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[SizzleChest 8314]

34 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

SizzleChest is a Lindsay Graham sock?

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.  We don’t serve ladybugs.

[Horn of Gabriel 1886]

9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

He's daring the world to fuck around and find out, I'm betting he's serious.

I get with the idea of his language leaving us wondering why we don't just move on him.   The only way I think we could do this is if, there is world or NATO unanimous feeling we have no choice but to preemptively strike, which I think is unlikely.  Additionally, I would think that in order to act preemptively the world or NATO would have to be convinced we could destroy or disable his entire nuclear arsenal simultaneously.  I doubt we could do it, but maybe we can.  

Our best course, at least right now, is to play the long game and choke him out economically.  It sucks for the Ukrainians, I get it.  I'm all for doing anything to help them short of provoking a shooting war between NATO and the US.  

Russia has the same triad we do for nukes.  They have thousands.  There is no pre-emptive strike option, that's MAD.  Even one nuke getting through to a US or European city would a disaster without comparison.

I think Biden and the US/NATO have played this right so far.  Fight the proxy war, fuel the defenders with weapons, and cripple the RU economy with sanctions.  Don't engage Putin's sabre rattling on the nuke stuff by escalating our nuke force posture tit for tat.  Maintain our high readiness and if he wants to FAFO we'll be here but stay a step or two from provoking that directly.

[Eastwood 4394]

Russia has the same triad we do for nukes.  They have thousands.  There is no pre-emptive strike option, that's MAD.  Even one nuke getting through to a US or European city would a disaster without comparison.
I think Biden and the US/NATO have played this right so far.  Fight the proxy war, fuel the defenders with weapons, and cripple the RU economy with sanctions.  Don't engage Putin's sabre rattling on the nuke stuff by escalating our nuke force posture tit for tat.  Maintain our high readiness and if he wants to FAFO we'll be here but stay a step or two from provoking that directly.

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[MillerEP 30907]

We need to figure out a way to get humanitarian aid in there. There are 44 million Ukrainians, only 1.4 of which had fled. As these cities get cut off from food, medicine, water, and electricity like in Mariupol, we're about to sit by and watch millions starve to death.

[686 3461]

Got damn these civilians are brave. Laying on the street and standing in front of the trucks while automatic rifle fire going off.

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[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, MillerEP said:

We need to figure out a way to get humanitarian aid in there. There are 44 million Ukrainians, only 1.4 of which had fled. As these cities get cut off from food, medicine, water, and electricity like in Mariupol, we're about to sit by and watch millions starve to death.

Question is could we start having Red Cross air drops in these areas or would Russians fire upon these?

[MillerEP 30907]

2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Question is could we start having Red Cross air drops in these areas or would Russians fire upon these?

The Russians WANT to demoralize and destroy them it is NOT in Russia's best interest to keep the population well fed and defiant. I seriously doubt they'll allow any aid which can keep the population defending their homes. Especially if that means we can fly it in. They want them weak and surrendering.

Edited March 5, 2022 by MillerEP

[MissingInAction 25556]

We get a non NATO country like Israel to fly in aid.

 

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2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

Israel getting involved now. Just a thought but, they would be the perfect proxies for NATO. They have a strong military, they're well funded, and really undercut the "Nazi" thing. If They were to come in and enforce a No-Fly for NATO (with NATO support under the table) I think that'll work. Russia won't be able to hit them due to the Closed skies of countries in between.

 

2 hours ago, HiggyBaby said:

Isn’t this what triggers the Rapture?

 

 

Starting to see reports of eaten Cadillacs.  Lincolns, too.  Mercuries and Suburus.

[686 3461]

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[Nivek 17415]

5 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Im guessing it's not possible to transfer say $1000 into rubles right now then just sit on it. Nuts

sitting on nuts is not what I advise.  

Edited March 5, 2022 by Nivek

[MissingInAction 25556]

Just got this text from my burner phone

BSTFreeMSG: All calls/texts to/from Ukraine are Free thr. 3/15/22 to help during these troubling times. Our hearts go out to everyone affected by this tragedy.

[SL Xpress 7609]

46 minutes ago, immamac said:

If Putin gets nukey even china will sanction them so fast their head will spin. 

If Putin gets nukey I don’t know why we’re still talking about sanctions from China like that’s the biggest consequence. 

[SL Xpress 7609]

4 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Just got this text from my burner phone

BSTFreeMSG: All calls/texts to/from Ukraine are Free thr. 3/15/22 to help during these troubling times. Our hearts go out to everyone affected by this tragedy.

Your burner phone? Like your adulterer phone? Not trying to be a jerk. I just don’t know of another reason why someone has a burner phone. 

[OU Sucks 9392]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

putins “meeting” with Aeroflot workers used a green screen to make it look like they were close.

Think it's just the video compression...the high res version doesn't look so strange.  What I do find funny is how the first girl has a "get me out of here" look, while the second woman knows better and makes little approving nods.

 

 

[686 3461]

Ukrainian lady checking out an abandoned multiple rocket launcher. Looks like a few rockets fired. I thought the whole battery went off when you lit the fuse in these things so maybe a lot of duds?

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1 minute ago, OU Sucks said:

Think it's just the video compression...the high res version doesn't look so strange.  What I do find funny is how the first girl has a "get me out of here" look, while the second woman knows better and makes little approving nods.

 

 

This. It's been debunked in that reddit thread. First video was just highly compressed. No artifacts on the higher res version. 

[Nicole44 22315]

I’ve been working on the railroad…lulz…

[conVINCEd 21477]

If you are going to send me to be cannon fodder can I at least get to drive something a little cooler than a minivan?

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3873]

2 hours ago, Homercles said:

I hope they know the pilot being tried for war crimes at the Hague is needed.

[Nicole44 22315]

Not a bad argument…but I don’t think we go there with that help right now with all eyes on Ukraine. We could…though Vlad. We can do a lot of stuff to you and your plans. Lots. And we haven’t even gotten to the final option yet fucker! 

 

[synoptic 138]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

That’s stupid. A free speech absolutist is really dumb 

The obvious problem with this is who is the one who gets to label what ideas are intolerant?  For example, Putin is (falsely) arguing that he is not tolerating nazis.  Almost any dispute now has both sides claiming the other side is intolerant/nazis.   If you make carve outs for free speech based on simple categorization terms, then those terms will then just get applied to everything and lose all meaning.  The only viable solution in our modern information age is an educated society that is trained on critical thinking and rhetoric to see through the falsehoods themselves.  

Edited March 5, 2022 by synoptic

[atomheartbevo 90650]

23 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Your burner phone? Like your adulterer phone? Not trying to be a jerk. I just don’t know of another reason why someone has a burner phone. 

You don't have a burner phone or at least a couple of Google Voice numbers?

[686 3461]

Big time Full Metal Jacket vibe here.

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[ShaggyBevo RIP 3873]

43 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Question is could we start having Red Cross air drops in these areas or would Russians fire upon these?

Not sure it needs to done in that way since outside countries have be able to flood them with weapons without flying them in.

[Underdog 29190]

27 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Your burner phone? Like your adulterer phone? Not trying to be a jerk. I just don’t know of another reason why someone has a burner phone. 

Quick question for the law dogs here, can death/bomb threats to a news(allegedly)network be traced back to a burner phone?  Asking  for a friend. 

[Nicole44 22315]

SIAP:

 

[atomheartbevo 90650]

Looks like some, not all, tried to paint over their headlights and leave a little slit.

Also, are they trying to block the engine's heat signature with the wood?

[Bevo Num1 1068]

Looks like some, not all, tried to paint over their headlights and leave a little slit.
Also, are they trying to block the engine's heat signature with the wood?

Seems like a really quick way to overheat your vehicle.

[Longhornlove 5211]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Looks like some, not all, tried to paint over their headlights and leave a little slit.

Also, are they trying to block the engine's heat signature with the wood?

They must be really taking it in the ass over there. Awesome.

[Nicole44 22315]

Just now, Bevo Num1 said:

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Looks like some, not all, tried to paint over their headlights and leave a little slit.
Also, are they trying to block the engine's heat signature with the wood?

Seems like a really quick way to overheat your vehicle.

Or drive into a bunch of trees and wreck also. Some really beautiful artwork in the Twitter feeds of the people in Ukraine I am following if anyone needs an avatar or wallpaper: 

[atomheartbevo 90650]

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

OK, I get the no fly zone participation red line.  But a couple of things- Putin has already said sanctions are tantamount to a declaration of war.  Second, he knows his bumbling buffoon army would be chopped liver in an actual conflict.  So playing it out, we (NATO) imposes a no fly zone.  Russian planes are shot down by NATO planes because you know Putin immediately puts it to the test.  Putin declares war on who, all of NATO?  And then what?  Do we really think he’s ready to push the button over that?  Because that’s the only way he stays in the game, and no way he ends the world over his ego.  Of course, if I’ve miscalculated, well…

If we take down his air force, yes he'll use a tactical nuke or two. Putin is cornered as we speak.  He's lost face, his economy is dying under him.  He doesn't trust the military leadership, both because of the assassination threat, but also because somebody somewhere in the chain-of-command was bullshitting about Ukraine's capabilities, the West's resolve, and Russia's capabilities.

And people are rethinking the whole evil genius thing, and instead they are putting him in the context of somebody who was in the KGB and just used the stuff he learned in the KGB to get to the top and stay on top through killing off rivals and keeping the people closest to him relying on his continued well being. He knows jack shit about military matters and he got lucky in Chechnya, Georgia, etc. with simple brute force, and was extremely lucky that he and the Russia military weren't exposed for what they actually are.

This just does not end well for Putin and everybody else, because he has to come out of this with a lot of territory.  He's going to continue running his Air Force into the ground, bombing civilian areas in an attempt to get Ukraine to the table and giving him Eastern Ukraine.

Edit: He does not know how to back out of this, and he is clearly not a Stalin-type of character, at least not outside of his own mind.

Edited March 5, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[MissingInAction 25556]

40 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Your burner phone? Like your adulterer phone? Not trying to be a jerk. I just don’t know of another reason why someone has a burner phone. 

Ever heard of hookers and blow?

[Sbbruin 22144]

20 minutes ago, 686 said:

Big time Full Metal Jacket vibe here.

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[NAVY 6969]

Pootie is about to deploy the flight attendants! 
 

Spencial in-air operation 

Edited March 5, 2022 by NAVY

[statsman 5693]

26 minutes ago, synoptic said:

The obvious problem with this is who is the one who gets to label what ideas are intolerant?  For example, Putin is (falsely) arguing that he is not tolerating nazis.  Almost any dispute now has both sides claiming the other side is intolerant/nazis.   If you make carve outs for free speech based on simple categorization terms, then those terms will then just get applied to everything and lose all meaning.  The only viable solution in our modern information age is an educated society that is trained on critical thinking and rhetoric to see through the falsehoods themselves.  

By the way, the Weimar Republic had laws against anti-Semitic speech, and punished the Nazi party for it, before they achieved power. To sum up- restrictions on speech served more to conceal Nazi anti Semitic feelings than it did to limit their anti semitic speech and thought. You have to wonder if polity would have been better served by letting them express their hate unfettered (like the US allowed in Skokie). 

[rpspeed 1495]

So this is where Rubio gets his info.
 

 

[Buzzrock 15136]

It’s not like I’m rooting for it. It was dumb of MacArthur to want to drop one on the Chinese, too. 

It comes down to how badly does Putin want to “win” however he’s defining that in his own mind. Because I don’t see a lot of possibilities. Do you?
Never mind the nuclear option. How does Putin get out of this in a way he finds acceptable?

It’s my understanding he has enough ordinance to destroy the major cities without having to use nukes.

[MillerEP 30907]

7 minutes ago, rpspeed said:

So this is where Rubio gets his info.
 

 

Only a matter of time before Russia starts deep faking his capitulation if they haven't already.

[Nicole44 22315]

 

[Buzzrock 15136]

OK, I get the no fly zone participation red line.  But a couple of things- Putin has already said sanctions are tantamount to a declaration of war.  Second, he knows his bumbling buffoon army would be chopped liver in an actual conflict.  So playing it out, we (NATO) imposes a no fly zone.  Russian planes are shot down by NATO planes because you know Putin immediately puts it to the test.  Putin declares war on who, all of NATO?  And then what?  Do we really think he’s ready to push the button over that?  Because that’s the only way he stays in the game, and no way he ends the world over his ego.  Of course, if I’ve miscalculated, well…

I wish I shared the confidence of those who are confident that Putin won’t use nukes. We’re constantly being told how unhinged he is, and he has enough nuclear weapons to destroy every major western city at once.

[tx 3 putt 78683]

1 hour ago, 686 said:

Got damn these civilians are brave. Laying on the street and standing in front of the trucks while automatic rifle fire going off.

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every Russian soldier needs a knife to the chest. Asap 

time to stop playing nice 

[Nicole44 22315]

10 minutes ago, rpspeed said:

So this is where Rubio gets his info.
 

 

Damnit Rubio. Mother fucker! And fuck the other senator too…

 

[RPM 26628]

58 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

If you are going to send me to be cannon fodder can I at least get to drive something a little cooler than a minivan?

Sure, just hop in one of those nondescript white work trucks that have glow in the dark target written all over them.

[Hook1997 5509]

6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Damnit Rubio. Mother fucker! And fuck the other senator too…

 

Is this a joke or for real?  The anger?  He’s in front of a white wall….   That gives no indication of location other than he’s in a building….

Edited March 5, 2022 by Hook1997

[atomheartbevo 90650]

Just now, Hook1997 said:

Is this a joke or for real?  The anger?  He’s in front of a white wall….   That gives no indication of location other than he’s in a building.  

We know which office complex he's in.

 

[Ag with kids 581]

26 minutes ago, statsman said:

By the way, the Weimar Republic had laws against anti-Semitic speech, and punished the Nazi party for it, before they achieved power. To sum up- restrictions on speech served more to conceal Nazi anti Semitic feelings than it did to limit their anti semitic speech and thought. You have to wonder if polity would have been better served by letting them express their hate unfettered (like the US allowed in Skokie). 

 

[Nicole44 22315]

The danger is more the mercenaries on the ground sent to kill I am assuming not just missiles. 

[choripan 796]

I dunno about you guys, but all this Ukraine stuff has me concerned Russia won't be much help when the aliens inevitably invade us.

[RPM 26628]

We should enforce an unofficial no fly zone with about 1000 Stingers. Charlie Wilson's Air Force.