 100 percent at going for nukes. But he isn't right in the head. He can't launch them himself. As fucking horrible as social media is,  it's allowing the truth to sneak into Russia. 

I dont see anyone pushing the button knowing he just killed himself and all his loved ones. Not for that deranged fuck. 

Now a tactical nuke in Ukraine?  Maybe. Which is horrible and ensures the end of Russia as it presently exists. But the icbms and hypersonics are not getting their fuse lit. 

We blow his shit off the map if that happens.  Like we lay waste to his house in Socci where he's at and send in a shit load of Marines finish the job.

No one would object.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8985]

Gif gets me every time

[JOSEYWALES66 1857]

4 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Same.  It would be a disaster, but a EU/regional disaster and the end of RUS as we know it.

Yup. If a tactical nuke is used in Ukraine an immediate no fly zone is implemented and probable NATO air attacks on all Russian forces in Ukraine. 

[ChiTownDoc 21356]

3 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

This is one of the dumber posts in the history of this site.  Congrats  

You’re either a fucking idiot or are so easily conditioned that it’s embarrassing. You should almost never take a 50/50 risk of nuclear weapons being deployed by an adversary as a potential outcome of your actions. Much less over a nation with which we share minimal cultural attachments and has minimal financial entanglements (for most Americans). 
 

Evil didn’t have free reign. We’ve provided assistance and had provided for years before this.  
 

The way our media and political establishment is marching together makes me uncomfortable. 

These vibes…they’re not immaculate. 

[Brisketexan 107043]

Maybe some of us have friends or family in Ukraine. in my case I have a really good friend working there on evacuation programs. Fucker is running around the country getting people out. 
I am not on the Nuke ledge, but Putin is not going to say, damn, I tried, bring the boys back home. 

This.
The rest of y’all, try to come up with an endgame where Vlad DOESN’T use a tactical nuke?
He’s never getting his easy win. His BEST case is to capture cities and continue to get his forces slaughtered (and eventually pushed out of some of those cities) by an incredibly well armed and well funded resistance. Nevermind the crippling sanctions and complete ostracism from the international community that aren’t going away. Nevermind a NATO that is bigger and stronger than ever, and likely has new members. That is Vlad’s WIN.
Nope. He’s not going to accept that. His best remaining move is to escalate, use weapons of mass destruction, and hope that it scares the west badly enough that they offer him terms that allow him to declare victory in Ukraine.
At this point, it may be that the two most likely options are 1) Putin uses a tactical nuke, or 2) Putin is killed in an inside job.

[SL Xpress 7609]

17 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

I think your 50/50 odds is higher than what it really is, but do you think it was worth a 50/50 shot at nuclear utilization to protect Ukraine? That’s what I’m getting at here. Everyone is riled up in the rah rah let’s get ‘em but what is actually going to happen here? 

It's a fair question. 

The problem is, what's your alternative? If Putin is willing to take over Ukraine, and the world does nothing for fear of nuclear utilization, what else does the world allow? It's not like he wasn't warned. He just didn't believe the Western world would follow through. He thought it would be more milquetoast in word only sanctions, and the usual suspects would protect their flow of Russian money and resources. You could hear him basically say it in his public addresses to his leadership councils and oligarchs. 

Part of the problem isn't that the West pushed back on his invasion of Ukraine. The problem is they weren't more serious when he took Crimea and carved out the Donbas. If they had frozen Russia out of the market back then and moved in unison to support Ukraine at that point, we wouldn't be in this situation. Better to carve a line in the sand at this juncture rather than kick the can down the road for Putin or whoever else has similar leverage in the future. 

[BabaYaga 15632]

10 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

I'd rather know than not.

But, he needs to also state that the back channels are bustling and there is hope, even if there is little hope.

Bit you don’t know.  It’s all conjecture.  A nuclear power “might” use nukes?   Ok….

[MillerEP 30908]

If the Belarusians were launching at 5am, like that tweet said, that's in 5 mins.

 

Edit: nvm that's tomorrow

Edited February 28, 2022 by MillerEP

[Aqua Buddha 14810]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

Joey Biden is literally about to stomp the throat of Communism and no CR trolls are here to be found. Inflation? Not real. Supply chain issues? No we just want short term gains. The Economy? Fucking your mom with the best numbers she’s ever had before she met your worthless dad.

It took him literally 2 weeks start to finish. Told the world Putin’s moves he would make and let the world follow through on the most high school “gang up on you” bullshit I’ve seen.

Thank you Joey

[Bateshorn 9991]

12 minutes ago, JerrysJheriCurl said:

Hyperbolic Surly is the best Surly.

Some of y’all need to sip on some 1942 while checking out some of the IPIHB threads. Take a break.  
You ain’t got no problem Jules. 
Go back and chill those Surlers out… and wait for The Wolf who should be coming directly. 

 

I don’t think anyone on late nite Surl needs another drink. Or they need 10 more. No in between.

[SizzleChest 8314]

Just now, BabaYaga said:

Bit you don’t know.  It’s all conjecture.  A nuclear power “might” use nukes?   Ok….

It's a hypothetical.  It's not real.  I'm just saying I'd want to know if I had access to the truth.

Is that hard to understand?

[SL Xpress 7609]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

At this point, it may be that the two most likely options are 1) Putin uses a tactical nuke, or 2) Putin is killed in an inside job.

Hard to see it any differently than that. But he's waiting to push the button, so we'll see.

[Guest Lobo]

Did anyone else have 'Belarus Paratroopers' on their 2022 bingo card?  I got a good chance to turn this year around!