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[956 Worldwide 35594]

2 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

 

That honestly sounds nuts. You don’t just weaponize a pathogen from a biomedical lab that’s doing research; there are a lot of steps between research and weapon. I mean, you might be able to let a nasty out and get some people sick but a purpose built bio-weapon is something else. 

[Guest Lobo]

There's no way this happens.  Russia wouldn't do that.  They don't interfere with foreign government assets.  I have that on the highest authority.  

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

13 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

That honestly sounds nuts. You don’t just weaponize a pathogen from a biomedical lab that’s doing research; there are a lot of steps between research and weapon. I mean, you might be able to let a nasty out and get some people sick but a purpose built bio-weapon is something else. 

Unless the biomedical research lab is actually a chemical weapons facility. I don’t know either way, but for the pentagon to make such a stretch suggests to me that it’s more than just pathogen research. 

[Scary Stranger 1725]

Unless the biomedical research lab is actually a chemical weapons facility. I don’t know either way, but for the pentagon to make such a stretch suggests to me that it’s more than just pathogen research. 

Or somebody shows up with a briefcase from a lab in Russia with a ready-made weapon to be dispersed at the Ukrainian lab.

[TexasEd 8266]

14 hours ago, Tailgate said:

Star from Frozen tweeted back.

 

This is literally a week old.  Look at the date of the original tweent from March 6.

[clapclapclap 9000]

4 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

This is literally a week old.  Look at the date of the original tweent from March 6.

Frozen in time.

But technically she's too young to be a tweent.

Meanwhile, I see that CNN is supporting the war effort by running a lot more commercials. 

[Trey3216 15452]

15 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

It's the primary song from the movie, "Frozen". It's a kind of popular song. Not making fun of you. More making fun of those of us who have heard it a few times.

What is this word “few”, and what does it mean? 

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

13 minutes ago, Scary Stranger said:

Or somebody shows up with a briefcase from a lab in Russia with a ready-made weapon to be dispersed at the Ukrainian lab.

An excellent point. I wonder if such weapons have fingerprints on them such that we could say that it was produced here or that we don’t use such chemicals etc. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

[Dbeasy 15596]

If China helps Russia, consider the entire country a lost cause, and begin immediately plotting with the western Allies to slowly shift manufacturing to 20 other countries around the world over the next twenty years. Do it quietly, slowly, methodically and dramatically reduce our reliance on them. We can teach many other low cost countries to manufacture goods for us. In fact we should be doing this anyway. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Those waiting for China to do the right thing, don’t hold your breath. 

They'll do whatever is in their best interest. It might happen to align with our best interests. Right, wrong ain't got nothing to do with it.

[atomheartbevo 90649]

1 hour ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Unless the biomedical research lab is actually a chemical weapons facility. I don’t know either way, but for the pentagon to make such a stretch suggests to me that it’s more than just pathogen research. 

Ukraine is not putting chemical or biological weapons facilities on the border with Russia, within easy distance of capture.

Every accusation is a confession.  "We aren't going to invade" "We won't harm civilians" "We won't target medical facilities" "We won't interfere with nuclear power plants" "We are doing fantastic on Day 17 of our 3-day war"

When Russia started talking about chemical and biological weapons, it's a sure sign they are considering it.

And when they started talking about, my first thought was them trying to use chemical agents to root out Ukrainians in the cities who maybe in bomb shelters or in tunnels, or whatever.

Remember, we never discovered what agent they used in Moscow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_hostage_crisis_chemical_agent

But only a handful of folks died due to gunshot wounds, and the rest of the 170 (or more) died due to the chemical agent.

[Telegraph_it 3379]

10 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

They clearly did not read the think tank piece posted above. 

[RDCanecutter 26891]

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

This is basically the russian version of the Louisiana woman who attacks the McDonald's drive-through cashier because they didn't get her order correct. Except they no longer even have that McD's employee to attack.

 

When Luka says he wants his MickyDees, you best believe Luka wants his MickyDees.

[Enchubben 5600]

Probably should have done it 10-14 days ago.

A public denial at this point from China would spell disaster for Putin at home politically.  China helping Russia cuts off China from the West but perhaps helps get Russia over the hump in Ukraine in the short term.

Like others, I think China sees this as an unwinnable war and would be better off isolating Russia.

 

[Pato del Muerto 53502]

1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

 

So you scuttle the site. Save specimens if possible, but safely destroy it and walk away. 

[atomheartbevo 90649]

2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I don’t understand why Russian trolls waste their time on educated forums. They get called out and ostracized immediately, and their propaganda tends to crystalize opposition. It’s self-defeating. 

It’s like some low-level bureaucrat in Moscow stumbled on TexAgs or Tiger Droppings and assumed that all American college sports forums are dominated by credulous morons. 

I've had to help deal with the Russian bots/trolls on forums aimed at kids - LEGO, Minecraft, etc., as well as some hobbyist forums/sites (that again, have nothing to do with the war or Ukraine/Russia) and the bot farms do not necessarily care what forums they are hitting - while I'm sure some humans are feeding them "high priority" websites (reddit, Facebook, twitter, etc.), they are also just crawling the web looking for forums and sites with open comments.  

The better bots/trolls are not straight-up pushing "UKRAINE EVIL RUSSIA GOOD" narratives, but instead they seem to be trying to muddy the waters, pushing out mostly false narratives that could seem feasible to somebody not well-read on the subject, cherry-picking things like comments from Ukrainian leaders or Putin or whoever.

It is slightly frightening in that a lot of people could get sucked in by this stuff, especially when they see stuff that pushes them towards ZeroHedge or Facebook groups or whatever that could provide a lot of biased/false information that sounds plausible.

[Blotto 24021]

This entire fiasco has never made any sense to me unless Putin was always operating on the assumption that China was going to help Russia get through this, at least economically. I'm certainly not counting on China to do the "right thing", unless you are considering the "right thing for China"

[Parliament 14598]

16 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

If China helps Russia, consider the entire country a lost cause, and begin immediately plotting with the western Allies to slowly shift manufacturing to 20 other countries around the world over the next twenty years. Do it quietly, slowly, methodically and dramatically reduce our reliance on them. We can teach many other low cost countries to manufacture goods for us. In fact we should be doing this anyway. 

Can we default on the US bonds they own or nah?

[Guest Lobo]

But I thought, Russia---Good.  China---Bad?  

Manufacturing goes back to Mexico, India, and Thailand...and it's game over for China. 

[Chopper 17432]

On the issue of the RUS threat to bomb NATO's supply lines

 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort will be tremendous and if peace hits tomorrow that is when it truly begins. It is with the same group I do overwatch for so I know the ops team pretty well. Worked with them in East Africa and Afghanistan. Fucking pros. All of them. 

Not sure if I am in, but why the fuck not. My kids are grown up, I can afford it. Like I said earlier. People on the ground are going to be beat to shit in a few months and we need to be ready to go in and alleviate that strain. I hope I get called. Deployment would be 90 days from now. Already polished my boots. 

[Chopper 17432]

per Phillips P O'Brien, "Another interesting attempt to map the war, clear differentiation between where the Russians control blocks of territory and where they are confined to the roads."

 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

10 minutes ago, Lobo said:

But I thought, Russia---Good.  China---Bad?  

Manufacturing goes back to Mexico, India, and Thailand...and it's game over for China. 

Make Central America the manufacturing hub. Good supply lines north and south. Sure, Maersk will be pissed, but.... 

Mexico provides the energy, improve lives in Central America and we get the goods we want. 

 

[Brisketexan 106899]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Make Central America the manufacturing hub. Good supply lines north and south. Sure, Maersk will be pissed, but.... 

Mexico provides the energy, improve lives in Central America and we get the goods we want. 

 

Such a fucking no-brainer.

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Such a fucking no-brainer.

Yep, and turn the ex-military bases into immigration zones with attached industry. This is so fucking easy to implement. All it takes is the courage in our leadership to say fuck you china, watch what we are about to do. 

[Chopper 17432]

Bunker Dwarf

 

[BamaATL 16593]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Such a fucking no-brainer.

think the Sinaloa cartel guys and the others might not like this idea much?

[InkaUtexas 26889]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Bunker Dwarf

 

Dibs on the band name. That is fucking classic. 

[Chopper 17432]

Love this street art

 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Just now, longhornmatt said:

Potatoes, pickles, onions, and rancid mold.   The only thing more horrifying would be if we saw the British army’s food supply lines. 

Woah now. I ate a lot at the PRT in Helmand. Only better dining facility in all of Afghanistan was the German one in Konduz. 

The brits brought in a bunch of bad ass Indian cooks who knew what they were doing. Best rations though were French Paratroops since they had a nice little bottle of wine in them. Kicks the shit out of MRE's

[Fuck Tim Beck 3904]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Dibs on the band name. That is fucking classic. 

Gotta go all in tho. 

Bunker Dwarf featuring the anal swabs. 

[Constant 6886]

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Dibs on the band name. That is fucking classic. 

I think ‘anal swabs’ is already taken. Sorry. 

[Brisketexan 106899]

think the Sinaloa cartel guys and the others might not like this idea much?

American law enforcement effort and pressure v cartels….cartels win.

American industry/corporations with a profit motive v cartels….Bitch please.

[BamaATL 16593]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

American law enforcement effort and pressure v cartels….cartels win.

American industry/corporations with a profit motive v cartels….Bitch please.

I would tend to agree, they'd look at this as more of a lucrative opportunity to do their business.  That said, I also know that part of their power depends on suppression of people.  If major industry moved in, they'd lose at least some of that power.  

[956 Worldwide 35594]

6 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Maybe Poland deserves the cover of Time. What they are doing is amazing. And I would love to see us fly out Ukranians on our returning C 17's. We are all fighting this dick fuck and Poland needs to know that we are there to help with more than supplying equipment. Have said this before. I am not Surly 1%, but I have half a house that is empty and would be happy to let a family live there. And before someone jumps on me about "what about a Venezuelan family", yep, them too. Home of the Free baby. We are the Beacon on the Hill. 

I honestly don’t know how many would want to do it. Most of them want to be close and really believe they’re going back. I would let in anyone who wanted to, but Ukraine is going to need these god folks.

Poland is kicking ass and really rehabing their democratic backslider image.  The Slovaks and Romanians and Czechs are kicking ass too. It’s good to let Europe get this one given that they were so dovish for so long.  

[956 Worldwide 35594]

19 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Woah now. I ate a lot at the PRT in Helmand. Only better dining facility in all of Afghanistan was the German one in Konduz. 

The brits brought in a bunch of bad ass Indian cooks who knew what they were doing. Best rations though were French Paratroops since they had a nice little bottle of wine in them. Kicks the shit out of MRE's

The Germans in Termez had the good beer. 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

The Germans in Termez had the good beer. 

Yeah, but Nato HQ in Kabul was pretty damn good. Great pizza thanks to the Italians. Got fucked up there with a bunch of Macedonians and my cousin (He was there advisor) one night. Worse hangover ever was waking up in a converted container at KIA and having to wander around to find breakfast smelling the exhaust of aircraft. Well that and one day in Lima. 

[Parliament 14598]

45 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort will be tremendous and if peace hits tomorrow that is when it truly begins. It is with the same group I do overwatch for so I know the ops team pretty well. Worked with them in East Africa and Afghanistan. Fucking pros. All of them. 

Not sure if I am in, but why the fuck not. My kids are grown up, I can afford it. Like I said earlier. People on the ground are going to be beat to shit in a few months and we need to be ready to go in and alleviate that strain. I hope I get called. Deployment would be 90 days from now. Already polished my boots. 

I haven't kept up with your posts very well.  What do you do as a civilian, and what are you gonna do now.  Please used non-military jargon. 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

3 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I haven't kept up with your posts very well.  What do you do as a civilian, and what are you gonna do now.  Please used non-military jargon. 

I design humanitarian and reconstruction support programs. I have done a lot in security assistance and reform. My experience is Bosnia, Afghanistan, East Africa and Latin America. I consult and tell companies how not to fuck up and how to design real solutions. I know supply chains and how to modify operational plans as needed. Gotta be flexible. But most important I know that working in these places suck and you have to be able to laugh and lead. 

Have not been operational for about 7 years (single dad shit) so the time is right. 

And except for being Navy ROTC at UT, I have always been a civilian. 

Edited March 13, 2022 by InkaUtexas

[BamaATL 16593]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I design humanitarian and reconstruction support programs. I have done a lot in security assistance and reform. My experience is Bosnia, Afghanistan, East Africa and Latin America. I consult and tell companies how not to fuck up and how to design real solutions. I know supply chains and how to modify operational plans as needed. Gotta be flexible. But most important I know that working in these places suck and you have to be able to laugh and lead. 

Have not been operational for about 7 years (single dad shit) so the time is right. 

And except for being Navy ROTC at UT, I have always been a civilian. 

So perhaps a stupid question, but since you have experience, which do you focus on first in a war torn area, water, power, or roads and transportation? 

[Constant 6886]

RIP 

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Home and business. People need to see improvement now. They already did without. So how fast can you maximize impact to improve daily life. 

There is a euphoria at the end of a war, but it fades fast. The suicide rate in Bosnia was almost nil during the war. A year after peace it jumped up. Focus on making lives better right away. Forget band aid projects, get them to work and build their homes. 

[FartingMonk 3619]

2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So perhaps a stupid question, but since you have experience, which do you focus on first in a war torn area, water, power, or roads and transportation? 

Security

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Just now, FartingMonk said:

Security

That is a given. You don't rebuild, you only apply band aids if there is no security. 

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Home and business. People need to see improvement now. They already did without. So how fast can you maximize impact to improve daily life. 

There is a euphoria at the end of a war, but it fades fast. The suicide rate in Bosnia was almost nil during the war. A year after peace it jumped up. Focus on making lives better right away. Forget band aid projects, get them to work and build their homes. 

That makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about the crushing depression that has to set in for many having to start over from scratch.  

[InkaUtexas 26889]

Just now, BamaATL said:

That makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about the crushing depression that has to set in for many having to start over from scratch.  

Yep, it is usually overlooked. We love to show off big projects, etc. But how do you let the human rebuild? clean the streets and let them get on with it. Humans move forward unless the ghosts follow them. G

[956 Worldwide 35594]

11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Home and business. People need to see improvement now. They already did without. So how fast can you maximize impact to improve daily life. 

There is a euphoria at the end of a war, but it fades fast. The suicide rate in Bosnia was almost nil during the war. A year after peace it jumped up. Focus on making lives better right away. Forget band aid projects, get them to work and build their homes. 

Man, if we could somehow end the war now, as horrible as it sounds, it could be a massive W overall for Ukraine. Not just the giant injection of Western cash but the patriotic mood of so many emigre Ukrainians who would be ready to rush back in, the goodwill of companies wanting to be part of the rebuild and employing people, the race to integrate as deep and as fast as possible. It could be a warp speed reboot of a country that needed it.

But as this drags on and people lose momentum, the refugees become immigrants….That’s how Russia wins, turns this into a permanent broken place.  I can feel it here, there’s going to be a point in a month, maybe two where Poland just runs out of gas, you can’t coast on good will and a sidecar of pure Russian hate forever and people will have to return to life. If Putin was smart he’d realize that he only makes life harder by threatening NATO. It keeps people interested. 

[FartingMonk 3619]

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Man, if we could somehow end the war now, as horrible as it sounds, it could be a massive W overall for Ukraine. Not just the giant injection of Western cash but the patriotic mood of so many emigre Ukrainians who would be ready to rush back in, the goodwill of companies wanting to be part of the rebuild and employing people, the race to integrate as deep and as fast as possible. It could be a warp speed reboot of a country that needed it.

But as this drags on and people lose momentum, the refugees become immigrants….That’s how Russia wins, turns this into a permanent broken place.  I can feel it here, there’s going to be a point in a month, maybe two where Poland just runs out of gas, you can’t coast on good will and a sidecar of pure Russian hate forever and people will have to return to life. If Putin was smart he’d realize that he only makes life harder by threatening NATO. It keeps people interested. 

Yeah.  I made that post about refugees at the beginning.  It starts that way as good will.  And then resentment builds up.  Then funding goes away and then the clashes.  Maybe two European countries may make it easier since they look similar.  But yeah the longer the refugees are there the worst it will get.  Inevitably something pops off and there is a schism between the host and the guest