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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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There just isn't any way Putin and his generals seriously believed they would be welcomed as "liberators." That was always clearly a lie to justify invasion. Maybe the underestimated the actual strength of Ukranian defenses, but there is no way they believed their own bullshit. 

The amount of riot gear and riot troops sent in confirms this.

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So when we are seeing these dollar values for Russian hardware, how realistic are those actual numbers?

For instance, just up thread there was a blown out Ruskie tank that they claimed was worth $25M. A few days ago there was a photo with multiple pieces of equipment that was allegedly worth half a Billion.

I understand that an American equivalent might cost that much to American taxpayers, but we are also all too aware that in the US, the private sector makes the shit and sells it to the government at a ridiculous markup.

But isn't all of the gear in Russia produced by the State, which sets the labor costs and doesn't need a markup?

I can't imagine Vlady is paying for a tank/helicopter/plane what "we" pay for it.

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More propaganda has been spotted and corrected. This time from the Ukraine side and regrettably it leaked its way into Surly. A Ukrainian woman standing on a balcony did NOT knock a russian drone out of the sky with a jar of pickled cucumbers. It was a jar of pickled tomatoes with plums. Let's be more careful with those news reports people!

 

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

More propaganda has been spotted and corrected. This time from the Ukraine side and regrettably it leaked its way into Surly. A Ukrainian woman standing on a balcony did NOT knock a russian drone out of the sky with a jar of pickled cucumbers. It was a jar of pickled tomatoes with plums. Let's be more careful with those news reports people!

 

I am going to start a new "SERIOUS" thread that ONLY reports on documented canned vegetable weaponry. This thread has been great but I think we can do better.

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Tons of organizations pulling business, contracts and product/services out of Russia. Yale Management Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld is keeping an updated list of companies that have curtailed their Russian operations (and the ones that have not). More than 200 companies have withdrawn from Russia so far. Notably McDonald's, Coca-Cola and others have not yet:

https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-200-companies-have-withdrawn-russia-some-remain

 

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19 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

$1 is now sitting at $155 RUB.....crazy as it was already high at 109 yesterday.

I imagine there are many non-Russian bankers who are sweating how they're going to have to mark down some of their assets given that Russians (people or businesses) who can't pay on their loans. The bankers are most likely pushing back on their govts to do whatever to find a solution to open Russia back up to relieve this pressure.

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4 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

The amount of riot gear and riot troops sent in confirms this.

It must be a nightmare figuring out how much riot gear and personnel to devote to Ukraine, while leaving enough back home to control their own people.

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More propaganda has been spotted and corrected. This time from the Ukraine side and regrettably it leaked its way into Surly. A woman did NOT knock a russian drone out of the sky with a jar of pickled cucumbers. It was a jar of pickled tomatoes with plums. Let's be more careful with those news reports people!

 

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$1 is now sitting at $155 RUB.....crazy as it was already high at 109 yesterday.

30 minutes later it is 217.  

Are we seeing the day trader little guys doing this on purpose like when they were buying shit just to destroy someones short?

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15 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

So when we are seeing these dollar values for Russian hardware, how realistic are those actual numbers?

I've seen a reference or two to "list price" meaning it is probably the price RU has asked for the hardware when they offer it as part of an arms sale. Market price of course may vary. 

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26 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

I am going to start a new "SERIOUS" thread that ONLY reports on documented canned vegetable weaponry. This thread has been great but I think we can do better.

Posts like this are why I love surly. Can’t find a better forum on the planet imo…but admittedly I am biased. Best band of merry assholes I know. 
 

Poor Kyiv. Back to ballistic missiles again to bomb the crap out of it at night. Bastards! Go fuck yourself, Putin. 
 

 

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/russia-mulls-legalizing-software-piracy-as-its-cut-off-from-western-tech/

 

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With sanctions against Russia starting to bite, the Kremlin is mulling ways to keep businesses and the government running. The latest is a creative twist on state asset seizures, only instead of the government taking over an oil refinery, for example, Russia is considering legalizing software piracy.

Russian law already allows for the government to authorize—“without consent of the patent holder”—the use of any intellectual property “in case of emergency related to ensuring the defense and security of the state.” The government hasn’t taken that step yet, but it may soon, according to a report from Russian business newspaper Kommersant, spotted and translated by Kyle Mitchell, an attorney who specializes in technology law. It's yet another sign of a Cyber Curtain that's increasingly separating Russia from the West.

 

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The plan would create “a compulsory licensing mechanism for software, databases, and technology for integrated microcircuits,” the Kommersant said. It would only apply to companies from countries that have imposed sanctions. While the article doesn’t name names, many large Western firms—some of which would be likely targets—have drastically scaled back business in Russia. So far, Microsoft has suspended sales of new products and services in Russia, Apple has stopped selling devices, and Samsung has stopped selling both devices and chips.

Presumably, any move by the Kremlin to “seize” IP would exempt Chinese companies, which are reportedly considering how to press their advantage. Smartphone makers Xiaomi and Honor stand to gain, as do Chinese automakers. Still, any gains aren’t guaranteed since doing business in Russia has become riddled with problems, spanning everything from logistics to finance.

 

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Plus, although China has been ramping up its criticism of US policies, the Communist Party is likely hesitant to undermine its lucrative stake in global trade. “Chinese companies have much more to lose than to gain by violating sanctions,” analysts at Gavekal Dragonomics said in a research report cited by the Wall Street Journal. “For most Chinese companies, Russia is just too small of a market for the business to be worth the risk of getting cut off from developed markets or being sanctioned itself.”

Software piracy in Russia is nothing new, of course. A 2019 survey by ESET, a Slovakian security company, found that 91 percent of Russians preferred pirated content, with nearly 20 percent saying that they had installed cracked software. The most commonly cited reason—listed by 75 percent of respondents—was that the official versions cost too much money. The practice has been institutionalized before, too; Mitchell mentions that just a decade ago, Russian ISPs hosted their own file-sharing networks.

 

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The country has a long history of disregarding intellectual property rights, particularly those from other countries. “The most significant example is Winnie-the-Pooh,” wrote Igor Slabykh for the Institute of Modern Russia, a US-based think tank. “When the Soviet Union created the Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon in 1969, it did so without any copyright holder’s permission, even though the Civil Code of the Russian Soviet Federal Socialist Republic prohibited such an act.”

Such decisions, including the one that the Kremlin is currently weighing, are more frequently pragmatic than dogmatic. “As in the early United States, where printers freely copied English books,” Mitchell said in his blog post, “Russian society had come to the decision, collectively and non-explicitly, that for the moment, there was far more to gain taking en masse than to be lost in studious commerciality for domestic production.”

Still, state-sponsored software piracy may be a heavier lift today than it was even a decade ago. Software-as-a-service has become far more widespread, and many services are available only through a web app. It’s still possible to crack many traditional apps that rely on authentication servers to check subscription status, but it’s a lot harder than if Roskomnadzor could simply distribute a list of stolen or generated serial numbers.

 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Armor still has a place.  And yeah.....the lack of Russian tactics on armor+infantry is mind-blowing.  But in any case, think of being in a tank, and heading into contested city X to try to take it.  You know there's a javelin or NLAW or 50 with your name on them.  That's got to be asshole-puckering now.  Even WITH infantry doing its job to clear areas.....they can't sweep EVERY nook and cranny.  I wouldn't want to be a Russian tank crew with orders of "drive into Kyiv" right now.

As US forces in Ramadi did.  RPG's around every corner.  While not at lethal, lethal nonetheless and not something I'd want to get popped with.  SEALS were embedded with many of the conventional forces and talk about the insane level of coordination and communication it took to pull off.  How they worked with the tanks.  Like a dance almost.  How critical understanding where everyone was at every time to avoid friendly fire.  Pretty amazing when you think about it.  

*The battle Chris Kyle was a part of 

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43 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

So when we are seeing these dollar values for Russian hardware, how realistic are those actual numbers?

For instance, just up thread there was a blown out Ruskie tank that they claimed was worth $25M. A few days ago there was a photo with multiple pieces of equipment that was allegedly worth half a Billion.

I understand that an American equivalent might cost that much to American taxpayers, but we are also all too aware that in the US, the private sector makes the shit and sells it to the government at a ridiculous markup.

But isn't all of the gear in Russia produced by the State, which sets the labor costs and doesn't need a markup?

I can't imagine Vlady is paying for a tank/helicopter/plane what "we" pay for it.

He’s likely paying more by the time every supplier and sub supplier takes their unofficial cut up and down the line. 

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As US forces in Ramadi did.  RPG's around every corner.  While not at lethal, lethal nonetheless and not something I'd want to get popped with.  SEALS were embedded with many of the conventional forces and talk about the insane level of coordination and communication it took to pull off.  How they worked with the tanks.  Like a dance almost.  How critical understanding where everyone was at every time to avoid friendly fire.  Pretty amazing when you think about it.  

*The battle Chris Kyle was a part of 

Jocko Wilink discussed it in "Extreme Ownership" as well.

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12 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I’ve said before this reporter has just been money…anyway for those of you that like maps…

 

 

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The country has a long history of disregarding intellectual property rights, particularly those from other countries. “The most significant example is Winnie-the-Pooh,” wrote Igor Slabykh for the Institute of Modern Russia, a US-based think tank. “When the Soviet Union created the Winnie-the-Pooh cartoon in 1969, it did so without any copyright holder’s permission, even though the Civil Code of the Russian Soviet Federal Socialist Republic prohibited such an act.”

Such decisions, including the one that the Kremlin is currently weighing, are more frequently pragmatic than dogmatic. “As in the early United States, where printers freely copied English books,” Mitchell said in his blog post, “Russian society had come to the decision, collectively and non-explicitly, that for the moment, there was far more to gain taking en masse than to be lost in studious commerciality for domestic production.”

Still, state-sponsored software piracy may be a heavier lift today than it was even a decade ago. Software-as-a-service has become far more widespread, and many services are available only through a web app. It’s still possible to crack many traditional apps that rely on authentication servers to check subscription status, but it’s a lot harder than if Roskomnadzor could simply distribute a list of stolen or generated serial numbers.

 

They're gonna get the TikTok treatment of full pullout because it is too hard to comply.   Electronics for RU will be Zero. Computers are cheap to get you in their software environment so they can sell both updated software and your metadata. 

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